Noonan, York, Toobin And Others Take Aim At McCain

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First Posted: 10-13-08 03:04 PM   |   Updated: 11-13-08 05:12 AM

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With 22 days left before the voters hit the polls, conservative pundits and media commentators are scratching their heads over the lack of direction - indeed, the near schizophrenic judgment - of the McCain campaign.

Appearing at the Time Warner Summit conference on the 2008 election, a host of prominent electoral observers were all bearish on the Arizona Republican's presidential ambitions. Not one panelist took the chance to defend the Senator's choice of Sarah Palin as vice president. Others simply saw death by electoral numbers.

"Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina, Missouri, Iowa, Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada," declared Byron York of the National Review. "Bush won everyone of those states except Pennsylvania. McCain has to do it all. And it is hard to do that by going on Letterman."

The reference was to the Arizona Republican's upcoming appearance on the Late Night Show this Thursday. For the panelists it symbolized yet another instance of what Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan described as "herky-jerky" behavior coming from the Republican ticket.

"Obama seems older in a way," said the former Ronald Reagan speechwriter. "McCain has seemed herky-jerky. Obama has seemed like the older, steadier fellow since the economic crisis began."

It was a sentiment echoed by most everyone else. Josh Marshall, the publisher of Talking Points Memo, made the case, as he has done many times before, that the senator by and large has dug his own grave.

"By the way he has conducted his campaign, McCain has got himself in a hole," he said. "That dramatic gesture [that he might turn to]... even if, on its own terms, it might be good for him, he has so effectively created this view as erratic it might not work."

The main object of ridicule and criticism, however, was Sarah Palin. York called her interviews with CBS's Katie Couric "very bad" and immune to political spin.

"She may be a very effective governor of Alaska who wasn't able to pick up on what you need to be an effective vice presidential candidate," said the National Review scribe.

Added Noonan: "Her performance from day one mattered. What the American people saw over the period of five or six weeks, it has been very up and down. From an unveiling that gave rise to questions to a very strong convention speech, to interviews that were disastrous, to a debate in which she came back very strong, to now, ten days on the campaign trail, where I think it is fair to say: that didn't work."

It was a fairly brutal affair, remarkable for its intense, sometimes overbearing, bipartisan focus on the ailments of the Republican ticket. Thirty-five minutes into the discussion, Jeffrey Toobin actually had to remind his fellow panelist that there was another candidate in the race.

"We haven't commented yet," said the CNN analyst, "on what a sensational campaign Obama has run."

With 22 days left before the voters hit the polls, conservative pundits and media commentators are scratching their heads over the lack of direction - indeed, the near schizophrenic judgment - of the ...
With 22 days left before the voters hit the polls, conservative pundits and media commentators are scratching their heads over the lack of direction - indeed, the near schizophrenic judgment - of the ...
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- redsongia I'm a Fan of redsongia 86 fans permalink
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The republican party in general needs to start listening to the intelligent voice of dissent in their party; Noonan, Buckley, Harris, etc.

They don't all have to agree, but they really ought to listen, before no party remains.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 10/15/2008
- HallStyle I'm a Fan of HallStyle 11 fans permalink
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The battle right now is between traditional Conservatives like Ron Paul, or NeoConservatives like Karl Rove! Which way is the Republican Party going to go towards. The Intellectuals or The Idiots?
http://www.hallstyle.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 10/16/2008

Precisely! Has anyone commented on how Barack Obama's campaign has been brilliant? Just the best that there ever was! Only Barack can bring us a better America!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 10/15/2008
- emncaity I'm a Fan of emncaity 29 fans permalink

Are you kidding? His campaign has been largely inept; only his huge personal appeal and the tidal wave of desire for serious change has put him ahead in the polls. I'm voting for him (even though Biden was actually my first choice among Dems), but don't be deceived by the fact that his campaign hasn't been able to sink his ship yet. Right now I'd prefer that they did little or nothing between now and election day other than getting the vote out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 10/16/2008
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Everytime I hear Parah Sailin say she is so happy to have been cleared of any legal or ETHICAL wrong doing, it reminds of the police officers in the Rodney King beating who got on the stand and said, "What? Beating? Who got a beating? I didn't see no beating?" "Did you see a beating? I sure as heck didn't see nobody gettin' beat!"

I've never seen anyone like her and I hope I never ever do again! She's a dangerous woman who is only out to pursue one thing....her own AMBITIONS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 10/15/2008

Their discussion sort of feels like when someone's favorite team collapses in a playoff game and they all discuss the failures of the coach and how the players didn't play well and then they forget that their opponent just outplayed them and deserved it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 10/15/2008
- PT6 I'm a Fan of PT6 25 fans permalink

Noonan, York, Toobin, and Kristol should START "Thinking Republicans for Obama" as a NEW WEBSITE and publication.

There are now at least a hundred "Well Known Republican THINKERS who support Obama!"

We need COOPERATION in this country and the BEST IDEAS from all of THEM!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 10/14/2008

Learn how to use caps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 10/14/2008
- HallStyle I'm a Fan of HallStyle 11 fans permalink
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screw up CAPS ARE COLL!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 10/16/2008
- longnow I'm a Fan of longnow 9 fans permalink

I'm so glad Peggy filters my news on NPR. I want to hear pleasant things
from that nice man Johnny McCain(such a nice name) not that terrorist Muslim fella
Brackno Bamie. It's always pleasing to see Peggy on TV b/c her hair is always nice
and not like that Michelle person. Peg-o-my-heart, you and your party are a joke
and I will be glad when the NPR board kicks your ass out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 10/14/2008
- DrJimmy I'm a Fan of DrJimmy 6 fans permalink

McBush....= Coward

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 10/14/2008
- HallStyle I'm a Fan of HallStyle 11 fans permalink
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Mr. McANGRY! NeoCONs are mad and are jumping off the McCRY-BABY band wagon!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 10/16/2008

McCain is tired, and so is his speaking style, he needed Noonan to write him something he has no feeling. This is in line with the latest ad. The American people are tired of the same policies, the Republicans are in need of a complete extreme makeover. The party needs to include ALL not just joe six-pack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KzbJtG9V2E

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 10/14/2008
- Gusto2 I'm a Fan of Gusto2 3 fans permalink

John McCain loves to repeat that he knows how to capture Bin Laden, he knows how to fix the economy, he knows how to win the war, he knows how the bring this country back. I have no problem with that, but my question is: If his campaign slogan "Country First" is for real, why John McCain won't get with the FBI, CIA and the National Intelligence Agency and tell them how to get Bin Laden, get with the Treasury Secretary and the administration and tell them how to fix the economy; get with the Pentagon and tell them how to WIN the war,etc, the truth his McCain is saying that in order for him to tell us we have to elect him first. In other words it is NOT Country First, it McCain First. Winning the election is more important to him than saving this country. So is he trying to hold the American people hostage? Shame on him. But by Republicans standards those are the signature of a "maverick".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 10/14/2008
- Gusto2 I'm a Fan of Gusto2 3 fans permalink

Isn't it amaazing how John Mccain is out there crying foul at John Lewis comments about McCain campaign tactic of attacking Obama as unamerican, not Christian, and saying that Obama does not like America the way they do? He is crying now that his tactics has backfired, so now he is the victim, but he is yet to condem all those "kill him" , "terrororist", "traitor" cries and shouts coming from his supporters at rallies where he, fruitcake(Palin) and bimbo(cindy) were present and did not say a word to stop that nonsense. But now that John Lewis has called him on that he is running around crying foul. Poor me, not me nonsense. This man is an embarrassment to all of us veterans and is a coward in the eyes of this 21 years veteran. He allows his wife and "fruitcake" to do the talking while he stand there in approval with a smirk on his face. Poor judgement, lack of leadership.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 10/14/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 10/14/2008

Sign this petition if you think McCain should stop talking about Obama and William Ayers...and start talking about the economy instead:

http://www.McCainPetition.com

Gregg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 10/14/2008

who will read this petition if i sign it? i don't think mccain or palin will read anything, much less what they don't want to hear.....THE TRUTH,,,,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 10/14/2008

Even conservative columnists are turning against McCain-Palin how could they not, the politics of fear, the surge factors is not working for the Republicans this time, we are gullible but we are not that stupid to even listen to their lies and innuendos any more much less to believe them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 10/14/2008
- mrJJ I'm a Fan of mrJJ 23 fans permalink

All Politics are LOCAL

The Bush enablers need to be voted out.

Every Republican Or GOP candidate on this years election down ballot must be voted down or out of office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 10/14/2008
- Johnniedog I'm a Fan of Johnniedog 4 fans permalink

WHEN VOTERS GO INTO THE BOOTH...THEY NEED TO VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC TICKET!!! THIS WILL LEAVE NOT DOUBT.

MOST, IF NOT ALL, BALLOTS HAVE A PLACE TO VOTE EITHER A STRAIGHT DEM OR STRAIGHT REP TICKET. SIMPLY MAKE THAT SELECTION AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 10/14/2008
- Gusto2 I'm a Fan of Gusto2 3 fans permalink

VOTING STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC TICKET IN NORTH CAROLINA DOES NOT GIVE YOUR VOTE TO OBAMA, INSTEAD IT ONLY GIVE VOTES TO THE LOCAL DEMOCRATS, SO PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME AND VOTE EACH INDIVIDUAL DEMOCRAT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE TO BUSH, MCCAIN AND THE WHOLE REPUBLICAN PARTY. JOHNNIE DOG, YOU ARE NOT DOING THE DEMOCRATS ANY FAVOR BY ADVOCATING THIS WAY OF VOTING. PLEASE DON'T ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO SO IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 10/14/2008

never vote blind read everyting, john duncan rep. tennessee, always responds to voters. so i hear. any negatives??? i am willing to be educated....my mind is expansive.­..progress­ive......i­nfo greatly appreciated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 10/14/2008

If Obama runs this country like he has his campaign, this nation will be great again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 10/14/2008
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