Auto Bailout: White House Considers Using Wall Street Bailout Funds

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DAVID ESPO | December 12, 2008 09:23 PM EST | AP

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Retired Los Angeles Unified School District employee, Jonathan Middleton, left, shops for a new Corvette sports vehicle offered for sale by salesman, Philip Jordan, right, at the Felix Chevrolet-Cadillac dealership in downtown Los Angeles on Friday, Dec. 12, 2008. With Congress gridlocked and the economy flailing, the Bush administration declared Friday it would step in and prevent the "precipitous collapse" of the U.S. auto industry and the disastrous economic impact of the hundreds of thousands of job losses sure to follow. (AP Photo/Damian Dovarganes)

WASHINGTON — With Congress gridlocked and the economy floundering, the Bush administration declared Friday it would step in to prevent the "precipitous collapse" of the U.S. auto industry and the disastrous loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs sure to follow.

A day after the sudden demise of rescue legislation in Congress, carmakers were talking with the administration and the Federal Reserve about how they could still get the billions of dollars they say they need to survive. The talks included conditions that automakers would have to meet, said GM spokesman Greg Martin.

The administration said no decisions had been made on the size or duration of the new bailout plan, or what type of concessions might be demanded from the struggling automakers, their workers, stockholders or others.

In a reversal, the most likely rescue option under consideration involved billions of dollars originally ticketed for the bailout of the financial industry. President George W. Bush had earlier declared that money off-limits to the beleaguered automakers.

General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC have warned they are running out of cash and face bankruptcy without some form of assistance. Ford Motor Co., which is in somewhat better shape financially, has been seeking access to a line of credit.

Underlining its difficulties, GM announced Friday it would cut another 250,000 vehicles from its first-quarter production schedule _ a third of its normal output _ by temporarily closing 21 factories across North America. The move affects most plants in the U.S., Canada and Mexico. Many will be shut the whole month of January.

Urgent requests for White House intervention to save the automakers came from President-elect Barack Obama, Republican and Democratic members of Congress and outside groups.

"Under normal economic conditions we would prefer that markets determine the ultimate fate of private firms," White House press secretary Dana Perino said after the failure of a $14 billion bailout bill in Congress. The legislation died when Senate Republicans demanded upfront pay and benefit concessions from the United Auto Workers that union officials rejected.

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Perino added, "Given the current weakened state of the U.S. economy, we will consider other options if necessary including use of the TARP program to prevent a collapse of troubled automakers. A precipitous collapse of this industry would have a severe impact on our economy, and it would be irresponsible to further weaken and destabilize our economy at this time."

TARP is the $700 billion Troubled Assets Recovery Program, the financial industry bailout plan enacted in October. All but $15 billion of the first $350 billion has been dedicated to troubled banks or insurance companies, and the Treasury Department is barred from dipping into the second $350 billion without a formal notification of Congress.

No decision has been reached about such a notification, administration officials said. If one is made, Congress could then vote to prevent the action, but it would be unlikely to prevail in a showdown with the president.

Obama, who will inherit the problem next month, even if bailout billions are handed over in the meantime, said, "My hope is that the administration and the Congress will still find a way to give the industry the temporary assistance it needs while demanding the long-term restructuring that is absolutely required."

In a letter to Bush, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi urged the president to demand "the same tough accountability" and taxpayer protections from the automakers as was contained in legislation that cleared the House at midweek.

Michigan Rep. Thaddeus McCotter, a conservative Republican from a state where Ford, GM and Chrysler are headquartered, said, "With the legislative opportunities now exhausted, I urge the president of the United States to immediately release Wall Street TARP funds to the domestic automakers to avoid their impending bankruptcy and its consequent devastation of working families and the depression of our American economy."

It was unclear what role was left to lawmakers after an extraordinary week in which prospects for industry relief seemed to change by the hour.

A week ago, the government reported the loss of 533,000 jobs in November, the worst monthly showing in more than 30 years.

In the days between then and now, the White House and congressional Democrats agreed on a $14 billion measure that would have extended short-term financing to the industry while establishing a powerful new "car czar" to make sure the money was used to turn the Big Three into competitive companies. That bill passed the House on Wednesday but immediately ran into opposition from Senate Republicans who said it did not go far enough.

On Thursday, they demanded the United Auto Workers union agree to accept a lower pay and benefits package that would be in line with compensation earned by workers at U.S. factories producing cars for Japanese companies such as Honda, Toyota and Nissan. In an unprecedented series of negotiations, lawmakers met with representatives of industry and labor on the first floor of the Capitol in hopes of striking a deal _ the effort that ultimately collapsed when the UAW balked at the terms demanded.

At a news conference on Friday, UAW President Ron Gettelfinger accused GOP senators who blocked emergency loans of trying to "pierce the heart" of organized labor.

Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., who played a leading role for Republicans, told reporters at the Capitol that the talks came close to success but failed when the UAW refused to commit to lowering its pay-and-benefits package in 2009 so it would be "competitive" with the Japanese companies _ a lower threshold, he said, than his previous demand that wages and benefits be "at parity" with foreign counterparts.

He also laid blame at the feet of the administration. "I think it being known that the White House at the end of the day would probably blink probably helped keep us from a deal," he said.

Whatever the reason, the effort stalled when Republicans voted en masse against advancing the original House bill to a final vote late Thursday night.

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Associated Press writers Laurie Kellman and Ken Thomas in Washington and Tom Krisher and Kimberly S. Johnson in Detroit contributed to this story.

WASHINGTON — With Congress gridlocked and the economy floundering, the Bush administration declared Friday it would step in to prevent the "precipitous collapse" of the U.S. auto industry and th...
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RESEARSH :
You GOP bankers with Trillions of dollars
in forty day or less President Obama will spin all GOP heads so fast with all the attachments Oboma will attach to that $Trillions it belong to the american people your days of owning any thing is over
President Obama is for change that includes bankers

Do you think President Oboma dosen't know bankers with all high risk loans they created
to the point that are economy collapse ( I DON'T THINK SO ) Ha Ha Ha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 12/15/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 253 fans permalink

If I understand you, Yes I hope Obama is more FDR than the GOP is prepared for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 12/15/2008
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from the article:

The proposed bank "bailout" under the so-called Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is not a "solution" to the crisis but the "cause" of further collapse.

The "bailout" contributes to a further process of destabilization of the financial architecture. It transfers large amounts of public money, at taxpayers expense, into the hands of private financiers. It leads to a spiraling public debt and an unprecedented centralization of banking power. Moreover, the bailout money is used by the financial giants to secure corporate acquisitions both in the financial sector and the real economy.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10977

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 12/13/2008
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It's hoover funding the Bankers versus FDR fixing the economy. all over again.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/users/profile/research?action=profile

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 12/13/2008
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Ha Ha Ha!

We GOP Bankers have Trillions of dollars!

No strings attached!

We have ALL the money.

Beg and we might give you some.

We Own you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 12/13/2008

RESEARCH:::

Please Read dvdpt (Educate) your self

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 12/15/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 12/15/2008
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"And while proposed federal aid to the Big 3 would take the form of a loan, the vast majority of subsidies to foreign auto plants were taxpayer gifts such as property and sales tax exemptions, income tax credits, infrastructure aid, land discounts, and training grants," he said.

Honda, Marysville OH, 1980, $27 million*

Nissan, Smyrna, TN, 1980, $233 million**

Toyota, Georgetown, KY, 1985, $147 million

Honda, Anna, OH, 1985, $27 million*

Subaru, Lafayette, IN, 1986, $94 million

Honda, East Liberty, OH, 1987, $27 million*

BMW, Spartanburg, SC, 1992, $150 million

Mercedes-Benz, Vance, AL, 1993, $258 million

Toyota, Princeton, IN, 1995, $30 million

Nissan, Decherd, TN, 1995, $200 million**

Toyota, Buffalo, WV, 1996, more than $15 million

Honda, Lincoln, AL, 1999, $248 million

Nissan, Canton, MS, 2000, $295 million

Toyota, Huntsville, AL, 2001, $30 million

Hyundai, Montgomery, AL, 2002, $252 million

Toyota, San Antonio, TX, 2003, $133 million
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Kia, West Point, GA, 2006, $400 million

Honda, Greensburg, IN, 2006, $141 million

Toyota, Blue Springs, MS, 2007, $300 million

Volkswagen, Chattanooga, TN, 2008, $577 million

Total: more than $3.58 billion

* total of direct subsidies to all Honda facilities in Ohio

** includes about $200 million for expansions of Smyrna and Decherd plants

List does not include joint ventures with U.S. companies

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-parker/transplant-automakers-get_b_150804.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 12/13/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 253 fans permalink

Tanks! Incredible how this part of the argument seldom comes up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 12/13/2008

Pretty sad that Canada has to come to our rescue because our own country does not know the value of the American Auto Industry. If they are allowed to fail, it will not be like one store closing. It will be all the factories, all the parts suppliers, all the dealerships and all the small businesses that rely on them. Other countries like Germany, Japan and China are not thrilled by the prospect of even one going down, recognizing the global implications if they no longer have the suppliers around. What is not being widely reported is; Toyota came out and said that they pay the same if not higher wages than the big three ( I heard it once yesterday on CNN). Also the foreign automakers are already being bailed out by their countries since they are also down by 30%, due to the global recession. GM faces stiff competition here in America but globally they sell 50% of the worlds cars. The Southern Republican Senators and the Blue Dog Democrats motives are blatently clear. They would never support a bill that gives aide to their competition. Too bad they are shooting themselves in the foot because alot of their suppliers are also suppliers to the big three, including my husbands non-union plant which will close down if the big three fails.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 12/13/2008
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Stocks Close Higher On Renewed Hope For Bailout
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Um, does this feel at all familiar? Didn't we just do a "bailout" (giveaway) for the banks where this same dance was done; Were gonna, no were not gonna, yes we are gonna, nope, yep....and the stock market reacted accordingly making the inside players even wealthier in space of a week and a half!

Aren't you disgusted by this manipulation? Aren't you tired of being player for a fool?
Aren't you sick at heart to believe that an entire nation of hard working, albeit incredibly gullible, Americans can be led down the same path again and again while the boys in DC and on Wall Street grow fatter and sleeker and we lose jobs, houses, and our country?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 12/13/2008

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sign the petition at ceasespin's website - google "fix news now"
the news media is killing America by abdicating its responsibility of putting a check on abuses of power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 12/13/2008
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The undertaker and the undertakee - golden showers anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 12/13/2008
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Isn't this just another chapter of the re-write of the
Bush Administration legacy? Couldn't this have been
done first? This is very big power Bush holds over
the Big 3, and the country, for that matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 12/12/2008
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The GOP are too dumb to realize that they have just handed the UAW and other unions the best recruiting tool they've had in years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 12/12/2008
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Where were these Republicans and their concern about wages and salaries when the bankers came crawling for money?

Why is that they are after blue collar workers -- and not white collar, silk tie, Armani-suited bankers??

If America's working men and women don't remember this when the next Congressional elections are held, then they're crazy. The Republicans laid down and rolled over for their banking buddies -- hey, we all play golf at the same club -- but when it comes to hard-working people who make cars, well let's make sure they give up what they earn.

The hypocrisy is stunning.

How stupid do they think Americans are??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 12/12/2008
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So there is this facade of an argument by GOP about why they don't support a bailout for the Auto industry, i.e. "the UAW workers make too much money and as a result Detroit is uncompetitive". I and many others know this is a cover up for union-busting, but many others, including some here, do not. So the AP did some research, and it turns out that when it comes to hourly wages, Detroit workers get about the same. When it comes to total labour cost per worker, Detroit workers cost about $15 to $20 more. Wanna know why?? Cuz the bulk of that extra cost is HEALTHCARE COSTS, which foreign countries provide for their companies, but which ours does not (you know, no universal healthcare and all). So next time u wanna fall for the GOP talking points about how the UAW is destroying Detroit, do ur research.

Automaker wages/hr Totalcosts

General Motors $29.78 $69

Ford Motor Co. $29.00 $71

Chrysler LLC $30.00 $74

Toyota Motor. $30.00-x $48

Nissan Motor Co. $25.00-x NA

Honda Motor Co. $27.62-x $47

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 12/12/2008
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Oh add to that the millions the southern GOP states have given to get those foreign auto companies to build factories.

It's the GOP trying to destroys the middle class.

It's Hoover GOP versus FDR public works.

My profile has ref links.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 12/12/2008
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 144 fans permalink

research, every one who hates the unions wants to leave out those other "expenses" that come right out of the pockets of the tax payers. And you are right, this is not just about destroying the union--it is about Total Class Warfare and the destruction of the Middle Class--every one of us, including the idiots who write here and say the unions are to blame. I think we've become too fat and too spoiled for too long. That's gonna end real quick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 12/13/2008
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Hey, folks this country was built on the backs of slaves -- we can't expect much. Let's be real. It's in the DNA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 12/12/2008
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 35 fans permalink

and is no more slaves.so now we use third world cheap labor

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 12/12/2008
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Still slaves. Just from another non-white continent. And with the wonders of globalization, no need to ship 'em here. Saves on overhead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 12/12/2008

Just heard on Countdown, yesterday, the GOP sent out a memo to elected republican not to go along with the bailout/bridge loan to get back at the AUW for supporting dems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 12/12/2008
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 35 fans permalink

how come the banks arnt comming to there rescue .because they want to bust the unions only

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 12/12/2008
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