GM, Chrysler Likely To Get $15 Billion

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December 16, 2008 06:21 PM EST | AP

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White House Press Secretary Dana Perino, sporting a black eye from the scuffle in Iraq during the shoe throwing incident over the weekend, responds to a reporters question, Tuesday, Dec. 16, 2008, during her daily briefing at the White House in Washington. (AP Photo)

WASHINGTON — Conservative Republicans admonished the White House Tuesday not to use bank-bailout billions to rescue distressed U.S. automakers, and a key Democrat demanded the government get veto power over the companies' business decisions as a condition of any aid.

The Bush administration said it was still evaluating options and suggested any deal would require major concessions by all sides. Complicating its task, lawmakers in both parties _ having failed in their efforts to push a $14 billion auto rescue through a bailout-weary Congress _ were pressing for an array of terms and conditions they said should be part of any Plan B.

"We are not going to be rushed into it," presidential press secretary Dana Perino declared.

Only a day earlier, President George W. Bush suggested that a rescue package would come sooner rather than later. "An abrupt bankruptcy for autos could be devastating for the economy," Bush said on Monday. "This will not be a long process because of the economic fragility of the autos."

Still, conservative Republican lawmakers, many from Southern states that are home to Japanese auto plants, wrote to Bush asking him not to use one of the most readily available pots of money _ the $700 billion Wall Street rescue fund _ to help the U.S. carmakers.

And the White House and Treasury Department were in talks with Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., who has been pressing for big union concessions in exchange for rescue money, on the terms and structure of a possible bailout, said a senior GOP congressional aide.

Corker came close last week to striking a deal with the United Auto Workers union for a $14 billion bill that would have forced the carmakers to bring their wages and benefits in line with those of Japanese auto companies in the U.S. by a specific date in 2009. The measure collapsed after the UAW refused to agree to wage cuts that quickly. The new contacts with the administration were disclosed on condition of anonymity because the aide was not authorized to divulge them.

Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass. weighed in as well, urging Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to adopt the accountability provisions included in a House-passed auto bailout bill _ the product of a deal with the White House _ as a condition of any bridge loans to U.S. automakers. That measure would have given a Bush-appointed overseer say-so over any major business decisions by the automakers while they were taking advantage of federal aid, including the power to nix any transaction of $100 million or more.

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"Given the serious mistakes that senior auto industry executives acknowledge they have made in the past, such safeguards are absolutely necessary to ensure that taxpayers are protected and that the retooling of this critical industry proceeds as quickly as possible," Frank wrote to Paulson on Tuesday.

GM and Chrysler have said they will run out of cash within weeks if they don't get help. Ford Motor Co. has said it has enough cash to survive 2009.

Perino said the administration was still working on details of the package, which could reach $15 billion for General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC.

She said concessions had to be made in exchange for the money.

"I don't think that there's any possible way that this president would agree to allow taxpayer financing to go toward firms that are not willing to make tough decisions to become viable and competitive in the future," she said.

Bush said Tuesday that his administration was "considering all options" for helping the automakers, arguing that the already distressed economy could slide further into recession without prompt action.

"What you don't want to do is spend a lot of taxpayers' money and then have the same old stuff happen again and again and again," Bush told CNN in an interview. At the same time, he said, "we're trying to get this done in an expeditious way."

The administration indicated it would extend a helping hand to the domestic automakers after an aid effort died in Congress late last week. The White House had wanted Congress to act.

The timing and details of Plan B _ the Bush administration stepping in to help the automakers directly _ remain in flux. In the absence of action, lawmakers were eagerly offering up their counsel, particularly on the idea of using the $700 billion financial industry rescue fund, known as the Troubled Asset Relief Program, to help U.S. automakers.

"Congress never voted for a federal bailout of the automobile industry, and the only way for TARP funds to be diverted to domestic automakers is with explicit congressional approval," wrote 26 GOP lawmakers, led by Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas.

Seven Senate Republicans led by Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina fired off a similar missive saying that without restructuring, "we do not believe any amount of money will succeed in saving these companies."

The administration is weighing several options. They include using part of the $700 billion fund to provide loans to the carmakers, or using money from the fund as collateral for emergency loans the automakers could get from the Federal Reserve.

The White House has repeatedly said it wants to avoid a "disorderly bankruptcy" of any major automaker _ presumably a Chapter 7 filing that would effectively shut down the company and require a destructive liquidation of its assets.

But the administration has not taken off the table an aid package that could still force one or more companies to enter into a Chapter 11 bankruptcy, which would allow a carmaker to keep operating but put it under the purview of a court.

Among the White House's chief concerns is that any aid package it authorizes would not have the same force of law that a plan approved by Congress would have. The White House is researching ways to provide leverage to hold carmakers accountable for the money they get.

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Associated Press Writer Julie Hirschfeld Davis contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Conservative Republicans admonished the White House Tuesday not to use bank-bailout billions to rescue distressed U.S. automakers, and a key Democrat demanded the government get vet...
WASHINGTON — Conservative Republicans admonished the White House Tuesday not to use bank-bailout billions to rescue distressed U.S. automakers, and a key Democrat demanded the government get vet...
 
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I only need a billion. Where's the line for that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 12/16/2008
- getoffmedz I'm a Fan of getoffmedz 114 fans permalink
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This maladministration must be prevented from doing any more "tinkering" with OUR economy.

They precipitated this mess.

What makes anyone think these fools can fix it?

No one is going to take the impending misery and confusion due this spring lightly then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 12/16/2008

What a waste.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 12/16/2008

... so you'd rather see hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people out of work and 2 Great 2 Depressing on our hands? Stay classy, KillTheMessenger...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 12/16/2008

I'd like to see GM free of the entanglements of the UAW. It's the only way they will ever make it back into the black.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 12/17/2008
- Woggles I'm a Fan of Woggles 7 fans permalink

Can someone help me out here...Why are taxpayers bailing out - essentially a hedge fund?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 12/16/2008

Exactly.
That GM and Chrysler are chasing the same pot o dough baffles me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 12/16/2008
- getoffmedz I'm a Fan of getoffmedz 114 fans permalink
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What baffles me is that NO ONE appears to be willing to specify how those BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars are going to be used?

This stinks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 12/16/2008
- w8aminute I'm a Fan of w8aminute 19 fans permalink

Because it's Dan Quayle's hedge fund. It's one way for their base to quit losing more money . The loan isn't for the working class or the unions or all the local economies that would be wiped out. It's all about the rich - otherwise they wouldn't care one lick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 12/16/2008

That's the Seven billion dollar question, isn't it?

To learn more about the role GMAC losses in the mortgage market have impacted Cerberus' (Chrysler) and GM's automotive sector...

http://blogs.chron.com/lorensteffy/2008/12/how_the_senate.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 12/16/2008
- Peter007 I'm a Fan of Peter007 37 fans permalink
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I thought only the Congress could appropriate money. Was I wrong?. Why hasn't the Supreme court stepped in and given GM the money?
Is Bush going to give the auto makers money? Where is he going too get the cash from?.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 12/16/2008
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 204 fans permalink
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"They have the power of the cranky question"! I kid you not. Listen to the NPR's interview with Elizabeth Warren the head of the Congressional Oversight Panel:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98321019

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 12/16/2008
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Chinese needs to buy Chrysler, its a PRIVATE company and a bailout isnt necessary, sell it and save GM for high mpg and all electric mandated production.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 12/16/2008
- netzwerg I'm a Fan of netzwerg 18 fans permalink
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They are definately not interested.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 12/16/2008

Why would you want the Chinese to buy Chrysler? So we can just keep sending more and more money there? Yeah, gees, why would we want to keep profits in the US?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 12/16/2008
- Peter007 I'm a Fan of Peter007 37 fans permalink
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Profits ? What profits?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 12/16/2008
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 204 fans permalink
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They are smarter than that. ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 12/16/2008

Mandated production? nothankyou.jpg

Please look up the Trabant on Wikipedia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 12/16/2008
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Stop trying to make it look like you know what your doing and just pick one out of a hat.

And the winner is!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 12/16/2008
- Vinca I'm a Fan of Vinca 6 fans permalink

I UNDERSTAND BUSH SIGNED< DON'T TOUCH BONUS'S FOR WALL ST CEO'S< BUT GET SIGNIFIGANT CONCESSIONS, FROM AUTO WORKERS, WHAT DOES THAST TELL YOU?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 12/16/2008

What is it all about Alfie? GM Financial owns GM, GM Financial has $256 Billion in Assets give or thake a few Billion and Chysler is owned by Cerberus Financial and they have $100 Billion in Assets give or take a few Billion. Both GM Financial and Cerberus are profitable, why don't they bail themselves out? Ford owns Ford Financial which is the umbrella name for FCE Banks HQ in Essex UK and operates in 19 countries and has 30 + Billion in assets. Ford is bailing out Ford to their credit, GM and Chysler taking the taxpayers for a ride and protecting their own rears.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 12/16/2008

GM is the parent company, no one owns them, and they have no wholly owned credit arm. They own 49% of GMAC (Cerberus owns the rest).

Ford owns Ford Credit, but that's irrelevent because Ford isn't asking for funding at this time.

Technically most of the automakers foreign entities are legally separate companies. You cannot take foreign entities and just drag their assets all over the place. Nations do not allow that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 12/16/2008

In other words... this is all about bailing out Cerberus...

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 12/16/2008
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Bush has to do this now, or his failed legacy will include "President who killed the American auto industry."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 12/16/2008
- marew I'm a Fan of marew 10 fans permalink

That's silly. The auto industry did it to themselves through decades of greed, mismanagement, lousy cars (I've had a few), poor and arrogant customer service. They did to themselves. Funny, we have socialism to rescue big companies. But health care for everyone, extend unemployment benefits for the ordinary worker, lower taxes for the middle class and not the rich --- not a chance. The UAW is greedy and selfish, everyone is having a hard time but they won't give an inch. They have an extremely high absentee rate, cars bought by UAW members are noted as getting 'special attention' going through the line (yes, I know that for sure) while the rest are thrown together for everybody else. I will never buy an American car again. My Toyota's run great and I will always be loyal to the companies that are loyal to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 12/16/2008
- w8aminute I'm a Fan of w8aminute 19 fans permalink

Quit blaming the UAW....this isn't their fault. Keep buying your Toyota's - we don't care. All we care about is one out of ten jobs in this country disappearing.

Why don't you use the same venom towards our government and Wall Street? What about AIG - they received TEN TIMES as much in a handout- not a loan. And they are wasting it paying millions in 'retention' and other bonuses - in other words, rewarding failure. A guy making $28 and hour in a manufacturing job, or the people in the towns that the plants are in that survive on those workers are the ones that will hurt the most, not to mention the lack of local tax dollars coming into in all 50 states from dealerships. If Detroit didn't put out quality cars you wouldn't see so many of them on the road (I have 2). They were profitable, provide a service and tax dollars until the housing /gas crisis. It's those in Washington that are to blame. If they weren't greedy and de-regulated and stood by doing nothing during the housing bubble, our economy wouldn't be in the shape it's in and people could afford to buy cars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 12/16/2008

You know that for sure? Wow, that's pretty amazing, since I know that it isn't. There are certain cars that go through the plants that are order with certain upgrades, say extra coats of clear coats. But there is NO WAY you can tell who bought the car. And how would a UAW member be able to afford such an expensive car?
Also, the UAW has already given concession. It's hard working in the industry, you should try it sometime. They deserve health insurance or someone, such as my grandfather who has industrial cancer, would have to file bankruptcy to live.
And as for GM cars being so horrible, you probably didn't take of your car properly. That's why it didn't last. We have a 15 year old Silverado that is like new.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 12/16/2008

Agreed.
Which is why this is only enough dough to get them to January 20th.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 12/16/2008
- rogerse I'm a Fan of rogerse 4 fans permalink

Guess those corporate apologists will be happy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 12/16/2008
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