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In the new issue of Us Weekly (out Friday), Kelly Rutherford says she's preparing for the summer arrival of her second child with hubby Daniel Giersch -- and at the same time, breast-feeding 2-year-old son Hermes.
"It's an amazing bond with your child," says the Gossip Girl star, 40. "Some cultures do it up to five years, normally. I thought, 'Well, I'll just do it as long as it feels right for my son.'"
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Mijumom and Jillsond, might I suggest that you both rent out your services as wetnurses to Angelina Jolie.
You are relentlessly amusing and a real awful conversationalist. Too bad so many posts have been wasted trying to get through to you.
and yet here you are wasting your time responding to my comments.
AngryAmish - I get it now. You need to venture out of the "Entertainment" section once in a while. There are some major issues going on in the world that you could channel your anger into for positive change. Or, do just get your panties in a bunch over other moms choosing to breast feed?
He can't contribute to much outside his narrow, mysogynistic viewpoint. He'll just have to wait for a female celebrity homeschooler, or maybe a female celebrity womens' rights activist to make the news. Oh, there's Christy Turlington, go get 'er Amish.
I've devoted my life to helping poor people, for a very low salary. What have you done with yours, besides birthing children?
Oh my!
Ahem, someone who devotes his life to the homeless, yet ridicules breastfeeding. Right. That's like saying you're a gardener, but don't believe in watering plants. I gotta hand it to you, freaky, you've fulfilled my interest in the macabre for a long time to come.
Tell me: which school of feminism do you and Jill subscribe to? Radical feminism? Liberal feminism? Essentialist feminism? I'd really like to know so that I could engage you in a discussion of the relative merits and shortcomings of all three ideologies.
Yawn. You can't even defend your stance on how long a woman should breastfeed. If you cared about women and womens' rights, you would never have made such ludicrous statements about what a woman chooses to do with her body.
People who are altruistic and dedicate their lives to helping others typically don't boast about their good acts, they're just good. You project anger and ha te and in tolerance ad nauseum. You are no humanitarian, Angry, you're just angry.
What the f**k is your problem? I'm a a mom who happens to think that it is perfectly normal for women to breast-feed. I am not playing your juvenile game. You appear to be a real d**k antagonizing and taunting fellow posters because they (we) happen to have a f***ing positive opinion about someone.
You come off as quite the freak at this point and given how much time you spend in the entertainment section here, I'm getting the idea you may be better off on Perez Hilton or TMZ.
dixie cousins can do whatever the hell she wants.
I just don't see the purpose of this. I can understand while the child is still an infant and too young for food but when the can get the necessary nutrients from food, then the breastfeeding becomes less about feeding the child and more about validating the mother's worth.
As for people who breast feed their children until they are five... Ok. In that case, why not also follow the groups that refuse to touch women in case they are "unclean" or circumcize women or stone women for walking wihtout their faces covered or base their dietary restrictions on archaic food handling issues or put their children to work once they are done with 8th grade or ... or... or.
How does someone's decision to nurse their child, beyond what you deem necessary, affect your life?
Talk about stoning someone for a rather personal decision.
The purpose is that it was she feels is best for her child. That you think it is about "validating the mother's worth" really displays some serious assuming on your part. Perhaps she feels that her child benefits from the experience and the nutrients, I know I did.
I just can't get over how presumptuous and judgmental people are here. Don't you have real jerks to go after? Other than nursing mothers who choose to nurse longer than you think is necessary.
You're being disingenuous. You're an upper-middle-class American woman dispensing mothering advice to other American women, many of whom don't have your advantages in terms of time and money. Primitive cultures? Please.
I suspect CKieffer and Angry are the same person. They sound alike. Anyhoo, mij, if you go through this thread you'll see a marked difference in how this whole trainwreck progressed. You graciously offered informed, thoughtful explanations while those who belittled or ridiculed breastfeeding simply spewed ignor ant, disrespectful blather. Some people simply get off on causing others discomfort. They lack intellectual curiosity and are incapable of a grown-up debate. Therapy is out of the question for these types, 'cause they know more than the therapist.
It's cool, though, mij, you rock. Don't let the a55holes and j3rks get you down!
Long-term breastfeeding is a luxury of the upper-middle-class.
Great logic. There are no women at the poverty level breastfeeding their children beyond your idea of what is enough.
Are you nuts? Long-term breast-feeding is the norm in most primitive cultures. Ever notice that you don't have to buy anything to breast-feed? Wow, this conversation has really digressed. The needless judgments and insults abound from those who for some reason have a grudge against breast-feeders. Isn't there some cause that is more worthy of your passion and attention?
Question to those who have deemed nursing a toddler unacceptable- What the heck is it to you?
And if you are one who has felt judged or demeaned by others for not breast-feeding, isn't it a**-backwards for you to come here and do the same exact thing to someone else.
This is not high school. Can't you just get a grip and accept that it works for her family and has nothing to do with the validity of you or your choices?
Thank you. Beautifully said.
Again, I have no problem with breastfeeding, but I think that it is probably no longer necessary after the baby is 6 months to a year old. Yes, I am one of the bad ones as I bottle fed my kids. My doctor had to throw the lactation experts out of my hospital room after I had my first child. Their harassment was shameless, trying to make me feel like a bad mother for choosing to bottle feed, rather than watch my baby starve because my body wasn't producing milk at the time. Truth be told, I didn't want to nurse anyway. I am not comfortable with letting it all hang out there, and I hired a baby nurse to do the late night feedings anyway.
Uhg. Where the H did you give birth? Breastfeeding advocates don't storm birthing rooms and "shame" mothers into breastfeeding. They're there to coach and assist those who aren't sure of what's going on. You didn't want to nurse to begin with, bottom line. So what? It's your decision. Quit pushing your intolerance on others who do choose to do so.
I agree that any "help" that comes off as harassment is unacceptable. However, it is not for you to declare whether it is necessary to breast-feed after a year. The World Health Organization recommends longer. Why the heck would it bother you if someone feels it is beneficial to their child, beneficial to their relationship or they just plain want to do it?
You are going off about someone else's choice while you are so offended that others did not respect yours.
I'd like to seriously recommend you consider therapy to work through your trauma as it seems you really have an axe to grind. I am sorry that it was so difficult for you.
I'm sorry you were in the hospital for so long. I know long hospital stays can be rough. That said, it generally takes several days for a mother's milk to come in. In my case, nearly five. Luckily by then I was already discharged and was at home when the milk train finally arrived. My babies were just fine until then, as they're designed to not need much more than a very little bit the first few days.
As a general rule, if the kid is old enough to unbutton Mommy’s blouse and remove her bra, he’s old enough to be taken off the teet.
I agree with you. I recently got into the elevator in my building with a 4 year old and his very pregnant mother. He kept on trying to grab at her boobs and saying, "mmmmmmmm mommy I want, I'm hungry." And she said, "honey, later, when we get upstairs." It was gross. This woman, bless her soul was soon going to be nursing a newborn and 4 year old simultaneously. I think that is nuts!
Perfectly illustrates your hypocrisy. You resent others for having judged you and making you feel bad, yet you refer to another person's choice as "nuts".
Come on, why don't you try giving others the acceptance that you are so obviously craving. Aren't there people doing worse things than breast-feeding that warrant your hostility being directed at them?
As a general rule, every comment you make about breastfeeding is degrading and mea n-spirited.
For anyone who is considering breastfeeding, please ignore people like Angry, who are so out of touch with nature and their own bodies that they feel the need to impose their twisted views on others.
Breastfeeding is a natural, wonderful, beautiful thing. Educate yourselves.
That's right, moms. And if your work schedule prevents you from breastfeeding, or if your baby doesn't take to it (as some babies don't), you are unnatural, despicable, and ugly.
And who deemed you the decider of what the "general rule" is?
You're a nasty little ex-amish aren't you?
Snap! There are organizations that deal soley with women having trouble breastfeeding. Some have psychological problems, some physiological, and they need assistance.
Then you have people like Angry who like to perpetuate some feeble-brained notion that breastfeeding, and I don't care how long a woman chooses to do so, is unnatural or unbecoming.
But Happy Meals? Bring 'em on!
2 years old? Doesn't a baby have teeth by then?
No kidding. That has to hurt.
You obviously have no clue. You are of course entitled to your opinion but what is your interest in posting here since it obviously is not an issue that you have any direct knowledge about? Just wondering.
I nursed my oldest til she was one. The second one til she was two. But I thought if you got pregnant you had to stop nursing because it causes uterine contractions that could make you lose the baby you were carrying. My oldest sister got pregnant while nursing and had to quit.
Nope, I know 3 people who nursed through their pregnancies and babies were born full term (40 + weeks) and perfectly fine.
Depends on the woman and the circumstances.
My mom's breastfeeding me while I type this.
Me too.
But she makes me remove my uppers and lowers before I latch on.
what's to talk about.. it's a pretty straight forward process.
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Yay!!! The longer the better (all things considered). How come people don't cringe at toddlers eating junk food constantly but bother to make negative comments about a mother breast feeding? The World Health Organization recommends 2 years, yep, more of a good thing is...a good thing.
That is such an excellent point. We have to pass laws that "allow" a mother to FEED HER KID IN PUBLIC yet it's no big deal to see a kid drinking a soda or eating junk. This country is so backwards on some things. I shake my head and wonder...
It is pretty astounding that people would have anything negative to say about such a non-issue but, alas, people have something negative to say about nearly everything.
Give me a break. There is something very unseemly about a kid with a full set of teeth suckling his mother.
How about that it is none of your business and that I think there is something "unseemly" about a "kid with a full set of teeth" chomping on jawbreakers until their mouths are stained blue. I keep my mouth shut and let them go about their business, why don't you?
kid to mom, 'hey mom is it lunch time yet, i'm hungry'.
i am now somewhat ill
Whatever works but the kid is not going to give it up voluntarily. he has to be weaned and 2 I think is a bit too long.
Medical folks out there, I thought that breastfeeding was a natural form of birth control as it tells your body not to get pregnant as you aren’t ready for a new child. Why is she pregnant?
Because it only works for a limited amount of time and is different for each woman.
You go, miju. I nursed my daughters to 2 yrs, and still nursing my 17 mo. old son. He's never been sick. Both girls rarely get colds and do really well in school.
Completely and totally a MYTH. You will not get your monthly but you will be fertile. It is always one of the main topics at your first checkup with your health care provider after giving birth to make sure that you have some form of birth control.
Disclaimer: I am not a medical provider. I am a mother of two who nursed both kids.
Trust me, I have friends who got pregnant the first time they got back to business after having a kid. The idea that breastfeeding is natural birth control is just a myth.
Actually, it's not a myth----it's just usually not well understood or implemented. A woman has to be EXCLUSIVELY breastfeeding ON DEMAND to prevent ovulation (it's a hormonal thing---the chemical that continues breastfeeding also prevents ovulation). Many women will be breastfeeding a few times a day, or beginning to wean, but still assume they're not going to ovulate.
You cannot "be fertile but not have your monthly"---what happens is that the first time a woman ovulates, she gets pregnant before ever having the period after she ovulated. It does not mean she was fertile the whole time----your luteal phase (the time after you ovulate before your period arrives) is usually set, doesn't change. 14 days average. If she ovulated and didn't get pregnant, she WOULD have a period after 14-ish days, there's just no two ways about that.
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First Posted: 12-17-08 12:17 PM | Updated: 01-17-09 05:12 AM