Conservatives Call On Bush To Release Gitmo Detainees

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HOPE YEN | November 20, 2008 09:22 AM EST | AP


WASHINGTON — A group of conservatives is chastising the Bush administration for refusing to free 17 Turkic Muslims being held without charges at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, saying their continued detention defies legal principles and "undermines our standing in the world."

The 10 conservatives, including legal scholars and officials who worked for Republican presidents, said the Uighurs _ a group of Muslims from China _ should be freed immediately because they are no longer considered enemy combatants. Their statement comes as a federal appeals court was set to hear arguments next week on whether the Bush administration overstepped its constitutional bounds by blocking the Uighurs' release.

"The executive branch is wrong to have detained the Uighurs for nearly seven years without meaningful review," says a letter being released Thursday by The Constitution Project, a bipartisan think tank. "Moreover, it is wrong in opposing the exercise of their habeas corpus rights, and it is wrong in asserting they can be detained indefinitely."

The letter was signed by Stephen E. Abraham, a 26-year veteran of military intelligence who played a key role in the "enemy combatant" hearings at Guantanamo Bay before repudiating the process last year; Col. Lawrence B. Wilkerson, who served as chief of staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell; and Bruce Fein, former associate deputy attorney general in the Reagan administration.

"The continued detention of the 17 Uighurs in Guantanamo compromises our principles and undermines our standing in the world," they wrote.

U.S. District Judge Ricardo M. Urbina in October ordered the government to immediately free the detainees into the United States, criticizing their detention as having "crossed the constitutional threshold into infinitum."

But the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit blocked their release while the Justice Department appeals the decision, a process that could take years.

At issue is whether a federal judge has the authority to order the release of prisoners at the U.S. naval facility at Guantanamo Bay who were unlawfully detained by the U.S. and cannot be sent back to their homeland.

The Uighurs (pronounced WEE'-gurz), who are Turkic-speaking Muslims in western China, have been cleared for release but fear they will be tortured if they are turned over to China.

The Bush administration, which contends the Uighurs are too dangerous to be admitted into the U.S., has said it was continuing "heightened" efforts to find another country to accept them. Albania accepted five Uighur detainees in 2006 but since has balked at taking others, partly for fear of diplomatic repercussions from China.

Other signers to Thursday's statement are David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union, a lobbying group; Richard Epstein, a prominent conservative legal scholar at the University of Chicago; former FBI director William Sessions; Thomas B. Evans Jr., former co-chairman of the Republican National Committee; Mickey Edwards, former chairman of the House Republican Policy Committee; John W. Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute; and Don Wallace Jr., chairman of the International Law Institute.

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On the Net:

The Constitution Project: http://www.constitutionproject.org/

WASHINGTON — A group of conservatives is chastising the Bush administration for refusing to free 17 Turkic Muslims being held without charges at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, saying their continued dete...
WASHINGTON — A group of conservatives is chastising the Bush administration for refusing to free 17 Turkic Muslims being held without charges at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, saying their continued dete...
 
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Oh now they find their souls. After years and years of the horrors people suddenly find their moral compass. Suddenly the constitution is more that just a thing to wipe your a$$ with. Where the f u c k were you people four years ago!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 11/20/2008
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hear, hear Shieldmaiden!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 11/20/2008
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The "Worst of the Worst" . . . with well . . . some "really bad guys" . . .

and some could be "evil do_ers" and "evil thinkers" also..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 11/20/2008

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We should keep Gitmo open for people like Bill Kristol and Carl Rove.
Wonder what they might confess to if legally and lawfully interrogated through water-boarding?
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 11/20/2008

Now, THAT'S change we can believe in! Don't forget Bush and Cheney though!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 11/20/2008

IMO they should release all of them into the states that think they are the victims. Let them move into taxpayer funded housing in a nice CA or MA neighborhood. We'll see if they are the nice guys they all believe they are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 11/20/2008
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If they're so nasty presumably they've done something we can put them on trial for? Something maybe a little more specific than just being scary brown Muslims?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 11/20/2008

What US law would we charge them with?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 11/20/2008

Unfortunately, I don't have a good answer for this kind of conscience-free idiocy.
All I can say is that we owe these people. We owe them and the hundreds more kept in the immoral/unethical/illegal torture hole which is Guantanamo, and the thousands of others kept in the other US directed torture prisons around the world. I guess it takes just a little bit more humanity and decency to consider what it must be like to be kept in such a situation with no real opportunity to challenge one's torture/imprisonment at the hands of the self-righteous,.....and even when they know they have no real right to keep you, and can't send you back to you were kidnapped from...they still keep you in a hole. Sure makes me proud to be an American this very instant.....how about you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 11/20/2008

Here's the issue we run into:

Their countries won't let us dump them there
They can't be put in prison here
They aren't members of an Army

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 11/20/2008

Queen,
They are "no longer considered enemy combatants". In other words, they should never have been arrested and imprisoned. If they arrest you and put you in prison for 7 years without any hearing, are you a victim? Are you one of those libertarians who believes in guilt by association? Are you a libertarian who believes in indefinite imprisonment? Are you a libertarian that believes that Americans can do anything they want to foreigners, abuse them, torture them, secretly move them around the world?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 11/21/2008
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For those who may want to add their voice, there are some online petitions you can add your name to.

Petition addressed to President George W. Bush:

Amnesty International
http://www.amnesty.org.uk/petitions2.asp

ACLU
https://secure.aclu.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=close_guantanamo

Avaaz.org " a global civic advocacy group
http://www.avaaz.org/en/close_guantanamo/

Petition address to President-Elect Obama:

Brave New Foundation
http://www.closegitmo.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 11/20/2008

Closing Gitmo will give Obama a lot of credit from the world community and American liberals and independents allowing him to have a free ride for awhile to get bipartisan dometic items done along with shifting forces to Afghanistan

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 11/20/2008

Ok, if you want to pardon people, how about these people?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 11/20/2008

I think Gitmo should be emptied on Jan 20th. And I think we should refill it with Bush Cheney and all their cronies. Bachmann is right. We need investigations and send the guilty to Gitmo. We should have tribunals for this. And they should be held indefinitely without real charges until they pass on from this earth. Now that would be justice. That would be righteous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 11/20/2008

Justice would be treating Bush and his "cronies" for what they are, and trying them for war crimes. Obama has indicated that he is not likely to prosecute during his first term, saying "I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of the Republicans as a partisan witch hunt, because I think we've got too many problems to solve." So, for political reasons, Bush is likely going to get off. American presidents are above the law, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 11/20/2008
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Oh what tangle webs we weave, when at first we aspire to deceive. We have got to get our moral standing back in this world. January 20, 2009 can't come soon enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 11/20/2008
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