Obama's Intel Picks Short On Direct Experience

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PAMELA HESS | January 5, 2009 09:44 PM EST | AP

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In this Sept. 27, 1996 file photo, then-White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta talks to reporters on Capitol Hill in Washington. President-elect Barack Obama has selected Panetta to head the CIA, according to an Obama transition official. (AP Photo/Dennis Cook, File)

WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama's decision to fill the nation's top intelligence jobs with two men short on direct experience in intelligence gathering surprised the spy community and signaled the Democrat's intention for a clean break from Bush administration policies.

Former Clinton White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta, an eight-term congressional veteran and administrative expert, is being tapped to head the CIA. Retired Adm. Dennis Blair is Obama's choice to be director of national intelligence, a selection expected for weeks, according to two Democrats who spoke on condition of anonymity because Obama has not officially announced the choices.

The Obama transition team's long delay in selecting CIA and national intelligence directors is a reflection of the complicated demands of the jobs and Obama's own policies and priorities.

Obama is sending an unequivocal message that controversial administration policies approving harsh interrogations, waterboarding and extraordinary renditions _ the secret transfer of prisoners to other governments with a history of torture _ and warrantless wiretapping are over, said several officials.

The search for Obama's new CIA chief had been stalled since November, when John Brennan, Obama's transition intelligence adviser, abruptly withdrew his name from consideration. Brennan said his potential nomination had sparked outrage among civil rights and human rights groups, who argued that he had not been outspoken enough in his condemnation of President George W. Bush's policies.

And despite an internal list of former and current CIA officials who had impressive administrative credentials, all either worked in intelligence during the Bush administration's development of controversial policies on interrogation and torture or earlier, during the months leading up to the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

Neither Panetta nor Blair are tainted by associations with Bush administration policies, in large part because they both come from outside the intelligence world. Blair was posted at the CIA for about a year.

Panetta could face tough questions at his nomination hearing about his background in intelligence. California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who will chair the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Monday she was surprised by the pick, and neither was informed nor consulted.

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"I know nothing about this, other than what I've read," she said. "My position has consistently been that I believe the agency is best served by having an intelligence professional in charge at this time."

A former senior CIA official who advises Obama defended the surprise choice of Panetta, who has no direct intelligence experience beyond a two-year stint in the mid-1960s as a U.S. Army lieutenant. The official said Panetta had been a consumer of CIA intelligence when he was at the White House. He said he was selected for his administrative, management and political skills which will allow him both to control and advocate for the agency.

He said Panetta will rely on the expertise of CIA officers to balance his lack of personal intelligence experience.

Veterans of the CIA were caught off guard by the selection.

"I'm at a loss," said Robert Grenier, a former director of the CIA's counterterrorism center and 27-year veteran of the agency who now is managing director of Kroll, a security consulting company.

The lack of intelligence experience puts Panetta at "a tremendous disadvantage," Grenier told The Associated Press in an interview.

"Intelligence by its very nature is an esoteric world. And right now the agency is confronted with numerous pressing challenges overseas, and to have no background is a serious deficit. I don't say that he can't succeed. It may that he can compensate for the obvious deficit."

John Hamre, the president of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, served with Panetta during the Clinton administration. He said Panetta's experience as a former Cabinet member will help elevate the CIA's status inside the White House. The CIA director was once the president's main intelligence adviser. That role shifted in 2004 to the newly created national intelligence director.

Obama "has drawn a former Cabinet-level official to take a sub-Cabinet position, which means for a much more powerful CIA in the constellation of intelligence agencies," Hamre said.

Panetta was director of the Office of Management and Budget and a longtime congressman from California. As White House Chief of Staff during the Clinton administration, he spearheaded the internal effort to find a new CIA chief that led to the selection of John Deutsch in 1995. Deutsch served for 18 months. After he resigned, CIA security officers found classified material on his home computer, a violation of security procedures.

Panetta also served on the Iraq Study Group, a bipartisan panel that released a report at the end of 2006 with dozens of recommendations for reversing course in the war.

With his wife, Sylvia, Panetta directs the Leon & Sylvia Panetta Institute for Public Policy, based at California State University, Monterey Bay. The university that he helped establish is on the site of the former U.S. Army base at Fort Ord. Panetta also served for two years on a review board that helped oversee two major reports on the history of sex abuse in U.S. Catholic dioceses.

Obama's selection of Blair, a former U.S. Pacific Command chief, had been expected.

Blair served in the Navy for 34 years and was chief of the U.S. Pacific Command during the Sept. 11 attacks. Blair also is a China expert, and he was an associate director for military support at the CIA.

Blair and Panetta would replace retired Adm. Mike McConnell and former Air Force Gen. Michael Hayden, respectively. Both men had said they would stay in their positions if asked.

WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama's decision to fill the nation's top intelligence jobs with two men short on direct experience in intelligence gathering surprised the spy community and ...
WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama's decision to fill the nation's top intelligence jobs with two men short on direct experience in intelligence gathering surprised the spy community and ...
 
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 01/07/2009
- Davwbaird I'm a Fan of Davwbaird 22 fans permalink
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Not Stephen Kappes. We need Leon in the CIA. He will re structure the agency working closely with the new presidents National Security Team. Its an awesome team.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 01/06/2009
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I wonder if George H. W. Bush who had no intel experience received this much static during his nomination. After all the CIA building bares his name.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 01/06/2009

I think that if you go back and do some research that GHWB was not all that unfamiliar with CIA when he was appointed director.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 01/08/2009
- LeftRight I'm a Fan of LeftRight 109 fans permalink
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Daddy had a lot of experience with the CIA when he took over, it's just that none of it was public knowledge.­......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 01/09/2009

Panetta is a Budget expert. Does the CIA have a budgetary problems ? On occasions where Panetta writes, or guest panelist for political commentary news magazines, his expertise is solicited about budget, budgetary constraints, national debts, GAO, GDP and fiscal policies. His stance on torture is boiler plate for politicians and none more. Personally, other than standard argument about torture, Panetta has never been known a CIA operation expert, nor has she been solicited for his opinions regarding such matters.

Can Obama find a career CIA operatives with knowledge of the CIA ? There has to be some career CIA managers and analyst who came up the ladder and have vast knowledge of national security, international spying, collecting, dissiminating intelligence and analysing intelligence, mission covert operations, international protocols, laws and foreign relations as well as coordination of other agencies such as NAS, FBI, State Department. and counter part spy operations of other countries. I question if Panetta had ever any dealings with the CIA.

In fairness to Panetta, his managerial skills will work well with the coordination of other agencies, and more efficient and accountable CIA about its resources and personnel. Still, there are many career CIA operatives and analyst who came up the ladder. O should search within the agency.

Finally, I have always maintained Panetta was a better candidate for the Department of Commerce post. He should replaced the disgraced Richardson.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 01/06/2009
- Davwbaird I'm a Fan of Davwbaird 22 fans permalink
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Leon will be the greatest director of the CIA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 01/06/2009

"Greatest" is word for the blind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 01/06/2009

@strangeri­nthenight, ever considered how many black ops Bush has floating around? They all leave a cash-flow, and you can find it if you have the power and eye to do it. Panetta would be the perfect choice if you wanted someone to fish out left-over black ops programs that are trying to fly below the radar.

Apparently there must be some "special programs" going on that certain individuals wanted to keep from the Obama team, hence the gasps and grunts from those culpable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 01/06/2009

Ridiculous argument. Black ops floating around is a preripheral, the best eye to do it are career, trained and experience operatives. Panetta is a very poor choice.

Inspired, apparently there are cowards who deal with double talk. Say it straight, no double talks. Maybe then, we can converse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 01/06/2009
- shanefish I'm a Fan of shanefish 10 fans permalink
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Psst....th­e CIA had lifelong CIA people in charge when they were told a few months early that New York city would have planes flown into buildings. Take a wild guess what happened. You also might want to spell check before posting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 01/08/2009
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 82 fans permalink

Fantastic surprise pick. GREAT MOVE!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 01/06/2009
- unscum I'm a Fan of unscum 9 fans permalink

Great stuff, I like Leon Panetta.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 01/06/2009

What a great pick if you want the bad guys to prevail. Even Feinstein and Rockefeller realize this is a reckless selection that puts our nation at risk. Way to go Barry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 01/06/2009
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Please you would rather have the intelligence professional nitwits that gave up the biggest ter ror attack in history and started a war over faulty intelligence.

You're just mad the old vote Rethuglican or d ie tactic does not work anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 01/06/2009
- whoknew--- I'm a Fan of whoknew--- 15 fans permalink

I really agree with you on this one.

Panetta is against torture and I think the drums are beating against him because of it.

http://www.montereyherald.com/ci_8511876?source=most_viewed

My question is any of the above mentioned issues in that article a premise to undermine Obama's pic of Panetta...­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 01/06/2009
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 137 fans permalink
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You failed to take into account that Feinstein and Rockefeller were part of the "Gang of 8," the ones who were privy to the Bush criminal Extraordinary Rendition and to.r.ture schemes.

They may stand to be exposed and lose a great deal by having Panetta as head of the CIA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 01/06/2009

Panetta wouldn't REWARD those who casually allowed 9/11 to happen due to inaction (either deliberate or as a result of incompetence) as those under Bush did.

I think some people forget that this is the same CIA that coincidentally ran terror drills..on 9/11...in NYC...invo­lving hijacked aircraft - resulting in NORAD's systems being *allegedly* unable to distinguish between the real hijacked aircraft and the false positives that were part of the CIA drill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 01/06/2009

Uh, all the work setting up the 9/11 attacks occurred under Clinton. Go read before writing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 01/10/2009
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 119 fans permalink
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Backwards, as usual - can't tell the bad guys from the real Americans. Way to go, robonobody.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 01/06/2009
- robeson I'm a Fan of robeson 24 fans permalink
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It also means a tight rein on Sen. Feinstein and her propensity for criminal conduct.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 01/06/2009

The Obama transition team made a mistake by not consulting with Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California before choosing Leon Panetta to head the Central Intelligence Agency, Vice President-elect Joe Biden said Tuesday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 01/06/2009
- FirstShirt I'm a Fan of FirstShirt 63 fans permalink

Clinton man. Been around DC a long, long time. Sound familiar?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 01/06/2009
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 137 fans permalink
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It seems refreshing after 8 long years of glassy-eyed, incompetent cronyism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 01/06/2009
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 119 fans permalink
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Yeah - first as a Republican then as a Democratic Congressman, budget director and THEN Clinton Chief of Staff.

And now he'll successfully run the CIA. Good thing PE Obama knows what he is doing - unlike you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 01/06/2009

I know this comment is a bot superficial, but I like this guys face. Something out of a Woody Allen movie.

Good pick!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 01/06/2009

But what does it tell/send message about---- how competent the pick is to protect America?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 01/06/2009

You pick an outsider when you want to reform the department you're appointing them to. Someone who doesn't owe any favors and isn't tainted by any previous corruption.

This is a great pick as it means we won't get manufactured intelligence to draw us into another pointless war

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 01/06/2009

ever heard of porter goss who was also respected by both sides of aisle and brought in outsiders to re vamp that agency to only face a revolt

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 01/07/2009
- Belisarius I'm a Fan of Belisarius 31 fans permalink
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I just remembered. Harold Ickes was Panetta's deputy chief of staff. Will Leon bring Harold into the CIA too?

How would you like Harold in the CIA? The New York Times called him Bill Clinton's garbage man.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9804EED81438F932A1575AC0A961958260

Run!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 01/06/2009
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 137 fans permalink
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Who cares? Sounds like hypothetical grasping at straws to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 01/06/2009
- browndog2 I'm a Fan of browndog2 6 fans permalink

So, a bad Obama appointment is good, since Bush didn't make it.....

A bad Obama appointment is good, since Obama made it.

Hence, a bad Obama appointment is simply not possible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 01/06/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 234 fans permalink

It really depends on who says it's a "bad" appointment ... who can possible rely upon those who for 8 yrs. could not connect dots !???

Anyway, I love what P.E.Obama just said .... ah, we don't have time to tinker in the margins !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 01/06/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 234 fans permalink

"possibly"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 01/06/2009
- FirstShirt I'm a Fan of FirstShirt 63 fans permalink

"...who can possible rely upon those who for 8 yrs. could not connect dots !???"

The rewriting of history has begun in earnest. Where were the democrats? Siberia? Did you rail against Iraq? No, many voted for it. Did your democratic leaders of Congress drag the issues of greed and poor management out to the public? No. Barney Frank supported Fannie and Freddie and their loans to those who were less fortunate and more risky. Fool others, but at least don't fool yourselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 01/06/2009
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You are contradicting yourself because you are a tro// and don't support Obama you think every pick is bad. So what's worse not supporting any picks or supporting all his picks?

Since all this of our opinions are 100% speculation anyway I see no problem giving Obama the benefit of the doubt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 01/06/2009
- RRonin I'm a Fan of RRonin 19 fans permalink
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When the CIA's parent agency, the OSS was created, we were at war. The people put in charge were not Jack Bauer types but tweedy intellectuals from the Ivy League. It's not necessary for the Director of CIA to have actual intelligence experience, but to be experienced and intelligent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 01/06/2009
- Belisarius I'm a Fan of Belisarius 31 fans permalink
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Roosevelt picked the best available. Wild Bill Donovan, the head of OSS, was a Major General, lawyer, had extensive experience in government, had traveled the world, and had met many of the world's leaders before WWII, including Hitler.

Here's a question. If you were a director of GM, would you pick Leon to fix the company, or would you want somebody with a little experience?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 01/06/2009
- KHAAANNN I'm a Fan of KHAAANNN 38 fans permalink

Foot, meet mouth. Chew carefully.
The CURRENT CEO of GM has YEARS of experience and he is doing a "heckuva-job".
The CURRENT President of the United States has 8 YEARS of "experience". Hows he doing?
So what is your point again?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 01/06/2009
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