President-Elect Obama Reaches Out To Former Rivals

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CALVIN WOODWARD | November 16, 2008 06:17 AM EST | AP

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In this Feb. 26, 2008 file photo, then Democratic presidential hopefuls Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., left, and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., respond to a question during a Democratic presidential debate in Cleveland, Ohio. Presidents typically say they want to be surrounded by strong-willed people who have the courage to disagree with them. Obama, reaching out to Clinton and Republicans, actually might mean it. (AP Photo/Mark Duncan, File)

WASHINGTON — Presidents typically say they want to be surrounded by strong-willed people who have the courage to disagree with them. President-elect Barack Obama, reaching out to Hillary Rodham Clinton and Republicans, actually might mean it.

Abraham Lincoln meant it. He appointed his bitter adversaries to crucial posts, choosing as war secretary a man who had called him a "long-armed ape" who "does not know anything and can do you no good."

You could say his Cabinet meetings were frank and open.

Richard Nixon didn't mean it.

"I don't want a government of yes-men," he declared. But among all the president's men, those who said no did so at their peril. He went down a path of destruction in the company of sycophants.

It so happens that Obama and New York Sen. Clinton share a reverence for "Team of Rivals," Doris Kearns Goodwin's book about how Lincoln brought foes into his fold. Clinton listed it during the campaign as the last book she had read. Obama, clearly a student of Lincoln, spoke of it several times.

Now past could be prologue.

Obama is considering Clinton for secretary of state or another senior position, meeting John McCain on Monday to see how his Republican presidential rival might help him in the Senate, and sizing up one-time opponents in both parties for potential recruitment. He made one Democratic presidential opponent, Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, his running mate.

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"I think it reflects a great inner strength on Obama's part that he is seriously considering creating a team of rivals as Lincoln did," Goodwin told The Associated Press on Friday.

"By surrounding himself with people who bring different perspectives, he will increase his options, absorb dissenting views and heighten his ability to speak empathetically to people on different sides of each issue. The challenge, of course, is to ensure that the discussions do not become paralyzing, and that once a decision is made the inner circle accepts that the time for debate is over," she said.

During the bitter primary campaign, Clinton dismissed Obama as a neophyte who could not be trusted to handle crises and who had not done much more in politics than make fancy speeches. Obama sniffed that "you're likable enough, Hillary."

Yet she strongly supported Obama in the general campaign, not unlike William Henry Seward, the Hillary Clinton of his day.

Seward, the front-runner in the race for the 1860 Republican nomination, was so confident of taking the prize that he went on an eight-month tour of Europe a year earlier, only to see Lincoln vanquish him. Lincoln buried animosities and made him secretary of state.

Lincoln also enlisted Democrat Edwin Stanton as his second war secretary, despite being humiliated by Stanton years earlier when they worked together as trial lawyers. Salmon P. Chase, a constant critic of Lincoln and another Republican rival, became his treasury secretary. Other rivals were put in the Cabinet, too.

Lincoln's reasoning: "We needed the strongest men. These were the very strongest men. I had no right to deprive the country of their services."

None of this has been lost on Obama, who said in May that Lincoln's inclusion of former foes "has to be the approach that one takes."

At the time, he said he would consider McCain for the Cabinet if that made sense. Now, aides for both men say such a move is not in the works but they will seek other ways to cooperate.

To be sure, the pledge to build a strong and politically diverse Cabinet of people who will not be cowed by the president and his aides is made in one election after another. It usually has all the staying power of a New Year's resolution.

Michael Nelson, in his "Guide to the Presidency," noted that Jimmy Carter promised: "There will never be an instance while I am in office where the members of the White House staff dominate or act in a superior position to the members of the Cabinet."

That didn't last long. Carter met weekly with his Cabinet in his first year, every two weeks in his second, monthly in his third and only sporadically in his fourth, Nelson calculated, tracing a typical pattern of good intentions lost in the wind.

Walter Hickel, Nixon's interior secretary, thought the president valued his contrary views "because, to me, an adversary in an organization is a valuable asset." Not to Nixon.

Hickel came to realize Nixon "considered an adversary an enemy." The two particularly disagreed over the Alaskan pipeline _ the secretary wanted to protect wilderness lands coveted by the oil companies.

During one testy meeting, he asked Nixon whether he should leave his administration. "He jumped from his chair, very hurried and agitated," Hickel recalled. "He said, 'That's one option we hadn't considered.'" A week later, Hickel was fired.

Goodwin says a true team of rivals is exceptionally difficult to make work in these days of hyperpartisanship, scandal-hungry blogs and raw feelings between parties and factions of the same party from the often nasty campaign. Disharmony in Lincoln's Cabinet was largely kept inside the meetings, exposed years later in memoirs, and that's not how the world works anymore.

Still, she said the even-keeled Obama displayed a temperament in the campaign that could help him pull it off.

"And I believe the country would respond with great enthusiasm, recognizing the great contrast to recent times."

Obama invited dissent in his election night victory speech, promising, "I will listen to you, especially when we disagree."

It remains to be seen whether he wants naysaying of the kind delivered by Stanton, who served as Democrat James Buchanan's attorney general in one of the few instances in history when a Cabinet member from one party has gone on to serve a president of the other party in the succeeding administration.

"You are sleeping on a volcano," he warned Buchanan in the lead-up to the Civil War. Without prompt action, "you will be the last president of the United States."

He was no yes-man.

WASHINGTON — Presidents typically say they want to be surrounded by strong-willed people who have the courage to disagree with them. President-elect Barack Obama, reaching out to Hillary Rodham ...
WASHINGTON — Presidents typically say they want to be surrounded by strong-willed people who have the courage to disagree with them. President-elect Barack Obama, reaching out to Hillary Rodham ...
 
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"John Brennan and Jami Miscik, both former intelligence officials under George Tenet, are leading Barack Obama"s review of intelligence agencies and helping make recommendations to the new administration. Brennan has supported warrantless wiretapping and extraordinary rendition and Miscik was involved with the politicized intelligence alleging weapons of mass destruction in the lead up to the war on Iraq."
(Amy Goodman, Democracy Now)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 11/17/2008

If I'd wanted Republicans in power I'd have voted for Republicans. No Republicans. No LIeberman. No way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 11/17/2008
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Who want's Lieberman? Not me..
I'd like the dichotomy of opposing ideals in the President's direct advisers though.
One thing about Barack which I'm seeing so far is his incredible confidence and clarity.
He's not likely to be swept off his feet and manipulated into anything he won't believe
is in our best interest -- Unlike Bush, who'd jump off a bridge if Cheney told him to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 11/17/2008
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Lincoln's VP turned out to be a complete obstructionist in the reconstruction. I hope Obama doesn't put any of his "foes" into a position where they can rise to any real power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 11/17/2008
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i'm pretty sure Biden is a safe bet

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 11/17/2008

Obama did not win the Presidency because the Supreme Court gave it to him. He didn't steal it. He was elected. So now let's give him some support and let's just pretend for a little while that we don't know fully what he should do better than he does. He might pick Hillary because he thinks she would do the best job...and others for the same reason.

I am just so damn happy that we don't have four more years of Bush via McCain I'm kind of enjoying what's going on right now. I am soooooooo thankful!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 11/17/2008

Obama is meeting with MCain because he knows how to get Osama, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 11/16/2008
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Good one. I lol'd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 11/17/2008

He finally has the Big O right where we want him, in the W.H.,,,,,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 11/17/2008

Please don't insult Honest Abe by comparing him to Obama. Also President Lincoln was part of the Republican party. How ironic during the Clinton Administation he balanced the budget with the house majority Republicans. The Clintons and Obamas haven't come clean on anything. They say and do anything to get elected...Furthermore, Secretary of State William Seward is a modern day Sarah Palin. After all you Obama...ites made fun of Sarah. The same way William Seward was made fun of for his purchase of Alaska...aka...Seward's Icebox...Now who's laughing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 11/16/2008
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Starting a sentence with he word "ALSO" is VERY Palinesque.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 11/16/2008
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The Republican party became the Democratic party and vice versa. Lincoln was in reality--in ideology--a Democrat. He brought together Jeffersonian and Jacksonian ideals with the economic policies of Adams and Clay. The union states, the ones that emancipated the slaves, along with the far western states, were the original "Republicans"--and later became the "Democrats". The southern slave states and mountain states became the "Republicans". It's true. The Republicans like to say that Lincoln was one of them and that Democrats started the K K K. Not true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 11/17/2008
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Read Michael Lind's book, "Lincoln, The Great DEMOCRAT".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 11/17/2008
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It leads me to believe that Obama is inspired by Lincoln's presidency, to the extent of picking for
his closest advisers, some liberals, some moderates, and some conservatives, thus a "team of rivals"
also i realize he hasn't even started yet, so there is VERY little for me to criticize other than the
campaign that he had just ran.. A campaign which I thought was run brilliantly. It's my hope he
runs this country half as well as he ran that campaign, and if so, we'd all be in good shape.
But when he takes office, I will be much more critical of him. Besides, I already am criticizing
his position on Auto Industry Bailout. It seems like he's pandering to the UAW, but then again,
who knows if he will perhaps change his position on that before Jan 20th. Hopefully he does.
But I can't criticize him for something he hasn't even done. It seems like many from the far-right,
such as Rush Limbaugh and other extreme right-wingers are criticizing him for the economy and the
state of the country. I mean, to me, that's just text-book "Cuckoo" -- so we'll see what develops.
In the meantime, he hasn't really done much for me to be so hyper-critical over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 11/16/2008
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You're correct in your observation that President-elect Obama should entertain divergent points of view as to the APPROACH he might consider to advance HIS agenda.

Others here feel that it would be OK if he "embraced" those who have demonstrated nothing in the past 8 years other than ideological dogmatism & obstructionism.... not to mention "crimes" of omission in their SILENCE in the face of a neoconservative Administration in it's quest to destroy everything a true American holds dear.

I disagree that he's "pandering" to the UAW.... the auto workers were NOT the ones that made the decisions that led to the abysmal failures of the Big Three..... those choice were cynically made in the executie suites of those corporations... companies that had no compunction in offshoring tens of thousands of jobs, thereby destroying our own manufacturing base.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 11/16/2008
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didn't we give them prior a 25 billion in bailout money already months prior?
We saw not much in results from GM's management or business model.

Now we want to give them another 25 biillion?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 11/16/2008
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I am NOT saying that I'm above criticizing the Obama administration:

I'm just saying.. most of the positions he's chosen to run
on -- with exemption from corporate bailouts, govt. bailouts, etc.
are in line w/ my own. I will be very critical of him if he turns out
to be another Pelosi. But I just don't know yet. But from what I'm seeing
so far from his camp and his choices in terms of picks for staff and cabinet
along with the way he's run his campaign is showing me some kind of indication
of positive things. I think he's playing his cards very close to the vest at the moment,
and that's the smart and right thing to do. But I'm quite intrigued by the reports
from those reporters closest to him, who all say he's been reading and has been quite
inspired by "Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln" by Dorris Kern Goodwin.
A book which I recently read and was very insightful to the ways that Lincoln dealt with at
the time, a much more "Divided" and "Polarized" nation. You should read it if you get a chance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 11/16/2008
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it's my guess and belief that McCain was running for the right reasons.
i.e. love of country, trying to help, believed himself to be a person of change.
but you can't say "country-first" when you pick someone like Sarah Palin as a running
mate. I also think that although he meant well, his failure to admit the vote for Iraq
war engagement was an utter mistake on his part (like Hilary), was another reason
contributing to un-electability this year. I believe he is a good man, and meant well,
but his failure to run as a real maverick instead of a right-wing sock-puppet is where
he lost the election. His choices, his failures, and blaming the media is not feasible.

Obama who ran likely for the same reasons. After all, who the hell would want that job?!?
especially considering he's got clean-up after Bush! McCain and Obama = good men,
but we should never give someone the seat next to the "RED BUTTON" - who jokes or
makes such inappropriate statements like above. It says --- yes, we accept that thinking.
it says.. that's what "America" believes in. It's wrong. Simply put, but McCain has time to
reconcile now. Especially if Obama gives him a shot to help him fix this problem, that's the
type of leadership we need! Working together instead of driving a wedge between us.
If Obama can do that, then we will be a greater country because of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 11/16/2008
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Look, I'm still one of the supporters of Obama, and being in my mid-late 20's,
college educated, voted democrat. I suppose I could also be considered part
of that "O-boomer Gen."

However, while I want to agree with this notion that we are some kind of
new generation of Obama, left-leaning voting blocs for the next two decades,
as many are prophesying, my rational side tells me it's all a bunch of crap.
Obama's and the Democratic Party's successes over the next few years,
WILL undoubtedly affect the next twenty years of voting among those in
my generation, and that will determine whether there is any potential in
a future for the Democratic party. Although, whether or not it will affect
them in a positive or negative light has yet seen or yet to be defined..

However, it's hard to deny there will be a direct relationship to how a
'successful' Obama administration (in the eyes of my generation) will
eventually serve the party and their future success with our voting bloc.
We don't like or agree with Senator Reid or Madame Speaker Pelosi either.

____________________________
Here's what it all boils down to.
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Whether - Obama will be a CHANGE candidate,
i.e. transcendent of the politics of the current.
Our newly elected Democratic Majority in congress,
whose actions cause me be concerned for the future success
of the Democratic Party as well as our country in general.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 11/16/2008
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Sorry, my attention span is too short and I did not read your post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 11/16/2008
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Haha. it's ok

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 11/16/2008
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I agree that Reid & Pelosi were woefully ineffective in their post... we can speculate ad infinitum as to why..... an obstructionist, filibuster-prone opposition... a scant ONE vote majority in the Senate (INCLUDING Lieberman)... some opine that, by way of the "Patriot Act" that dirt may have been dug up on the Dem leadership to cow them.

Whatever.

It appears now that there is substantial enough majorities in BOTH Houses to override those bent on impeding our progress... so there won't be any excuses this time.

MY choices for leadership positions would lean more toward people like Russ Feeingold to lead the Senate... & Dennis Kucinich to be Speaker of the House... BOTH of whom are impeccable in their credentials.... "clean as a whistle"... & FEARLESS to a fault.

The most lasting effect of this new Administration will be our Judicial System... the SCOTUS... & thre restoration of the Dept. of Justice from what has become a department filled with political hacks back to one that actually has RESPECT for the rule of law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 11/16/2008
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If they screw it up.. Like they have since 2006, what will they use as their excuse?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 11/17/2008

if obama picks hiliary it will only be so she cant run against him in 4..he knows his first term is gonna suck.. more war..bad economy and No election promises will come to fruition..unfortunately she will be stupid if she gives up senate..

and whats with all the washington insiders for all the appoinments????
change my a$$

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 11/16/2008

Hear, hear. Think if Progressives become his foes, he will stop treating them like chopped liver. That grassroots group is not goiing to be folded into the Democratic party without notice. They may find that the e-mail list will become obsolete very quickly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 11/16/2008
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Anyone who thinks that Obama is going start by governing from the mid to far left has to be under 32 years of age. If you are over 32, then you would remember that Clinton tried that. One of the first things he did was try to allow g@ys in the military and he got a hard sm@ck-down from the right that never ended. He had to retreat and put in don't ask, don't tell instead, and never regained his footing. Political capital is important and O has to be careful how he uses it- especially in the beginning.

The "progressives" need to hang on, have faith, and not ruin it for all the Dems forever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 11/17/2008
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Obama has 4 years before running again. Chances are Hillary will only be SoS for abt 2 years before she moves on- for one reason or another- to other projects. He will have time to smooth out any messes that she gets blamed for before the next election. She's a big enough fish that she can take the heat and still be successful w/o an elected position. Win-win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 11/17/2008
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But the ex-First Lady would first have to go through a gruelling confirmation process on Capitol Hill at which, The Sunday Telegraph has learned, Republican senators will raise her husband's secrecy-shrouded business deals and fund-raising for his glitzy presidential library and foundation.

Former President Bill Clinton has consistently refused to provide the names of the donors, but newspaper investigations have identified a slew of foreign contributors, many from oil-rich G ulf states. His lucrative consultancy work for a friend's investment group has also involved dealings with A rab partners.

Republican strategists are dusting off plans to expose Mr Clinton's financial ties, which they will argue represent a serious conflict of interest for his wife as the country's top diplomat.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3464473/Hillary-Clinton-would-face-tough-questions-about-Bills-finances-if-chosen-for-Secretary-of-State.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 11/16/2008

A previous poster suggested that Obama was choosing Hillary to keep her from running in 2012. But maybe it is because he wants to see her vetted by the Republicans. They might ruin her chances for another run. She may just decide to stay in the Senate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 11/16/2008
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She has to say no - can't be vetted. That was made clear when people talked about her being VP. Obama knew this all along and so does Richardson. Don't forget, Obama is a brilliant politician.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 11/16/2008
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Do you really trust Capitol Hill to ask tough questions? Why would Bill of the famous "can you define ____ " (I've forgotten the word as it was a laughable and not important, IMO) not be prepared for anything. He handled his bushwacking back then pretty good and he was not prepared for it. Keep in mind that they are both shrewd lawyers and have certainly anticipated this. If Hillary wants this I believe she will be prepared. For the record, my pick for this position was Richardson--all along.

Saw it was slowing down and wanted to add my nickle's worth, so to speak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 11/16/2008
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They don't need to ask any questions of her. All they need to do is vote.

Cabinet officers are nominated by the President and then presented to the United States Senate for confirmation or rejection by a simple majority.

I would like to know what Democrat- in the Democratic controlled Senate- would buck the wishes of the President Obama in the Confirmation of his cabinet? And what Republican would Filibuster when even Kissinger says it would be an "outstanding appointment"?

Give it up. If Obama wants her in his cabinet, she is in it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 11/17/2008

I really hope that the stories swimming around MSNBC about giving McCain Secretary of Defense are NOT TRUE. What was this election all about?? Giving Defense back to the Republicans? I think not... it would be a catastrophic mistake for Obama to do this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 11/16/2008

Why not just get Rummy back? This is insane!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 11/16/2008
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Pat Buchanan said of McCain on Super Tuesday (Feb 8, 08):

"If McCain gets elected, he would make Chen*y look like Gandh/."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 11/17/2008

That's pure rumors...The transition team has already indicated that McCain & Obama wont be talking about any cabinet position. Its being speculated that Gates will stay on at defense if Obama asks him too,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 11/17/2008

I hope President-elect Obama thinks outside the box and gives H1llary Homeland Security instead of SoS.

I think that is the real job for her, but not SoS for God's sake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 11/16/2008

After all, she's on the Armed Svces Committee and likes 3 a.m. phonecalls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 11/16/2008

No, i would truly prefer to see her as SOS...Her being SOS brings gravitas to the office and can command the attention/respect of foreign leaders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 11/17/2008
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If I were Sarah's publicist, knowing that she has no perceptible conscience, I would recommend that she disappear Todd on the North Slope and pin in on Joe the Plumber - that'll get her a spot on Oprah and beyond.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 11/16/2008
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