Gaza truce proposed after Israeli shell kills 30

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IBRAHIM BARZAK and JASON KEYSER | January 6, 2009 11:33 PM EST | AP

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Palestinians gather at the site of an Israeli strike on a street near a U.N. school, after an Israeli attack killed dozens of Palestinians, in Jabaliya refugee camp, northern Gaza Strip, Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2009. An Israeli bombardment struck outside a U.N. school where hundreds of Palestinians had sought refuge on Tuesday, the U.N. and Palestinian medics said, killing at least 30 people, many of them children whose parents wailed in grief at a hospital filled with dead and wounded. (AP Photo/Khalil Hamra)

GAZA CITY, Gaza — France and Egypt announced an initiative to stop the fighting in Gaza late Tuesday, hours after Israeli mortar shells exploded near a U.N. school sheltering hundreds of people displaced by the onslaught on Hamas militants. At least 30 Palestinians died, staining streets with blood.

The Egyptian and French presidents didn't release details of their proposal, saying only that it involved an immediate cease-fire to permit humanitarian aid into Gaza and talks to settle the differences between Israel and the Islamic militants of Hamas who rule the small coastal territory.

They said they were awaiting a response from Israel. Israeli officials in Jerusalem declined immediate comment on the announcement, which came amid diplomatic efforts by the U.S. and other nations to resolve a conflict that has seen 600 people killed in 11 days.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice weclomed the initiative, but cautioned that no agreement would succeed unless it halted Hamas rocket attacks on Israel and arms smuggling into Gaza.

Earlier in the day, President-elect Barack Obama broke his silence on the crisis, saying that "the loss of civilian life in Gaza and in Israel is a source of deep concern for me." He declined to go further, reiterating his stance that the U.S. has only one president at a time.

Israel's military said its shelling at the school _ the deadliest single episode since Israeli ground forces invaded Gaza on Saturday after a week of air bombardment _ was a response to mortar fire from within the school and said Hamas militants were using civilians as cover.

Two residents of the area who spoke with The Associated Press by telephone said they saw a small group of militants firing mortar rounds from a street near the school, where 350 people had gathered to get away from the shelling. They spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal.

Majed Hamdan, an AP photographer, rushed to the scene shortly after the attacks. At the hospital, he said, many children were among the dead.

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"I saw women and men _ parents _ slapping their faces in grief, screaming, some of them collapsed to the floor. They knew their children were dead," he said. "In the morgue, most of the killed appeared to be children. In the hospital, there wasn't enough space for the wounded."

He said there appeared to be marks on the pavement of five separate explosions in area of the school.

An Israeli defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not allowed to make the information public, said it appeared the military used 120-mm shells, among the largest mortar rounds.

U.N. officials demanded an investigation of the shelling. The carnage, which included 55 wounded, added to a surging civilian toll and drew mounting international pressure for Israel to end the offensive against Hamas.

At a news conference in Sharm-el-Sheik, Egypt, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said the truce proposal offered by him and French President Sarkozy envisioned an immediate end to combat, so humanitarian supplies can safely enter Gaza.

Mubarak said the plan also calls for an urgent meeting between Israel and the Palestinians to discuss ways to resolve the conflict and provide necessary guarantees to ensure fighting doesn't erupt again.

There was no indication of the plan's chances. Sarkozy said at the news conference that he saw it as a "small hope" for ending the Gaza violence.

Sarkozy said he had spoken to Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to inform him of the initiaitve and was awaiting a response.

He said Mubarak invited Israel "to come discuss the question of border security ... (and) that could be in the hours ahead."

In Jerusalem, Olmert's spokesman, Mark Regev, told AP: "We are holding off comments on that for the time being."

At U.N. headquarters, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas welcomed the proposal. "I express my support for the plan set in motion today by President Mubarak and President Sarkozy," said Abbas, who was in New York for a Security Council meeting on the Gaza crisis.

Israeli officials have said any cease-fire agreement must prevent further rocket attacks by Gaza militants and put in place measures to prevent the smuggling of missile and other weapons into the small Palestinian territory.

Rice told the Security Council meeting that the U.S. understood the growing desire for a cease-fire. "In this regard, we are pleased by, and wish to commend, the statement of the president of Egypt and to follow up on that initiative," she said.

But Rice added that any solution must address Israel's security.

"There must be a solution this time that does not allow Hamas to use Gaza as a launching pad against Israeli cities. It has to be a solution that does not allow the rearmament of Hamas, and it must be a solution that finds a way to open (border) crossings so that Palestinians in Gaza can have a normal life," she said.

In the wake of the criticism over civilian casualties, Israel agreed to set up a "humanitarian corridor" to ship vital supplies into the Gaza Strip. Under the plan, put forward by the Israeli Defense Ministry, Israel would suspend attacks in certain areas to allow people to get supplies.

At U.N. headquarters, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called the Israeli bombardment of U.N. facilities in Gaza "totally unacceptable." Israel's shells have fallen around three schools, including the girls school hit Tuesday, and a health center for Palestinian refugees.

Ban added that it was "equally unacceptable" for militants to take actions that endanger Palestinian civilians, referring to the practice of militants making attacks from residential areas.

Some 15,000 Palestinians have packed the U.N.'s 23 Gaza schools because their homes were destroyed or to flee the violence. The U.N. provided the Israeli military with GPS coordinates for all of them.

The three mortar shells that crashed down on the perimeter of the U.N. school struck at midafternoon, when many people in the densely populated camp were outside getting some fresh air, thinking an area around a school was safe.

Images recorded by a cameraman from AP Television News showed crowds fleeing the scene, pavements smeared with blood and battered bodies being carried off by medics and bystanders. A youth who limped away was helped along by several others. Sandals lay scattered on the pavement by a pock-marked wall.

"There's nowhere safe in Gaza. Everyone here is terrorized and traumatized," said John Ging, head of Gaza operations for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency.

An Israeli military statement said it received intelligence that the dead at the girls school included Hamas operatives, among them members of a rocket-launching squad. It identified two of them as Imad Abu Askar and Hassan Abu Askar.

Two residents who spoke to an AP reporter by phone said the two brothers were known to be low-level Hamas militants. They said a group of militants _ one of them said four _ were firing mortar shells from near the school.

An Israeli shell targeted the men, but missed and they fled, the witnesses said. Then another three shells landed nearby, exploding among civilians, they said, refusing to allow their names to be published because they feared for their safety.

A total of 71 Palestinians were killed Tuesday _ with just two confirmed as militants, Gaza health officials said.

An Israeli infant was wounded by one of about two dozen rockets fired into southern Israel by Gaza militants.

Eleven Israelis have been killed since the offensive began: three civilians and a soldier by rocket fire and seven soldiers in the ground offensive, according to Isaeli officials.

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Associated Press writers Ibrahim Barzak reported this story from Gaza City and Jason Keyser from Jerusalem.

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GAZA CITY, Gaza — France and Egypt announced an initiative to stop the fighting in Gaza late Tuesday, hours after Israeli mortar shells exploded near a U.N. school sheltering hundreds of people ...
GAZA CITY, Gaza — France and Egypt announced an initiative to stop the fighting in Gaza late Tuesday, hours after Israeli mortar shells exploded near a U.N. school sheltering hundreds of people ...
 
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Responseto bisongrad 2000 12:57 PM;01/12/2009
"From racist to warmonger. "- You can certainly speak English. I'm not sure why you're struggling so much with basic grammatical concepts. I did use the word "controlled." Well, one of you did : - ) ""�incompetent leaders. " They both do not care and are incompetent leaders. I'm not sure how this advances your argument. "It is not Israels responsibility to care about the welfare of the Palestinian people�." They absolutely have theresponsibility so long as they are the occupying power. Where are you coming up with this stuff?P.S.-be careful you forgotthe inverted commas .You are assuming I haveno familiarity with war theory(Just like many assumptions you'veuncleverly made that have turned out false)Firstly, ashumanity, we have come a long way since Sun Tzuand von Clausewitz (though you're arguments may not have) and secondly your premise that military theory exclusively provides the answer to the problem of Palestinian civilians is proposed without any rhyme orreason and is absolutely unsupported. You may think toyourself, you're the only one being pragmatic about the situation but you sound more naïve than anyone here. This is not "good" vs"evil". You'vebeen reading to many military theorists and watching too many Hollywood movies. This a geo-political struggle between two sets of bad guys and the poor and innocent, as always, endup suffering. Military theory just explains what people were thinking when they wage war- nothing more. You need to expand your understanding beyond this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 01/12/2009

I never said anything about good or evil. I base my opinion on having travelled to the region multiple times, not on Hollywood movies. I did acknowledge that I said "controlled." Why are you still going on about that? As for Geneva IV, I mistakenly only quoted an ammendment. You are correct on the whole article. Problem is, that section applies to occupied territory, which is territory belonging to one state occupied by another. You can't apply these articles because "due to the uncertainty within the international community as to the existence or non-existence of a State of Palestine" http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/WebSign?ReadForm&id=375&ps=P

I don't know what you are talking about with the inverted commas. There is probably a typesetting issue there. I would probably blame that on Microsoft.

I will boil down my position for the last time. Hamas picked a fight that they know they cannot win. Whether your cause is just or not, you do not attack an adversary that you have zero chance of defeating. If you attack someone, they will counter with what they have. It is insane to expect your sworn enemy to hold back if you have sworn their destruction. I think is unreasonable for us to be mad at Israel for dealing with the rocket problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 01/12/2009

One last thing, unless you are an Ex-Pat African American living in Queensland, your profile picture makes you what we call here in the states a "poser." Meant as friendly advice, but you'll probably take it as an insult. You stay black now, fight the power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 01/12/2009
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PART 1/2- Your initial thought is to attacking- that's the mindset of a warmonger. It's hard to tend to your people when your entire infrastructure is held hostage by a country that does not want you there. You keep telling me that Hamas is acting fooolishly. I agree. I told you I agree several posts ago. You can let go of that talking point. You could have let that one go from the beginning.How very convenient re the uncertainty as to the existence of Palestine, so that International law doesn’t apply. Absolute cop out. Maybe you should go back to the spirit of the article- to protect civilians rather than try and excuse a breach on a technicality. Such last resort arguments have little weight.What would I have Israel do? Pull out of the settlements. Allow free travel within the occupied territories. Provide compensation for the dispossessed. Provide infrastructure for the Palestinians to be able to live self-sufficiently. Allow a right of return for Palestinians. Reverse all laws that discriminate against Palestinians. Enact a two-state solution (although in my mind a one state solution is the answer). I can go on.. Your premise is that military theory should be deffered to when analysing the situation of Palestinian casulaties. What does travelling to the region have to do with that fundamental premise?.

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PART 2/2- I'm not still going on about "controlled". I said "one of you" who are contributing to this account did it. Than I added a smiley face. You need to calm down buddy.How convenient that the inverted commas only appear around the words Palestine and Palestinian. Seriously, you can at least be honest if not wise.
I heard your opinion and you can boil it down as much as you want, it's still nonsense when innocent civilians are involved. Since you haven't responded to my arguments, I will assume you have no response. Am I supposed to be impressed with your ability to determine an IP address? You need to calm down. I obviously got under your skin if you went to all that trouble. I'm flattered. Second, you don’t know the first thing about me and what that picture means in my context so you are once again making uneducated and incorrect assumptions (which people tend to do when frustrated and out of ideas). But seriously, this is not the forum to be flirting with me. Please don’t use the words "Stay black" and "fight the power" in such a condescending manner. They have historical and cultural meaning to African Americans and your flippant and sarcastic use of them is quite derogatory and offensive. You should take a deep breath and calm down. Regards, Posie Poser.

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PART 1/2 Your initial thought is to attacking- that's the mindset of a warmonger. It's hard to tend to your people when your entire infrastructure is held hostage by a country that does not want you there. You keep telling me that Hamas is acting fooolishly. I agree. I told you I agree several posts ago. You can let go of that talking point. You could have let that one go from the beginning.How very convenient re the uncertainty as to the existence of Palestine, so that International law doesn’t apply. Absolute cop out. Maybe you should go back to the spirit of the article- to protect civilians rather than try and excuse a breach on a technicality. Such last resort arguments have little weight.What would I have Israel do? Pull out of the settlements. Allow free travel within the occupied territories. Provide compensation for the dispossessed. Provide infrastructure for the Palestinians to be able to live self-sufficiently. Allow a right of return for Palestinians. Reverse all laws that discriminate against Palestinians. Enact a two-state solution (although in my mind a one state solution is the answer). I can go on.. Your premise is that military theory should be deffered to when analysing the situation of Palestinian casulaties. What does travelling to the region have to do with that fundamental premise?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 01/12/2009
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This war on the people of Gaza isn’t really about rockets. Nor is it about “restoring Israel’s deterrence,” as the Israeli press might have you believe. Far more revealing are the words of Moshe Yaalon, then the Israeli Defense Forces chief of staff, in 2002: “The Palestinians must be made to understand in the deepest recesses of their consciousness that they are a defeated people.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 01/12/2009

"This war on the people of Gaza isn’t really about rockets. Nor is it about “restoring Israel’s deterrence,” as the Israeli press might have you believe. Far more revealing are the words of Moshe Yaalon, then the Israeli Defense Forces chief of staff, in 2002: “The Palestinians must be made to understand in the deepest recesses of their consciousness that they are a defeated people.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 01/12/2009
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"Israeli defence officials are now saying one of the deadliest recent incidents in Gaza, when a UN school was bombed, was caused by a stray mortar. "

"The dropping of the defence that Hamas mortars had come from within the school compound may cause some embarrassment to Israel in what has been a high profile incident.

The initial "human shield" claim was made forcefully after the killings by the military, politicians and many supporters of Israel."

The attack killed about 40 Palestinian civilians sheltering at the Fakhura school in Jabaliya on Tuesday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7823204.stm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 01/12/2009
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1. They started it
2. Israel has a right to defend itself
3.They are hiding behind women and children
4. Women and children are strapping on bombs
5. The schools are really ammunition depots
6. There is a certain amount of collateral damage expected
7. They started it

Pretty standard stuff. Isreali- American formula reasoning (or excuses)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 01/07/2009
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Fighting still continuing during truce from both sides

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/12/2008122916531937971.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 01/07/2009
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Israel and Palestinian Authority have accepted FRANCO -EGYPTIAN TRUCE PLAN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 01/07/2009

The problem is Isreal ISNT fighting against the "Palestinian Authority".

Why do they see fit to only insert HAMAS when they seek to justify bombings and killing and then conviniently leave it out when they wanna talk about reaching an agreement.

I thought you negotiate with whoever you are at war with? So is Isreal fighting agiant the "Palestinian Authority?"

By the way,It worries me when "details" of a peace deal are "Classified". Sounds like the information that lead to the Iraq war,they were all "Classified".

We all like peace,so please tell us what is in the peace document.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 01/07/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 01/07/2009
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Once in a while,I see video of an Israeli munition that explodes before it hits the ground,and a shower of...somet­hing...hit­s the ground instead. Are those cluster bombs? Are we actually seeing cluster bombs being used on national TV without comment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 01/07/2009

i dont know but thats a good question, i hope someone answers it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 AM on 01/07/2009
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Post a link to the video.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 01/07/2009
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It looks like a 'white' phosphorus bomb - elemental phosphorus explodes and burns like that. I thought there was an international treaty banning white phosphorus ordnance because it burns, burns, burns and it can't be extinguished. If it lands on personnel, it will burn right through - gruesome, but true. I don't know what it is, but that's what it looks like.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 01/07/2009
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update to previous comment: white phosphorus it is...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5470047.ece

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 01/07/2009
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Right on, Dogmanger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 01/07/2009
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Eminent Israeli scholars and other prominent citizen's of Israel have petitioned for the international community to stop the brutality of the current Israeli regime against the Palestine people and its elected Goverment, Hamas.

http://mostlywater.org/israeli_citizens_call_upon_international_community_stop_israel

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 01/07/2009
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The US has used the excuse of bombing schools, hospitals, farms, weddings because the enemy likes to use civilians as shields-- I don't buy into that. Israel is using the same "reason" to justify civilian slaughter. It's a tired excuse and one no reasonable human being should believe. Either we borrowed that reasoning from them or we offered to let them use it from us. Either way, this is genocide and a continuation of war crimes we are allowing and they are committing. All civilized countries need to step up to the plate and stop this insanity. You can't tell me if that occurred the US and Israel wouldn't sit up and take notice. We are only a super power because of the cowardice of the world failing to stand up and stop all our illegal activities around the globe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 01/07/2009
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Is Hamas strapping bombs to children and training them for suicide killings at this school?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 AM on 01/07/2009
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Um, no. It's a UN school.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 01/07/2009

Collective punishment is standard Israeli policy. Moshe Dayan said it best....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3526/3176827600_ef7469fbb1_o.jpg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 AM on 01/07/2009
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"was a response to mortar fire from within the school"

The headline on this article is misleading. It should read, "Hamas gets 30 people killed by firing mortar from school."

This tragic incident is completely the responsibility of Hamas. Why don't they just turn their guns on their own people as al-Qaeda and the Taliban do? Hamas is willing to kill its own people in order to gain a bogus headline.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 AM on 01/07/2009
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As you are internet-enabled why don't you read the media outside USA MSM and get an education. Your comments are truly disgusting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 01/07/2009
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If that's true, then why is Israel refusing to let the UN investigate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 AM on 01/07/2009
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and deny doctors, humanitarian aide, electricity, food, money, and most importantly

journalist too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 01/07/2009
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The Israelis have trotted out the same excuse for innumerable massacres in the recent past.Difficult to comprehend? then read this it might enlighten you.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-why-do-they-hate-the-west-so-much-we-will-ask-1230046.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 01/07/2009
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Did you people not read the article? Direct from Gaza City...

"Two residents who spoke to an AP reporter by phone said the two brothers were known to be low-level Hamas militants. They said a group of militants _ one of them said four _ were firing mortar shells from near the school."

If Hamas wants peace, it is easy enough to get. Quit firing rockets, surrender and give up the weapons. Shooting from behind women and children is only going to get them killed. Grow a clue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 01/07/2009

There is no way to make sense of Israel's senseless war against Gaza.

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