Source Of "Infanticide" Smear Says America Elected "A Barbarian"

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First Posted: 11- 6-08 10:35 AM   |   Updated: 12- 7-08 05:12 AM

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Though some conservatives are making conciliatory noises about Barack Obama now that the election is over, Jill Stanek is not among them. The former Illinois nurse, whose claims about a supposed rash of abortions of "born alive" babies at a Chicago hospital snowballed into the election-season charge that Obama supported "infanticide," wrote Thursday:

"Barack Obama was elected president despite the fact he supports abortion into the fourth trimester. [Ed. Note: Stanek uses "fourth trimester" deliberately to indicate abortions of children who are nevertheless "born alive."] Either the 63 million people voting for him didn't know about his radical record, which includes abandoning abortion survivors to die, didn't care, or didn't believe it."

Because several "anti-life" ballot initiatives also passed on Tuesday, Stanek said to her World Net Daily audience that "we are fooling ourselves if we think the United States is still a Christian nation," adding: "Its people just elected a barbarian as president."

The notion, pushed hard by Stanek and others, that Obama favored infanticide because he once voted "present" on a number of Illinois state senate bills was one that the Obama campaign pushed back against during the campaign. Obama's "Fight the Smears" website (apparently now offline) said the president-elect had voted against a bill containing language designed to protect infants who were 'born alive,' because such protections were already part of Illinois state law, and because the Stanek-supported bill was, at the time, opposed by the Illinois Medical Society.

Rick Winkel, the Illinois Republican who introduced the bill in the state Senate, even wrote in September that "none of those who voted against SB-1082 favored infanticide," despite his disagreement with them.

Nevertheless, Stanek is not giving up the ghost, calling on churches across America to take up a more explicit fight in the public policy arena of abortion. "It is your responsibility, pastor and church leaders, to teach your people that abortion is abominable, and before that to teach chaste living," she wrote. "And before that, at the risk of making my Protestant friends flip, to teach that the contraceptive/sterilization mentality, which considers children bad, not blessings, is also a component of the sexual demise of our country."

Though some conservatives are making conciliatory noises about Barack Obama now that the election is over, Jill Stanek is not among them. The former Illinois nurse, whose claims about a supposed rash ...
Though some conservatives are making conciliatory noises about Barack Obama now that the election is over, Jill Stanek is not among them. The former Illinois nurse, whose claims about a supposed rash ...
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Regardless, it is a quite disturbing procedure, from beginning to end.

Don't know what the author was driving at. Taken straight from the article:

"The notion, pushed hard by Stanek and others, that Obama favored infanticide because he once voted "present" on a number of Illinois state senate bills was one that the Obama campaign pushed back against during the campaign. Obama's "Fight the Smears" website (apparently now offline) said the president-elect had voted against a bill containing language designed to protect infants who were 'born alive,' because such protections were already part of Illinois state law, and because the Stanek-supported bill was, at the time, opposed by the Illinois Medical Society."

Obama DID vote for it after all.

That there Illinois Medical Society is also in favor of the Medical Liability Reform Law, so much so that it has filed a brief in support of the law and against a court challenge of said law by trial lawyers. In this case, the Society sounds like a right wing organization, doesn't it? What about patient rights???????

Hear it straight from the horse's mouth at : http://www.isms.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 11/13/2008
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Memo to all future campaign advisors:

The low road no longer leads to the White House...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 11/07/2008
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This has to be some Rove, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Cheney et al and others more interesting attempts at creating problems where they don't exist, what a waste of time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 AM on 11/07/2008

All of the framers and signers of our Constitution were men, gentlemen, even. Many of those same men dallied outside of their marriages or consorted with women if they were not married. Some had sexual relations with their female slaves. Children were conceived and were either considered bastards or half-human, depending on the race of the mother. These babies were not considered blessings, in fact they were never mentioned in polite society or heaven forbid in the father's house of worship. They were never fathered at all. But they were usually carried to term in the mother's body and perhaps they lived if there was nourishment, clothing and shelter provided. Fast forward to 2008:

People are still making babies. Dad can still run, but may not hide from Child Support Enforcement, if mom chooses to have the baby. One path some father's take is to never hold down a paying job. The child may be a blessing if there is nourishment, clothing, shelter, transportation, health care, childcare and educational opportunity provided. If not it will be placed in the wonderful foster care system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 AM on 11/07/2008
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Such a controversial issue - unfortunately, as the saying goes, "you can't please all"!. This person, Stanek, is rather scary, not to mention The World Net Daily, much worse..How­ever, if one is so hell-bent on a cause, then the sane & practical way to go about it would be to start or continue to lobby & present the case well. Laws, of course, can be changed - certainly though not as fast as one would like. I am taken back by Stanek's remark that the United States is a Christian nation - (since when??)...­well, I'm not Christian.­..but I do know that the Christian faith is not, as a rule, a hateful bunch....S­tanek's insinuations about President - elect, Barack Obama, being a "barbarian", is rather unsettling. It's very frightening to know how many people in the U.S. actually voted for McCain/Palin, believing that their ideas were ever so, supposedly, right-on..­..even though they incited fear, hate, among the people - & Sarah, although pro-life, killed animals for the sport of it. To a sane & rational society, people who go around uttering hateful/derogatory remarks against the President of the United States of America (albeit not sworn it to office, yet), & /or government, those are the ones that need to be examined. President - elect, Barack Obama, is the very right choice - he is so above all the pettiness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 11/07/2008

GW Bush x 8 years. Roe vs Wade still stands.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 11/07/2008

Really? I thought we elected a barbarian in 2000 and 2004.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 11/07/2008
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-continued-

The man has taken on a massive responsibility for the people of the U.S., and the world..(li­ke others are more qualified? NOT!), & he is being bashed left & right. Those that continue to do so (as I just can't believe these new articles coming out about him since he was elected), only wish they could have an ounce of his intelligence & class.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 11/07/2008
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This is such a controversial issue - unfortunately, as the saying goes, "you can't please all"!. This person, Stanek, is rather scary.if one is so hell-bent on a cause, then the sane & practical way to go about it would be to start or continue to lobby & present the case well. Laws, of course, can be changed - certainly though not as fast as one would like. I am taken back by Stanek's remark that the United States is a Christian nation - (since when??)...­well, I'm not Christian.­..but I do know that the Christian faith is not, as a rule, a hateful bunch....S­tanek's insinuations about President - elect, Barack Obama, being a "barbarian", is rather unsettling. It's very frightening to know how many people in the U.S. actually voted for McCain/Palin, believing that their ideas were ever so, supposedly, right-on..­..even though they incited fear, hate, among the people - & Sarah, although pro-life, killed animals for the sport of it. To a sane & rational society, people who go around uttering hateful/derogatory remarks against the President of the United States of America (albeit not sworn it to office, yet), & /or government, those are the ones that need to be examined. President - elect, Barack Obama, is the very right choice - he is so above all the pettiness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 AM on 11/07/2008
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Nurse Stanek,
As a health care professional myself, let me tell you this: You dishonor the profession by refusing to adhere to the facts, by deliberately distorting the truth, and dehumanize those who you disagree with.

Shame on you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 11/07/2008

I like to understand as much from both sides of the issue as possible, so I was wondering if you could elaborate? What facts, specifically, is Nurse Stanek not adhering to / misrepresenting?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 11/07/2008
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Almost everyday i met people that i wish their mothers had aborted or beterr yet never conceived.

i wish we were as interested in human population control as we are of say the cat or dog or rat poulations in america and the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 11/07/2008
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That has got to be one of the most inhumane statements I have ever heard a liberal say.."almo­st everyday I meet prople that I wish their mothers had aborted...­" What kind of a human being are you? Simply because one does not have the same views as you does not mean they should have been aborted by their mothers...­.

Liberalsim, as I can see from your comment, is alive and well in America...­how sad

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 11/07/2008

This is the kind of sentiment that is growing across America. It is, in part, an extension of the abortive mentality - that personhood is subjective. We believe we have the right to bequeath personhood on an individual or retract it on a whim, depending on real or perceived convenience. It is a very short journey from "this person should have been aborted" to "this person shouldn't be alive now" to "let's dispose of this person". Look at history (the holocaust, slavery, or any other period of time where personhood was arbitrary). We said "never again." Did we really mean it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 11/07/2008

More abortions were performed during the Bush administration than in the Clinton years.

McCain said he doesn't want women to do illegal abortions and that he wants the mother to be safe, in other words he wants to have it both ways. He wants the pro and anti abortion vote . Obama will work to reduce the number of abortions . Abortion is a political football for politicians until the election ends. So get off your righteous soapbox and realize that you are nothing but a pawn in this game.
I'm a born again Christian and I voted in 00 and 04 for Bush. I am for life and I voted for Obama. I believe he will work to reduce the # of abortions instead of exploiting your sense of duty using your vote for the unborn while the Banking system is collapsing.
Principle like telling the truth are important but I guess you can overlook these virtues and point your pointy fingers at the new administration while you lose your home, retirement, kids college ed.ect...,­being self righteous . I don't believe a woman should use abortion as birth control any more than the next person, but just like the last 8 years, abortion in the Repubilicain party won't even be mentioned until the next election. Just wait you'll see, I did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 11/07/2008

wow, the republicans Still want to take away my birth control?!!!

WTF?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 11/07/2008

Nurse Stanek, as one of the 63 million that voted for Barack Hussein Obama what I do say is, "I do not care about you, and what you have to say." Church and State should continue to remain separate and abortion has no place in politics. This medical procedure is between a patient and her doctor, not her nurse. You are an extremist who is determined to envoke your views onto the population. You have even gone so far as to try to intimidate churches into this cultural war. You like so many before you seek to decide who and what is Christian. Ms Stanek you are not God, in fact do not delude yourself into thinking you are even his messenger. And stop refering to my president as a barbarian before I get angry!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 11/07/2008
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Nurse Stanek, as one of the 63 million that voted for Barack Hussein Obama what I do say is, "eat s hlt, roll over, and di e."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 11/07/2008
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Yeah! what khiva said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 11/07/2008
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And this is why Obama needs extra secret service detail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 11/07/2008

Ah, one of those who thinks birth control is responsible for the "downfall of the American family". You can't expect sanity on _anything_ connected personal rights/family issues from those people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 11/07/2008
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