As Israel Pounds Gaza, Egyptians Get Angry At Their Own Government

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GlobalPost.com   |  Theodore May   |   January 1, 2009 02:49 PM

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SHEIKH ZOWAYED, Egypt -- In north Sinai, Egyptians angrily watched a scorching air offensive by the Israeli Air Force against Hamas, as well as ordinary Palestinians, in the Gaza strip.

As Israel continued to slam strategic Hamas military positions and the labyrinth of smuggling tunnels between Egypt and Gaza, many Egyptians spoke sharply about their government's close cooperation with Israel and the United States. This development must be troubling for Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.

The current conflict highlights a long simmering tension between the Mubarak government's deep ties with the U.S. and its traditional role as leader of the Arab world.

In Sheikh Zowayed, seven miles west of Rafah and the Gaza border, a brigade of ambulances plowed through vast roadside puddles shuttling the wounded from Gaza to the town of El Arish for medical attention.

That Egypt has even opened the border to receive the wounded is evidence of the government's ongoing internal conflict. The Egyptian government has continuously reevaluated its border policy, sometimes accepting and other times rejecting those injured in the bombing raids.

While Israel and the U.S. would prefer that Egypt permanently close the border with its Palestinian neighbors, Arab countries have cried foul over Cairo's seeming refusal to relieve the tension in Gaza, which is among the world's most densely populated territories.

The Arab press has carried a barrage of reports charging that the Mubarak government has not been tough enough with the Israelis.

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Angry mobs in Lebanon and Yemen in the past week have stormed Egyptian embassies to protest the country's Gaza policy. Even in ordinarily calm Egypt, a spate of demonstrations has broken out in recent days to protest not only Israel, but also the policies of the Egyptian government.

There are signs, though, that the government of President Hosni Mubarak, typically tolerant of peaceful protests, has grown wary of mounting public discontent. In Cairo Wednesday, as well as in El Arish, scheduled protests were quickly dispersed by riot police.

Though the Mubarak government has officially condemned Israel for using excessive force, few in Egypt are convinced that their government is prepared to get tough with Israel. Mubarak's meeting last week with Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni has spawned a host of popular conspiracy theories here over Egypt's complicity with the Israelis.

Though skepticism over Egypt's stance on Gaza has exposed a nerve in Cairo, anti-government anger is much more explicit in towns close to the Gaza border such as Sheikh Zowayed, population 27,000.

The streets in town were full of life as 2008 drew to a close Wednesday, but a subdued air cast a pall over people's comings and goings. Everyone knew that if Israel attempted another evening raid Wednesday their walls and windows would shake violently with the reminder of a war close at hand.

"People are worried that (if the conflict continues) the Palestinians will tear down the wall and flood into these towns," said Mostafa Singer, a Sheikh Zowayed resident and writer for independent newspaper Al Badeel. In January 2008, Hamas destroyed portions of the barrier wall between Gaza and Egypt, allowing Gazans to flood border towns to buy goods denied them by the Israeli blockade.

While noting his own opposition to Hamas, Singer admitted that in this part of the country he is in the minority. Rounds of violence between Israel and Gaza have radicalized neighboring Egyptian towns, and Hamas has become a local favorite.

In Cairo, by contrast, primary public opinion tends to be against Israel rather than in favor of Hamas.

With $1.4 billion in aid to Egypt annually, the U.S. can be sure, at least for the time being, of the Egyptian government's cooperation.

But as the government has leaned more heavily towards the West, its citizens have turned toward the Arab world. The anger against Mubarak in Sheikh Zowayed and elsewhere could rise from a simmer to a steady boil as the Gaza conflict continues.

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SHEIKH ZOWAYED, Egypt -- In north Sinai, Egyptians angrily watched a scorching air offensive by the Israeli Air Force against Hamas, as well as ordinary Palestinians, in the Gaza strip. As Israel ...
SHEIKH ZOWAYED, Egypt -- In north Sinai, Egyptians angrily watched a scorching air offensive by the Israeli Air Force against Hamas, as well as ordinary Palestinians, in the Gaza strip. As Israel ...
 
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You know what, I wonder about, why are the Palestian applogists are so ant-Israel? If you realy wish to hear about how all this began, hear you go. Let's get serious about Palestinian history. They have only been recognized by the Arab states as Palestinians since the 1920's. They were part of a shared area, Jews Arabs, Christians that all called themselves Palestinians for years. Under the leadership of Haj Amin al-Husseini Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, uncle of Yasser Arafat, friend of Hitler and Adolf Eichmann, a newly formed militant Palestine group formed that wanted to make Palestine into an all Muslim state. Something previously unheard of.
After the 1948 partition, the Arab league attacked the Jews, trying to wipe them out and lost. That means they only existed as a country of many different people for about 25 years. Never as a purely Muslim state. At the time of partition there were about half a million Muslim Palestinians in the area. At present there are over 4 million living there. That would obviously negate any talk of genocide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 01/03/2009
- mymy1 I'm a Fan of mymy1 2 fans permalink

Now that you're talking about history: less than 10% of population the palestinian teritory were 10% in 1910. That means there were less than 50,000 Jews in the whole territory. Currently, there are 6 million. Where did they come from? From EU and other countries after the WWII holocus by Christian west. Zionists have had dreams of Israel from sea to Jordan. They neven gave up this dream and created all kinds of execuses for not allowing palestinian state even in the UN mandated division. You can't blame Hamas for all the Israely intransigence. hamas was created in 90's with the help of Israel as a counterballance to Fatah to create division so that can rule. Ocupation, lack of control on ones faith, poverty, and hopelessness has caused the frustrations and rebelion in the part of Palestinians. Israel has had time to help create 2 state solution but has not been serious. Israel has to abandon the old dream of having greater Israel and let palestinians have viable state in the West bank and Gaza. If this does not happen soon, I agree with the palestinian intellectuals that they should change their goal to a single state solution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 01/06/2009
- Lyceum I'm a Fan of Lyceum 22 fans permalink

I would like to hear a reasoned explanation for our (U.S.) continued unilateral support for Israel. We are the only nation in the world the continues to support Israel without guestioning its policies and military actions.

Please just tell me: why is it in our national interest to continue our unequivocal support for Israel?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 01/02/2009
- Sparty1 I'm a Fan of Sparty1 19 fans permalink

I don't know if someone mentioned this earlier, but can someone please explain to me how we can continue to give any country billions of dollars in aid when we are borrowing money ourselves?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 01/02/2009

Does anyone realize or know or care that Israel has made over 90,000 automated calls to Gazans to warn them of missile strikes before they happened? The leader that was just killed was warned to leave his house with his family and refused; He is currently deceased along with his four wives and seven children.S­o, I ask, who are the REAL wackos?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 01/01/2009
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do you have alink for this? seem absurd that they would call before assasinating someone they are targetting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 01/01/2009
- Paladine I'm a Fan of Paladine 5 fans permalink
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no kidding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 01/02/2009
- Ronju01 I'm a Fan of Ronju01 11 fans permalink
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Israel Gov said it's National Information Directorate feeding correct information to the public and people all over the world buying it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 AM on 01/02/2009
- iblisexpat I'm a Fan of iblisexpat 3 fans permalink

Total lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 AM on 01/02/2009

so if you call me and tell me "I will shoot you" that makes the shooting moral and legal ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 01/02/2009
- Pema I'm a Fan of Pema 46 fans permalink
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Honestly you think that Israel called up and saisd please leave and he said no and let himself and his family die? your trying to post that the man basically allowed himself to die, they all allowed themselves to die.
I think youve got a case of projection of wacko.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 01/02/2009
- lizardbox I'm a Fan of lizardbox 2 fans permalink

So, they call you telling you that they're about to completely obliterate the dump of a neighborhood you've lived in all your life. This is good how exactly?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 01/02/2009

Kindly note that Israel's IDF has been condemned for using weapons of mass destruction on Lebanese civilians in 2006 such as cluster bombs, white phosphorous and even poison gas.

If the israeli IDF bends itself backwards to protect civilians, it would not have rejected the 2-day ceasefire:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/01/world/middleeast/01mideast.html?th&emc=th

Do read up on what happened the last time Israel invaded and bombed its neighbour:

"Israel has been heavily criticized for the killings across Lebanon. In a report released Wednesday, Human Rights Watch said it had documented 153 deaths of Lebanese civilians. It said the killings formed a pattern so extensive that it seemed to indicate that the Israelis were deliberately targeting civilians. It went so far as to accuse Israel of war crimes....­"

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/02/news/civil.php
Israel attacks convoy fleeing south Lebanon Fri Aug 11, 6:18 PM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060811/wl_nm/mideast_south_dc

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Israeli aircraft fired rockets at a convoy of hundreds of cars carrying people fleeing south Lebanon on Friday, killing at least seven people and wounding 36, witnesses and medical sources said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 01/01/2009
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" Ordinary Palestinians ", as opposed to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 01/01/2009

"non-ordinary" ....duh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 01/01/2009
- Enid I'm a Fan of Enid 9 fans permalink

Hamas fight to annoy the Israeli's.
Screaming too the world help our land, nation and culture have been STOLLEN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 01/01/2009

Scream at Egypt, go back to '67 borders!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 01/01/2009
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What would make the Hamas apologists happy? If Israel lobed rockets indiscriminately into Gaza one for one with Hamas? Great solution. You think Hamas would not be killing more Israelis if they had more powerful weapons? Of course they would.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 01/01/2009
- AMERIKA I'm a Fan of AMERIKA 15 fans permalink

Hamas wants all Israelis to walk into the water and drown so that they can occupy Israel, which they refer to as Palestine. They have committed themselves with Iran's support to the destruction of Israel. I for one, support the Israeli efforts to bring an end to this mindset. If you look at what happened in Lebanon, everyone gave the battle to Hamas, but in truth, there have been two and a half years of border quiet between Lebanon and Israel. Israel should make peace with Jordan and Syria, and that would force the hand of the Palestinians. At the same time, while they are pounding Hamas, they should empower Fatah on the West Bank, and to the extend they can, in Gaza as well. Gaza will return to Fatah if Fatah can deliver a stable economy, peace and security.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 01/01/2009
- iblisexpat I'm a Fan of iblisexpat 3 fans permalink

May be Israeli government should appoint you as its foreign minister with all this "wisdome"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 AM on 01/02/2009
- Pema I'm a Fan of Pema 46 fans permalink
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In Lebanon, it is Hizbollah, not Hamas. Once you get who is who then you might want to offer an opinon, but your post is incorrect in many ways. Your entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 01/02/2009
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Joe Scaboro u get it wrong again.....­Dr Zbig come get him

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 01/03/2009

The fact is that Israel is occupying Palestinian lands and has for the past generation and a half, and not the other way around. Until this changes they are the occupiers with their responsibilities towards the occupied, and Palestinians are resisting their occupation with whatever means they have.

So to answer your question I'll go out on a limb and suggest that retreating from the occupied lands and paying reparations to Palestinians for the years of abuse would be one way to make Hamas apologists happier.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 01/01/2009
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You mean the land the Jews acquired after the Arab league attacked them? That land? Why don't the Arabs give back the land they stole from Turkey? Or the land the Ottomans stole off the Roman Byzantines? Even the land the Romans stole off the Jews?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 01/02/2009

Hit the beehive with a bat...so stupid.

Who is counting the dead?
Our God who like our local officals are trying to finf beds abd blankets for the homeless.

God bless America

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 01/01/2009
- BaileyWo I'm a Fan of BaileyWo 11 fans permalink

"While Israel and the U.S. would prefer....­"

That about says it all, doesn't it? Egypt's dilemma is protecting herself from being overwhelmed by refugees on the one hand and honoring universal humanitarian principles. Too bad "Israel and the U.S. would prefer..." something else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 01/01/2009
- smag I'm a Fan of smag 4 fans permalink

Why don't you just pick another country that you agree with more? It is clear form your posts that The US is just not up to your socialistic standards. Since the US is not going to go your way maybe you should pick another passport or stand ready to fight the majority of Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 01/01/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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Typical neocon trash talk. "You object to my militant, immoral policy stance? You're a traitor to America!" You know, your party lost the election, and will be losing elections for a long time to come. Get used to it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 01/01/2009
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ehrmm... the majority of americans don't buy this tripe anymore...­nice try.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 01/01/2009
- Sparty1 I'm a Fan of Sparty1 19 fans permalink

The majority of Americans would probably prefer that we stay out of all of these conflicts with the Arab/Israeli world. What was wrong with what the above poster said that would make you think they're a Socialist and shouldn't live in America? I thought one of the tenets of our great country was freedom of speech. BaileyWho does NOT have to agree with the government's position on this war or any other one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 01/02/2009

Refugees? Until '67 they were Egyptians. Ask why Egypt doesn't want Gaza back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 01/01/2009
- iblisexpat I'm a Fan of iblisexpat 3 fans permalink

Egypt is trying "honoring universal humanitarian principles"? You must be kidding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 AM on 01/02/2009
- apexfork I'm a Fan of apexfork 13 fans permalink

I appreciate the courtesy of this writer. Putting his/her bias in the first sentence lets me know, up front, what kind of article to expect.

This air campaign is not an offensive against ordinary Palestinians. If it were against ordinary Palestinians, there would be tens of thousands dead, because ordinary Palestinians, much like Hamas, are completely powerless against Israeli armed force.

That there are so few Palestinian casualties proves that Israel isn't operating against the civilian populace.

The relative few that have died are still a terrible shame, and we can all hope that the violence ends soon, but call this what it is: precision military action against targets embedded within a civilian populace, not a campaign directed against civilians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 01/01/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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There have been several thousand Palestinian casualties over the course of five days. Over the course of a year, less than a hundred Israelis were injured or killed. Don't give us a lecture on who is responsible for violence and mass murder -- we can see that quite clearly without your "guidance.­"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 01/01/2009

You can't see far with your horse-blinders on. War is not a game of numbers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 01/01/2009
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What nonsense you write. The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East has confirmed that at least 25% of the dead (thus far) in the bombing campaign are civilians; many more civilians have been injured. Those numbers are not a "relative few", for those of us who can do simple math (and who maintain a modicum of objectivity). Gaza is one of the most densely populated areas on the planet (something that Israeli leaders know well, as they helped make that happen by sealing the borders). Accordingly, the idea that anyone could bomb a target within that dense populace and not KNOWINGLY inflict casualties on civilians is preposterous nonsense. Israel conducted this air-bombing campaign in order to inflict suffering on the civilians of Gaza, in the hopes that they would in turn blame Hamas; it has not worked to this point (on the contrary, Olmert appears to be employing the "George W. Bush method of winning friends and influencing people"). Israel also knows that the only way to root out Hamas is in a ground campaign, but that didn't work so will against Hezbollah in 2006. Israel is entitled to defend itself, and that includes attacking its self-declared enemy Hamas, but it is simply mendacious to assert that this air-bombing campaign is "surgical", or that involves "precision" bombing of non-civilian targets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 01/01/2009

100% of Israelis killed are civilians. Where is your moral equivalency argument going to lead you? Do you even know?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 01/01/2009

Had Israel carpet bombed Gaza, your argument might hold water. But it hasn't. It is using the most sophisticated weapons known to man to minimize civilian deaths.

To put things in perspective: Israel's six day air campaign against Hamas has killed 60 civilians.

Yesterdays fire in a Bangkok night club killed 60 innocent partygoers celebrating New Years.

60 civilians must be a record low number for deaths in a conflict. GET REAL. It's war!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 01/01/2009
- toddag I'm a Fan of toddag 18 fans permalink

By your logic, there have been so few Isr.aeli casualties, Ha.mas is obviously not operating against the civilian population in Is.rael.

That would mean the bombings and blockade by Is.rael are not justified, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 01/01/2009
- afgail I'm a Fan of afgail 59 fans permalink

No. Isreal notifies Gaza that it plans to bomb military targets and most civilians know where Hamas is embedded. You just have to look for the rocket vapors to locate the launch sites. Pretty much tells them where the Isreali's will attack. Those Gazans that have enough sense to get away from obvious target areas are safe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 01/01/2009

I appreciate your sound understanding of this situation. The numbers speak for themselves. Israel is waging a war against aggressor terrorists that hide behind the skirts of woman and children. In fact, Hamas wants civilians to die so that bleeding hearts the world over will side with their cause against Israel.

Palestinian military inferiority is no indication of moral superiority.

I challenge any of you accusers of the Israeli "massacre" / "genocide" of Palestinians to find another army on this Earth that has the power of the IDF but limits to a minimum civilian casualties while battling their enemy. You can't find a more moral and highly trained army. Even the US has shown neglect for the safety of civilians in its two ongoing wars.

The Arabs: go read about the wars Arabs have fought with each other (See: Iran-Iraq) for the brutality and lack of compassion for one's enemy and civilian populations. See the recent Georgia-Russia war.

Why are people blind to the truth about how well the IDF conducts itself under the most restrictive conditions on Earth? No other army holds a candle to the IDF.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 01/01/2009

Point of contention: Iranians are not Arabs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 01/01/2009
- PhoenixGSU I'm a Fan of PhoenixGSU 9 fans permalink

Is this the same morally sound military that shot the guy point blank while he was in custody?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 01/02/2009

What, and where, exactly, is the "Arab World" you mention in the homepage headline/link?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 01/01/2009
- Yasmine I'm a Fan of Yasmine 9 fans permalink

This situation will go on and on........­........un­less a man of great courage SPEAKS the exact words needed to break this 60 year old stalemate.
I do not see such a man on the horizon.
but i do have the WORDS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 01/01/2009
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 230 fans permalink
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Love thy enemy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 01/01/2009
- Yasmine I'm a Fan of Yasmine 9 fans permalink

well that is the good one LOVE THY ENEMY.....­.........b­ut mine is of a different kind.
SURE to electrify all who hear ..........­..
unfortunately no politician leader seems to be capable of uttering Jesus's advice.
so I went about another way.
BUT thank YOu WADENELSON1
HAPPY NEW YEAR......­........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 01/01/2009
- Yasmine I'm a Fan of Yasmine 9 fans permalink

Wadenelson­1.........­....your Love thy enemy has inspired me,,,,,,,,,,,
so I have something else for you.
The Jews say A TOOTH for a TOOTH an EYE for an EYE
AHA
but the Israelis actions are : An EYE for a TOOTH !!!
am I not right ?

That is why with this knowledge, I know full well that LOVE THY ENEMY will not work with either of these 2 angry groups.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 01/01/2009
- BaileyWo I'm a Fan of BaileyWo 11 fans permalink

Okay, I'll take the bait.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 01/01/2009
- toddag I'm a Fan of toddag 18 fans permalink

Do onto others as you would have them do to you?

Seriously, I would like to know what words you suggest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 01/01/2009
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