Obama Birth Certificate Kooks In Court

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First Posted: 12- 9-08 01:58 PM   |   Updated: 01- 9-09 05:12 AM

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Mike Madden chronicles in Salon a day spent watching the people who believe President-Elect Barack Obama isn't a natural born citizen because of gamma rays emanating from internet porn. It's a story to be delighted in and savored. It's the incredibly true tale of "dentist-slash-lawyers" and manic-depression and multiple violations of Godwin's Law and the "press conference" they held at the National Press Club.

I mean, this is straight bonkers, y'all:

Throughout the press conference, the conspiracy theorists had trouble keeping things focused. Harlem minister James David Manning wandered off on a tangent about how Obama's election still means "there's never been a black womb" that produced a president. Manning might have seemed like he was making a case against Obama based on some theory of black nationalism, except that he admitted he had endorsed John McCain in the campaign. That was after he had called Obama "this usurper, this long-legged mack daddy."


Taitz -- the lead attorney in the case the Supreme Court declined to hear Monday morning -- kept making stranger and stranger assertions. At one point, she asked why the government had fined broadcasters for Janet Jackson's "wardrobe malfunction," but didn't intervene to force the media to report on Obama's allegedly phony birth certificate. She claimed Obama holds passports from at least four countries, compared him to Black Panther leader Eldridge Cleaver, equated the "controversy" about Obama to Watergate, and finished her tour-de-force presentation by saying that if Obama can claim he's a U.S. citizen and win an election, then so could just about anyone. "If a person can become a presidential candidate only based on his own statement," she said, "then somebody like Osama bin Laden, theoretically, can come and write a statement, 'I'm eligible,' and we should put him on the ballot, too?"

I also appreciate that Madden is kind enough to throw in a little News You Can Use about how the mentally ill are always using the National Press Club as a venue to validate their lunatic night terrors:

It was clear from the occasional applause that most of the people in the room agreed with Schultz, anyway. Although the event was at the National Press Club, that's no guarantee of mainstream media interest. Groups may appear legitimate because they hold a news conference at the club, but the dirty little secret is the club rents out its rooms to anybody who shows up with the money. Most of the people apparently came from the weirder corners of the media. One friendly questioner, Shelli Baker of Morning Song Radio, wound up taking the mike for about 10 minutes to tell a complicated story involving Saudi oil barons, John Ashcroft, sharia law, the World Bank and Mitt Romney, which left even Schultz confused.

If you recall, the National Press Club is where the unbalanced Larry Sinclair held his own "stupefying press conference." Anyway, Madden says the conspiracy twits have "another lawsuit up [their] sleeve," so, there's no reason that any of this ever has to end.

Mike Madden chronicles in Salon a day spent watching the people who believe President-Elect Barack Obama isn't a natural born citizen because of gamma rays emanating from internet porn. It's a story t...
Mike Madden chronicles in Salon a day spent watching the people who believe President-Elect Barack Obama isn't a natural born citizen because of gamma rays emanating from internet porn. It's a story t...
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The commentary on this tread is quite entertaining. Thanks for the funnies, my fellow bloggers!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 12/10/2008
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This is the conspiracy theorists dream - no matter what you do, they will always have a "what if" - even though the birth certificate is here for all to see and Hawaii has verified that the it is real and he was born there. This article is the best story I've seen that tells us what is driving this non-story - mental illness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 12/10/2008
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Has anyone "proved" that PE Obama's mother was in Kenya during the time period of his birth? Has she EVER been there? I am aware she traveled to Indonesia from Hawaii, but I've never heard of her travels to Africa. Would this make his birth in Kenya rather difficult if his mother had never been there?


Just askin'.

P.S. I wonder what PE Obama's father's other wives would have said and done if they knew of his American "bride" visiting the "homeland". Family reunion, anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 12/10/2008
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I wonder about that too. The legal filings say there are "reports" of her doing so, but examples are as scarce as copies of the birth certificate that McCain is so loudly said to have produced.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 12/10/2008
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These people are full on crazy. They essentially say that Obama's mother or grandparents arranged to have a certificate of live birth created for him when he was born in Kenya. The certificate of live birth can be issued if you aren't born in a hospital. They want the other certificate, the one with the footprints or what not.

Of course requiring the birth certificate with the footprints essentially makes it a requirement that no one who is born in a taxi on the way to the hospital or decided to do a natural home birth is eligible to be President of the Untied States.

The hoops in logic you have to go through in order to make the story that Obama was born in Kenya is impressive. He would have had citizenship in the US no matter what from his mother. It just doesn't make any sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 12/10/2008

Obama probably is a US citizen - however the Constitution is clear in its distinct requirement that a US President be BOTH a citizen AND natural born. (the later assumes a citizen father and US terrirorial birth)

The legal challenges may be partisan in nature, but their function is probably as the framers intended. To stop the court cases - show the American people a standard copy of O's BC - that simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 12/10/2008
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Yep..simple...yet it would seem solving World Hunger would be easier...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 12/10/2008

So when did natural born mean citizen father? I thought it meant born in the US as opposed to becoming a citizen after birth. Obama is a natural born citizen. He was born in Hawaii. Last I checked it is part of the US. Hawaii has stated the birth certificate is real, so what's the problem. I don't have my orginal birth certificate, if needed I can go get another one at the health department. It's my understanding that is what Obama did.

I have a relative whose mother is from England and father from US. she was born in the US and is a citizen. She has dual citizenship, but that shouldn't prohibit her from being considered a natural born citizen. If the constitution prohibits someone from becoming president unless their father is citizen then Washington and a host of others were not elegible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 12/10/2008

So, people don't have ink, paper and feet in Kenya?

Any such piece of paper with footprints on it is a memento, not a legal document.

Even amongst this richest of pseudo-legal piffle, the `shadow birth certificate' is a good one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 12/10/2008
- tedmore123 I'm a Fan of tedmore123 3 fans permalink

Once again the flaggelating, near-human anthropoids from the shallow end of the gene pool come forth to plead their case. Next week it will be how floride in our drinking water is making us all dumber.
Hmmmmmm. fits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 12/10/2008

‘Cropped’ from the bottom of the live birth document accompanying this article, there exists the term 'Prima Facie' – or on first appearances.

Taken literally the information presented may be insufficient to enable a party to prevail in a court of law if an opposing party introduces contradictory evidence.

Those who feel that this birth information -the only released by Obama to date - explains the missing information provided on all other regular copies of Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth (Birth Certificate) from that period, are wrongly assuming the presented documentation as sufficient.

Their stance might be best defined by another legal term, ‘Res ipsa loquitur’ - which is the legal argument that because it is so obvious, no other detail is necessary.

Yet, Obama’s abstracted version of a long form birth certificate identifies itself with Prima Facie evidence - right on the document!

10$ and a phone call is all it would take to clear this up Mr. Obama. Any American can do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 12/10/2008
- Sparhawk I'm a Fan of Sparhawk 12 fans permalink

They don't WANT to go there....pretty obvious

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 12/10/2008
- bodo I'm a Fan of bodo 7 fans permalink

There should be a law requiring heavy fines to be imposed for frivolous lawsuits at the taxpayers' expense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 12/10/2008
- Pdubya I'm a Fan of Pdubya 44 fans permalink

why didn't kenya arrest corsi five months ago? or now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 12/10/2008
- lunchlady I'm a Fan of lunchlady 17 fans permalink

Just in case these folks run out of gas on the birth certificate, which I doubt, here are some new conspiracy/scandal ideas:
Obama is an alien and all his supporters are pod people.
Obama never paid off his school loans.
Obama wears boxers, not briefs.
Obama smokes clove cigarettes.
Obama talks trash on the basketball court.
Obama wants to take the flouride out of the nation's water supply.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 12/10/2008

Obama talks trash on the basketball court.

Now that's something they should investigate., using intimidation to inprove his chances foe winning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 12/10/2008
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The fluoride thing would get him the Ron Paul voters...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 12/10/2008

Hope these nuts are being charged full Court Costs!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 12/10/2008
- mervr1 I'm a Fan of mervr1 27 fans permalink

These people are the main reason we need Universal Healthcare, because they obviously need some psychiatric help and can't afford it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 12/10/2008

These people would be better served using their time and money for psychiatric services.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 12/10/2008
- Vere15 I'm a Fan of Vere15 10 fans permalink

Ms Taitz

Why on earth would you even consider using Eldridge Cleaver, who as convicted as an active hands on domestic terrorist, was welcomed with open and unqualified enthusiasm into the Republican Party and the religious right.

Obviously, you have become so dizzied by your own spin that you have completely unravelled even more effectively the argument made by Democrats against the Ayers issue.

Congratulations on your support for the Democratic Party. With enemies like you who needs friends.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 12/10/2008

All this does is prove me right when I say that the real reason behind these lawsuits is racism.

The people filing these lawsuits should get together and for some cyanide-laced cocktails.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 12/10/2008
- Pdubya I'm a Fan of Pdubya 44 fans permalink

race-baiting is such a weak argument.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 12/10/2008
- Sparhawk I'm a Fan of Sparhawk 12 fans permalink

gratutious racism...you seem poud of that...

Grow up. Can't there be a discussion about Obama without reference to Race????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 12/10/2008
- KarlaElisa I'm a Fan of KarlaElisa 17 fans permalink
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This pisses me off for the simple reason that this is a frivolous suit tying up an already overburdened court system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 12/10/2008
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if they want to waist there money so be it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 12/10/2008
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I hope that courts start assessing them court costs for wasting their time and my money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 12/10/2008
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