Top US general in Iraq prepares for troop decision

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CHELSEA J. CARTER | December 21, 2008 04:31 PM EST | AP

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In this Sep. 16, 2008 file photo, Gen. Ray Odierno listens to a question during a press briefing at camp Victory in Baghdad, Iraq. American troops will move into southern Iraq early next year to replace departing British forces, Odierno, the top U.S. general in Iraq said. The news came as Iraq's parliament rejected a draft law requiring all foreign troops other than Americans to depart before the end of July 2009. Britain says its 4,000 troops will withdraw from the southern port city of Basra by the end of May.(AP Photo/Dusan Vranic, Pool)

BASRA, Iraq — The top U.S. general in Iraq said he will make a decision about the future role of American troops in early spring, to allow enough time to address any violence that may arise from January's provincial elections.

Army Gen. Ray Odierno told The Associated Press that the two-month period after the election will allow U.S. troops and Iraqi security forces to ensure those legitimately elected can take office. He also said U.S. troops will move into southern Iraq early next year to replace departing British forces.

"So we have to make sure in the election those who didn't win understand that, and we will be able to seat the new government properly," Odierno, the overall commander of U.S. and allied forces in Iraq, told AP late Saturday. "And once we get to that point, it's now time for us to take a look at what is right for the future."

Violence is dropping sharply throughout the country _ an Iraqi military official said Sunday that murder rates have returned to pre-war levels.

Military officials say Odierno has already outlined for Pentagon leaders a withdrawal plan that would pull thousands of troops out of Iraq early next year but move more cautiously than the 16-month timetable pledged by President-elect Barack Obama.

"I expect we will start to thin our forces in '09. It's the right time to do that," he said. "We will do it in a deliberate, careful way to make sure we have enough combat power to support the Iraqis in case there is the unexpected, a resurgence of an extremist group of some sort that tries to have an affect of the stability inside Iraq."

Odierno said he has not talked with anyone on Obama's transition team.

"I have a mission I currently have with the current commander-in-chief, and I am working toward that mission," Odierno said. "When our new commander-in-chief comes in and tells us what he would like us to do, then I will migrate my mission and my plan to what he wants to do. Until then there is not much to talk about."

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News of America's southern deployment came as Iraq's major parliamentary leaders reached a compromise Sunday that would allow all non-American foreign troops to remain until the end of July 2009. A U.N. mandate authorizing military operations in Iraq expires Dec. 31 and those troops would have no legal ground to remain.

Britain has already announced it plans to withdraw its 4,000 troops from southern Iraq by the end of May, and Odierno told the AP that U.S. troops would replace British forces in the region early next year.

Odierno said he is considering moving either a brigade or division headquarters _ about 100 personnel _ as well as an undetermined number of combat troops to Iraq's second-largest city.

"It will be a smaller presence than what is here now. We think it's important to maintain some presence down here just because we think Basra is an important city, and we think it's important to have some oversight here," Odierno said in Basra shortly after being briefed by British Maj. Gen. Andy Salmon about the area's stability.

Odierno said Multi-National Division _ Center, which is responsible for the area just south of Baghdad will expand down to the Persian Gulf and the Kuwait border. Basra is at the heart of the country's vital oil industry.

Odierno said he expects the transition between U.S. and British troops to begin at the end of March.

Abbas al-Bayati of the Shiite United Iraqi Alliance said Parliament will vote on Monday after "the decision to approve a draft resolution was reached with heads of political blocs."

Unlike a draft law that was rejected by the Iraqi parliament, the resolution needs to be ratified by a simple majority _ sidestepping the need for support from smaller radical parties.

A separate agreement approved by the Iraqi government allows the United States to keep troops in the country until the end of 2011. That agreement, which takes effect on Jan. 1, gives Iraq some oversight over the nearly 150,000 American troops now in the country.

Odierno also said no decision has been made to withdraw the nearly 22,000 Marines in Iraq, mostly in Anbar province, where insurgent violence is relatively low, despite comments from the Marine commandant that there was a greater role for them in Afghanistan.

"Any decision on force structure here in Iraq will be made by me," he said, adding he would then make recommendations to Gen. David Petraeus, commander of all U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

He said any decision would be based on being able to continue the U.S. mission and not give up security gains.

In 2006, U.S. forces attempted to hand over security in portions of Iraq to security forces only to have them collapse in the face of sectarian violence and insurgent attacks.

Iraqi forces are now responsible for security in 13 of the 18 provinces with coalition forces available for help if requested.

There has been an 86 percent decline in violence this year from the previous year, Iraqi Army Maj. Gen. Qassim Atta said Sunday. Attacks have dropped from 180 a day last year to about 10 a day this year. He also said murder rates had declined to below pre-war levels, about one per 100,000 people.

In the only reported violence Sunday, a suicide bomber killed an Iraqi army soldier in Mosul when he detonated himself as a patrol passed him, said an Iraqi police officer, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to media.

But U.S. officials say the security situation remains tenuous, and some areas of the country are still dangerous.

Chief among Odierno's concerns is providing adequate security for the Jan. 31 Iraq-wide provincial elections.

U.S. and Iraqi officials hope the elections will redress problems created by the last regional balloting in January 2005, when Sunnis largely stayed away from the polls.

As a result, Kurds and Shiites won a disproportionate share of the power, and Iraqi and U.S. military officials have expressed concern of a possible increase in violence prior to the election and after the balloting.

"It is important that we work with the Iraqi security in order to ensure that the Iraqi people have the security prior to the election to campaign, then to vote and then afterward to seat the government properly," he said.

Odierno also said the outcome of the election may undercut an effort by some groups to hold a referendum on whether predominantly Shiite Basra province should become a self-ruled region with the same powers as the Kurdish self-ruled area in the north. That would give local authorities more control of the province's vast oil wealth.

"I think after the provincial elections, if that goes right and the people believe they are being represented properly," he said, "we'll see if they still want to do that or not."

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Associated Press writers Qassim Abdul-Zahra and Jim Heintz in Baghdad contributed to this report.

BASRA, Iraq — The top U.S. general in Iraq said he will make a decision about the future role of American troops in early spring, to allow enough time to address any violence that may arise from...
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C_L_U_S_T_E_R_F_U_C_!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 12/22/2008
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From WaPo:
*****

A Chance for Consensus on Iraq

By John McCain, Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham
Sunday, December 21, 2008

After our visit to Iraq this month, it is clear that what was once unthinkable there is now taking place: A stable, safe and free Iraq is emerging. Violence has fallen to the lowest level since the first months of the war. The Sunni Arabs who once formed the core of the insurgency are today among our most steadfast allies in the fight against al-Qaeda. A status-of-forces agreement between Iraq and America will take effect next month, providing for the withdrawal of U.S. troops and a commensurate increase in Iraqi self-defense. And Iraqi politics is increasingly taking on the messy but exhilarating quality of a functioning democracy. While uncertainty and risk remain high, and the gains made are not irreversible, the situation in Iraq has improved dramatically since the dark days before the surge. ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/19/AR2008121902926.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 12/22/2008

This is like sendinmg the american soldeirs into open hellfire...atleast the british where a bit tolerated in southern iraq..coz they have a tendency to be less arrogant,and now they want to send the americans into the place,where peace has finally been acomplished,and where they have the most shia people that love muqtada al sadr,and hate anything amnerican.
i really feel sorry for the mothers of these soldiers
good luck

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 12/21/2008
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where's all the Iraqi troops we trained...guess that was a lie to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 12/21/2008

Not at all. The vast majority of military operations are conducted with more Iraqi soldiers than American ones.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 12/22/2008

americans want super power status this is the price

live with it

or change it

ie detune the military

nope

did not think so

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 12/21/2008
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16 Months you war monger and your out of there. The President made this his election promise.

You Generals want to stay and spend $12 BILLION a month instead of going back to Washington and sit behind a desk. The narcotic of power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 12/21/2008

Violence is up: we gotta stay.
Violence is down: we gotta stay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 12/21/2008

they will bankrupt us

good for them

we invaded now occupy them

the price of imperialism

how few americans understand they are imperialists

at least we have job opportunities in america

military jobs in iraq

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 12/21/2008
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Why? Isn't Obush having them come home in 2009? or was that just another lie......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 12/21/2008

its was a bi lie dear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 12/21/2008

Right on Ray46, We've been waiting for these guys for years now. They must be trained up by now so I wonder, is it that the US (Cheney) won't allow them to take up their own defense. Surely the Iraqis want to defend and police themselves. Perhaps VPDC just can't let go. Turning control over to Iraqis may mean the end of privatized war industrial complex profit center.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 12/21/2008

They're as trained as they can reasonably be given limited resources. The problem is how do you maintain their discipline when their own higher-ups are corrupt. America is a cash-cow and they know it. The longer we stay, the more money they get and the less seriously they have to take their own forces. Our job is done in Iraq, but certain influential Iraqi leaders aren't so keen on us pulling out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 12/21/2008

We are of one mind on this. The Green Zone occupants owe their continued breathing to the protection of the US occupation, that's why they never put their foot down for a departure date. It's a shame there are no good employment prospects for the Iraqis who couldn't flee the carnage, as this helps fuel anger. CPA policies of bringing in outsourced labor rather than drawing from the local pool has paid lousy dividends.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 12/21/2008
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Get ready for more violence......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 12/21/2008

If the Iraqis can't replace the 4000 British troops by now there is no hope at all for the Iraqis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 12/21/2008

Sounds reasonable. Maybe we should send in another 100,000 troops to Iraq and 50,000 more to Afghanistan. Move those phantom brigades.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 12/21/2008

the only coalition troops to remain will be the U.S., Britain, Australia, El Salvador, Estonia and Romania. The troops from El Salvador, Estonia and Romania is a joke ..what a total of 200 from these countries ..but hey that is a coalition ..Bush prepatred this fraud on us ..coalition in Iraq ..mark it ...The day we leave Iraq it will be in the pocket of Iran ..Most of the shia in power came from Iran ..Bush never understood the country ..To not understand your enemy is the biggest strategic failure any Commander can make ...
Look at the cost of this adventure to us, the Iraqi civilans & the $ we spent there ...All for nothing ...yes Busg got Saddam ..Was it worth it? HELL NO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 12/21/2008

How about sending in those 3,000 monkeys from Morrocco?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 12/21/2008
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