President-Elect Obama Reaches Out To Former Rivals

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CALVIN WOODWARD | November 16, 2008 06:17 AM EST | AP

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In this Feb. 26, 2008 file photo, then Democratic presidential hopefuls Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., left, and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., respond to a question during a Democratic presidential debate in Cleveland, Ohio. Presidents typically say they want to be surrounded by strong-willed people who have the courage to disagree with them. Obama, reaching out to Clinton and Republicans, actually might mean it. (AP Photo/Mark Duncan, File)

WASHINGTON — Presidents typically say they want to be surrounded by strong-willed people who have the courage to disagree with them. President-elect Barack Obama, reaching out to Hillary Rodham Clinton and Republicans, actually might mean it.

Abraham Lincoln meant it. He appointed his bitter adversaries to crucial posts, choosing as war secretary a man who had called him a "long-armed ape" who "does not know anything and can do you no good."

You could say his Cabinet meetings were frank and open.

Richard Nixon didn't mean it.

"I don't want a government of yes-men," he declared. But among all the president's men, those who said no did so at their peril. He went down a path of destruction in the company of sycophants.

It so happens that Obama and New York Sen. Clinton share a reverence for "Team of Rivals," Doris Kearns Goodwin's book about how Lincoln brought foes into his fold. Clinton listed it during the campaign as the last book she had read. Obama, clearly a student of Lincoln, spoke of it several times.

Now past could be prologue.

Obama is considering Clinton for secretary of state or another senior position, meeting John McCain on Monday to see how his Republican presidential rival might help him in the Senate, and sizing up one-time opponents in both parties for potential recruitment. He made one Democratic presidential opponent, Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, his running mate.

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"I think it reflects a great inner strength on Obama's part that he is seriously considering creating a team of rivals as Lincoln did," Goodwin told The Associated Press on Friday.

"By surrounding himself with people who bring different perspectives, he will increase his options, absorb dissenting views and heighten his ability to speak empathetically to people on different sides of each issue. The challenge, of course, is to ensure that the discussions do not become paralyzing, and that once a decision is made the inner circle accepts that the time for debate is over," she said.

During the bitter primary campaign, Clinton dismissed Obama as a neophyte who could not be trusted to handle crises and who had not done much more in politics than make fancy speeches. Obama sniffed that "you're likable enough, Hillary."

Yet she strongly supported Obama in the general campaign, not unlike William Henry Seward, the Hillary Clinton of his day.

Seward, the front-runner in the race for the 1860 Republican nomination, was so confident of taking the prize that he went on an eight-month tour of Europe a year earlier, only to see Lincoln vanquish him. Lincoln buried animosities and made him secretary of state.

Lincoln also enlisted Democrat Edwin Stanton as his second war secretary, despite being humiliated by Stanton years earlier when they worked together as trial lawyers. Salmon P. Chase, a constant critic of Lincoln and another Republican rival, became his treasury secretary. Other rivals were put in the Cabinet, too.

Lincoln's reasoning: "We needed the strongest men. These were the very strongest men. I had no right to deprive the country of their services."

None of this has been lost on Obama, who said in May that Lincoln's inclusion of former foes "has to be the approach that one takes."

At the time, he said he would consider McCain for the Cabinet if that made sense. Now, aides for both men say such a move is not in the works but they will seek other ways to cooperate.

To be sure, the pledge to build a strong and politically diverse Cabinet of people who will not be cowed by the president and his aides is made in one election after another. It usually has all the staying power of a New Year's resolution.

Michael Nelson, in his "Guide to the Presidency," noted that Jimmy Carter promised: "There will never be an instance while I am in office where the members of the White House staff dominate or act in a superior position to the members of the Cabinet."

That didn't last long. Carter met weekly with his Cabinet in his first year, every two weeks in his second, monthly in his third and only sporadically in his fourth, Nelson calculated, tracing a typical pattern of good intentions lost in the wind.

Walter Hickel, Nixon's interior secretary, thought the president valued his contrary views "because, to me, an adversary in an organization is a valuable asset." Not to Nixon.

Hickel came to realize Nixon "considered an adversary an enemy." The two particularly disagreed over the Alaskan pipeline _ the secretary wanted to protect wilderness lands coveted by the oil companies.

During one testy meeting, he asked Nixon whether he should leave his administration. "He jumped from his chair, very hurried and agitated," Hickel recalled. "He said, 'That's one option we hadn't considered.'" A week later, Hickel was fired.

Goodwin says a true team of rivals is exceptionally difficult to make work in these days of hyperpartisanship, scandal-hungry blogs and raw feelings between parties and factions of the same party from the often nasty campaign. Disharmony in Lincoln's Cabinet was largely kept inside the meetings, exposed years later in memoirs, and that's not how the world works anymore.

Still, she said the even-keeled Obama displayed a temperament in the campaign that could help him pull it off.

"And I believe the country would respond with great enthusiasm, recognizing the great contrast to recent times."

Obama invited dissent in his election night victory speech, promising, "I will listen to you, especially when we disagree."

It remains to be seen whether he wants naysaying of the kind delivered by Stanton, who served as Democrat James Buchanan's attorney general in one of the few instances in history when a Cabinet member from one party has gone on to serve a president of the other party in the succeeding administration.

"You are sleeping on a volcano," he warned Buchanan in the lead-up to the Civil War. Without prompt action, "you will be the last president of the United States."

He was no yes-man.

WASHINGTON — Presidents typically say they want to be surrounded by strong-willed people who have the courage to disagree with them. President-elect Barack Obama, reaching out to Hillary Rodham ...
WASHINGTON — Presidents typically say they want to be surrounded by strong-willed people who have the courage to disagree with them. President-elect Barack Obama, reaching out to Hillary Rodham ...
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- polaris12 I'm a Fan of polaris12 13 fans permalink

"John Brennan and Jami Miscik, both former intelligence officials under George Tenet, are leading Barack Obama’s review of intelligence agencies and helping make recommendations to the new administration. Brennan has supported warrantless wiretapping and extraordinary rendition and Miscik was involved with the politicized intelligence alleging weapons of mass destruction in the lead up to the war on Iraq."
(Amy Goodman, Democracy Now)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 11/17/2008
- raker I'm a Fan of raker 74 fans permalink

If I'd wanted Republicans in power I'd have voted for Republicans. No Republicans. No LIeberman. No way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 11/17/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
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Lincoln's VP turned out to be a complete obstructionist in the reconstruction. I hope Obama doesn't put any of his "foes" into a position where they can rise to any real power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 11/17/2008
- Purcy I'm a Fan of Purcy 11 fans permalink
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Obama did not win the Presidency because the Supreme Court gave it to him. He didn't steal it. He was elected. So now let's give him some support and let's just pretend for a little while that we don't know fully what he should do better than he does. He might pick Hillary because he thinks she would do the best job...and others for the same reason.

I am just so damn happy that we don't have four more years of Bush via McCain I'm kind of enjoying what's going on right now. I am soooooooo thankful!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 11/17/2008

Obama is meeting with MCain because he knows how to get Osama, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 11/16/2008
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Good one. I lol'd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 11/17/2008

He finally has the Big O right where we want him, in the W.H.,,,,,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 11/17/2008

Please don't insult Honest Abe by comparing him to Obama. Also President Lincoln was part of the Republican party. How ironic during the Clinton Administation he balanced the budget with the house majority Republicans. The Clintons and Obamas haven't come clean on anything. They say and do anything to get elected...­Furthermor­e, Secretary of State William Seward is a modern day Sarah Palin. After all you Obama...ites made fun of Sarah. The same way William Seward was made fun of for his purchase of Alaska...a­ka...Sewar­d's Icebox...Now who's laughing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 11/16/2008
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Starting a sentence with he word "ALSO" is VERY Palinesque.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 11/16/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
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The Republican party became the Democratic party and vice versa. Lincoln was in reality--in ideology--a Democrat. He brought together Jeffersonian and Jacksonian ideals with the economic policies of Adams and Clay. The union states, the ones that emancipated the slaves, along with the far western states, were the original "Republicans"--and later became the "Democrats". The southern slave states and mountain states became the "Republicans". It's true. The Republicans like to say that Lincoln was one of them and that Democrats started the K K K. Not true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 11/17/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
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Read Michael Lind's book, "Lincoln, The Great DEMOCRAT".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 11/17/2008

if obama picks hiliary it will only be so she cant run against him in 4..he knows his first term is gonna suck.. more war..bad economy and No election promises will come to fruition..­unfortunat­ely she will be stupid if she gives up senate..

and whats with all the washington insiders for all the appoinments????
change my a$$

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 11/16/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 64 fans permalink

Hear, hear. Think if Progressives become his foes, he will stop treating them like chopped liver. That grassroots group is not goiing to be folded into the Democratic party without notice. They may find that the e-mail list will become obsolete very quickly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 11/16/2008
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Anyone who thinks that Obama is going start by governing from the mid to far left has to be under 32 years of age. If you are over 32, then you would remember that Clinton tried that. One of the first things he did was try to allow g@ys in the military and he got a hard sm@ck-down from the right that never ended. He had to retreat and put in don't ask, don't tell instead, and never regained his footing. Political capital is important and O has to be careful how he uses it- especially in the beginning.

The "progressives" need to hang on, have faith, and not ruin it for all the Dems forever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 11/17/2008
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Obama has 4 years before running again. Chances are Hillary will only be SoS for abt 2 years before she moves on- for one reason or another- to other projects. He will have time to smooth out any messes that she gets blamed for before the next election. She's a big enough fish that she can take the heat and still be successful w/o an elected position. Win-win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 11/17/2008
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But the ex-First Lady would first have to go through a gruelling confirmation process on Capitol Hill at which, The Sunday Telegraph has learned, Republican senators will raise her husband's secrecy-shrouded business deals and fund-raising for his glitzy presidential library and foundation.

Former President Bill Clinton has consistently refused to provide the names of the donors, but newspaper investigations have identified a slew of foreign contributors, many from oil-rich G ulf states. His lucrative consultancy work for a friend's investment group has also involved dealings with A rab partners.

Republican strategists are dusting off plans to expose Mr Clinton's financial ties, which they will argue represent a serious conflict of interest for his wife as the country's top diplomat.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3464473/Hillary-Clinton-would-face-tough-questions-about-Bills-finances-if-chosen-for-Secretary-of-State.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 11/16/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 64 fans permalink

A previous poster suggested that Obama was choosing Hillary to keep her from running in 2012. But maybe it is because he wants to see her vetted by the Republicans. They might ruin her chances for another run. She may just decide to stay in the Senate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 11/16/2008
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She has to say no - can't be vetted. That was made clear when people talked about her being VP. Obama knew this all along and so does Richardson. Don't forget, Obama is a brilliant politician.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 11/16/2008
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 205 fans permalink
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Do you really trust Capitol Hill to ask tough questions? Why would Bill of the famous "can you define ____ " (I've forgotten the word as it was a laughable and not important, IMO) not be prepared for anything. He handled his bushwacking back then pretty good and he was not prepared for it. Keep in mind that they are both shrewd lawyers and have certainly anticipated this. If Hillary wants this I believe she will be prepared. For the record, my pick for this position was Richardson--all along.

Saw it was slowing down and wanted to add my nickle's worth, so to speak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 11/16/2008
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They don't need to ask any questions of her. All they need to do is vote.

Cabinet officers are nominated by the President and then presented to the United States Senate for confirmation or rejection by a simple majority.

I would like to know what Democrat- in the Democratic controlled Senate- would buck the wishes of the President Obama in the Confirmation of his cabinet? And what Republican would Filibuster when even Kissinger says it would be an "outstanding appointment"?

Give it up. If Obama wants her in his cabinet, she is in it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 11/17/2008

I really hope that the stories swimming around MSNBC about giving McCain Secretary of Defense are NOT TRUE. What was this election all about?? Giving Defense back to the Republicans? I think not... it would be a catastrophic mistake for Obama to do this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 11/16/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 64 fans permalink

Why not just get Rummy back? This is insane!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 11/16/2008
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Pat Buchanan said of McCain on Super Tuesday (Feb 8, 08):

"If McCain gets elected, he would make Chen*y look like Gandh/."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 11/17/2008
- u193302 I'm a Fan of u193302 3 fans permalink

That's pure rumors...The transition team has already indicated that McCain & Obama wont be talking about any cabinet position. Its being speculated that Gates will stay on at defense if Obama asks him too,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 11/17/2008
- larazon I'm a Fan of larazon 19 fans permalink

I hope President-elect Obama thinks outside the box and gives H1llary Homeland Security instead of SoS.

I think that is the real job for her, but not SoS for God's sake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 11/16/2008
- larazon I'm a Fan of larazon 19 fans permalink

After all, she's on the Armed Svces Committee and likes 3 a.m. phonecalls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 11/16/2008
- u193302 I'm a Fan of u193302 3 fans permalink

No, i would truly prefer to see her as SOS...Her being SOS brings gravitas to the office and can command the attention/respect of foreign leaders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 11/17/2008
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If I were Sarah's publicist, knowing that she has no perceptible conscience, I would recommend that she disappear Todd on the North Slope and pin in on Joe the Plumber - that'll get her a spot on Oprah and beyond.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 11/16/2008
- mcantwell I'm a Fan of mcantwell 400 fans permalink
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I was not a Hillary or Bill Clinton fan.....but after watching her (and Bill) put personal feelings aside and go out to campaign for Obama the way she did showed me that Hillary is a team player and that she cares about what is best for this country. I think Obama is smart to get his rivals working with him.

Considering the state of our economy and the two wars, our government has much work to do and failure is not an option. Obama will need experienced and new people around him to present differing perspectives in order to be able to make informed and sound decisions. What he doesn't need is all "Yes" men or women in his Cabinet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 11/16/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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You really believe they campaigned for him with the best of intentions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 11/16/2008
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Why would you use the Clintons at all if you didn't really need them. O didn't need them. It's best to save them for a time when you get yourself in political hot water and need the Cavalry to come to your defense. A big wig like Bill only has that kind of Clout if he saves it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 11/17/2008
- Big0725 I'm a Fan of Big0725 23 fans permalink
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I think I saw Bill and Hillary campaign a handful of times. I wasn't impressed with their output.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 11/16/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 64 fans permalink

Guess friends like Richardson don't count.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 11/16/2008
- duze I'm a Fan of duze 23 fans permalink

Bill Richardson will count very much. After getting a look at Obama's job application, there are a great many people who need not apply, let alone Hillary. Obama is giving her the respect of refusing the position instead of saying she doesn't qualify. Hillary
cannot and will not be able to answer those very important questions about the library. In addition to the Kazakistan connect of Bills. If Obama hired her regardless of the Clinton secrets and information submission refusals, it would undermine the entire message of who he says his presidency belongs to (the people).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 11/16/2008
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OH COME ON!

T-R-A-I-L-E-R

is on the word filter list

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 11/16/2008
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T-R-A-S-H

is too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 11/16/2008
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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Stop talking about Joe the Plumber like that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 11/16/2008
- clsmithj I'm a Fan of clsmithj 9 fans permalink
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I'm curious will the Clinton driven media throw a fit and say Obama snub Hillary... again when he names Bill Richardson his Secretary of State. A historic nomination it will be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 11/16/2008

Barack wants to keep the Clintons as far away from his White House as possible or he will reap a scandal ridden administra­tion......­...it would be a serious lapse in judgement to not understand the clintons are always out for themselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 11/16/2008
- tahoegal I'm a Fan of tahoegal 8 fans permalink

Clinton is a good choice, but watch what you give to McCain. During his campaign he truly looked (and sounded like) he was losing it. Put him in charge of closing Gitmo, or shutting down torture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 11/16/2008
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