Gaza Talks In Cairo Thursday (UPDATES, VIDEO)

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Huffington Post   |  Hanna Ingber Win   |   January 7, 2009 05:30 PM

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UPDATE: 1/7 5:30 pm

Israel, Hamas and the Palestinian Authority will meet Thursday to negotiate a cease-fire plan, reports the AP.

UNITED NATIONS -- Egypt's U.N. ambassador says representatives of Israel, the Palestinian Authority and Hamas have agreed to meet Thursday for talks in Cairo on the Gaza crisis.


Ambassador Maged Abdelaziz says all the parties agreed to send technical delegations to discuss an Egyptian-French initiative to end the fighting in Gaza.

Details of the plan aren't clear, but the initiative calls for a limited cease-fire in the Israeli-Hamas fighting to allow humanitarian aid into Gaza.

UPDATE: 1/7 3 pm

Israel increased its anti-tunnel operation on Wednesday night and captured 120 suspected Hamas fighters, the Jerusalem Post reports.

Tunnel openings are frequently hidden inside houses and Palestinians reported that by 9 p.m., 30 homes had been destroyed. According to Channel 10, the army said that anti-tunnel operations would continue through the night.

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IDF Spokesman Brig. Gen. Avi Benayahu said 120 suspected Hamas fighters had been captured. He also said soldiers conducting searches had uncovered many explosive devices and tunnels. "We uncovered many tunnels for kidnapping soldiers, at least one car bomb, booby trapped dolls, tunnels - an underground city," Benyahu told Channel 10.

Hamas's mortar squads are using this network of tunnels to attack Israeli forces, reports the Daily Telegraph. It reports that this is a different set of tunnels from that used to smuggle food and weapons into Gaza from Egypt.

The squads - led by fighters believed to have been trained in Lebanon and Iran - are based inside intricate tunnel networks that can be accessed from mosques, Hamas commanders homes and public buildings. In close combat fighting, Hamas operatives use the tunnel layout to lure Israel soldiers into ambushes where they could be captured or killed.

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The advantages of tunnels for guerrilla fighters has been well known since the Vietnam War. Hamas has used its time as master of Gaza - it drove out the rivals Fattah organisation from the strip in 2007 - to prepare defences against an Israeli incursion.

The AP reports that last year's US-funded plan to disrupt the tunnels between Gaza and Egypt had little effect.

RAFAH, Egypt -- Angry at Hamas' ability to fire rockets at Israel, the United States last year allocated $23 million to help train Egyptian officials to stop the smuggling into Gaza through tunnels at a border plagued by crisis and corruption.


Months later, there is little noticeable effect: Smuggling has continued at a robust pace, allowing Hamas militants in Gaza to gain rockets to shoot at Israeli citizens. Israel's military says about 300 tunnels ran under the Gaza-Egypt border before its military offensive began Dec. 27. Since then, Israel has bombed dozens of them.

The story of the U.S.-funded program and its lack of impact on the problem is a cautionary tale of how hard it has been to control Gaza's border with Egypt _ at a time when patrolling that frontier and stopping the weapons flow are once again hot issues as mediators seek a cease-fire in Gaza.

Previous attempts to close the tunnels have largely failed, partly because of the mutual mistrust between Israel and Egypt and partly because of Egypt's inability to rein in corruption and alleviate poverty in the Sinai. The region near Gaza is home to tens of thousands of mostly disaffected Bedouin. Many of these nomads earn their living through smuggling.

Some critics say Egypt has never undertaken a truly robust effort because it hopes to use the issue to gain something it wants in turn: the right to deploy troops at the Sinai border, which was denied under the 1979 Camp David Accords. Egyptian officials also have been leery of making the border with Gaza truly normal and functioning, fearing an influx of Palestinian militancy into Egypt.


UPDATE: 1/7 12:30 pm

Israel will allow regular suspensions of its military operation on Gaza to permit humanitarian aid into the area, AP reports. It also tentatively welcomed a proposal for a cease-fire.

The Israeli military said a humanitarian corridor into Gaza will be opened at least every other day for a few hours, depending on the security situation.


Col. Moshe Levi, a Gaza liaison officer, told reporters the plan is to open the corridor daily. Peter Lerner, a military spokesman, said the corridor would more likely be open every other day, depending on security.

Haaretz reports that a top Israeli defense official will travel to Cairo for intense negotiations that begin Thursday.

A political source in Jerusalem said that the negotiations would focus on an international proposal for a security agreement over the contentious Philadelphi Route, on the Egypt-Gaza border, where Hamas militants have been digging tunnels for smuggling arms and militants.

Meanwhile, the political-security cabinet decided on Wednesday to push ahead with its ground operation, despite growing efforts to reach a truce between Israel and the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.

But as diplomatic pressure intensifies, the fighting continues, Al Jazeera reports.

On Wednesday, 11 Palestinians were killed by air strikes and shelling in Gaza City and in the north of the Strip.


Explosions were also reported in Jabaliya and Beit Lahia, north of Gaza, as around eight rockets were fired from Gaza into southern Israel. No Israeli injuries have been reported following the rocket attacks.

Earlier 1/7

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French President Nicolas Sarkozy has announced that Israel and the Palestinians have accepted a Egyptian-French peace plan -- but Hamas denies that a deal has been struck, reports CBS News.

In Syria, a spokesman for Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal told CBS News' George Baghdadi soon after Sarkozy's comments were made public that the militant group did not accept the terms of the Egyptian-French plan.


Spokesman Abu Omar said Hamas could only agree to a plan which guaranteed to end the economic blockade and to reopen the border crossings as soon as hostilities on both sides were halted; what he called a "complete package."






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Israel resumed its Gaza offensive Wednesday, bombing heavily around suspected smuggling tunnels near the border with Egypt after a three-hour lull to allow in humanitarian aid. Hamas responded with a rocket barrage. Despite the heavy fighting, strides were made on the diplomatic front with the U.S. throwing its weight behind a deal being brokered by France and Egypt.

While the Security Council failed to reach agreement on a cease-fire resolution, Egypt's U.N. Ambassador Maged Abdelaziz said representatives of Israel, Hamas and the Palestinian Authority have agreed to meet separately with Egyptian officials in Cairo Thursday.

Israeli airstrikes killed 29 Palestinians on Wednesday after leaflets were dropped warning residents to leave the area "because Hamas uses your houses to hide and smuggle military weapons."

The casualties brought the total Palestinian death toll during Israel's 12-day assault to 688 and drove home the complexities of finding a diplomatic endgame for Israel's Gaza invasion. Ten Israelis have been killed, including three civilians, since the offensive began Dec. 27.

More than 5,000 people have fled the border area, seeking refuge at two U.N. schools turned into temporary shelters.

The fury of the renewed fighting made it appear each side was scrambling to get in as many hits as possible before a truce could materialize.

"I feel like the ground is shaking when we hear the shelling. People are terrified," said Fida Kishta, a resident of the Gaza-Egypt border area where Israeli planes destroyed 16 empty houses.

In Turkey, a Mideast diplomat who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly said that country would be asked to put together an international force that could help keep the peace. And diplomats in New York worked on a U.N. Security Council statement backing the cease-fire initiative but failed to reach agreement on action to end the violence.

"We are very much applauding the efforts of a number of states, particularly the effort that President (Hosni) Mubarak has undertaken on behalf of Egypt," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said. "We're supporting that initiative."

The army, which has refused to allow journalists into Gaza, permitted two TV teams to accompany soldiers on patrol for the first time. The footage showed soldiers walking through a deserted street in an unidentified location in Gaza.

The Israeli military correspondent who accompanied the soldiers said they were concerned about Hamas booby-traps. He said they were shooting through walls, throwing grenades around corners, going from house to house looking for Hamas gunmen and using bomb sniffer dogs. Buildings showed bullet and shrapnel marks. "We used a lot of fire," said an officer in the group, Lt. Col. Ofer.

Hamas, meanwhile, fired rockets, though at a slower pace than previous days, hitting the towns of Ashkelon and Beersheba with the sort of longer range missiles never seen before this war. Rockets were still hitting the cities after midnight, but there were no immediate reports of injury.

Despite the violence, a surprise announcement in Paris on Wednesday put a spotlight on diplomacy.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy said that both Israel and the Palestinian Authority had accepted the cease-fire deal, but he made no mention of Hamas, without whom no truce could work. The Palestinian Authority controls only the West Bank while Hamas rules Gaza -- two territories on opposite sides of Israel that are supposed to make up a future Palestinian state.

Later, Israeli officials made it clear Sarkozy's statement was not exactly accurate.

"Israel welcomes the initiative of the French president and the Egyptian president to bring about a sustainable quiet in the south," said Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev.

But for Israel to accept the proposal, he said, "there has to be a total and complete cessation of all hostile fire from Gaza into Israel, and ... we have to see an arms embargo on Hamas that will receive international support."

For its part, Hamas said it would not accept a truce deal unless it includes an end to the Israeli blockade of Gaza -- something Israel says it is not willing to do.

"There must be guarantees to ensure Israel will not breach this package, including halting the aggression, lifting the blockade and opening the crossings," said Ghazi Hamad, a senior Hamas adviser.

Growing international outrage over the human toll of Israel's offensive, which includes 3,000 Palestinians wounded -- could work against continued fighting. So could President Bush's departure from office this month and a Feb. 10 election in Israel.

But Israel has a big interest in inflicting as much damage as possible on Hamas, both to stop militant rocket fire on southern Israeli towns and to diminish the group's ability to play a spoiler role in peace talks with Palestinian moderates.

The Israeli Cabinet formally decided on Wednesday to push ahead with the offensive while at the same time pursuing the cease-fire option. Israeli officials also rejected Hamas' call to open the border crossings, which Israel has largely kept closed since the group seized the territory by force in June 2007.

The military has called up thousands of reserve troops that it could use to expand the Gaza offensive. Defense officials said the troops could be ready for action by Friday.

Still, Israel briefly suspended its offensive Wednesday to allow humanitarian supplies to reach Gaza, and Israeli officials said such lulls would be declared on a regular basis.

The announcement came among growing warnings by the World Bank and aid groups of a humanitarian crisis. The Word Bank pointed to a severe shortage of drinking water and said the sewage system is under growing strain.

Solafa Odeh, a resident of the northern Gaza Strip town of Beit Lahia, said around 100 people in her community were lining up for fresh water outside a local grocery store Wednesday. "We were only allowed half a gallon each, and I saw some people walk away with their jerry cans empty," Odeh said.

Of the 688 Palestinians killed since Dec. 27, some 350 were civilians, among them 130 children, according to Palestinian officials.

During Wednesday's lull, Israel allowed in 80 trucks of supplies as well as industrial fuel for Gaza's power plant. Medics tried to retrieve bodies in areas that had previously been too dangerous to approach.

The Palestinian Red Crescent said in a statement that one of its ambulance drivers was shot by Israeli soldiers during the lull. The Israeli military said it had no knowledge of the incident.

Medic Mohammed Azayzeh in central Gaza pulled out three people, killed by shrapnel fire Sunday, from the border town of Mughraqa, where Israeli tanks had settled nearby. The medic said he also found a dead family of three, including a father cradling a 1-year-old boy.

In the Jebaliya refugee camp, residents on Wednesday held a mass funeral for 40 people killed a day before by Israeli mortar fire toward a U.N. school. Israel says Hamas militants fired mortar shells from an area near the school, and that Israeli responded to this attack.

The bodies, wrapped in blankets, were laid out in a long row on the ground, with mourners kneeling in Muslim prayer before them. Among the mourners was Mushir al-Masri, a Hamas legislator.

Also Wednesday, Israel released footage of suspected Hamas militants captured by Israeli troops. Israel's chief army spokesman, Brig. Gen. Avi Benayahu, said 120 suspected militants have been captured. He also said soldiers conducting searches have uncovered many explosive devices and tunnels.

"We uncovered many tunnels for kidnapping soldiers, at least one car bomb, booby trapped dolls, tunnels -- an underground city," Benyahu said on Israel TV's Channel 10.


Scroll down for video, photos UPDATE: 1/7 5:30 pm Israel, Hamas and the Palestinian Authority will meet Thursday to negotiate a cease-fire plan, reports the AP. UNITED NATIONS -- Egypt's U.N. ambas...
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The following link to BBC News about a Red Cross statement is very disturbing and shocking.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7817926.stm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 01/08/2009
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Vatican Justice and Peace Official calls Gaza a "Big Concentration Camp

The President of the Vatican's Council for Justice, Cardinal Renato Martino has issued the Vatican"s harshest criticism of Israel in an interview published in Italian newspaper calling Gaza a "big concentration camp" .

The Cardinal told Il Sussidiario.net "Defenseless populations are always the ones who pay. Look at the conditions in Gaza: more and more, it resembles a big concentration camp".

So far the Pope Benedict XVI has kept comments on the recent siege of Gaza to general appeals for an end to the violence making the comments the harshest to emanate from the Vatican thus far .

http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=76090

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 AM on 01/08/2009
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The Holes in Israel's Web 2.0 Propaganda

http://www.prwatch.org/node/8112

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 AM on 01/08/2009
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At least 3 missiles landed in Israel from Lebanon... hezbollah?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 AM on 01/08/2009

It appears that now, Lebanon is firing some rockets into Northern Israel:

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5053R720090108

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 AM on 01/08/2009

The rockets are coming in from Lebanon and not a peep from any of the anti-Israel crowd denouncing this. Thanks for showing your true colors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 AM on 01/08/2009
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Here is what is truly needed in order for Americans to understand what is happening in the Middle East - Joe the Plumber and his new job as Joe the War Correspondent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8t9S0uYVN8

And remember...he's Christian, so everything'll work out fine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 AM on 01/08/2009

He is going to Israel to cover the story from the perspective of everyday Israelis, to show their plight and the threats to their daily lives. It is pretty clear from Joe's mind who is the victim and who plays the antagonist. Again, this is all part of proliferating the psyche that Judeao/Christian tradition good, Muslims bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 AM on 01/08/2009
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyIKyd2gqA

Take a look at what REAL courage looks like as this American woman stands in front of an Israeli soldier shooting at rock-throwing Palestinians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 AM on 01/08/2009

You are so ridiculous. She would have never had tried that with a Hamas terrorist. It doesn't take any courage to stage a filmed incident with Israeli troops who are trained not to purposely kill civilians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 AM on 01/08/2009
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When you have a Palestinian kid facing a fully armed Israeli soldier, how do you explain that the Soldier is actually David and the kid is Goliath?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 01/08/2009

She could've also told the Pa lestinian youth that it's not smart to throw stones at soldiers. A nicely thrown stone can cause enough damage to kill. This one-sided bs needs to stop. Both sides are engaged in violence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 AM on 01/08/2009
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Sorry, but gun trumps rock.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 01/09/2009
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Part 2

He also admitted that Israelipoliticians were indeed deceitful in all the peace processes since they continued moving forward with the settlements because really they themselves think the two-state solution will never happen, many like Netanyahudon't want it to happen and why not continue usurping land?

He also called the two-state solutions peace processes, multi-billion dollar businesses which basically drain funds and go nowhere. It's interesting to see, that while so many argue that ethnic cleansing and apartheidare not taking place there, Israelisamongst themselves know exactly what's going on and have no problem admitting it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-glMLh9zV_U

When you think that this country has been pouring money intoIsrael and getting this result, it just boggles the mind, and that's putting it mildly!Bob Simon of 60 Minutes is Jewishand he will be airing a segment soon on the "impossibility" of the two-state solution. What he said is that right now Israelis are headed down the road towards apartheid. In 3 years the population of Palestinians will have surpassed Jewsand and the situation will become similar to South Africa where the privileged minority exert power and repression over the underpriviledged majority. If we all take our blinders off; it's already happening and he just about stated as much. He should know -- he's been living inIsrael.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 01/08/2009
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Bob Simon of 60 Minutes is Jewishand he will be airing a segment soon on the "impossibility" of the two-state solution. What he said is that right now Israelis are headed down the road towardsapartheid. In 3 years the population ofPalestinians will have surpassed Jewsand and the situation will become similar to South Africa where the privileged minority exert power and repression over the underpriviledged majority. If we all take our blinders off; it's already happening and he just about stated as much. He should know -- he's been living inIsrael.

His statements motivated me to investigate further and I came across this video on youtube where an Israeli scholar is speaking toIsraelis on a so-called one state solution, which in my opinion is pure fantasy and "utopia", however, the point isn't that. In that discussion both he and certain members of his audience who querried him actually admit that ethnic cleansing has taken place, is on their minds, and that if a one state solution with equal rights of power is not agreed upon then Israelwill indeed become an apartheidstate.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 01/08/2009
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Some quotes from Ben-Gurion, the legendary leader of Israel.

"The acceptance of partition does not commit us to renounce Transjordan: one does not demand from anybody to give up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today, but the boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concern of the Jewish people and no external factor will be able to limit them." -- 1937 speech on a partition proposed by the British.

"To maintain the status quo will not do. We have to set up a dynamic state bent upon expansion." -- From his book "Rebirth and Destiny of Israel", 1954.

Since the creation of Israel, every single Prime Minister has been white ethnic slavic or ethnic eastern european. Even the modern leaders, like Netanyahu, are 2nd generation Israeli immigrants from eastern europe. He may have been born there, but ethnically he is not Israeli, or even Jewish.

The question for me is, why is it illegal in Israel for the darker skinned, ethnic Israelis, to serve in government?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 01/08/2009

640 innocent civilians dead is a "military operation?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 01/08/2009

I soon expect to see a headline that says - Hamas, Israel and Palestinian Authority to meet - with Joe the Plumber.............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 01/08/2009

Israel should cease and desist entering Gaza. Israel should simply do exactly what Hamas is doing. Israel should just blindly fire rockets out of Israel, back on roughly the same path that rockets took when Hamas fired rockets into Israel. Israel should actually fire two or three rockets back for every rocket Hamas fires into Israel. The more rockets fired back out of Israel, the better. Like Hamas, don"t aim the rockets at any particular military target; just fire them into populated areas, like Hamas is doing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 01/08/2009

The Jewish Holocaust had indeed happened, and today the Israelis commit the Palestinian Holocaust

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 01/08/2009

I read on another comment of yours that the US was to blame for 9-11 and that al-Qaeda have never targeted innocent civilians - just like Hamas.
Your integrity is at stake here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 01/08/2009

I stand corrected. It wasn't you who wrote about al-Qaeda and 9-11 and thanks a lot for acknowledging that the Jewish Holocaust did occur - it makes me feel so much better, so your integrity is restored. But you quote from the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion, which has been proven by respected international scholars, both Jewish and non-Jewish, to be a forgery, a fraud, and a hoax, as well as a clear case of plagiarism, so there goes your integrity again

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 01/08/2009

Hamas is killing the Palestinians. There is absolutely no comparison with the Holocaust. And if you were actually informed about the situation, you would know that Jordan killed more Palestinians during Black September that Israel has in the last sixty years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 AM on 01/08/2009

There is no comparison. The Jews in Europe were quietly living their lives not launching rockets and suicide bombings against the non-Jewish Europeans. At the same time, non-Jewish Europeans were telling Jews to go back to the Holy Land. At least the anti-semites in Europe recognized Jewish right to the land of Israel. If the Jews had fought back during WWII they'd have been demonized for that. Fortunately the only demons were those that carried out the Holocaust and those that did nothing to stop it. Thankfully now Israel is able to fight back against the anti-semitic Islamists crowd who believe only Muslims are entitled to the Middle East. And lets not forget that the Jews did not choose to leave the Holy Land. They were forced to. Why do they have no right of return?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 AM on 01/08/2009
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