Liberals To Keep Pressure On Obama For Results

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BEN FELLER | November 30, 2008 09:22 AM EST | AP

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Seeking early support from organized labor, Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., addresses the Building and Construction Trades Legislative Conference meeting at the Washington Hilton Hotel in Washington, in this file photo from Wednesday, April 20, 2005. The president-elect drew plenty of support from moderates, but the liberal side of the Democratic Party followed him most resoundingly: labor unions, influential Internet blogs and legions of grassroots volunteers. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, File)

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama promises to steer the nation straight again. He better be ready for a strong force pulling left.

The president-elect drew plenty of support from moderates, but the liberal side of the Democratic Party followed him most resoundingly: labor unions, influential Internet blogs and legions of grassroots volunteers. He won almost 90 percent of the liberal vote, more than the previous two Democratic presidential nominees, John Kerry or Al Gore.

Now the same millions of left-leaning voters who worked relentlessly to get Obama elected want results. That means ending the war in Iraq, ushering in universal health care, halting harsh interrogation tactics against suspected terrorists, making it easier to form unions and aggressively tackling global warming.

"We'll see," said Eli Pariser, executive director of the liberal powerhouse Moveon.org, about what Obama will deliver. "If they turn out to be all disappointments, we'll have a good three years to storm the gates at the White House."

Already, the liberal blogosphere is showing its influence.

John Brennan, Obama's top pick to head the CIA, suddenly withdrew his name from consideration under pressure this past week. His potential appointment had raised a firestorm among liberal blogs that associate him with the Bush administration's interrogation, detention and rendition policies. Within hours, blogs that raised concerns about Brennan's career claimed victory about their successful exercise in free speech.

The debt is starting to come due on Obama's promise of "change we can believe in." Except he meant "we" in a broader sense.

He promised to lead with a bipartisan spirit, the kind that could unify a country and allow him to get deals through Congress. From the moment he won, he implored people: "Let us resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship."

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And then he set out to take his own advice.

Obama's courting of Republicans _ for ideas, legislative support, and potential roles in his Cabinet _ is drawing cautious attention from the liberal base of his Democratic Party. The concern, to the degree that it exists this soon, is that Obama's emphasis on governing from the center may undermine the left.

He still pledges to wind down the war in Iraq, but everything comes second to fixing the staggering economy right now. He has stood up in defense for Sen. Joe Lieberman, a virtual Democratic outcast these days, and sought help from his Republican presidential foe, Sen. John McCain.

Obama is building a government with several Clinton administration faces, a move that has underwhelmed some liberal voices who are eager for a more dramatic sense of change.

In one posting that seemed to echo in the Internet community, liberal blogger Chris Bowers wrote, "I feel incredibly frustrated. ... Isn't there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration? Why isn't there a single member of Obama's Cabinet who will be advising him from the left?"

Christopher Hayes, the Washington-based editor of The Nation, offered his own lament about a lack of progressive candidates for prominent leadership spots. He said the left has been right about Iraq, financial deregulation and global warming, and yet "no one who comes from the part of American political and intellectual life that has given birth to all of these ideas is anywhere to be found within miles of the Obama Cabinet so far."

Obama pushed back a bit this past week, saying his advisers will blend "experience with fresh thinking."

Of course, he is not done picking his Cabinet, let alone occupying the Oval Office yet. Any rumblings of discontent at this point show that expectations for Obama are enormous within his party. Labor unions and liberal groups spent big money and knocked on countless doors to help get Obama elected.

The undercurrent of concern is not that Obama, granted the title of most liberal senator in one prominent ranking, will suddenly abandon the people who helped elect him or change course on core causes. Rather, it is that liberal side of his party may have to wait longer for victories, and accept smaller ones.

That is the reality of governance right now.

"I think he's moving center-left, rather than left-center. It's fair to call him pragmatic," said Paul Light, a public policy professor and presidential historian at New York University. "I think labor is going to get a lot from him. I think his liberal supporters are going to get a lot from him. But they're going to be disappointed if they want all liberal all the time."

The economy is in such remarkably dreadful shape that Obama may get a pass on other matters while he tries to fix that one.

An early test will be how Obama's team works with congressional leaders and appropriations committee chairmen on his first priority, a massive bill to stimulate the economy. If Democrats go too far left on it, they may lose some conservative members of their own caucus and give Obama some fits.

The left could get early legislative victories on expanded health care for children from poor families, and looser restrictions on federally funded embryonic stem cell research. Obama's stimulus plan is bound to include spending and jobs supported by labor.

As for the anxious anti-war crowd, which helped propel Obama's campaign in its early days, Obama adviser David Axelrod said the new president will not renege on winding down the conflict in Iraq.

Obama says the challenges are simply too huge for the politics of labels; Democrats and Republicans must work together. Pragmatism rules.

"I think what the American people want more than anything is just common sense, smart government," he said. "They don't want ideology."

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama promises to steer the nation straight again. He better be ready for a strong force pulling left. The president-elect drew plenty of support from moderates, but the lib...
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Here I thought GWB was president and O.bama was just a citizen with no power until Jan. 20th silly me. Let's give credit where credit is due, President-elect O.bama and both Davids. It was President-elect O.bama's message, his inspiration and their plan and strategy that moved those of us who knocked on doors, phone banked, talked to family, friends, neighbors and co-workers, to write comments on blogs or letters to editors, donated, and voted. There was no club/group made up of only liberals, or dems inclusively that became foot soldiers, he touched the hearts and minds of many from different ideologies and backgrounds. IMO, it seemed as if MSM grouped everyone as liberals if they supported President-elect O.bama, and primarily sought out known sources of liberal ideologies to report on as part of their dialogue that President-elect O.bama is so liberal as if being liberal is taboo. President-elect O.bama owes no one, except all the citizens of the USA to do a job that serves us based on the realities at hand with those He deems capable of fulfilling His plans and policies for the betterment of this country. Holding onto an attitude of "you owe me" is no different than those who lobby with big bucks or donate. This attitude has to change in all forms, and whatever support is given is from the heart for the sake of country not ideology, or cause.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 12/01/2008

he is liberal..........and liberal is bad........obstruction is the way

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 12/01/2008

"Liberals to keep pressure on Obama for results"

See now that sounds like the Liberal I know and love and is proud to be a part of.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 12/01/2008

It seems to be a fairly simple calculation: govern successfully from the middle, and Obama will win re-election. Give in to the fringe elements of his party, and he will lose key supporters a Democrat needs to win.
A Republican president can be more liberal (pun intended) with his allegiance to the extremes of his party, because this remains a center-right nation, despite any given election result. A Democrat must govern with moderation (see: Clinton, Bill) to be successful.
Lest we forget, President Clinton's low-water mark popularly was his first year and a half, when he chose to tackle of gays in the military, and arguably his greatest achievement was welfare reform with a Republican Congress. His down-the-middle triangulation often earned him a label as the "most Republican Democrat." This drove his most liberal supporters bananas, yet the Left generally considers his two-term presidency a success. It's also worth recalling that, though Bush is despised as an arch-conservative, the Right is displeased also with him: government spending and the lack of Constitutional amendments banning abortion, flag-burning or gay marriage are examples of "abandoning the right." But where are they going to go? And the same can be asked of liberals and their equally unrealistic goals.
If he wants to be one of the greats, as all incoming presidents surely do, Obama is wise to govern from the middle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 12/01/2008

you're joking right.........one of the greats?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 12/01/2008

When the Clinton era is quantified by nearly all objective criteria (save for personal a personal indiscretion which ought to be of little concern to liberals in gauging public duty), Clinton's was the most progressive and productive administration since FDR. He successfully solidified the domestic agenda of LBJ and environmental legacy of the Nixon era against the unremitting assaults of the Reaganites with sufficient though somewhat weakened institutional strength to survive the dedicated emasculation attempts by the NeoCons, He did so while balancing the budget and reducing the national debt by nearly a trillion bucks.

Not a bad legacy 45245!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 12/01/2008

It's not clear what you take exception to, 45245. That Obama wants to be one of the greats? If you thought I was implying that Clinton was one of the greats, I did not. I do think most liberals consider his presidency a success, as articulateled by Transcendentobserver. Though I don't agree with all of his point when put in context, Bill Clinton does represent the only two-term Democratic presidency since FDR. He achieved this by governing towards the center. Obama will succeed (in an effort to be a top tier president) by doing the same.
My thanks to Transcendentobserver for taking on the vagueness ot 45245, and I await word on what 45245 took exception to in my earlier remarks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 12/01/2008
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Just like FDR. Just like Lincoln.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 12/01/2008

Congress is where the pressure needs to be put. Vote the bahstuds OUT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 12/01/2008
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Let's see...can I pay my mortgage? No. Can I put gas in my car? No. Do I have any money this month to put in my kid's college fund? No. Can I afford glasses for one kid and braces for another? No, I'll have to choose between them. Will I still have a job on Monday? I don't know.

Let's keep our eye on the ball, people. Many of the issues that Obama ran on will have to be put aside -- VERY briefly-- to help insure 75 million Americans won't be fired or thrown out fo their homes. Did you know that food banks all across the country are empty? Did you know the amount of people on federal food programs TRIPLED this year????

I care about Iraq and gay rights and UNIVERAL HEALTH CARE as much as anyone. But let's try to do one thing at a time. And fer Chrissakes, let the man be SWORN IN before we start screaming like a bunch of spoiled sorority chicks, OK?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 12/01/2008
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Well said, thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 12/01/2008

as to your money issues, get a job..........so let's cancel welfare........and it won't triple again

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 12/01/2008
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F%$# both of you. Wow, what sh&*^heads. I see you have a heart the size of a rat sperm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 12/01/2008
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Easy to say when you're sitting in Mommy's basement and not worrying about the bills.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 12/01/2008
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In case you hadn't noticed, getting a job is just a WEE bit harder to do now, especially a job that pays well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 12/01/2008
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Obama and his team better be prepared to do something for the gay community that supported him who now feel totally shafted by Prop 8 and the slew of anti-gay rights measures that passed throughout the nation. All the Democratic presidential candidates heavily campaigned for gay dollars and got them on the promise of DOMA repeal, the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" and marriage equality. Obama did not campaign against Prop 8 out of fear that this would become a losing campaign issue and now after actively helping to elect a Democratic majority in the New York State Senate, there is a movement to not push for a vote on Gay Marriage because it might hurt the second-term election of Governor Patterson. And in New Jersey where gay marriage is posed to easily pass, Corzine is backing off on a promise to bring it to a vote claiming fixing the economy is more important. The Democratic Party needs to understand that it will disenfranchise a powerful and well-heeled voting block, if it does not begin to serve the gay community.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 12/01/2008
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You guys. ..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 12/01/2008
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Yeah lets repeat the mistake of Bill Clinton in his first few months in office. Obama has greater priorities on his plate right now, how about being patient

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 12/01/2008

Sorry, but I agree with wltdnfaded above. I am a supporter of gay rights (human rights in general and most importantly), but a key word in your comment *community* points to why I can't fully get behind your issue right now. We are in a very serious economic downturn. The nation is facing economic devastation. Millions of people will suffer -- gay and non-gay -- if the Obama administration doesn't fix this economic mess. Families and individuals are already experiencing serious hardship.

Communities build nations and all communities count, but for a community to be powerful, it must also be able to align itself with larger goals and issues without pre-conditions. Let's focus on what affects the many the most . . . for now.

As someone who is not gay (or cares about the institution of marriage), I recognize it is easy to have my point of view. I recognize that my comment sounds (and even feels) dismissive. But, I am suggesting as humbly as I can a focus on priorities and the greatest good . . . for now.

Rather than making demands and elevating personal expectations, I have chosen to prepare myself psychologically for the pain and disappointment to come. Economically, I am already experiencing hardship and have been for months, but philosophically I believe that pragmatism, realism and idealism in equal doses is how things get done. That is how progress is made . . . one painful and much needed step at a time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 12/01/2008
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Thank you, Gwen. And please believe me when I say that I wish nothing but the best for you and your family, and that we all get through this economic crisis.

That being said, to the sh$#$heads who decided to leave snarky insensitve comments above: No, I am not on welfare. Yes, I own my own business-- do you? I doubt it.

The comments I made didn't pertain to me. I was speaking for millions of Americans who are making middle-class money and living in like they are in poverty. I'm speaking for my sister in law and her family who have been unemployed for months and have a 4 year old to feed and clothe. I was talking about my father who lost thousands of dollars in the stock market.

The people I mentioned who are using food stamps? They are your neighbors, my friends. People in your churches. People you work with. You may not know that, because most people on food stamps don't go around telling everyone. But it's ahappening all over. To middle class people. To your friends.

Grow a soul.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 12/01/2008
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Liberals most keep the pressure on Obama because the Republican party is definitly going to keep the pressure on him. We must push back against what will be a very strong opposition. They may not be strong right now but they will do what they can to make sure that his first term isn't a success.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 12/01/2008
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I wish they would have pushed this way with Bush!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 12/01/2008
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I second, third and fourth that sentiment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 12/01/2008

Uh, Bush didn't listen to anyone, including his base. It is the Republican base that has been asleep at the wheel. They are the ones who should have been speaking out against Bush and his irresponsible behavior that led the country into one mess after another.

Republicans are lazy sheep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 12/01/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 12/01/2008

Obama is setting the structure and direction that his administration will take for the next four years with these appointments. If the pressure is not put on now, it will do no good later. I am very disappointed with most of the picks for the cabinet so far. That Brennan was even considered for one second scares the hell out of me. That this looking like a third Clinton term is not good as many of the problems that the country faces had their seeds planted during Clinton's time in office. We were promised real change not a return to the same ole, same ole of the Clinton years.

I truly hope that from this point forward that there will be real progressive voices added in substantial positions. Though with Podesta and the other Clintonistas in charge I doubt it will happen. I hope I am proved wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 12/01/2008
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That's one possibility. Another is that he's going to give rather progressive marching orders to this relatively moderate cabinet. Some of his advisor picks - people who aren't required to obtain Senate confirmation - are more progressive than the actual cabinet picks.

We all thought in early '01 that Bush II showed deep wisdom picking Colin Powell as Secretary of State, but Bush's cabinet was never really the center of policy formulation - except for Rumsfeld after 9/11.

Best to give the incoming president a chance, while continuing to pressure him on health care, union card check, Iraq, so on. But if we get those three and Obama still surges in Afghanistan and gets much more aggressive in his hunt for Bin Laden, we have to remember that's exactly what he said he'd do when we voted for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 12/01/2008

i don't buy all this BS about the liberals, the media once again needs a story, this morning on
"Morning Hoe" they are just attacking Eric Holder, for his involvement of Mark Rich, well to tell the truth
who cares! Mark Helprin is a freaking neo-con in disguise, Pat Buchanan is a racist, bigot, just what we don't need is another conservatives view on how Obama should govern.
This country is such a big mess that I want to see people with experience to help us out of this ditch that
the Bushies put us in!
Obama hasn't even taken the oath of office and they are already criticizing him over S**T!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 AM on 12/01/2008
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I think Joe is trying his best to comfort himself that this is still a centre-right country. He repeated that mantra five times in a hour. As Mark, I swear I heard him call Obama a right-wing President. REALLY???? You cannot make that stuff up anymore, it writes itself

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 12/01/2008

Pressure on one who can and will, while no pressure who couldn't and wouldn't!

Applying pressure to Obama, when NONE was applied to the dummy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 AM on 12/01/2008
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Damn, I thought my 2 year old was a spoiled brat with wanting his toys right now.

Grow up people.

There is a country to govern and it doesn't revolved around you.

Everything that was promised will happen BUT YOU MUST HAVE "BUY-IN" FROM ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS AND PEOPLE WHO CAN KILL err FILABUSTER YOUR DREAM.

Obama's looking like a genius and you are acting like a 2 year old.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 AM on 12/01/2008

I'm a liberal, and I think it's a bit stupid to "put pressure" on the President-Elect until he's, you know, INAUGURATED.

If anyone wants to put pressure anywhere, it should be on those sour-grapes morons who are still in the White House trying to wreck the country in the time they have left.

Before worrying about what Obama will do, go read "Dreams from my Father."

Obama has the rare gift of being able to learn from other people's mistakes. This country may see something absolutely unprecedented when he takes office.

It must be a slow news period.... the press is trying to create more crises.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 12/01/2008
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That's what I was thinking..... the poor guy hasn't even rented the furniture truck yet!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 12/01/2008
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The energy, the momentum, of this election needs to be preserved and continue forward to press for the change we were promised.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 12/01/2008
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"Not now, it is too early for that."

"Not now, we have to win the midterms."

"Not now, we don't have the numbers."

"Not now, we don't have enough time."

"Not now, it wouldn't be practical."

"Not now, the Republicans will use it against us."

"Not now, it would be hurting the party."

"Not now, we have an election to win."

"Not now, he hasn't even taken office yet."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 12/01/2008
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The hard core left wingers like me supported Kucinich.

I supported Obama with money and volunteer time because Palin / McCain was too scary.

Anyone paying attention knew O was pretty centrist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 AM on 12/01/2008
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It wasn't a matter of being hard core anything. Kucinich is admirable and intelligent, but will never get elected president for a myriad of reasons. Intelligence trumps ideology when the bottom line is winning elections and keeping republicans out of power. I'm a liberal too, but politicaly, I'm a democrat first. Those who wish to find division in the party can continue to do so by saying who is more hardcore than who, but we have to prevent republican legislation if We The People, our country and our constitution are to survive.

I'll leave the nit-picking for those who lost sight of the real objective. I have children and grandchildren, and their futures are at stake. If we lose that, nothing else will matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 12/01/2008
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Kucinich embodies the core values of the liberals in this country better than anyone. In fact, in a "blind test" survey based on policies and positions alone at www.dehp.net Kucinich was the FAVORITE far and away over the other prospective Democratic nominees during the primary season.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 AM on 12/01/2008
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Kucinich is my guy.

However, at this point, I will settle for competent.
Heck, I will settle for a traditional conservative who is competent - if there is such a thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 AM on 12/01/2008
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Dennis was the man. Sean Penn had it right. A few of us did. You see how corporate America feels about truth to power. Obama started out like gangbusters, but they finally got to him. He's owned now. They realized they weren't going to be able to do that with Dennis (or Ron Paul for that matter), so they blacklisted him. The crap this country tries to lie about is astounding. Georgia started sh#t with Russia. Hugo Chavez is loved by everyone except the rich. We went to War in Iraq on a LIE. Don't hold your breath for corporate America to inform you of that, though. We haven't had a real President since Carter. And you see how he was jacked up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 12/01/2008

Thank you, Yermammy!!!! So right on! Obama has surrounded himself with all those for whom I voted against. I also gave time, money, support to Obama. But where in the hell are the appointments that will carry out all the promises he made to us? With exception of Richardson...who supported him in a crucial time....I see no one - yet.
Come Barack.....give us what you promised or 2012 will be a completely different story.
And how the Democrats treated President Jimmy Carter is the biggest disgrace of all. A good and honest man who puts principles above popularity..no matter what the cost to him. Thank you, President Carter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 12/01/2008
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You're damned skippy we're going to keep the pressure on. Us, the Liberal base got Barack through the primaries. NO ONE ELSE. The rest of you hangers on finally got some sense in your friggin' head and voted like good little sheep. Now, we're going for Bush to be impeached. There's a TV ad running right now in Cali and we're going to make sure it goes national! YES WE CAN!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 12/01/2008

This is why I hope BO stays center, angers his base which is easily angered, and loses them. Can't win without your base. Then repubs will have an actual conservative in four years and win the WH.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 12/01/2008

Bull.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 12/01/2008
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I don't see any smart repubs on the horizon.... The hopes are being pinned on fear, smear and q u e e r, biz as usual for the wrong-wing. Far as I can gather, the smart repub voters this time round voted for O... Course you'll always have a core of dopey ones that'll vote for the standard repub values of war, bigotry and religious repression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 AM on 12/01/2008
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Dream on silly. Dream on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 12/01/2008
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GOPers don't need "an actual conservative"

GOPers have their l ies and f ear mon ge ring.
It is what they do best.

And what they do best sure is not governing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 12/01/2008
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Fun. Fun. Fun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 12/01/2008
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Great news! Had not heard that!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 12/01/2008
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It's on Democratic Underground right now (watch the commercial!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 12/01/2008

Nobody is going to be impeached. NO YOU CANT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 12/01/2008
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Don't you have some "clinging" to do? Nyea nyea......nyea nyea nyea! LOL :) It's GOOD to be KING! We going after you're little smirking monkey, boy-o, and all you can do is WATCH. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 AM on 12/01/2008

You couldn't win him the election though. We're kind of all in this together you know, not just you or even me. I want a president who thinks about the well being of the people as a whole before anything else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 AM on 12/01/2008
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As a matter of fact, as the article points out above and as the raw data prove, we DID get him elected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 AM on 12/01/2008

I wish Liberals and Conservatives would finally realize that our best economic times have all happened during our transition between ideals. For instance when FDR took over after Hoover, Reagan after Carter, Clinton after Bush. Our worst economies happen when one ideal has had power and influence for far too long.

History seems to trying to tell us that the answer is somewhere in the middle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 12/01/2008
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Our best TIMES--in general--have been during periods of massive liberal movements.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 12/01/2008

No no no no no.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 12/01/2008
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Affirmative!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 12/01/2008

bo is too liberal though

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 12/01/2008
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Too liberal for who? The 64 million people who voted for him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 12/01/2008

Yes, but that doesn't mean he will govern this way, the country won't let him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 12/01/2008
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