SAG Seeks Strike Authorization

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| 11/23/08 01:26 AM | AP

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Actor and president of the Screen Actors Guild, Alan Rosenberg, poses for a portrait in this March 17, 2003, file photo taken in Los Angeles. The Screen Actors Guild said Saturday Nov. 22, 2008 that contract talks with Hollywood studios has failed despite the help of a federal mediator and it will now ask its members to authorize a strike. (AP Photo/Ric Francis, File)

LOS ANGELES — The Screen Actors Guild said Saturday it will ask its members to authorize a strike after its first contract talks in four months with Hollywood studios failed despite the help of a federal mediator.

Federal mediator Juan Carlos Gonzalez adjourned the talks between SAG and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers shortly before 1 a.m. after two marathon sessions failed to produce an agreement. No new talks are scheduled.

The SAG, representing more than 120,000 actors in movies, television and other media, said in a statement that it will launch a "full-scale education campaign in support of a strike authorization."

Talks broke down after the studios sought the right to create productions for new media, such as the Internet, using nonunion actors and without paying residuals, said Doug Allen, SAG national executive director and chief negotiator.

Residuals are payments to actors that are made every time a production airs, such as TV reruns. Many SAG members rely on residuals for more than half of their income, Allen said.

"They're asking us to bless a system we believe would be the beginning of the end of residuals, and that's a very scary thought for working actors," he said.

The producers' alliance condemned the SAG decision and said it remains the only major Hollywood guild without a labor deal this year.

"Now, SAG is bizarrely asking its members to bail out the failed negotiating strategy with a strike vote _ at a time of historic economic crisis," a producers' statement said. "The tone-deafness of SAG is stunning."

SAG's national board has already authorized its negotiating committee to call for a strike authorization vote if mediation failed. The vote would take more than a month and require more than 75 percent approval to pass.

SAG wants union coverage for all Internet-only productions regardless of budget and residual payments for Internet productions replayed online, as well as continued actor protections during work stoppages.

But the AMPTP said it was untenable for SAG to demand a better deal than what writers, directors and another actors union accepted earlier in the year, especially now that the economy has worsened.

The producers' group this week said it had reached its sixth labor deal this year, a tentative agreement on a three-year contract with the local branches of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees, Moving Picture Technicians, Artists and Allied Crafts, accounting for 35,000 workers.

The stagehands alliance accepted Internet provisions that were modeled on agreements with other unions, the producers group said.

Actors in prime-time television shows and movies have been working under the terms of a contract that expired June 30, with the hope of avoiding a repeat of the 100-day writers strike which shut down production of dozens of TV shows and cost the Los Angeles area economy an estimated $2.5 billion.

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Okay, lets set the record straight. MIDDLE CLASS WORKING ACTORS who have mortgages to pay and kids to feed, JUST LIKE YOU are the ones affected by this issue. Actors are not being greedy. Producers and studios are trying to prevent actors from being paid a fair wage. Current modes of pay do not apply to things like the Internet, and the Powers That Be are trying to keep it that way. Imagine if your boss came to you and said that he wanted you to do more work for less pay. Like almost no pay. You'd be frustrated too, right? I am a working actress, and I happen to be strongly against the idea of a strike, but please don't blame the actors. It is the AMPTP that is to blame.
Please take a moment, and consider that we are just like you. We work hard every day trying to make ends meet and build a good life. The more corporations weaken labor unions, the more we will ALL suffer. Please support your fellow workers. Even though we are in a different business than you, we are hard working Americans just the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 AM on 12/18/2008

The AMPTP is feeling their oats after their success against the WGA, and rightfully so. As long as they have reality shows and game shows, they are very well-positioned against those who work on scripted shows. In the end, it all comes down to simple numbers: Scripted shows are, at best, performing only as well as reality/game shows. At worst, they're not performing as well. Think of the big show of today that EVERYONE talks about when they are on: Dancing with the Stars, American Idol, Survivor, The Hills, So You Think You Can Dance, Amazing Race, etc. Desperate Housewives, Ugly Betty, Grey's Anatomy, and CSI might make it in there, only occasionally. As long as scripted shows have consistently lack-luster numbers in terms of viewership, those who work on those shows are in are not in a very good position to bargain. The answer for Hollywood is simple: CREATE BETTER SHOWS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO WATCH, AND YOU WILL BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO GET WHAT YOU WANT!!! It's not rocket-science.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 11/26/2008

There is never a good time to SRIKE. There is always a good time to demand fair compensation for your work. Look what happened to the people in this country, who’s
wages never increased. It is an economical disaster. 75% of actors are making less than
$ 3700 a year. Do you think they have houses and mortgages to pay from their acting jobs?
I don’t think so. On the other hand, the STUDIOS just spent on “ANGELS and DEMONS” more than $ 175 millions. Do you know how many films you can make with that money? $40 millions went to TOM HANKS. You know how many actors could be paid with that money? The whole system has to be updated as the work character and circumstances are changing as well.
GO TO STRIKE FOR WHAT IS RIGHT SAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 11/24/2008

If 75% of actors make less than $3,700 a year it would lead one to believe that is because they work so few days a year; therefore, what is needed to raise incomes is more work for actors at all levels. A strike does not make more work, it makes less - not just for actors but for everyone involved in the whole production process as many projects fall by the wayside or are moved to other locales. Plus, if your income is $3,700 this year and next year because of a strike you work 1/4 fewer days, then you would earn $925 less, so whatever gains you make you first have to earn back that $925 before you've made an additional penny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 11/29/2008

good strike........hopefully one more union dead

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 11/23/2008
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WHAT THAT MEANS is that only the Federal and State labor LAWS will protect you in Made-for-New-Media. You will be working for State minimum wage, your overtime will be based on State labor laws.
And that's it.

DGA, AFTRA, and IATSE members: Why aren't you pissed? Your contract for New Media looks JUST LIKE THIS. (I can't lump WGA members in here becasue thye KNOW how crappy their deal is. They did NOT want to take it)

The future for the content creators (if they want to work for these Media Corporations) is financially desolate.
Think about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 11/23/2008
- SDRR I'm a Fan of SDRR permalink

The AMPTP has offered the following to SAG:
1. Give up protections you have had for a while in "Old Media", some for the past few decades (consent to show your image outside of the original project, Force Majeure, scheduled meal breaks, etc)
2. Agree to the DGA deal wherein almost ALL your union protections will be eliminated.

I just don't know why anyone would pay union dues to a union that had agreed to the above.

I do not believe that the DGA, AFTRA, IASTE (or at the very least, their members) understand how their financial future has just been eliminated. EVERY piece of entertainment will come primarily through the Internet very, very soon. Therefore, almost ALL projects will be Made-for-New-Media projects.
Guess what the proposed basic union minimum rate is for these projects? THERE ISN"T ONE.
Guess what the proposed basic union overtime protections are for these projects? THERE AREN"T ANY.
Guess what the proposed basic union forced call protections are for these projects? THERE AREN"T ANY.
Guess what the proposed basic union residual structure is for these projects? NONE.
Guess what the proposed basic union protections are for MINORS for these projects? THERE AREN'T ANY.
The list goes on.
Basically the AMPTP proposal strips actors of virtually ALL there basic working condition protections with the exception of Pension & Health contributions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 11/23/2008
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Thank you for injecting some facts into the mix. It boils down to the studio's long term goal to bust the unions. The economy is the excuse for everyone to vilify the actors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 11/23/2008

Agree with Holden Litgo (and agree with his other comments as well, below this article)
--Why should actors accept not being paid, because someone else already had a strike prior?
--Isn't that what striking is about, and isn't that American?
--The studios DO know how they will suffer if actors strike, so they are trying to bully them, and manipulate them, into not striking.
--But still not pay them. All the studios have heavily invested in the internet for their future, they are business people, and they invested COUNTING on that the actors won't get paid, it appears.
--Why is everyone so sure that the strike will last a long time. Who said so?
--The studios are first and foremost: businessmen. They aren't going to let their business go to ruin, over this. Nor this town.
--Too much fear. The studios know this, and are manipulating that, through the press and their website.
--It's such an ugly embarrassment, this whole thing. I think it makes Americans look like ugly and greedy; and without any respect for the artists in this...the actors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 AM on 11/24/2008

As the fiancée of a man who works on one of these VERY popular shows, and with our Baby due December 10th this situation strikes home. The strike not only affects the grossly overpaid actors but ALL crew members, grips, catering, wardrobe, set dressers, electricians... EVERY ONE. Not to mention the fact that viewers will stop watching and ratings will drop and who knows what will happen to these shows at that point in time. This is our families livelihood and I hope they realize that these times of economic dire straits is the WRONG time to strike.... if they should even strike at all. It just makes them look very greedy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 11/23/2008
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You ought to look at the following short video produced in Cologne, Germany by TV Star Andreas Stenschke. It points to what is at stake for writers, actors and directors regarding the potential loss of income when reruns of TV shows and movies go to the Internet rather than on cable and broadcast TV, where they currently show. It is particularly relevant as the Writers Guild is now in a battle with the AMPTP over their reneging of the Internet residual formula agreed to at the end of the strike in February. Link to the video is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PPZV3dTzbg

The Europeans' (and other international artists) situation is absurd and the AMPTP producers and networks would like nothing more than to remake that as their modus operandi on our shores as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 11/23/2008

Mr. Russnow - Is it true that the WGA is being sued for collecting but not paying out fees collected for foreign TV runs?

Also, there is certainly enormous long range profit to be made on the Internet but the amount of profit is up in the air (hulu makes money, I'm not so sure about other ventures) would it not be possible considering the economic crisis for SAG to publicly state that in return for an increase in DVD rates (boy this is turning into an ros) and a promise to good faith renegotiations of new media next contract it would be willing to sign for three years? I understand many SAG members feel the AMPTP isn"t trustworthy but imagine the PR the union gains in the present for being community minded and the PR hammer it has in the future if this is its publicly stated and agreed to stance.

You are much more informed on these matters than I. I'm not trying to bash the WGA/SAG just think people on both sides who are smart enough to create product and put together multi-million dollar projects should be able to figure this out without subjecting the LA/CA economies to another strike. SAG members must act in their own self-interest but many folks may go under for the last time if another strike occurs. If SAG is seen as being unsympathetic to the community's well being, the community may not be supportive of SAG's well being.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 11/29/2008

Is it possible that this is SAG's way of saving face? Leadership is taking a "tough stand" knowing full well the producers won't agree. They send it to membership for the authorization vote. Leadership can't get a 75% approval vote. They go back to sign the same deal they were already offered but can say, "At least we tried. It was the economy that prevented us from following through."

Just a thought. Now get back to work so I don't lose my home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 11/23/2008

Me to SAG: Drop dead.

WGA strike almost killed my business last year, I nearly lost my house, and my resentment is not in check. So why not do it again?! Over $2B taken out of LA's economy for an average $300/yr benefit to the average member. Brilliant!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 11/23/2008
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The writer's went on strike, and as a result, we just stopped watching TV. By the time they came back, we had forgotten plot lines and lost interest in our shows. Now, I guess, they'll do the same thing with movies. Well done!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 11/23/2008

Lousy timing, and not very interesting given that whole families are being tossed out on the streets.

Sadly, this field is larded with the same mentality that has pervaded Wall Street- greed and a real disregard and disconnection to the idea of community.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 AM on 11/23/2008
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The WGA, DGA, and AFTRA have all come to an agreement with the studios, and so should SAG.

AFTRA split with SAG earlier in the year partly because of "militant" tactics by SAG, and now it seems that SAG has reared its militant head again.

How 'bout this, SAG? Have actors quit SAG and join AFTRA. Use AFTRA actors instead of SAG actors. You won't be able to yell "scab", because it isn't scab labour. It's union labour. Something to think about, eh?

Rosenberg has said that the vote is only to "authorise" a strike, not an actual strike, so it could be just a hardball tactic. Regardless, the timing is moronic.

SAG's paddling up a waterfall here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 11/23/2008
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Please stop blaming the actors. Their leadership are the ones who should be villified for suggesting a strike during and economic crisis. They are the worst kind of opportunists; the kind who use the misery of many to push their agenda. For shame!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 11/22/2008
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The MEMBERSHIP are the one's who VOTE on it... &, it being that the VAST majority of it's members are currently working as WAITERS, there's NO stake in calling for a strike... the waiters will STILL be working.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 11/22/2008

It would be nice that as an actor we did not have to have another job. We could just be actors. That would be heaven to us.
Part of what we are fighting for is to receive a wage that allows us to act only!! By the way Background, Stand-ins, Photo doubles, Puppeteers, all fall under the SAG actor’s category. (Not $1000.00 a day jobs!!!)
You too can get another job while we strike to better our future.(Then maybe you will know why we want just compensation for our work so badly.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 11/24/2008
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The issue is residuals for new media. The producers have said no to residuals for new media. It doesn't really matter what they offer beyond that if they say no to that because that's what SAG is asking for. What members of other unions in the industry don't realize is that a portion of WGA and SAG residual payments are funneled into their pension and health accounts to help keep them solvent. In other words, if one union wins, we all win. If you're not a member of one of the entertainment industry unions, sorry, but your opinion doesn't really matter. If you are, please become informed before you make irrational judgments against your union brothers and sisters. We're all in this together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 11/22/2008

You are narrow minded. Not everyone who works in the entertainment industry is a union member. Yet everyone who works in, or is tied to it will be affected. If I am affected, then my opinion does matter. And I will continue to be vocal about it. Think for a moment about someone other than yourself. Think about the $8/hour security guy working the overnight shift making sure nothing gets stolen from the set. Think about the $10/hour catering assistant feeding your stomach. Think about the rental houses who provide cameras, lighting, props, wardrobe etc. Think about the accountant who cuts your paycheck. Think about the domino affect a strike will have on an already calamitous and precarious financial situation. And before you jump down my throat, know that I proudly support unions and the positive affects they have in our world. However, now is simply not the time to strike. We were already hurt my the WGA strike. We have been hammered by global economic collapse. We need to know that we can keep working or we won't be feeding our children or paying our rents/mortgages. Agree to terms now and revisit things when you know what you are fighting for (residuals on a new/future media who's profits are yet unknown) and when the economy has begun to heal.

Please, VOTE NO TO THE STRIKE AUTHORIZATION. We all need to work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 11/23/2008
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You're right, I was narrow minded. I momentarily forgot the big picture. For a moment, in my zeal, I forgot about those who were and would be devastated by a strike. I did, for a moment, only think of solidarity with my own union members. And for that I apologize to you and the make-up artists, hair stylists, caterers, dry cleaners, production assistants, security guards, secretaries, agents and assistants and everyone else and their families who would be and have been hurt by a work stoppage. But...

You're wrong in saying we don't know what we're fighting for. The studio's profits from new media are a matter of record. The DVD sales they were unsure of years ago and promised they would revisit and never did are a matter of record. They refuse to acknowledge the contribution of the creative artists and if we keep rolling over they will keep insisting profits are "yet unknown" and those who rightly fear for their livelihoods will continue to believe them and make the actors, writers and directors scapegoats for asking to be fairly compensated for their work - regardless of the economy. There is no good time for a strike. People blame SAG and the "bad timing" for this vote but is there ever a good time to stand up for what you know is right when other people disagree? Standing up against oppression are the principles this country - and its workforce and any movement that ever meant anything - were

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 11/23/2008
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