NRO's York Compares Blago Probe To Plamegate

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First Posted: 12-17-08 11:52 AM   |   Updated: 01-17-09 05:12 AM

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I guess that from here until December 22nd, when the Obama transition team is due to release their who-contacted-who report in accordance with Patrick Fitzgerald's instructions, we're simply going to have to suffer through an ever-increasing level of hallucinatory speculation on how the Blagojevich probe could prove to be bad for the Obama presidency, if only the current set of facts could replaced by a yet-to-materialize, alternate set of more damaging facts. I think it's best to approach these speculations in the same way one might approach television fanfiction -- those alternate story lines of popular TV shows written by shut-ins who want to see their favorite characters making out with each other all the time.

The latest, greatest example comes from Byron York at the National Review, who says: "You don't think the Blagojevich matter could cause trouble for Obama? Then you haven't looked closely enough at the Plame affair." Oh, sweet mercy! This one's gonna be good:

We don't know the extent of the investigation into Blagojevich's allegedly corrupt dealings. Have witnesses been brought before a grand jury? We don't know. If so, who are they? We don't know. What witnesses have been interviewed by FBI agents working for Fitzgerald? We don't know. Do Fitzgerald and his investigators have any doubts about the truthfulness of those who have talked? We don't know.


But we do know that something big is going on.

Do we? Those wiretap transcripts don't just read like American Buffalo, they frankly bespeak a body of wrongdoing that's so similarly small-time. Not to underplay the importance of the probe to residents of the state of Illinois, but thus far, the Blago case lacks the complexity and the stakes of the Plame-Libby investigation. It's pretty easy to grasp what Blago was up to where Obama's Senate seat was concerned -- he was basically auctioning it off to the highest bidder. The Plame case was about covert agents and press leaks and unknown sources and backroom skullduggery between multiple parties and an overarching question over whether something akin to treason happened.

Plamegate was a sprawling, complex, and, at times, confusing case. By contrast, the Blago matter is tawdry, shiny, and filled with an interesting array of colorful profanity, but I think it's premature to call it "big." Face it, if the press lacked their thin premise to indulge in a body of speculative Obama wrongdoing, no one outside of Illinois would be covering the story. (And the press has all but ignored the most complicated and statutorily substantive allegation against Blago -- his kickback shakedown of Chicago's Children's Memorial Hospital.)

York continues:

Fitzgerald and his team have a lot of wiretap material. That has likely given them a lot of information to ask witnesses about. Some of those witnesses may be members of the Obama transition team. For example, the Chicago Tribune recently reported that "communications between [incoming White House chief of staff Rahm] Emanuel and the Blagojevich administration were captured on court-approved wiretaps." Emanuel might be asked many questions, under penalty of perjury or false-statement charges. Prosecutors will compare his answers to what they have on tape. Perhaps they'll invite him in for another session of questioning. Then they'll compare his answers in the second session to his answers in the first. Perhaps they'll repeat that a few times. As anyone in the Bush administration could advise Emanuel, it doesn't matter if he did anything wrong or not. He just better have his answers in order.

Look, here's how this column reads: "We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. Maybe. May. Might. Perhaps. Perhaps." Well, what can I say? York's logic is maybe maybe might be perhaps maybe impeccable! He, and I, don't know.

I guess that from here until December 22nd, when the Obama transition team is due to release their who-contacted-who report in accordance with Patrick Fitzgerald's instructions, we're simply going to ...
I guess that from here until December 22nd, when the Obama transition team is due to release their who-contacted-who report in accordance with Patrick Fitzgerald's instructions, we're simply going to ...
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- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 76 fans permalink
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RIDICULOUS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 12/18/2008
- MBryant I'm a Fan of MBryant 21 fans permalink
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Ahem...

Headlines are saying this is or that is the "first challenge" - "greatest challenge" of the Obama Presidency...

Have the blogo-journalists forgotten that the guy doesn't take the oath for another month? Mr. Obama is not the President, He's not even the Jr. Senator from New York anymore. He's still the President - elect.

I guess if you run an Obama headline every day and you've already predicted (mostly wrong) and reviewed his cabinet and White House picks, previewed his inauguration speech, written three pieces about the dog he doesn't yet have and analyzed his lack of facial hair you have no choice but just skip the ceremony and start writing about the administration.

At this rate- the articles about his re-election will appear in mid to late summer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 12/18/2008
- Okieborn I'm a Fan of Okieborn 59 fans permalink

I would love to see Valerie Plame as CIA Head !!
This lady would do some real investigating for this Great Nation !!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 12/18/2008
- BSERIUS I'm a Fan of BSERIUS 8 fans permalink

Gotta feeling some big Dems are going to do a lot more prison time for a lot more serious offenses than a guy named Scooter did for outing a desk jockey

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 12/18/2008

Irving 'Scooter' Libby outed clandestine operative Plame. She was working on a program to determine Iran's nuclear capabilities. When Scooter, who was Cheneys secretary,outed Ms. Plame he outed Brewster Jennings,a C.I.A. cover company. When he did that he outed that organization and every one associated with it. Probably lives were lost as a result of his actions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 12/18/2008
- Okieborn I'm a Fan of Okieborn 59 fans permalink

Valerie Plame "SHOULD" head the CIA !!!
No If ANDS or Buts About It !!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 12/18/2008
- MelDel7365 I'm a Fan of MelDel7365 19 fans permalink

Oh for crying out loud -- Really??

The Republicans are despirite for a scandal and the media's breathless reporting on this ridiculousness while the country's economy melts, we fight two wars, and unemployment is soaring is not helping.

The media needs to stop feeding this monster until they have all the facts -- and that is going to require them to start behaving like journalists -- research the story and report it when they have the facts to back up what they are reporting.

Seriously - less than a month after this whole thing broke the press will get the report - what is the big problem - it's nothing like anything the Bush administration has done. Obama is being far more transparent - it is incredibly intellectually dishonest to assert that Obama is acting like the Bush administration and I think that those in the press that hysterically make accusations are acting unethically -- in effect - what they are saying is "you give us the information right now, this minute so that we can sell newspapers or soap or whatever product is supporting the newscast -- OR we will just wildly speculate and report to the nation that you are corrupt as G.W. Bush.

I hope that the media spends as many weeks reporting on how wrong they got it when the report comes out as they did gossiping about it before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 12/18/2008

The main page headline metaphor is an exercise in pundit-laden nerdaliciousness! Go outside and breath fresh air. Wow

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 12/18/2008
- jackstpaul I'm a Fan of jackstpaul 8 fans permalink

I'm sure it's going over well with many Bush supporters for York to bring up one of the uglier episodes of the Bush Presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 AM on 12/18/2008

Oh come on, it's laughable to even make a comparison.

Right - state governor / senate appointment corruption bearing any resemblance in magnitude whatsoever to the vice president of the united states committing freakin' TREASON by outing a covert intelligence agent.

Heavy sigh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 12/17/2008
- OlskoolDem I'm a Fan of OlskoolDem 3 fans permalink

during time of War,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 12/17/2008
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Wasn't she concentrating on Weapons of Mass Destruction and Iran?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 12/18/2008
- timothyi I'm a Fan of timothyi 2 fans permalink

Yes, she was. And for those dittoheads who maintain that she wasn't covert: her own chain of command (including Bushg appointees) stated under oath that she was a covert agent, and that outing her identity caused an entire chain of weapons-related investigation to be cancelled.

This was treason. And if a dem had done it the repubes would be screaming treason, none louder than the Limbaughs and Coulters of the world who say what scooter did was just peachy keen. But to them it's much more important to defend their party than to defend the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 12/18/2008
- RonNYC I'm a Fan of RonNYC 16 fans permalink
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who cares. this whole thing is a dumb distraction.
none of the reporters have any quality questions for the cabinet picks.
what a joke. elvis is turning over in his grave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 12/17/2008

Bailout Fatigue! watch Out! It's Contagious!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 12/17/2008
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if they want to draw parallels, let them. At the end of the day he's still the president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 12/17/2008

obama is wetting his pants about what's on those tapes. Who will he have to throw under the bus this time? to believe he sat on the Illinois political pews for twenty years and did know how blago rolled is pretty far fetched. It's amusing how dems like to say what a bum blago is without explaining how he got to be governor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 12/17/2008
- slarabee I'm a Fan of slarabee 25 fans permalink
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Obama isn't even concerned about this.
Beat the drum all you want but the public will not be distracted from the huge mess Bush has created by a minor scandal in Illinois. In fact most of I think do not give a s**t about Blago at all. I know I am already sick of hearing about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 12/17/2008
- 11907281 I'm a Fan of 11907281 14 fans permalink
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When old Newt says you'll look like a fool for going after this, take his advice. Or better yet, don't take his advice and nominate Palin for 2012.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 12/17/2008
- thaneb I'm a Fan of thaneb 11 fans permalink
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And should your speculation prove unfounded, you will do the honorable thing and admit you were wrong, correct?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 12/17/2008
- timothyi I'm a Fan of timothyi 2 fans permalink

Riiiight. Bush is presiding over the death of our economy, and Cheney just admitted on national TV that he approved torture. I guess if this is all you have....good luck with that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 12/18/2008
- MIVOTE I'm a Fan of MIVOTE 112 fans permalink
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"Look, here's how this column reads: "We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. Maybe. May. Might. Perhaps. Perhaps." Well, what can I say? York's logic is maybe maybe might be perhaps maybe impeccable! He, and I, don't know."

Enough said!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 12/17/2008

I totally agree !

I find it amazing that so many are willing to speculate and analyze "hot air." Until the FACTS start to come out -- let's discuss how Bush and Cheney are trying to "revisionize" history -- I believe that FACT is an important news story.....not speculations about HOT AIR.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 12/17/2008

If they mean to say they are both ultimately about nothing of consequence in relation to the presidents or their administrations so that's true. We'll see what the Blogo facts are soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 12/17/2008
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