Pelosi Pledges Aid To Automakers, Strings Attached

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KEN THOMAS | November 15, 2008 05:44 PM EST | AP

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Chevrolet salesman Philip Jordan, center, assists Charlotte Olson, right, who's looking to buy a car for her 18-year-old daughter, Kari Olson, left, Wednesday, Nov. 12, 2008, in downtown Los Angeles. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson called autos a "critical industry" Wednesday but said a $700 billion financial rescue program wasn't designed for them. The White House was noncommital, but said it was open to new ideas. (AP Photo/Ric Francis)

WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Saturday the House would provide aid to the ailing U.S. auto industry, requiring that the industry meet new fuel-efficiency standards, produce advanced vehicles and restructure "to ensure their long-term economic viability."

Pelosi, D-Calif., did not disclose the amount of funding House leaders intend to seek for the industry _ automakers have been seeking $25 billion in loans to stabilize their sinking companies. But she said the funding should come from the $700 billion financial bailout approved by Congress in October.

"A restructured, competitive American automobile industry will continue to play a crucial role in our national economy and in the global marketplace," Pelosi said in a statement.

The move sets up a conflict with the White House, which has opposed using the bailout funds to help General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler LLC. The Detroit companies have been battered by an economic meltdown that has choked their sales and frozen credit.

U.S. automakers are lobbying lawmakers furiously for an emergency infusion of cash. GM has warned it might not survive through year's end without a government lifeline.

President-elect Barack Obama said he believes that aid is needed but that it should be provided as part of a long-term plan for a "sustainable U.S. auto industry" _ not simply as a blank check.

"For the auto industry to completely collapse would be a disaster in this kind of environment," Obama said in an interview with CBS's "60 Minutes" that will air Sunday. "So my hope is that over the course of the next week, between the White House and Congress, the discussions are shaped around providing assistance but making sure that that assistance is conditioned on labor, management, suppliers, lenders, all of the stakeholders coming together with a plan _ what does a sustainable U.S. auto industry look like?"

Pelosi said the plan would call for "immediate, targeted assistance" and must include several principles, including the restructuring of the companies "to ensure their long-term economic viability," new fuel-efficiency standards, and the development of advanced vehicles.

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She said it would include "even stronger limits on executive compensation and assurances to protect the taxpayer." House aides said the legislation was still being developed and a specific funding level had not yet been reached.

Pelosi did not mention any plans for the UAW to make any concessions as part of the legislation. UAW president Ron Gettelfinger told reporters earlier Saturday the problem is not the union's contract with the auto companies.

"The focus has to be on the economy as a whole as opposed to a UAW contract," Gettelfinger said. The union has said it made several concessions in its 2007 labor agreement, setting lower pay for new hires and placing retiree health care liability into a trust run by the UAW.

Facing an uphill battle in Congress and stiff opposition from President George W. Bush, supporters of the government bailout have considered reducing its $25 billion size. A House aide said Saturday that $25 billion was still the amount being discussed.

"There's a need for immediate action," Alan Reuther, the United Auto Workers union's legislative director, said Friday. He said one option under consideration was a smaller, more targeted amount of funding "that would get the companies through to March."

Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., said negotiations were taking place among senators on what the amount should be. "This is about getting enough votes to be able to solve the problem," she said.

Other auto suppliers and dealers with showrooms empty of customers plan to join the effort Monday when Congress returns following the Nov. 4 elections. The key Senate vote on preventing opponents from blocking the package could occur as early as Wednesday.

Democrats want to carve a portion of the $700 billion that the Bush administration is using to bail out banks, insurance companies and other financial institutions. The White House on Friday came out firmly against the approach.

White House press secretary Dana Perino said the administration would rather Congress expedite the release of a separate $25 billion loan program for the development of fuel-efficient vehicles and have the loans used for more urgent purposes as the companies struggle to stay afloat.

"Democrats are choosing a path that would only lead to partisan gridlock," Perino said.

Pelosi said Saturday that any attempt to divert money from the loan program would be a "step backward in assuring the viability and competitiveness of the U.S. auto industry."

Environmentalists and Pelosi have vehemently opposed using that money for anything other than designing and building vehicles that get higher gas mileage and produce less pollution. Democrats hold a 37-seat majority in the House and bailout supporters foresee little difficulty winning its passage there.

But the measure needs 60 votes to survive in the Senate, where Democrats will hold a razor-thin 50-49 majority when President-elect Barack Obama gives up his seat on Monday. A furious search was on for a dozen Republicans to break the anticipated filibuster from opponents.

Several Republicans have already lined up against it. "Like most Americans who are concerned about the direction of our economy and more federal spending, I must also ask _ when is enough, enough?" said Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas.

Two Republicans _ Kit Bond of Missouri and George Voinovich of Ohio _ said they will back the plan. Several other Republican senators have signaled they might accept a rescue if strict conditions are put on Detroit's Big Three companies, including management and salary changes, union concessions and a commitment to making more fuel-efficient vehicles.

Bond, whose home state of Missouri has several auto plants, said the concept of government mixing with the free market was "very troublesome." But he added, "We have to act in unique times of crisis when tens of thousands of Missouri workers are in danger of losing their jobs."

Democrats are modeling their bill on the bailout terms that the Bush administration has used for doling out $290 billion to banks and insurance companies. The government would get an ownership stake in the auto companies in exchange for the loans to ensure that taxpayers would get their money back if they return to profitability.

WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Saturday the House would provide aid to the ailing U.S. auto industry, requiring that the industry meet new fuel-efficiency standards, produce advanc...
WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Saturday the House would provide aid to the ailing U.S. auto industry, requiring that the industry meet new fuel-efficiency standards, produce advanc...
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The bailout will be a joke.
Seriously, what high school or college student has a transportation goal of driving a Ford, Chrysler or a Chevy, these cars are for senior citizens. BTW - I do not care what the little 3 have for technology, they can come out with an electric car getting 80 miles to the gallon and Honday and Toyota will have a better, more reliable and maintenance free car that gets 100 MPG.
It's over for Detroit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 12/06/2008
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Bridge loan isn't a joke Gm meets payrole and 500,000 retirees get payed and people layed off get payed if not because people wanting the best will lose GM spent billions more on pilot cars that haven't been built for market and their bet was the payrole could be met ,now the recession has hit bad gas is going down because the gas stations are not getting customers and might close up because no income. This is only bad if now you might have to drive two hours to get gas. The fact that your education might be for nothing and the money spent by you or your parents is the gamble GM has made in the past and won you should know if in fact the auto industry fails the cost will be your burdon for years to come . Think the companies are on the hook for millions of people Retired and layed off say at 30,000 a year with medical at a nother 10,000 what in Gods name happens to those people other than the Government picks up the cost. you want to see another war within America with brother agenst brother ?The have and the have nots is won't be pritty .Forget the Cars it would be the North and the South again. GOD Bless America

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 12/07/2008

Instead of a bailout or bankruptcy, why can’t we employ a private equity investment model for a Big 3 turnaround? In keeping with capitalist ideals, this positions the taxpayer as investor rather than donor and preferably reorganizes the industry on a “what’s good for GM is good for America (first)” basis. Each manufacturer could take or leave the offer.

Acceptance of the turnaround offer would establish an oversight and inspection group that would shadow top management to ensure that program mandates for immediate production of fuel efficient and priority production of alternative fuel vehicles are met. Massive R&D support would be provided both in-house and to public and private institutions in order to “moon shot” the development of necessary technology. Taxpayers would own the fruits of R&D until commercial production, at which ownership would be transferred to program participants.

The taxpayer would take warrants and always-on-top preferred stock earning yields typical for this type of investment with claw-backs over 10-20 years from commercial viability of the new technology. Labor would take a haircut on existing wages and benefit schedules in exchange for part ownership in the participating companies (at which the labor is employed). Labor’s interest would be represented by preferred stock which would be subordinated to the taxpayers’ interest until bought out.

The result should be a healthy auto-manufacturing industry, secure jobs, increased energy independence and a profit for the taxpayer. What’s wrong (or un-capitalistic or un-American about that)?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 11/17/2008
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Why do I read so much from well educated people that have no Idea what is involved in building and maintaining the Auto industry. Then going back to my days in Detroit I was told the industry was going to assembly only and I told the people at that meeting it wouldn't work.without Manufactoring . I was told to look at the big picture. Big Picture is here and I didn't want to be right and I have been out of it for 15 years If Payrole isn't met the cost to America will be more than it could handle . The benifactors for millions of people is on the line not only today but millions from yesterday and tomorrow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 12/07/2008

Capitalize the profits and socialize the losses. Nationalizing GM, Ford and Chrysler is a terrible idea and will be very bad for the country for so many reasons. First, amazingly, we will find out politicians run auto companies even worse the current big three management.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 11/16/2008
- avicenna I'm a Fan of avicenna 25 fans permalink
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This is what I've come to call the paradox of the Wisdom Tooth. Our body invests quite a bit of energy and resources to spout out molars that the majority of us don't need - and which eventually cause more problems so that we have to invest even more money and pain in having them extracted. It may be an innate thing, but why do we keep investing in such unnecessary pain?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 11/16/2008
- cuomofied I'm a Fan of cuomofied 19 fans permalink

Um, why doesn't the oil industry bail out the car companies? They have a vested interest in making sure the transition to hybrid vehicles is slowed or stopped, which will absolutely be required if Congress takes action. This way, they can at least reap some of the profits. It would seem in their best interest to simply merge altogether.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 11/16/2008

When are democrats going to wise up to the fact that Pelosi is part of the Bush administration? She seems to block all important legislation that would hurt Bush and back his plans. She takes impeachment off the table so congress can get important work done then does nothing. She funds Bush's war and now wants to bail out auto giants. Let the auto industry go through bankruptcy like the airline industry had to. If tax payers bail out GM, Ford and Chrysler whats to keep Wal-Mart from putting it's hand out for money next? Or how about Starbucks? They employ a lot of people around the country and are going through some really tough times. The money we are giving Wall street and the banks doesn't really exist. It is credit that our grandchildren will be paying for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 11/16/2008
- Muskered I'm a Fan of Muskered 3 fans permalink

Strings attached? Like that's goning to make a difference to those weasels in Detroit and DC? Congress and Detroit . . . Congress and Detroit . . . Congress and Detroit. My God, think about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 11/16/2008
- DeSwiss I'm a Fan of DeSwiss 35 fans permalink
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Only if they build GREEN!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 11/16/2008
- bluguy8 I'm a Fan of bluguy8 25 fans permalink

Is this a personal loan ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 11/16/2008
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If it's just to get them by until March, isn't that more like a payday loan? What does Michigan allow moneychangers to charge on those? Here in Oregon, some recent legislation just lowered the ceiling below 500% or something, and that was considered progress! Well, let's see some similar progress in what the taxpayers charge the Welfare Corporatists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 11/16/2008
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"Companies fail everyday and others take their place. I think this is a road we should not go down," said Shelby, the senior Republican on the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee. "They're not building the right products," he said. "They've got good workers but I don't believe they've got good management. They don't innovate. They're a dinosaur in a sense."

Added Kyl, the Senate's second-ranking Republican: "Just giving them $25 billion doesn't change anything. It just puts off for six months or so the day of reckoning."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081116/ap_on_go_co/auto_bailout

Wonder what PORKL the repubs want THIS time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 11/16/2008
- sklfcats I'm a Fan of sklfcats 4 fans permalink

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 11/16/2008

How many people are you willing to see out of work? How many hundreds of thousands of retirees, will lose their pensions and healthcare? Is that a burden we can take on? I am not thrilled with bailing the car companies out, but the consequences to letting them go under is also enormous. It will affect more than just the USA and we are already in a precarious position. There needs to be strings attached and some oversight. Many analysts have said the car companies have been reckless in the management of their businesses, they need to be held accountable again just like the financial market crooks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 11/16/2008
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How many hundreds of thousands of retirees, will lose their pensions and healthcare?
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Zero, but I suggest we just pay the government's funds directly to them, including not only pensions and healthcare, but up to four years of education grants, extended on the same conditions as education loans: graduate on time and pay back nothing until then. In this case, pay nothing, just as long as you graduate on time, and if not then pay only for any classes that have to be taken or re-taken beyond four years from the date of initial enrollment. The same grants should be available for everything from ASE and similar vehicle maintenance training to baccalaureate level science and engineering instruction, and graduate level education for anybody ready to enroll at that level within the four-year timeframe.

Let the laid off workers consider the free market, and decide for themselves what to study and where to study it, with no more government input than was exerted on the auto industry, ie zero.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 11/16/2008
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IT IS NOT A BAIL OUT please stop the insane idea that loaning to an industry that supports over 600.000 is not viable yes the problem is their is no money coming in for payrole and in GM there are 6 pilot cars in 6 plants that the public has no idea of the cost and the billions involved just listen to the people on fox that couldent run a one car funeral .MR Oboma who is making it look as the industry has no idea what it is doing,not like him who is already running a ship with no rudder. The thought of millions of people from the past that are retired the people layed off. you will do it now ,the loan or your Mr Oboma will pay later by taxing any American with a job. Then looking at the Government jobs where is this money going to come from? the sales of imports or lay them off the country better be ready for the biggest internal war with the haves and the have nots in Government and the general public

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 12/07/2008
- 0emissions I'm a Fan of 0emissions 3 fans permalink
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Our worldDOES NOT NEED more cars on our streets and roads.
We need PEACE and Quiet.
Put the autoworkers to work building light rail and electric buses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 11/16/2008

How are you going to do that if the entire industry fails?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 11/16/2008
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Take whatever figure that Senator Levin and the rest of the Michigan lobby agree upon, and invest it instead for renewable energy education for every interested Big Three manufacturing employee. Let the overpaid middle and upper management, marketing and advertising and public relations employees fend for themselves, as they intended to do to the workers.

Guess what, everybody agrees to stick it to YOU instead. How about that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 11/16/2008
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Good idea but it was let go because the government wanted a leaner meaner company Thinking back when GM built school busses and tilt cab transport tractors as well as owning White truck and involved with GM Volvo but times change and if it happens that GM Ford and what is left of Chrysler locate to Canada and Mexico and China there will always be funds for the retirees and a market in the USA for GM Ford and Chrysler cars. America Wins all your cars will then be imports and no more workers to worry about like so many Americans that go to Canada the UAW workers would be welcome to help us build and ship to the USA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 12/07/2008
- LHoney I'm a Fan of LHoney 44 fans permalink
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What has the auto industry done with all the money they receive from the oil industry to continue making these filthy useless automobiles??? Just wondering!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 11/16/2008
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 75 fans permalink
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I wonder myself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 11/16/2008
- wm1066 I'm a Fan of wm1066 35 fans permalink
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How about taking those lucrative government military contracts and give them to our automakers in Detroit like they did in world war 2.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 11/16/2008

That is why we have to end the Iraq war that is emptying the treasury faster than any of this bailouts. If the big three go down, the ripple affect will be very bad for the economy. We need people to have jobs to pay their mortgage, credit card bills, and to spend money in the economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 11/17/2008
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