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JENNIFER LOVEN | December 18, 2008 10:06 PM EST | AP

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President George W. Bush answers a question during a meeting of the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, in Washington, Thursday, Dec. 18, 2008. "Under normal circumstances, no question bankruptcy court is the best way to work through credit and debt and restructuring," Bush said of the U.S. auto industry at AEI. "These aren't normal circumstances. That's the problem." (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — The Bush administration is looking at "orderly" bankruptcy as a possible way to deal with the desperately ailing U.S. auto industry, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said Thursday as carmakers readied more plant closings and a half million new jobless claims underscored the deteriorating national economy.

With General Motors, Chrysler and the rest of Detroit anxiously awaiting a White House decision on billions of dollars in emergency federal loans, Paulson said bankruptcy for Detroit automakers should be avoided if possible but that an orderly reorganization may be the best option to keep them from collapsing.

"If the right outcome is reorganization or bankruptcy, then isn't it better to get there through an orderly process?" Paulson said in a speech to a business forum Thursday night in New York.

Paulson said it was too risky to simply let the automakers fail.

"When you look at the size of this industry and look at all those that it touches in terms of suppliers and dealers ... it would seem to be an imprudent risk to take," he said.

President George W. Bush, asked earlier about an auto bailout, said he hadn't decided what he would do but didn't want to leave a mess for Barack Obama who takes office a month from Saturday. A White House decision on helping the troubled automakers could come as early as Friday.

Bush, like Paulson, spoke of the idea of bankruptcies orchestrated by the federal government as a possible way to go _ without committing to it.

"Under normal circumstances, no question bankruptcy court is the best way to work through credit and debt and restructuring," he said during a speech and question-and-answer session at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative Washington think tank. "These aren't normal circumstances. That's the problem."

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Paulson said Bush wants to avoid automakers filing for bankruptcy protection but that the No. 1 priority is putting automakers back on a viable path. Part of that effort, he said, would require all sides coming together to make sacrifices to boost competitiveness.

"It's difficult to do such things outside of reorganization. But sometimes that can be successfully done," Paulson said.

White House press secretary Dana Perino addressed the bankruptcy question earlier in the day and emphasized there were still several possible approaches to assisting the automakers, including short-term loans from the Treasury Department's $700 billion Wall Street bailout program.

The Big Three automakers said anew that bankruptcy wasn't the answer, as did an official of the United Auto Workers who called the idea unworkable and even dangerous. GM said a report that it and Chrysler had restarted talks to combine was untrue.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Capitol Hill that grim new unemployment data heightened the urgency for the administration "to prevent the imminent insolvency of the domestic auto industry."

The California Democrat said Bush has the legal authority to act now, and should attach the accountability standards that were included in a $14 billion House-passed and Bush-supported carmaker bailout that died in the Senate last week. That plan would have given the government, through a Bush-appointed "car czar," veto power over major business decisions at any auto company that received federal loans.

Pelosi spoke after the government announced that initial claims for unemployment benefits totaled a seasonally adjusted 554,000 last week.

The comments in Washington came a day after Chrysler LLC announced it was closing all its North American manufacturing plants for at least a month as it, General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co. await word on government action. General Motors also has been closing plants, and it and Chrysler have said they might not have enough money to pay their bills in a matter of weeks.

Separately, there were worries that GMAC LLC, which provides financing for GM vehicle and dealer loans along with home mortgages, could be forced to file for bankruptcy itself. GMAC was having trouble finding adequate support from its bondholders for a debt transaction that would allow it to become a bank holding company and gain eligibility for the $700 billion rescue package.

Prices of GM and Ford stocks fell sharply Thursday after the remarks out of the White House. Ford, unlike General Motors and Chrysler, is not seeking billions in federal bailout loans, but a collapse of the other two could hurt Ford as well.

Alan Reuther, the United Auto Workers' legislative director, said the union urged the administration during a meeting this week to follow the provisions included in the House-passed auto aid bill.

"It's our hope that the House bill that was passed is what they will use as a guide, so to speak, when they start releasing funds," UAW President Ron Gettelfinger told WXYZ-TV in Detroit.

Congressional aides in both parties who have been closely following the discussions suggested the talk of bankruptcy could be a tactic to extract more hefty concessions from the companies and union in exchange for granting short-term loans from Treasury's financial industry rescue fund.

Perino said one factor preventing an announcement of action by the administration is that discussions continue with the various sides that would have to sign on to a managed bankruptcy _ entities such as labor and equity holders in addition to the companies themselves.

A senior administration official said the talks between Bush officials and the Big Three and their stakeholders amount to information-gathering, not negotiating.

The White House has repeatedly emphasized its opposition to "disorderly bankruptcy" _ presumably a Chapter 7 filing that would effectively shut down a company and require liquidation of assets. That has left on the table the possibility of forcing one or more automakers into a Chapter 11 bankruptcy, which allows a firm to keep operating while under a court's purview.

Harlan Platt, who teaches corporate turnarounds at Northeastern University in Boston, said the government may be waiting for an offer of an ownership stake in the companies, much as it received in return for capital plowed into banks. "You really have to ask the question: If this is good enough for Wall Street, why isn't it good enough for Detroit?" he said.

On Thursday, spokesmen for Chrysler, GM and Ford generally referred to their previous comments that bankruptcy was not a workable solution. The car companies argue that no one would buy a vehicle from a bankrupt company for fear that the company might not be around to honor warranties.

"We continue to work with the administration to find a solution to this liquidity crisis," said GM spokesman Tony Cervone.

Chrysler spokeswoman Shawn Morgan noted previous statements against bankruptcy by CEO Robert Nardelli. Financing even a prepackaged bankruptcy would be difficult in the current tight credit market, Chrysler has said.

Cerberus Capital Management LP owns 80.1 percent of Chrysler and a 51 percent stake in GMAC. The New York private equity firm has said its investors are composed of pension funds, university endowments and family investors who are limited in the amount of additional money they can provide to Chrysler.

The National Automobile Dealers Association also spoke out against bankruptcy for car companies "in any way shape or form, orderly or disorderly, prepackaged or unpackaged, managed or unmanaged," said spokesman Bailey Wood.

Bush said the auto industry is "obviously very fragile" and he is worried about what an out-and-out collapse without Washington involvement "would do to the psychology" of the markets.

"There still is a lot of uncertainty," he said.

At the same time, the president said anew that he is worried about "putting good money after bad," meaning taxpayer dollars shouldn't be used to prop up companies that can't survive the long term.

He revealed one other consideration _ that Obama will become president in just over a month.

"I thought about what it would be like for me to become president during this period. I believe that good policy is not to dump him a major catastrophe on his first day in office," Bush said.

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Associated Press writers Julie Hirschfeld Davis and Ken Thomas in Washington, Tom Krisher and David Goodman in Detroit and Bree Fowler and Stevenson Jacobs in New York contributed to this story.

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HuffPo, nobody does a better job than you do of burying the lead in a story. Tell me please, where was the mention of the GM electric car plant to be closed down? I gave up in detail boredom before I ever read it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 12/20/2008
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 136 fans permalink

I couldn't find it either. A recurring problem with Huffpo leads.

On another matter, I read recently that Toyota has cancelled plans to open a new Prius plant in Mississippi because of the lack of demand. Also, I read in a Japanese paper that Nissan and Toyota are both supporting the idea of a bailout for the Detroit automakers, as crucial to maintaining the American economy. They figure that if Detroit goes under, their American suppliers will stop deliveries of parts, and fewer Americans will be able to afford their cars.

I wish someone would tell the Southern Republicans that the Japanese are now behind the idea of a bailout for Detroit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 AM on 12/22/2008

"I believe that good policy is not to dump him a major catastrophe on his first day in office" -Too Late, you already did

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 12/19/2008

construction staffing companies have the unique ability to help contractors turn a profit, skilled tradesmen travel the country to work various commercial and industrial construction jobs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 12/19/2008
- bob8jv I'm a Fan of bob8jv 4 fans permalink

After, Bush and his Administration collected a lot of information regarding prewar Iraq and the Auto big three bailout. Bush was able to make an extremely fast decision on invading Iraq, and an extremely slow decision on the Auto big three bailout. Bush has caused enough pain for our country and globally. The world has two great events to calibrate on Jan. 20, 2009, Obama becoming our president, and president Bush taking a long walk home. God bless America. Jan 20th will be a great day for America and the World.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 AM on 12/19/2008
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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KillTheMessenger = GOP Congressman???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 12/19/2008

Find a GOP Congressman who can talk about general relativity and electronics design and you got something.

I am waiting.

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 AM on 12/19/2008

Congressman Vernon J. Ehlers:
PhD in nuclear physics from UC Berkeley.

I'm not a republican nor do I know representative Ehlers. I just figured it would take 5 seconds on google to answer your question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 12/19/2008
- KarenT I'm a Fan of KarenT 97 fans permalink

Not that i think it will help but I feel I need to do something as my husband and I will lose all of our income if GM and Chrysler are not bailed out and we do not work for the companies. I've already written to Carl Levin, Jennifer Granholm and Debbie Stabenow but they already understand the devestation. I'd like to write or call the White House tomorrow. Anyone ever do this? what is the best way to get a message to Bush? Again, I know he doesn't care but I guess I at least will feel like I tried.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 12/18/2008
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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Not only do they not care, they delete opposition anything unread

Inflicting pain on humanity is the GOP goal

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 12/19/2008
- KarenT I'm a Fan of KarenT 97 fans permalink

My failure? The economy is taking a huge dump affecting millions of businesses going under. i am still surviving in the worst industry in this country and I'm a failure? This will be my last time commenting on any of your posts. You are simply one huge jerk that comes on Huffpo to antagonize people. Get a life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 12/19/2008

In other words Karen, you expect all of us to pay for your failure?

Way to go dear, way to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 12/19/2008
- KarenT I'm a Fan of KarenT 97 fans permalink

Sorry Rich...thi­s was meant for KTM

My failure? The economy is taking a huge dump affecting millions of businesses going under. i am still surviving in the worst industry in this country and I'm a failure? This will be my last time commenting on any of your posts. You are simply one huge jerk that comes on Huffpo to antagonize people. Get a life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 12/19/2008
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There's a lot of blame to go around here. No one is immune especially every republican who over the years fought every attempt to force the auto companies to make high mileage vehicles that everyone wanted.
Regardless, our country is in peril and our manufacturing base has been eviscerated by decades of unfair, fair trade policies that let us sell out to our manufacturing base to our mortgage holder, the chinese communist government who turned out to be better capitalists than we ever were.
The auto companies have made some mistakes and have thwarted efforts towards innovation through the years but this affair is little more than the republicans last try at busting the unions in this country and they are willing to completely destroy our economy and way of life to get it done. They preach about noninterference in the lives of ordinary americans but they do the opposite every time and do everything they can to work against what we want. From gay rights to unions, the republicans are the enemy of the american people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 12/18/2008
- kstuff I'm a Fan of kstuff 5 fans permalink

Perhaps we should've just let the Southern States secede. The North is sick of hearing the anti-union song of the South. We've got it. You don't support unions. Now stop using all of our federal tax dollars to fill-in the gaps created by non-livable wages. That means you, Alabama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 12/18/2008
- kstuff I'm a Fan of kstuff 5 fans permalink

Aspen? You've got to be kidding me. What decade are you living in?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 12/18/2008
- pharm I'm a Fan of pharm 4 fans permalink

UAW labor accounts for 10% of the cost of each vehicle, including pensions and health care for retirees. Transplant labor accounts for 8% of labor costs, with virtually no retirees. They didn`t build here till the mid and late 80`s, so they have no legacy costs yet. Almost half of foreign cars sold in this country are still from overseas, and the only place whose wages approximate ours is Germany. They have already given "bailout' money to VW. The Swedes have given to their auto manufacturers, as have the Chinese and Koreans. The Japanese have traditionally backed their manufacturers in every way possible. This is the only country that has consistently failed to back it`s manufacturers in relation to fair(except for Canada, we don`t have any!) trade and foreign protectionist policies. GM, and Ford trucks are still number 1 and 2 in vehicle sales in the U.S., how can anybody say they don`t make vehicles anybody wants? Half the vehicles sold are domestic. The UAW is a convenient scapegoat for all the industries problems. They are by no means blame free, but to read the posts here, they are the one and only problem. That is unfair, and just plain stupid!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 12/18/2008
- KarenT I'm a Fan of KarenT 97 fans permalink

Thanks for an insightful post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 12/18/2008

"The Swedes have given to their auto manufacturers"

Swedish car manufacturers have been bought by Ford and GM. So the Swedes are really supporting our car companies.

"as have the Chinese "

Did you ever see a Chinese car on a US highway?

"and Koreans."

So you can buy cheap Kias and Hyundais..­.

"The Japanese have traditionally backed their manufacturers in every way possible."

Except that there is not a single proof for that to be found... if you have it, please post it. I keep asking for it but nobody seems to be able to come up with anything. You are simply repeating the nonsense that was put out by US car companies to make you believe they are victims of a non-existent Japanese industrial policy.

"GM, and Ford trucks are still number 1 and 2 in vehicle sales in the U.S"

And every single one of them is sold at a loss. You seem to fail to understand that the goal of being in business is to make money. The goal is not to be the biggest loser like GM.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 12/19/2008
- pharm I'm a Fan of pharm 4 fans permalink

If the credit was there they would sell. The Japanese manipulate their currency, like the Chinese, to help all their industries, they have national health care, and a system of social security. Trucks at GM and Ford are their money makers, not losers. The Swedes gave money to help Saab and Volvo already, you can look it up. GM and Ford do not fully own either of those companies. Who cares if there is a Chinese car on the road, the post was to make a point that other countries support their industries, unlike ours. By the way, part of the Japanese policy is to put 25 to 30% tariffs on our autos when we try to sell there. Over here they have been selling them since the 70`s for less than the cost to make and ship them here, "dumping". Our government has condoned this for 40 years, to the detriment of our auto industry. If you truly believe that the Japanese government does not bend over backwards in every way possible, including monetarily, to help their manufacturers, you are sadly mistaken. We have rice we could sell there, cheaper and safer than their home grow crop, but we are not allowed by the Japanese government. Just another example.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 12/19/2008

Great Christmas break for UAW employees. Get to spend some time with their kids in Aspen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 12/18/2008

Because the same radio stations that hyped everyone up on Iraqi WMDs are again promoting anger. Talk radio hosts raise their voice and get emotional as they mis-represent the UAW and auto industry.

For example, if you ever worked on the auto assembly line, then you would know you can not stop working for 20 seconds or your part of the job won't get done and there will be Hell to pay down the line as other workers will not be able to do their part. On the talk radio I hear about lazy UAW workers which is impossible when you are on the line.

This same talk radio media bias that brought you Bush, the Iraq war, the patriot act, now is attacking the very workers that believed their prior lies. Obama needs to regulate the media and make it free from the Bush evil doers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 12/18/2008
- rkimball I'm a Fan of rkimball 4 fans permalink

put some of these idled ford workers in some of the shut down ford plants in mexico. they have been working overtime & want some time off. of course the unions will have to settle for $2 dollars a day in mexico.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 12/18/2008
- Binckeslaw I'm a Fan of Binckeslaw 5 fans permalink

Todays Bloomberg website includes a story that GM has increased production in Mexico in 2008 by 5% while reducing production in the US by 30%. GM has spent 3.6 billion upgrading its Mexican plants in the last several years. A Mexican auto worker makes about $3.00 per hour in wages. An American autoworker makes a little more than $25.00 in wages. All the recent events in our economy seem targeted to flatten the American working class. Part of a plan you think? Part of a class war you think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 12/18/2008

First smart thing I hear about that GM has done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 12/18/2008
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 136 fans permalink

Sounds like GM is only thinking about quarterly profits. In the long run, there has to be a strong middle class in this country that can afford to buy the products GM wants to sell, and that means there have to be good jobs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 AM on 12/22/2008
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I spoke to a family member last night(GM retiree) and was informed that the hourly employees recieved their full christmas bonus this year per the union contract.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 12/18/2008
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