Hawaii to be 1st state with electric car stations

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AUDREY McAVOY | December 3, 2008 09:34 AM EST | AP

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HONOLULU — Hawaii has unveiled plans to be first in the nation to roll out electric car stations statewide _ a move the governor hailed as a major step toward weaning the islands off oil.

Hawaii imports foreign oil for almost 90 percent of its energy needs. One-third of that oil is used to power cars and buses on island streets.

Gov. Linda Lingle said Tuesday the program would help Hawaii meet its goal of slashing fossil fuel use 70 percent by 2030.

"This is the preferred future," Lingle said at a press conference. "Today is a part of the execution of our energy independence, and our getting off the addiction to oil."

Better Place, a Palo Alto, Calif.-based company, will build the car recharging stations and provide recharged batteries for electric cars.

The company will purchase renewable energy _ such as wind power _ from Hawaiian Electric Co., the state's largest utility.

Better Place plans to have the stations open for the mass market by 2011. It expects to build between 50,000 to 100,000 charge spots _ in parking lots, downtown streets, and neighborhoods _ across the state by early 2012.

Other communities, like the San Francisco Bay area, have announced plans to host Better Place recharging stations. But Hawaii aims to be the first to have the stations statewide. Better Place also has deals to create electric vehicle infrastructures in Israel, Denmark and Australia.

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Shai Agassi, Better Place's founder and chief executive officer, said the Nissan Motor Co.-Renault SA auto alliance has agreed to make electric cars that would be recharged at the stations.

Better Place is also talking to other automakers, including the U.S. Big Three: Chrysler LLC, Ford Motor Co., and General Motors Corp. Ford is planning to accelerate the roll-out of electric vehicles as part of its restructuring plan, submitted to Congress Tuesday. The first plug-in vehicle will be a Transit Connect small van for commercial use in 2010 and a car the size of the Ford Focus compact the following year.

Ford also said it will accelerate plans for hybrid gas-electric vehicles.

Lingle said other carmakers have an incentive to follow Nissan/Renault because they would want to sell cars in the new markets Better Place is creating.

"Nobody will want to be left on the sidelines once these networks are up," Lingle said.

Agassi said the electric cars will cost the same as gasoline powered vehicles.

Over time, however, they will be cheaper to make because they will use half as many parts as cars with internal combustion engines.

Better Place picked Hawaii for the first statewide rollout in part because the islands are a contained environment, with few vehicles coming in and out, Agassi said. Better Place would need to build a bigger network across several states to serve some mainland markets.

Hawaii also has abundant renewable energy resources, including wind, solar, geothermal and wave power. This is important because Better Place won't use oil, and aims to have a "zero carbon footprint."

For example, Agassi said Better Place plans to recharge its batteries at night with power from Hawaii's wind farms. That power normally goes unused because of Hawaii's low nighttime energy needs.

Agassi sees Hawaii as an ideal place to show off Better Place technology because the state welcomes over five million tourists each year from the U.S. mainland, Japan, Canada and the rest of the world.

"If we can get them into electric cars when they rent, we do two great things," Agassi said. "One, we avoid emissions and, two, we use the opportunity to educate them, to teach them in Hawaii how it needs to be done in the rest of the world."

Lingle said the state doesn't expect to spend any money to facilitate the network. However, she said the state may need to offer tax breaks or other incentives to encourage people to buy electric vehicles when they are first offered.

HONOLULU — Hawaii has unveiled plans to be first in the nation to roll out electric car stations statewide _ a move the governor hailed as a major step toward weaning the islands off oil. Hawai...
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Here in New Hampster many people drive their electric golf carts to the malls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 12/04/2008
- scoochman I'm a Fan of scoochman 2 fans permalink

We already have them here in Portland and the electricity's free.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 12/04/2008
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What substance is being burned to produce this roadside electricity?
Just wondrin'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 12/04/2008
- donbrown I'm a Fan of donbrown 65 fans permalink
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Here they are discussing solar panels on garages as an energy source. There's plenty of sun, that's for sure...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 12/04/2008
- Overtone I'm a Fan of Overtone 19 fans permalink
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Batteries may soon be obsolete. Then new cars and vehicles, of every conceivable variety, are likely to feature all-electric propulsion.

Hans Coler, a German inventor, demonstrated an electronic alternative to batteries in 1926. His work was examined by two teams of university professors. A distinguished scientist found there to be “no fraud, hoax or fault” involved. Coler stated that the magnet strength remained constant.

Space, since the time of Paul Dirac, is believed by eminent scientists to be chock full of energy. Converting some of this energy, seemingly from nowhere, as well as a second new source of energy, is now the subject of new science and technology. The second source is ambient heat and reflects Maxwell's interpretation of thermodynamic laws. Both open a path to powering our planet without the need for fossil fuels. They can replace the need for batteries of all sizes with a power source which maintains constant output and never needs to be recharged.

The ultimate application is the potential to turn parked cars into power plants. Parking lots can be equipped so that power can be sold to the local utility. No physical connection will be necessary, as technology already exists that can wirelessly transmit up to 150 kW to the power grid.

Car owners can be paid. Vehicles may pay for themselves leading to a better, better place.

“Truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” Schopenhauer

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 12/04/2008
- Rebecca I'm a Fan of Rebecca 37 fans permalink
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Progressives make things happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 12/04/2008

It is brilliant that Hawaii should be the first state to go green with EVs, because Hawaii has access to a lot of renewable and sustainable sources for making electricity: sun, wind, wave and geothermal. They should model the electricity production on places like Iceland; a major portion of whose electricity requirements are met by Geothermal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 AM on 12/04/2008
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Geothermal is controversial here because it offends some Native Hawaiians who revere one of their traditional Gods, Pele. Not all Hawaiians feel this way, but a significant and vocal number on the Big Island do.

A company tried to tap geothermal energy in the 1990s and blew it by both being sensitive to those traditions and the unfortunate release of toxic sulphur fumes in a residential area near the geothermal plant.

For the foreseeable future it seems geothermal will not advance here. Several big wind, wave, and solar power solutions are in the works, though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 12/04/2008
- donbrown I'm a Fan of donbrown 65 fans permalink
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I've lived in Hawaii for 21 years and though I love almost everything about it (except the high prices), the legislature runs a close second to Louisiana for the worst in the country...behind on EVERYTHING and ignorant to boot.

We have wind, waves, sun...and yet we import oil for 90% of our energy. The university spends 1.2 million a month to cool classrooms that are always over air-conditioned. Yet when you try to change these things, you get hit with what we call "Polynesian Paralysis". Nothing gets done.

However, there are good people struggling to deal with the moribund bureaucracy. This electric car was introduced by a Northern California company and the progressive are rooting to make it a success.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 12/04/2008
- veracity I'm a Fan of veracity 67 fans permalink

__" Hawaii has unveiled plans to be first in the nation to roll out electric car stations statewide _ a move the governor hailed as a major step toward weaning the islands off oil."__

BRAVO!

Now, just mandate that every srtip-mall shopping center developer include SOLAR PANEL CAR-PORTS for EVERY parking-slot in the mall.... and of course the flat-roofs of the buildings as well. Tie all those thousands of square-feet of solar panels into the state's electric grids, force the utility company to buy back that prime-time power, and allow shoppers to plug in and recharge their cars while shopping, their cars parked nicely out of the sun in those new-fangled SOLAR CARPORTS with parking meters charging each car for its recharge.

There is no reason that electric cars and solar panels couldn't power 30% of America's auto fleet within the next 8 years - it took less time than that for America to meet President Kennedy's astonishing challenge to put man on the moon, an infinitely more complicated and risky challenge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 12/04/2008
- ohmetoo I'm a Fan of ohmetoo 26 fans permalink
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This is interesting. A kwh on the island of Hawaii is 44 cents, 4 times the national average.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 12/03/2008

I visited the wind farm at South Point on the way to the earliest Hawaiian settlement in 1986. Most of the gennys were inoperable and rusting. I was dismayed because I was informed South Point is one of the windiest places on the islands.

Obviously, no one really cared about the wind farm and when friends familiar with the infrastructure of HELCO explained their financial ties to big oil, the missing pieces fell into place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 12/03/2008

They are still inoperable and HELCO still has the market on energy. You are right about ties to big oil, they may own the wind farms, but no one receives any energy from them. It's a shame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 12/04/2008
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I live in Hawaii, and while props to Governor Mister Mom.. ERRRRRRR... Linda Lingle for getting on board with this electric car program, no props to her for cuting health care for the kids of Hawaii.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 12/03/2008
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SANTA MONICA CALIFORNIA HAS HAD THEM FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS. AND COSTCO'S HAVE HAD THEM AS LONG.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 12/03/2008

I can't say I've done exhaustive research, but every time I read about plug-in electrics, there never seems to be a mention of the cost to charge the batteries, or in the case of public charging stations, the method of billing the user. My guess is most of these charging stations will be utilized during the day, when electrical rates are the highest.

How long will most of these take to re-charge? What is to keep others from disconnecting your power source or stealing your power at a public charging station when your vehicle is left unattended?

In the case of home charging, what kind of outlets are required since most homes use 120 volt /15-20 amp circuits, other than in the laundry room and for electric cooking ranges/ovens? Then of course there are those who live in areas without off-street parking or in apartment complexes.

There just seems to be a lot of important questions about how this gets implemented for the public at large that go unasked or unanswered. How is this supposed to work in practice? I'm not a pessimist; I'm a pragmatist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 12/03/2008
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CALIFORNIA IS AT NO COST TO THE CONSUMER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 12/03/2008

Thanks for that info Jerry. I live in SoNV and get to CA fairly often, but hadn't seen any of the charging infrastructure yet. Good to know that they don't have to "pay at the pump" which simplifies the logistics.

Would it be fair to say that the cost *is* paid by the consumer through taxes or other subsidies? As my Econ 101 professor said on the very first day of class many years ago, "There is no such thing as a free lunch." Somebody, somewhere, is paying for the "juice." Of course there are offsetting benefits to society (cleaner air, etc.) I'd be interested in seeing the summary of the cost-benefit analysis. Could it possibly be a break even?

Something else I'd like to see are the option for solar panels on vehicle roofs, window shades to help recharge. Audi had it as an option to run a ventilation system on some models. It may not be of much benefit to those in the PacNW, but in the desert SW, we'd surely benefit from daytime trickle charging.

Alternatively, parking lots with solar panel shades for parking spaces could help recharge, reduce vehicle temps/reduce UV or other environmental damage, and maybe even reduce the heat island effect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 12/03/2008
- Sumocat I'm a Fan of Sumocat 32 fans permalink

This is so long overdue. I remember the first time someone pointed out the smog over Honolulu to me twenty years ago. Even back then, it was apparent something needed to be done, and now the technology exists to take advantage of the abundant energy that flows around the islands every day. Great move forward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 12/03/2008
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There is no "smog" in Honoluu. You must be referring to "Vog", which has nothing to do with car or industrial emmissions. "

Vog" looks almost identical to a bad day in Pasadena ... light brown/yellow haze. But it comes from Kona winds blowing particulate from the volcanoes on the Big Island.

Fortunately. it happens only a few days a year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 AM on 12/04/2008

"Fortunately. it happens only a few days a year."

Except for us big island folks, who get to breath in the vog everyday. Not that I would trade my life here for anywhere else :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 12/04/2008
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Why does it take an economy to collaspe in order to Governor's to do what should have been done decades ago? This change proves governor's are in a panic trying to do the right thing years too late. At least she's trying. Hopefully she doesn't have Republican friends involved in any no bid contracts!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 12/03/2008
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