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Ohio Secretary Of State Will Fight Republican Challenge


First Posted: 10-16-08 01:49 PM   |   Updated: 11-16-08 05:12 AM

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Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner told the Huffington Post on Thursday that she is ready not only to fight the state's current election law battle in front of the Supreme Court, but is also willing to wage a new fight, if necessary, to make sure hundreds of thousands of new voters are not "forced" onto provisional ballots on election day.

Spurred by revelations that the community organizing group ACORN has submitted many thousands of ineligible voter registration cards in battleground states, Ohio Republicans have been calling for a wholesale comparison of the state's nearly 666,000 new active voters against data collected by the local DMV.

Brunner charged that Republican demands are meant to create confusion at the polls and keep all the ballots from being counted.

Brunner says that, according to the League of Women Voters, there were only four instances of "illegal voting," or the actual casting of an illegitimate ballot, between 2002 and 2006 -- when just under 8 million ballots were cast. As such, she said, ACORN's registration problems are being improperly lumped in with the casting of bad ballots, something she says is not likely to occur no matter how many fraudulent registrations are turned in. "Unfortunately, despite the messaging of certain political parties ... when they bring ACORN into it, they're talking about false voter registration. Seldom does that lead to illegal voting. Mickey Mouse and Jive Turkey don't vote."

Brunner revealed this week that state data for approximately 200,000 of the new voters shows at least one discrepancy out of nearly two dozen categories that can be compared between the Secretary of State's office and the DMV.

(Indeed, even Ohio's Joe 'The Plumber' Wurzelbacher appears on voter registration rolls with a slight name misspelling, and thus would be subject to what a representative of the Brennan Center for Justice calls "disenfranchisement by typo.")

Though both Brunner and her Republican opponents concede that many of these 200,000 "flags" could be due to administrative error, the state GOP nevertheless wants her to provide the state's 88 separate boards of election with their respective shares of the flagged voters. On Tuesday, the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with Ohio Republicans, and gave Brunner until Friday, October 17 to draw up the various lists.

On Wednesday night, Brunner appealed the 6th Circuit's decision to the Supreme Court, which she said is now awaiting a response brief from her Republican opponents. "The best information I have is that it's likely the Republican party would be given a deadline to file a brief today," Brunner said. "And then we'll see what the court does. We have been attempting to comply with a federal judge's order. But the action was brought so late."

Currently, many observers feel that if the 6th circuit decision stands, it will mean that those 200,000 Ohioans with flagged data will have to undergo what's known as "provisional balloting." Thursday afternoon on MSNBC, Pete Williams reported: "These mismatches don't mean that voters can't vote. ... They will still let you vote, but your ballot would be set aside and not counted on election day, and then they have to go back and make sure it was legally cast, and then they would count it."

The New York Times reported Wednesday that "once the local officials have the names, they may require these voters to cast provisional ballots rather than regular ones, and they may ask partisan poll workers to challenge these voters on Election Day."

But Brunner says she won't order a process of provisional balloting unless she is forced to do so, preferring instead that these individuals vote normally like everyone else. "I find nothing in HAVA [the Help America Vote Act] that says if there's a mismatch on this limited data that that's enough to push a voter onto a provisional ballot," she told the Huffington Post. "A court would have to order me to do that. ... And I'd fight it all the way back up [to the Supreme Court]."

"The [circuit] court said the Secretary of State has to provide information to the Boards of Election on which names [have] discrepancies," Brunner said, adding that the federal judge admitted he could not order the Boards of Election to use provisional balloting for those voters.

So would the individual boards make the call as to whether or not to use provisional ballots on a site-by-site basis?

Brunner asserted it would be her decision. "It would be the Secretary of State that could order the boards to do that," she said. Asked if she intended to do any such thing, she said, simply, "no."

"If we have to follow the [circuit] court's order, we will do everything we have to do to resolve those discrepancies by contacting voters," Brunner said, suggesting this is the extent of the impact of the 6th circuit's decision. As for whether or not her office is drawing up the lists for the 88 different election boards, Brunner replied: "We're gonna wait and see what the Supreme Court orders us to do."

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By taking this position, Brunner appears ready to force another showdown with Republicans in Ohio. She believes that the present court challenge is, in fact, simply a prelude to making tens of thousands of new voters undergo provisional balloting, which she claims will cause havoc on election day.

"Most of the polling places ... have four polling workers," Brunner said. "We've had our boards of elections provide diagrams of how they're going to actually arrange their polling places. ... Most diagrams show one poll worker handling provisional voting. So if we drastically increase the number of provisional voters, that's going to create some congestion and some backup and extend the lines in polling places. This process, under Ohio law, requires both the voter and the polling place worker to fill out a fairly lengthy form. If the voter has any questions, the worker has to give them a provisional ballot notice about the hotline to find out if their vote is counted."

Brunner said Ohio Republicans were seeking that kind of chaos. "The added confusion and problems that this creates -- the plaintiffs understand that. They also understand these ballots are not counted on election night. And that they'll be able to litigate and fight over individual ballots for a 10-day period after the election to tamp down the number of ballots that will actually be counted. This isn't democracy," Brunner said.

The secretary also expressed some muted displeasure with ACORN for helping cause alarm over potential voter fraud due to the apparent registration fraud in its ranks. "I think non-profit organizations like ACORN are specifically fighting the fight for middle to low income people," she said. "In carrying out that kind of responsibility, they need to do it in such a way [so that] low income people won't be further ostracized by the community. I think they have to do a better job, yes. From a pure election law standpoint, [this all] makes a lot of unnecessary work."

Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner told the Huffington Post on Thursday that she is ready not only to fight the state's current election law battle in front of the Supreme Court, but is also wil...
Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner told the Huffington Post on Thursday that she is ready not only to fight the state's current election law battle in front of the Supreme Court, but is also wil...
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12:18 AM on 10/18/2008
The Repubs aren't going to stop. See http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/10/new_case_in_brunner_election_f.html

"The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday ruled that Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner does not have to cross-check hundreds of thousands of newly registered voters, decisively striking down a state Republican Party challenge.

'That's it,' an elated Brunner, a Democrat, said, noting that the Republicans could not take their argument any further than the highest court in the country.

But late Friday, a Republican who agreed with his party that the high court dismissed the case on a technicality, filed a new case -- this time in the Ohio Supreme Court."

Don't ask me how the hell this is supposed to work, given that the SCOTUS already ruled against the Repubs. What part of "No" are the Republicans unable to grasp?

It's not clear what's supposed to be different about this latest challenge, nor would it seem to make any difference that the case was filed by a private individual. The fact that it was filed on a state level instead of federal level seems irrelevant, too.

It would appear the Repubs are demanding validation for their warped claim of a mass voting-fraud conspiracy. Then what? The Ohio SC rules that such a conspiracy is happening? On what evidence?

Then we halt the election in Ohio and/or any other state in which such a conspiracy is alleged to be occurring?
10:30 AM on 10/18/2008
You're talking about the DeWines and their ilk. They don't understand NO even after they've been voted out of office.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/o/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/ohiopolitics/entries/2008/10/18/mismatch_legal_battle_moves_to.html

This time all voters registered after Jan 1 2008 and who voted absentee will not have their ballots counted until they are verified for mismatches. This won't affect me (though considering I just voted this morning it torques my jaw), but it will affect my husband (who finally registered after updating his driver's license).
01:45 PM on 10/18/2008
Thanks for the link--that piece explains it in much greater detail. Ye Gods. So the state/federal distinction is meaningful, after all. I was afraid of that.

And the public snoozes as its right to cast a vote (and have it counted) is called into question because of data-field mismatches. Clerical issues thus become the basis for the mass-fraud folklore. A mistyped SSN takes precedence over a once-guaranteed right. (Rights? What are those?)

The American public begs the Republicans to beat us some more. And it complies. That pretty much covers it, I think.

Of course, as you know, we Ohioans are issued "driver (sic) licenses." I love to note that because it's so comically illiterate. When people ask for my driver's license, I reply, "Oh, you mean my driver license?" I leave out the "sic," though.

At the moment, being in (and from) Ohio is giving me a headache.
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Big0725
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05:59 PM on 10/17/2008
I case anyone wants to read the decision. It's a two page .pdf file.

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/08pdf/08A332.pdf
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Big0725
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05:49 PM on 10/17/2008
Why isn't this story more prominently displayed?

I mean she when in front of the Supreme Court and won!
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Diane Tucker
12:13 AM on 10/18/2008
Hello --

I mention the Supreme Court victory in today's post from Youngstown, Ohio, where the presidential contest is a dead heat and keeps "floppin' like a fish" according to a local radio DJ. Here's the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/diane-tucker/in-ohio-gop-courting-unde_b_135275.html
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Dannydel
05:36 PM on 10/17/2008
The bastards stole 2 elections from us already. If we allow these Republican tactics to interject themselves into the democratic process again, we are asking for for trouble. Given the opportunity, republicans will stoop to any level for a victory. They are amoral and we need to insist that the courts stand up to them and prevent a repeat of the Katherine Harris debacle and the Ohio voting machine fiasco which gave us 8 years of the most despicable, moronic and destructive non government in history.
05:14 PM on 10/17/2008
Fox will tell you all about ACORN, but not about how the RNC successfully stole Ohio in 2004:

http://www.velvetrevolution.us/images/Phillips%20Aff%20to%20Reply%20filed%2091708.pdf

Fox: fair and balanced as always
04:16 PM on 10/17/2008
Kenneth Blackwell must be rolling over in his sty.
02:40 PM on 10/17/2008
The Republican Party stole the 2000 Floria Election, 2004 Ohio Election and elsewhere-- could not get away with this fraud if the media did not spin the story.
1- Republicans have worked with ACORN; it is a reputable organization
2- Getting signatures right is a widespread problem, i.e., to qualify for candidacy often requires 30 percent more signatures than required to qualify; signatures for initiatives have a similar problem. If you need 60,000 signatures you have to get at least 70,000.
3- ACORN employs paid volunteers; you are bound to get a greedy one or two -- the good old American profit motive. However, this sort of petty greed is looked at as a conspiracy whereas the greed of corporate executives is ignored. I wonder how many criminal charges will be brought?
4- The deception of individual applicants is like a bad joke. Mickey Mouse, common on. This is not voter fraud; it is a bad prank .
5. The registrars are required to hand in all applications even if they are signed Adolph Hitler.
6. For the person signing multiple applications; how can you blame the registrar? Perhaps the signee should be questioned; were they signed up the same day? during the same hour?
7. The Obama campaign paid ACORN for get out the vote drives not registration; it has its own volunteers.
I am all for investigations if they are equal. Have we prosecuted those perpetrating the frauds in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004?
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gladys46
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01:33 PM on 10/17/2008
Bravo Sec. Brunner .... every vote should be counted!! NOT THIS TIME .... so says SCOTUS!


Amen!
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Drash
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12:55 PM on 10/17/2008
The Supreme Court just told the Ohio GOP to go F themselves.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081017/ap_on_el_pr/scotus_voter_registration
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onecorgilover
01:12 PM on 10/17/2008
Thanks for the link.....the Supremes probably feel guilty because of their actions in 2000 which led to this jacked up economy today.
02:24 PM on 10/17/2008
No, they ruled the right way because the GOP cannot sue to overturn Federal law. The 6th District really made a bad decision.
05:33 PM on 10/17/2008
Yeee-haaaaa!
12:48 PM on 10/17/2008
Ms Brunner - you are no Kathleen Harris. You are the best and actually do your job.
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Big0725
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05:53 PM on 10/17/2008
Sorry, I meant Katherine
12:42 PM on 10/17/2008
MS Brunner, you are FANTASTIC!!! A Public Servant who actually fights for the Public exists? In Ohio?

Who knew?
12:20 PM on 10/17/2008
hot off the presses:
High court rejects GOP bid in Ohio voting dispute
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081017/ap_on_el_pr/scotus_voter_registration
12:43 PM on 10/17/2008
Fox, of all places, was the first to report this on-line. I am pleasantly surprised that the Court ruled in the Ohio SOS favor and are staying out of the political foray.
12:16 PM on 10/17/2008
the supremes ruled for her today. where's the story?
11:13 AM on 10/17/2008
Our judicial system requires "PROOF" not logic. ACORN isn't guilty unless both their actions and intentions are demonstrated to be fraudulent. Let's not let our concern about a clean election -- something both Dems and Repubs should share, cause us to toss out judicial standards.
09:16 AM on 10/17/2008
It appears to me that in some states this fall, for many people, it will easier to buy an assault rifle than to vote.
11:24 AM on 10/17/2008
It should be easy to do both in any state