Newly Signed SOFA To Spur WIthdrawal, Benefit Obama

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First Posted: 11-19-08 11:06 AM   |   Updated: 12-20-08 05:12 AM

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Sofa Signing

As has been widely reported, the recently signed Status of Forces Agreement between the United States and the Iraqi Cabinet could potentially "[close] the book on the occupation that began with the U.S.-led invasion in 2003." The agreement, which calls for U.S. forces to pull out of Iraqi cities in the middle of next year and remove themselves entirely from Iraq by 2011, reverses the entrenchment that President George W. Bush originally envisioned, and dovetails with the "withdraw-and-redeploy" plan that President-Elect Barack Obama pitched on the stump during his campaign.

Some obstacles remain, most significantly from Moqtada al-Sadr, who's threatened attacks on U.S. troops over the deal, believing that U.S. withdrawal promises are worthless.

Still, this accord stands to benefit Obama in a politically significant way, the key difference being that it was made on this side of Inauguration Day, sparing Obama the sort of "surrender" rhetoric that Senator John McCain attempted to light him up with on the campaign trail. Spencer Ackerman has the money quote from a Pentagon official:

"Politically it is significant. The Iraqis are telling us to leave and the Bush administration, not the Obama administration, has basically agreed to go. Kind of hard for the far right to call what follows surrender or retreat."

And with all parties aligned in support of withdrawal, it's impossible to paint that support as anything other than mainstream.

As has been widely reported, the recently signed Status of Forces Agreement between the United States and the Iraqi Cabinet could potentially "[close] the book on the occupation that began with the U.
As has been widely reported, the recently signed Status of Forces Agreement between the United States and the Iraqi Cabinet could potentially "[close] the book on the occupation that began with the U.
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- DonKrieger I'm a Fan of DonKrieger 3 fans permalink
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Draft Agreement Online:

We have placed an August 13, 2008, version online at
http://publicservice.evendon.com/SOFA-13Aug2008M.htm

If anyone finds a later version, in any language, I would like to post it too. You can email me through the website. Thanks.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 11/20/2008

Exactly! Everyone knows that BULL**** about surrendering and bringing our troops home in DEFEAT rather than VICTORY was a CROCK of ****! John McCain hinged his campaign on this mantra and it is now wonder why the American people sent him a message loud and clear and put an EXCLAMATION POINT on the end of the message. HELL NO! The Republicans are DONE! They screwed this country over for the last time, mark my WORDS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 11/20/2008
- Territc I'm a Fan of Territc 2 fans permalink

People realise this was a war that was never going to won. America invaded a country under false pretenses. The Iraqi people never wanted us there. This war needs to end and the only way it will end is by America pulling all its combative soldiers out and leaving people to help Iraqi rebuild itself. The shell that is now Iraq is America's fault and they need to help rebuilt Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 AM on 11/20/2008
- Head-Liner I'm a Fan of Head-Liner 2 fans permalink

FINALLY we can possibly leave Iraq and spend that money back here in America to supplement these bailouts about to come down the tube. President Obama spoke it and Bush shook in his boots, gave into the Iraqis request and now he can claim the beginning and end of a total mess he created....what a pitiful guy to waste American lives, money, and time in a place that wasn't any iota a threat to our national security......Start cleaning your mess up Bush would be welcomed.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 11/19/2008

"Kind of hard for the far right to call what follows surrender or retreat."

PUULEEASE: If the right (Rush) can call it the "Obama Recession" before he's even in office, what makes you think they won't call it the "Obama Surrender" when troops start coming home under his watch?

Remember the neocons don't want us out of Iraq at all. They want the permanent Middle East presence we lost after 9/11 when we pulled out of Saudi Arabia. Which was Osama's (he's Saudi)main beef with the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 11/19/2008
- Whinger I'm a Fan of Whinger 43 fans permalink
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Good! 122 days and counting, then the guys and gals start coming home!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 11/19/2008

I always get annoyed with this "Victory" argument McCain and Palin brought up.

How can they declare victory in Iraq, If the U.S did not Declare War.
To declare victory, you had to have declared war, which did not occur.

America set itself afew goals for Iraq. Overthrow the Saddam regime, Find the weapon's of Mass Destruction and Create a Stable democracy in Iraq.
Wouldn't achieving those objective's be a success or an Accomplishment and not "Victory"?

Think about it, Michael Jordan sets a goal to land 2 three pointer's. He gets them both in. Isn't that an accomplishment of his goal's and not a victory. Now if Michael Jordan playing with the Chicago Bulls were to win against the New Jersey Net's, That would be a Victory because it is official.

The Iraq war is not official, it is an intervention.
The war on terror is the only war were victory is possible because the war was declared.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 11/19/2008
- Yola I'm a Fan of Yola 11 fans permalink

We won! We won! We won! What a load of crock! How about that bridge to nowhere?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 11/19/2008

FOR FRICKIN YEARS, I have been saying that the GOP will ultimately dress this thing up as victory, claim it and leave...the only difference between this and the retreat paradigm is the narrow-minded perceptions of those on the right wing.

but hey great...VICTORY!!! Now let's go home! m'k?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 11/19/2008

Aren't y'all rushing a little? There is no support for this so-called agreement in Iraqi parliament, Sadr or no Sadr. Just wait and you will see. Why should a soverein state sign ANY AGREEMENT with an OCCUPYING country?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 11/19/2008

haha i love that quote abt it all being politically significant... the republicans cant be mad at obama while he withdraws the troops.... the deal was made under bush and the current iraqi government.

perfecto... Obama is a visionary.... great thinker and knows what is right

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 11/19/2008
- Donnat I'm a Fan of Donnat 21 fans permalink

Even Bush is scared of Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 11/19/2008
- mcantwell I'm a Fan of mcantwell 285 fans permalink
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Exactly what does "winning" in Iraq mean to the Repubs anyway? Bush said we would be out of there quickly once Saddam was neutralized. Bush never had an exit stategy, and McCain wanted us in Iraq for 100 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 11/19/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 210 fans permalink

[Some obstacles remain, most significantly from Moqtada al-Sadr, who's threatened attacks on U.S. troops over the deal, believing that U.S. withdrawal promises are worthless. ]

Jeebus that makes no sense. He doesn't believe withdrawl promises, but wants us gone, so he is going to stir up trouble so that we stay LONGER?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 11/19/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 43 fans permalink
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makes one wonder

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 11/19/2008

Ok this guy either has the foresight of a sage or the luck of the devil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 11/19/2008
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