Obama And Blagojevich's Distant Relationship: They Haven't Talked For More Than A Year

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First Posted: 12-11-08 11:47 PM   |   Updated: 01-11-09 05:12 AM

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Blagojevich Corruption Probe

President-elect Obama's history with disgraced Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich is dissected in several reports, including stories of how the men haven't talked in more than a year and how Obama spurned Blagojevich during the Democratic convention in September.

The Washington Post reports:

Like every other politician in Illinois, Gov. Rod Blagojevich waited for Barack Obama's call this summer. He told colleagues that he expected a speaking role at the 2008 Democratic National Convention, a nice bit of payback for being the first governor to endorse the senator from Illinois in his campaign for president. By showing off a connection to Obama in Denver, Blagojevich hoped to repair his own diminished reputation.


Obama's campaign made speaking offers to the Illinois treasurer, the comptroller, the attorney general and a Chicago city clerk. Sen. Richard J. Durbin (Ill.) was asked to introduce Obama on the convention's final night; Rep. Jesse L. Jackson Jr. (Ill.) was told he would speak on television during prime time. Finally, fed up and embarrassed that he still had heard nothing, Blagojevich joked to a crowd at the Illinois State Fair that, yes, he also had been asked to speak -- at 4 a.m., in a Denver area men's bathroom.

Long before federal prosecutors charged Blagojevich with bribery this week, Obama had worked to distance himself from his home-state governor. The two men have not talked for more than a year, colleagues said, save for a requisite handshake at a funeral or public event. Blagojevich rarely campaigned for Obama and never stumped with him. The governor arrived late at the Democratic convention and skipped Obama's victory-night celebration at Chicago's Grant Park...

The president-elect's connection to Blagojevich is emblematic of his political rise in Chicago. Obama had contact with corruption, but rarely firsthand. He relied on the establishment when he needed it, but he maintained enough distance to cast himself as an outsider.

"Few people I've ever known have as good a sense about who might end up getting you in trouble," said Denny Jacobs, a retired Illinois politician from East Moline who befriended Obama when they both served in the state Senate. "It's like a sixth sense. Chicago's a mess, and he was surrounded by it. But he knew the people that could drag you down and tarnish your image."

The New York Times delves into Obama and Blagojevich's contrasting relationships with indicted real-estate developer Antoin Rezko, who was an insider in both their camps:

For much of the presidential campaign, Mr. Obama was dogged by questions about his long friendship with Mr. Rezko, a real-estate developer who was involved in a deal related to land next to Mr. Obama's home.


And as the 76-page complaint against Mr. Blagojevich makes clear, Mr. Rezko was also one of the governor's closest advisers, making him one of the few people in Illinois politics who was an insider in both the Blagojevich and Obama camps.

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But while that could make him a potential bridge between the two men, people who worked with Mr. Rezko say his ties to them were largely kept separate, in part because Mr. Obama, a former United States senator from Illinois, and Mr. Blagojevich were never particularly close.

And while Mr. Obama's rivals will undoubtedly try to tar him over his political ties in what is widely seen as one of the nation's most corrupt states, nothing has surfaced to suggest that Mr. Rezko, who is in jail in Chicago awaiting sentencing, has provided any information about potential improprieties by Mr. Obama...

While Mr. Obama supported Mr. Blagojevich in the general election, he had endorsed one of Mr. Blagojevich's rivals in the Democratic primary.

Others say that Mr. Obama and Mr. Blagojevich were always quite different in personality and style and never seemed very fond of each other.

A few months ago, around the time that Blagojevich was spurned by Obama at the convention, he was facing major financial troubles, reports the Wall Street Journal:

At the same time, Mr. Blagojevich was facing financial troubles, according to several references in the federal affidavit. People familiar with the matter say his campaign fund had failed to pay more than $500,000 in legal fees incurred by his past legal counsel, Winston & Strawn. He also owed more than $900,000 on homes in Chicago and Washington, D.C., according to property records.
President-elect Obama's history with disgraced Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich is dissected in several reports, including stories of how the men haven't talked in more than a year and how Obama spur...
President-elect Obama's history with disgraced Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich is dissected in several reports, including stories of how the men haven't talked in more than a year and how Obama spur...
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Hey 69 blues? Is 69 your IQ? Obama the best president of all time. He hasn't even taken the office yet. What kind of fantasy world do you live in?

At least wait until after the Coronation in January to make a statement like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 12/12/2008
- Skiwee I'm a Fan of Skiwee 13 fans permalink
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In this photo, Obama isn't even looking at Blagojevich. They need to stop trying to tie them together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 12/12/2008
- shades3 I'm a Fan of shades3 33 fans permalink

The Bush Administration has abused the not commenting on an ongoing investigation to the point that even though it's a valid position to take in this case, it's been abused so often by Bush and Co. that people think it means there's a coverup going on.
Commenting on this actual ongoing, very public investigation, especially when he is NOT involved in any wrongdoing, just to satisfy the press would be foolish.
Barack Obama is certainly not foolish. So, he is, as any of us would be, standing aside and letting Fitzgerald and his very able team handle it, which is what they are paid to do.
Wise. Not devious. WISE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 12/12/2008

obama by far the BEST president of any time

it's about time......­......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 12/12/2008

Let's not get ahead of ourselves please. Obama definitely looks like he's got great potential, but history should be the judge. He's up against still competition: Lincoln, Washington, the Roosevelts. Personally I think people should look more into Washington. I don't think America would be what it is today, and we wouldn't have our constitution without him. I think he gets severely overlooked because these days as everyone talks about Lincoln. Washington had nothing to go on but his own judgment. No precedence, nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 12/12/2008

i'm glad obamas in the Black House,and that his change has not onle effected the us

but the world now print that in your papers or are you lames to stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 12/12/2008

So the bad Democrats aren't really Democrats or something? And the good Democrats never even talk with the bad Democrats, not one word, let alone work with them. Democrats can't have it both ways you support getting every Democrat possible elected and then take zero responsibility for the corrupt candidates you get elected! Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich is the Democrats' man, he could NOT be governor without huge Democratic party and voter support, there were other honest fully qualified Democrats who you could have supported in the primaries but Democrats knowingly chose a corrupt politician. It almost makes you think a whole lot of other Illinois Democrats must be corrupt too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 12/12/2008
- anghiari I'm a Fan of anghiari 22 fans permalink

Excuse me ROLLING DIVISION ...I have yet to hear a major Republican admit to the huge mistake made in electing George Bush, Jr 8 years ago....Hav­e you noticed Wall Street, Main Street and Iraq? Show me a Republican who is crying crocodile tears for the swiftboating of John McCain by the Republican party in 2000 in South Carolina with smear and innuendo. Had McCain been able to win SC...it was assured he would take Michigan and the guy could have been our President for the last 8 years rather than that poseur...S­o Democrats will take reponsibility for Democrats, when you guys embrace Tom Delay (sp?), Cheney, Rumsfelt, Wolfowitz , Gonzales and the myriad crooks you put in office...u­ntil them Gov.B is an idiot and ought to take responsibility for his own idiocy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 12/12/2008
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It's called selective amnesia. I noticed tr00ls like RollingRock never mention the last eight years, or Bush's name. However they can quote from memory any insane speculation they have ever heard about Obama, and predict what he will be like in the future. It's a unique psychosis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 12/12/2008
- sclucie I'm a Fan of sclucie 9 fans permalink

Have you looked at unemployment rates lately? Or at your retirement fund? Tell you what - why don't you look that over, and then compare it to how it looked in the year 2000. To be honest, I don not care about the Govenor of Illinois. I care about whether or not I can send my daughter to college.

And if you want to talk about abuses in govenment, take a look at the Yoo Memo - which got about 60 minutes of coverage in the MSM - or any source for that matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 12/12/2008
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get over it pal, MCCAIN LOST! HE'S NOT GOING TO BE PRESIDENT!

PRESIDENT OBAMA
PRESIDENT OBAMA
PRESIDENT OBAMA

GET USED TO IT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 12/12/2008
- vjoseph I'm a Fan of vjoseph 66 fans permalink
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Your intellect = 0%

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 12/12/2008

I've been listening for the last couple of days and the media's been saying, you know, Obama wouldn't give him anything, and it's kind of funny to me that the media all skipped this part of the transcript, where Rod Blagojevich said that the consultants are telling him that he has to suck it up for two years and do nothing. You have to learn how to speak Chicagoan and you have to learn how to speak Chicago politics. What they're telling him is, "You're drawing too much heat. You gotta wait yourself for two years and in two years when you're done we'll take care of you." What he's saying is he wants it up front. But the funny thing is who told him he has to wait for two years? Who was the consultant that told him that? If Obama hadn't talked to him and Rahm Emanuel didn't talk to him, who was the one who told him he had to wait for two years?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 12/12/2008

who made YoU privey to so much inFo? I'm curious??? where's the source?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 12/12/2008
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I truly DON'T believe that President Obama had anything to do w/ this scandal. However, like Eugene Robinson said in his latest article, SOMEONE had to tell Blagojevich that all he would get from Obama was his appreciation. Now... knowing a little about politics..­. that doesn't mean it came from Obama or any of his staff. It could have just been some poseur attempting to speak on behalf of Obama.

And I know that this is an 'ongoing' investigation so they are trying to keep a lid on the informatio­n... however, they let it out that "candidate #5" was Jesse, Jr... I think they should tell us who all the other 'mystery' people on the tape are so we can assess all the information ourselves instead of doing this piecemeal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 12/12/2008
- anghiari I'm a Fan of anghiari 22 fans permalink

Both you and Gene are pretty naive...If Obama didn't invite the guy to speak at the Democratic National Convention, but asked every other Illinois State official. B and PE haven't spoken in year...but the media wants to make them best friends? The chattering classes were surely talking who they thought Obama wanted, didn't want...Gov B is all about leverage and if he thought that he could leverage Ms. Jarrett or any other person seen as a close pal of Obama...do you think he wouldn't do that? I just saw an article saying Rahm Emanuel offered up a list of who the Obama campaign thought would be good choices. Any president wants a majority in the Senate and House to move his agenda...b­ut that does not mean Obama would choose to speak to B...and the other article I saw speculates that Rahm Emanuel turned Gov. B in....do we know whether Gov B's people called the Obama people trying to at least get some acknowledgement after they had been ignored...­and try to play hard and fast with Rahm? questions, questions

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 12/12/2008
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His own people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 12/12/2008

The truth is this: I talk to a lot of people - everyone wants to know about the jobs and are turning off MSM. So if that is the litmus test ---- the sad truth is this: MSM drives it because people watch it, but I doubt it's the people looking for job and/or are wondering how they are going to spend the holidays.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 12/12/2008
- Shashi0224 I'm a Fan of Shashi0224 93 fans permalink

I just love and admire our President -Elect SO MUCH!! It's going to be wonderful having intelligence and compassion in the White House. In these very troubled times, he is truly our hope!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 12/12/2008
- Tom Joad I'm a Fan of Tom Joad 279 fans permalink
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O said he hadn't spoken to the gov about the senate seat. and now, through brilliant investigative reporting we find that...O hasn't spoken to the gov about the senate seat. heckuva job, cub reporters!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 12/12/2008
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lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 12/12/2008
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The broadcast news media is so 'drunk" with trying to cast aspersions against Obama, as if he was Blagojevich's best friend! Amazing!! I guess if we can find anything so sinister beyond guilt by association, we can just infer...or the msm can just make it up!! Why is it so necessary to tarnish this great man, when there is no reason but self-gratification by the fickle media, who only likes you when you're down!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 12/12/2008
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Obama, William Ayers, Gov. Blago and the Rev Wright had a meeting on the grassy knoll.....­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 12/12/2008
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...and decided to go on vacation together in Roswell...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 12/12/2008

...and met the Devil at the crossroads­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 12/12/2008
- anghiari I'm a Fan of anghiari 22 fans permalink

you mean they met with with Cheney/Rumsfeld?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 12/12/2008

This is why a black man should not be president in the US because forever the white rethugs will try to tie him to something that isn't even there. Now they're linking Eric Holder. They only talk about Valerie and Jessie but yet they aren't talking about the white people who was trying to get the seat as well. Sad America Sad. But it just plays into the stereotypical views whites have of blacks that they can't make it unless they get handouts or Affirmative Action. I wish Obama the best of luck because whenever something happens in Illinois or to black people they are always going to point their finger at him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 12/12/2008
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You have to have very thick skin to be black in America (or any other minority group)...s­ad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 12/12/2008
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so true !!!

But I have to disagree w/ the original poster. Don't punish Black men (or women) because of the prejudice of others. We have every right to be President (or anything else). Just because some people can't handle it... that's their problem... not ours. We are going to do what we want... they will just have to get over it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 12/12/2008
- shades3 I'm a Fan of shades3 33 fans permalink

It's not just about race, AbyssinianLion. It's about power being challenged.
Because the ones who have give it up reluctantly, Barack Obama is a target for their wrath for having lost the Presidential Election.
His being bi-racial is but another arrow in their quiver. It's a visible difference that the ignorant latch onto, and totally expected.
Barack Obama has handled the ignorant attacks on his character and on his family with a grace and class that few of us could have duplicated.
He truly was the best choice to lead and will prove it over his time in office.
You'll see. Intelligence and class are not monopolies of any one ethnic group and Obama has outshone everyone to whom he has been compared.
With his election, the American people have a winner, if they just look at him and listen to him.
Congratulations on finally choosing a leader who will do you proud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 12/12/2008

Obama and many of his team were (are) integral parts of the Chicago/Illinois Democratic political machine so they are correctly being judged by their roles. So let's get all the facts out, complete transparency will show the public how honest and ethical they really are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 12/12/2008

I agree. But let's not stop with the Dems, let's dig into all political organizations. Cook County has its rep - deservedly so - but there are many other corners in IL, and in nearby states such as OH, PA, and WV, where Rep operatives have behaved in almost identical fashion.

This is also why impeachment of Bush & Cheney is of paramount importance to this country. We need to examine their behavior, and the means to which they subverted constitutional law so that we can make the legal changes that will circumvent similar opportunities for future administrations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 12/12/2008

You need to talk to the Dems who promised impeachment and didn't. As to the rest of it, start in Chicago and other known "cultures of corruption", I'd add New York state and New Jersey to your suggestions. The justice department has lots of people and can do many investigations at once. Please post about your remarks on OH, PA, and WV, where Rep operatives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 12/12/2008
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Nobody liked Blago or talked to him that's why the GOP is going to hurt themselves reaching to tie him with Obama. Even the Lt. Gov. hadn't talked to Blago in over a year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 12/12/2008
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