Ickes: "Undercurrent Of Racial Implications" Coming From GOP

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October 13, 2008 06:06 PM


One of the chief strategists of the modern Democratic Party criticized the McCain campaign and its crowds on Monday for fostering an "undercurrent of racial implications."

In a discussion at the Time Warner Summit conference on the 2008 election, Harold Ickes, who played a high-ranking role on Hillary Clinton's primary campaign, scoffed at the notion that this election was any tougher than those past. As evidence, he point to the "real fist fights" that occurred during the Democratic primary in 1980, and the disdain for Lyndon Johnson within his own party in 1968.

Nevertheless, he had some harsh words for the Republican ticket. In addition to highlighting the emergence of race as a political issue, Ickes declared: "I abhor some of the remarks that Palin has made and some of the things that McCain should have said more about. I think there is some malice involved in that. But having said that, this is not that tough a campaign."

"You have to defend yourself and sometimes in a campaign you go overboard," he added. "But I do think that there has been an undercurrent of racial implications coming out on the Republican side that I do think is deplorable. But having said that, I think Obama is going to win this campaign hands down."

It was a candid remark from an individual who is well-versed in sharp-elbowed (sometimes racial) politics. Ickes took part in Mississippi Freedom Summer, helping the state send a primarily black delegation to the National Convention in 1964. The next year, he lost a kidney when, doing civil rights work, he was beaten by a gang of white people in Louisiana. He has, since then, worked for a candidate in every Democratic primary, as well as in the Clinton White House.

With history as his guide, Ickes had an acute diagnosis for why he thought John McCain was trailing in the polls: the contest had become a referendum on the Arizona Republican. "He has sold his soul to [Lee] Atwater," said Ickes.

During an interview with CNN on Monday, McCain defended both his campaign style and the rhetoric of his crowds, arguing that fringe elements could be found in all walks of politics and that it would be unfair to insinuate that they represented the views of his candidacy.

"The overwhelming majority of the people that come to my rallies are good and decent and patriotic Americans, and if they are worried about this country's future, that's correct," he said. "But to somehow, to somehow intimate that of the thousands people -- 17,000 people were just with us in Virginia -- and to somehow intimate that the overwhelming majority of those people, with rare exception, are somehow not good Americans or are motivated by anything but the most patriotic motives is insulting. And I won't accept that insult."

The racial issue aside, Ickes and his conference counterpart -- Republican Ralph Reed -- both spoke skeptically of McCain's chances for the White House.

"The fact that our party has nominated a black man who I think will be the next president of the United States is quite breathtaking, when you think about it," Ickes said.

"If the markets can recover, I still think this thing can close to the low single digits," Reed declared. He noted that spirits in McCain headquarters must undoubtedly be low.

One of the chief strategists of the modern Democratic Party criticized the McCain campaign and its crowds on Monday for fostering an "undercurrent of racial implications." In a discussion at the Time...
One of the chief strategists of the modern Democratic Party criticized the McCain campaign and its crowds on Monday for fostering an "undercurrent of racial implications." In a discussion at the Time...
 
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i find it very strange that hillary's people have gone so far up obama's colon. talk about change. i guess it's get on the bus rather than be under it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 10/14/2008

I'm glad he's ok now with Obama being the democratic nominee, but I still have not forgotten the primary elections and his performance on the issue of Michigan and Florida delegate vote decision. I am however, willing to give him the benefit of the doubt though. Trust is something you earn. When you lose that, it's not easy getting it back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 10/14/2008

The Atwater comment is unfair to Atwater, who thought better of his lowlife tactics at the end of his life ... McCain/Rove/Schmidt & co. are worse than Atwater in my book.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 10/14/2008

Let's not forget the racial tsumani in the democratic primaries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 10/14/2008

Apparently it is also a holy war?!? How could McCain not denouce this invocation by Rev. Arnold? And they want to bring up Jeremiah Wright? Seriously?!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g0d3_KE5js&feature=related

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 10/14/2008

what about Palin's scary exorcism, with pastor muthee???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 10/14/2008
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This is the first time I agree with Ickes in that he said: "You have to defend yourself and sometimes in a campaign you go overboard," he added. "But I do think that there has been an undercurrent of racial implications coming out on the Republican side that I do think is deplorable". The Republican party needs to ratchet down their rehtoric some, although there are differences, there is a way to express them with out making radical, borderline, easily perceived as having racial undertones. When you say "Obama is not like us, he does not think like us." to a crowd that 99% white has some strong under current. However, making the statement "Obama is not like us, he does not think like us." because, his tax plan in our opinion would slow if not stop economic growth as it would reduce capital for expansion and new jobs; has a whole new meaning. McCain knows this or at least should; if he does not have this basic knowledge of communicating with people or does have it yet does not use it, he has no business running for president. Either way, it is now 21 days to election day and I do not see much changing. He has made so many changes already that he has become unbelievable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 10/14/2008

The "primaries" are over and people ought to be living in the present, which is the general election. It is in bad taste to be bringing up the ugly events of the primaries. Unified Democrats should be the key and the current goal is to win over the "Independents" and some Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 10/14/2008

That doesn't mean that we have to approve of Clinton Inc.'s actions during the primaries, which are in the same vein of McCain's just less refined. The subject here is racially-related attacks, of which Clinton Inc. engaged in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 10/14/2008
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Obama's theme is prophetic: A Change Is Gonna Come:

http://current.com/items/89406051_obama_08_a_change_is_gonna_come

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 10/14/2008

It's been a long time comin'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 10/14/2008

McCain=McKlan

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 10/14/2008

Looks like the snakes are coming out to try to get a job, but the Obama train left the station along time ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 10/14/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 10/14/2008
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SP for all her self-vaunted morality appears to be one of the least (Chr ist ian) principled people I have seen in a very very long time, in or out of politics. What she represents (to me) is grotesque, warped and above all, the four letter E word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 10/14/2008

It is more than charitable to call it an "undercurrent."

Bigotry appears to be the only strategy John McCain has left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 10/14/2008

I hope they leave McCain alone. I want him and Palin to stay on message. It makes his base happy and it rings out like a dog whistle to people that believe in the great , scandal to be announced later, Obama surprise that's been just around the corner for months now. These people want to speak their mind about the Arab, Muslim, confederate. And I for one would like them to have a platform to show the country their thinking process. McCain can give the base what they want, and also give Obama a bigger lead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 10/14/2008
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I can forgive a lot of people from the primaries, but this guy isn't one of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 10/14/2008
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True. I don't think it's coincidental that Ickes is so close to icky.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 10/14/2008
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I know but he did a good thing here....Doesn't the primary seem like a decade ago???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 10/14/2008

I agree. To me, this man is worthless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 10/14/2008

The thing that puts the lie to McCain's argument is this: No audience, at any Obama or Biden rally has EVER behaved with the violent words that come out of McCain rallies. Neither Obama nor Biden has ever whipped a crowd up to an angry furor the way McCain and Palin have. If anyone did behave like that at an Obama or Biden rally, the speaker would immediately stop and pull the audience back from the brink. The people at Obama Biden rallies would not egg on people who spoke like that. These people feel safe and secure in behaving as they have because they know that their behavior will be allowed and accepted. The older woman who directly told McCain that Obama was an Arab expected McCain to go along with her. If she had said it three days sooner, he probably would have. It took him many days to decide that things were getting out of hand. He complained about John Lewis's comment to him, but I don't think that he began to wake up until Lewis made him look at it. John McCain has been losing himself in his frenetic desire to be president. I don't think he can win now. I hope that for his sake that he won't go down in history as a dirty loser. We don't have heroes to spare. It would be a shame if McCain is so far gone that his honor no longer holds any meaning for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 AM on 10/14/2008
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