Obama Economic Speech: Warns Of Dire Consequences Without Stimulus

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AP   |  JENNIFER LOVEN   |   January 8, 2009 08:26 AM

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President-elect Barack Obama warned of dire and lasting consequences if Congress doesn't pump unprecedented dollars into the economy, making an urgent pitch for his mammoth spending proposal in his first speech since his election.

"In short, a bad situation could become dramatically worse" if Washington doesn't go far enough to address the spreading crisis, Obama said as fresh economic reports showed an outlook growing increasingly grim.

Since his November election, he has deferred to President George W. Bush on foreign policy matters such as the Middle East. But, with the urgency of the economic crisis, Obama has waded deeply into domestic issues as he works to generate support for his plan to create jobs, jolt the economy and make long-term investments in other areas.

Obama laid out goals of doubling the production of alternative energy over three years, updating most federal buildings to improve energy efficiency, making medical records electronic, expanding broadband networks and updating schools and universities.

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WASHINGTON (AP) _ President-elect Barack Obama said Thursday the recession could "linger for years" unless Congress pumps unprecedented sums from Washington into the economy, making his highest-profile case yet on an issue certain to define and dominate his early presidency.

"I don't believe it's too late to change course, but it will be if we don't take dramatic action as soon as possible," Obama said in a speech set to be delivered at George Mason University in Fairfax, Va., outside Washington. Excerpts from his prepared text were released in advance by his transition team.

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It was the fourth day in a row that Obama has made a pitch for a huge infusion of taxpayer dollars to revive the sinking economy he will inherit from President George W. Bush.

Obama's events have increasingly taken on the trappings and air of the presidency, with the speech _ coming a full 12 days before he takes over at the White House _ a particularly showy move. Presidents-elect typically stick to naming administration appointments and otherwise staying in the background during the transition period between Election Day and Inauguration Day, but Obama has clearly made the calculation that a nation anxious about its economic outlook and eager to bid farewell to Bush needs to hear from him differently and more frequently.

"A bad situation could become dramatically worse," Obama said, painting a dire picture _ including double-digit unemployment and $1 trillion in lost economic activity _ that recalled the days of the Great Depression in the 1930s.

Indeed, the economic news is grim.

Consumers and companies are folding under the negative forces of a collapsed housing market, a global credit crunch and the worst financial crisis since the 1930s. The recession, which started in December 2007, already is the longest in a quarter-century.

A report that came out the same day as Obama's speech showed that the number of people continuing to draw jobless benefits unexpectedly rose sharply to the highest level since November 1982, demonstrating the troubles the unemployed are having in finding new jobs.

And unemployment figures due out Friday are expected to show that the U.S. lost a net total of 500,000 jobs in December. If accurate, that would bring 2008's total job losses to 2.4 million, the first annual job loss since 2001 and the highest since 1945, though the number of jobs has more than tripled since then.

Speaking a day after the release of a stunning new estimate _ that the federal budget deficit will reach an unprecedented $1.2 trillion this year, nearly three times last year's record _ Obama acknowledged some sympathy with those who "might be skeptical" of the stimulus. Vast sums already have been spent or committed by Washington in an attempt _ largely unsuccessful so far _ to get credit, the lifeblood of the American economy, flowing freely once again.

Such statements are coded to appeal to budget hawks in both parties, whom Obama wants to win over so that approval of a package draws wide, bipartisan support in the Democratic-led Congress.

To answer their concerns, he promised to allow funding only for what works. He also pledged a new level of transparency about where the money is going. A day earlier, he promised to tackle the out-of-control fiscal problem posed by Social Security and Medicare entitlement programs and named a special watchdog to clamp down on all federal programs.

Obama made broader arguments, too, saying that the private sector, typically the answer, cannot do what is needed now.

"At this particular moment, only government can provide the short-term boost necessary to lift us from a recession this deep and severe," he said.

Obama's transition team and Democratic congressional leaders are working daily to hammer out the still-evolving package, expected to total nearly $800 billion. The initial hope had been to have a new stimulus package approved by Congress in time for Obama to sign it upon taking office on Jan. 20. That timeline has slipped considerably, into at least mid-February if not later.

The package is expected to include tax cuts for businesses and middle-class workers, money to help cash-starved states with Medicaid programs and other operating costs, and a huge share for infrastructure building, investments in energy efficiency and a rebuilding of the information technology system for health care. Much of the latter portions of the plan are aimed at what Obama likes to talk about as the need for "reinvestment" and not just "recovery."

Obama also promised action to address the economy's ills beyond the package, such as tackling the massive wave of home foreclosures many experts expect, preventing the failure of financial institutions, rewriting financial regulations and keeping accountable the "Wall Street wrongdoers" who engage in risky investing.


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Remarks of President-Elect Barack Obama

As Prepared for Delivery

American Recovery and Reinvestment

Thursday, January 8, 2009

Throughout America's history, there have been some years that simply rolled into the next without much notice or fanfare. Then there are the years that come along once in a generation - the kind that mark a clean break from a troubled past, and set a new course for our nation.

This is one of those years.

We start 2009 in the midst of a crisis unlike any we have seen in our lifetime - a crisis that has only deepened over the last few weeks. Nearly two million jobs have now been lost, and on Friday we are likely to learn that we lost more jobs last year than at any time since World War II. Just in the past year, another 2.8 million Americans who want and need full-time work have had to settle for part-time jobs. Manufacturing has hit a twenty-eight year low. Many businesses cannot borrow or make payroll. Many families cannot pay their bills or their mortgage. Many workers are watching their life savings disappear. And many, many Americans are both anxious and uncertain of what the future will hold.

I don't believe it's too late to change course, but it will be if we don't take dramatic action as soon as possible. If nothing is done, this recession could linger for years. The unemployment rate could reach double digits. Our economy could fall $1 trillion short of its full capacity, which translates into more than $12,000 in lost income for a family of four. We could lose a generation of potential and promise, as more young Americans are forced to forgo dreams of college or the chance to train for the jobs of the future. And our nation could lose the competitive edge that has served as a foundation for our strength and standing in the world.

In short, a bad situation could become dramatically worse.

This crisis did not happen solely by some accident of history or normal turn of the business cycle, and we won't get out of it by simply waiting for a better day to come, or relying on the worn-out dogmas of the past. We arrived at this point due to an era of profound irresponsibility that stretched from corporate boardrooms to the halls of power in Washington, DC. For years, too many Wall Street executives made imprudent and dangerous decisions, seeking profits with too little regard for risk, too little regulatory scrutiny, and too little accountability. Banks made loans without concern for whether borrowers could repay them, and some borrowers took advantage of cheap credit to take on debt they couldn't afford. Politicians spent taxpayer money without wisdom or discipline, and too often focused on scoring political points instead of the problems they were sent here to solve. The result has been a devastating loss of trust and confidence in our economy, our financial markets, and our government.

Now, the very fact that this crisis is largely of our own making means that it is not beyond our ability to solve. Our problems are rooted in past mistakes, not our capacity for future greatness. It will take time, perhaps many years, but we can rebuild that lost trust and confidence. We can restore opportunity and prosperity. We should never forget that our workers are still more productive than any on Earth. Our universities are still the envy of the world. We are still home to the most brilliant minds, the most creative entrepreneurs, and the most advanced technology and innovation that history has ever known. And we are still the nation that has overcome great fears and improbable odds. If we act with the urgency and seriousness that this moment requires, I know that we can do it again.

That is why I have moved quickly to work with my economic team and leaders of both parties on an American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan that will immediately jumpstart job creation and long-term growth.

It's a plan that represents not just new policy, but a whole new approach to meeting our most urgent challenges. For if we hope to end this crisis, we must end the culture of anything goes that helped create it - and this change must begin in Washington. It is time to trade old habits for a new spirit of responsibility. It is time to finally change the ways of Washington so that we can set a new and better course for America.

There is no doubt that the cost of this plan will be considerable. It will certainly add to the budget deficit in the short-term. But equally certain are the consequences of doing too little or nothing at all, for that will lead to an even greater deficit of jobs, incomes, and confidence in our economy. It is true that we cannot depend on government alone to create jobs or long-term growth, but at this particular moment, only government can provide the short-term boost necessary to lift us from a recession this deep and severe. Only government can break the vicious cycles that are crippling our economy - where a lack of spending leads to lost jobs which leads to even less spending; where an inability to lend and borrow stops growth and leads to even less credit.

That is why we need to act boldly and act now to reverse these cycles. That's why we need to put money in the pockets of the American people, create new jobs, and invest in our future. That's why we need to re-start the flow of credit and restore the rules of the road that will ensure a crisis like this never happens again.

That work begins with this plan - a plan I am confident will save or create at least three million jobs over the next few years. It is not just another public works program. It's a plan that recognizes both the paradox and the promise of this moment - the fact that there are millions of Americans trying to find work, even as, all around the country, there is so much work to be done. That's why we'll invest in priorities like energy and education; health care and a new infrastructure that are necessary to keep us strong and competitive in the 21st century. That's why the overwhelming majority of the jobs created will be in the private sector, while our plan will save the public sector jobs of teachers, cops, firefighters and others who provide vital services.

To finally spark the creation of a clean energy economy, we will double the production of alternative energy in the next three years. We will modernize more than 75% of federal buildings and improve the energy efficiency of two million American homes, saving consumers and taxpayers billions on our energy bills. In the process, we will put Americans to work in new jobs that pay well and can't be outsourced - jobs building solar panels and wind turbines; constructing fuel-efficient cars and buildings; and developing the new energy technologies that will lead to even more jobs, more savings, and a cleaner, safer planet in the bargain.

To improve the quality of our health care while lowering its cost, we will make the immediate investments necessary to ensure that within five years, all of America's medical records are computerized. This will cut waste, eliminate red tape, and reduce the need to repeat expensive medical tests. But it just won't save billions of dollars and thousands of jobs - it will save lives by reducing the deadly but preventable medical errors that pervade our health care system.

To give our children the chance to live out their dreams in a world that's never been more competitive, we will equip tens of thousands of schools, community colleges, and public universities with 21st century classrooms, labs, and libraries. We'll provide new computers, new technology, and new training for teachers so that students in Chicago and Boston can compete with kids in Beijing for the high-tech, high-wage jobs of the future.

To build an economy that can lead this future, we will begin to rebuild America. Yes, we'll put people to work repairing crumbling roads, bridges, and schools by eliminating the backlog of well-planned, worthy and needed infrastructure projects. But we'll also do more to retrofit America for a global economy. That means updating the way we get our electricity by starting to build a new smart grid that will save us money, protect our power sources from blackout or attack, and deliver clean, alternative forms of energy to every corner of our nation. It means expanding broadband lines across America, so that a small business in a rural town can connect and compete with their counterparts anywhere in the world. And it means investing in the science, research, and technology that will lead to new medical breakthroughs, new discoveries, and entire new industries.

Finally, this recovery and reinvestment plan will provide immediate relief to states, workers, and families who are bearing the brunt of this recession. To get people spending again, 95% of working families will receive a $1,000 tax cut - the first stage of a middle-class tax cut that I promised during the campaign and will include in our next budget. To help Americans who have lost their jobs and can't find new ones, we'll continue the bipartisan extensions of unemployment insurance and health care coverage to help them through this crisis. Government at every level will have to tighten its belt, but we'll help struggling states avoid harmful budget cuts, as long as they take responsibility and use the money to maintain essential services like police, fire, education, and health care.

I understand that some might be skeptical of this plan. Our government has already spent a good deal of money, but we haven't yet seen that translate into more jobs or higher incomes or renewed confidence in our economy. That's why the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan won't just throw money at our problems - we'll invest in what works. The true test of the policies we'll pursue won't be whether they're Democratic or Republican ideas, but whether they create jobs, grow our economy, and put the American Dream within reach of the American people.

Instead of politicians doling out money behind a veil of secrecy, decisions about where we invest will be made transparently, and informed by independent experts wherever possible. Every American will be able to hold Washington accountable for these decisions by going online to see how and where their tax dollars are being spent. And as I announced yesterday, we will launch an unprecedented effort to eliminate unwise and unnecessary spending that has never been more unaffordable for our nation and our children's future than it is right now.

We have to make tough choices and smart investments today so that as the economy recovers, the deficit starts to come down. We cannot have a solid recovery if our people and our businesses don't have confidence that we're getting our fiscal house in order. That's why our goal is not to create a slew of new government programs, but a foundation for long-term economic growth.

That also means an economic recovery plan that is free from earmarks and pet projects. I understand that every member of Congress has ideas on how to spend money. Many of these projects are worthy, and benefit local communities. But this emergency legislation must not be the vehicle for those aspirations. This must be a time when leaders in both parties put the urgent needs of our nation above our own narrow interests.

Now, this recovery plan alone will not solve all the problems that led us into this crisis. We must also work with the same sense of urgency to stabilize and repair the financial system we all depend on. That means using our full arsenal of tools to get credit flowing again to families and business, while restoring confidence in our markets. It means launching a sweeping effort to address the foreclosure crisis so that we can keep responsible families in their homes. It means preventing the catastrophic failure of financial institutions whose collapse could endanger the entire economy, but only with maximum protections for taxpayers and a clear understanding that government support for any company is an extraordinary action that must come with significant restrictions on the firms that receive support. And it means reforming a weak and outdated regulatory system so that we can better withstand financial shocks and better protect consumers, investors, and businesses from the reckless greed and risk-taking that must never endanger our prosperity again.

No longer can we allow Wall Street wrongdoers to slip through regulatory cracks. No longer can we allow special interests to put their thumbs on the economic scales. No longer can we allow the unscrupulous lending and borrowing that leads only to destructive cycles of bubble and bust.

It is time to set a new course for this economy, and that change must begin now. We should have an open and honest discussion about this recovery plan in the days ahead, but I urge Congress to move as quickly as possible on behalf of the American people. For every day we wait or point fingers or drag our feet, more Americans will lose their jobs. More families will lose their savings. More dreams will be deferred and denied. And our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that, at some point, we may not be able to reverse.

That is not the country I know, and it is not a future I will accept as President of the United States. A world that depends on the strength of our economy is now watching and waiting for America to lead once more. And that is what we will do.

It will not come easy or happen overnight, and it is altogether likely that things may get worse before they get better. But that is all the more reason for Congress to act without delay. I know the scale of this plan is unprecedented, but so is the severity of our situation. We have already tried the wait-and-see approach to our problems, and it is the same approach that helped lead us to this day of reckoning.

That is why the time has come to build a 21st century economy in which hard work and responsibility are once again rewarded. That's why I'm asking Congress to work with me and my team day and night, on weekends if necessary, to get the plan passed in the next few weeks. That's why I'm calling on all Americans - Democrats and Republicans - to put good ideas ahead of the old ideological battles; a sense of common purpose above the same narrow partisanship; and insist that the first question each of us asks isn't "What's good for me?" but "What's good for the country my children will inherit?"

More than any program or policy, it is this spirit that will enable us to confront this challenge with the same spirit that has led previous generations to face down war, depression, and fear itself. And if we do - if we are able to summon that spirit again; if are able to look out for one another, and listen to one another, and do our part for our nation and for posterity, then I have no doubt that years from now, we will look back on 2009 as one of those years that marked another new and hopeful beginning for the United States of America. Thank you, God Bless You, and may God Bless America.



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To my mind there are several factors that are to blame for missing the economy crisis coming. As reported by Med Yones, the US Economy Seer, who foresaw the current economic crisis in Jan 2007 "Experts missed the crisis because of the groupthink mindset, and the lack of information and misinformation in the mainstream media. In such environment, few have the insight and the courage to tell it as it is, and risk being ridiculed by other industry experts." The Link below provides you with supplementary details.

http://www.ceoqmagazine.com/2009Q1/economics/financialcrisis/index.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 02/04/2009
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I thought he wasn't going to use fear to get what he wanted. Come on. Barack, your advisors may be right, but none of us really know what's going to work and what's not. Be careful of some of those characters around you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 01/09/2009
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Where is the money to pay for all these progams?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 01/09/2009

"We start 2009 in the midst of a crisis unlike any we have seen in our lifetime - a crisis that has only deepened over the last few weeks."

Unlike any in our lifetime? Except for those who lived during the Great Depression. By contrast, from 1929 to 1931 unemployment skyrocketed, eventually hitting 25%. We are now officially a year into a Recession, so while these unemployment rates are alarming, they do not necessarily portend a crisis akin to the Great Depression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 01/09/2009
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/05/opinion/05krugman.html?_r=2

We are sliding over the cliff dude, catch up on current events how bout???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 01/09/2009

I believe the first bailout was a ruse. The Good Democrats had the power to say NO. The bad Republicans won again. This second bailout is a bigger ruse and history will repeat itself. Now we are in a bigger mess. No one can convince me that the Republicans alone destroyed this country. The Good Democrats acquieced.

How can the entire citizenry be so obtuse ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 01/09/2009

Bad Republicans? It's a Congress under the Democrat's control? They are the majority on the Hill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 01/09/2009


And did you forget the 6 years before that ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 01/09/2009
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In retrospect, the economy was never fundamentally strong...oh damn, where is that fly swatter...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 01/09/2009

The US has a $12 trillion economy not because citizens gave government the freedom to manipulate private enterprise to create wealth, but because government was established to assure citizens had the freedoms to create wealth benefitting fellow citizens and government. The present economic crisis is the outcome of government manipulating the mortgage industry to create wealth through home equity. Government just manipulated thrifts to extend loans to risky citizens creating conditions where home values gained 20-years in appreciation in 5-years luring in undisciplined citizens with jobs and assets to over extend themselves with bigger or second homes. Now, Obama wants to repeat this failed strategy giving billions to fiscally undisciplined cities, states, K-12 school systems, automakers, etc. that have failed at managing their financial resources and producing quality services and/or products. This is avoided with tax cuts to businesses that allow the strong to survive and the weak a final opportunity to succeed or fail. As far as failing school districts, state and local governments may I remind Mr. Obama of his commitment to change the way Washington does business and not squander billions on failure because of lobbyist and special interest power. Well, the most powerful lobbyist in Washington and in all fifty states is government employee unions and K-12 unions. Each has driven the cost of government up with protected inefficiencies and quality of services down. You want change, start in government"s backyard and lead by example rather than rhetoric and handouts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 01/09/2009

Vous avez raison, mon ami!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 01/09/2009

Someone will have to explain how 500 lawyers who have never worked a real job in the real world in their lives can make business decisions for the whole country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 01/09/2009

The high cost of fuel this past year did serious damage to our economy and society. After a brief reprieve gas prices are inching back up again. Our nation should not allow other nations to have such power over us and our economy . We have so much available to us in the way of technology and free sources of energy. WE seriously need to get on with becoming an energy independent nation. We are spending billions upon billions in bail out dollars. Why not spend some of those billions in getting alternative energy projects set up. We could create clean cheap energy, millions of badly needed new green jobs and lessen our dependence on foreign oil all in one fell swoop. I just read an eye opening book by Jeff Wilson called The Manhattan Project of 2009. It would cost the equivalent of 60 cents per gallon to drive and charge an electric car.If all gasoline cars, trucks, and SUV's instead had plug-in electric drive trains, the amount of electricity needed to replace gasoline is about equal to the estimated wind energy potential of the state of North Dakota. Why don't we use some of the billions in bail out money to bail us out of our dependence on foreign oil? This past year the high cost of fuel so seriously damaged our economy and society that the ripple effects will be felt for years to come.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 01/08/2009

A couple more speeches like the one Obama gave today, and we will all be toast. It"s the President's job to look at the 'cup half full' and to inspire his citizens to do what Americans have always done in hard times......SUCCEED !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 01/08/2009

you mean like "the fundamentals of our economy are strong?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 01/08/2009

Duh! That's what he did was to inspire. And to ask everyone to come together to be concerned about the state of the country for the children.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 01/08/2009


Words are just words. If he wanted to inspire, Obama should be writing for Hallmark, rather than applying for POTUS. I'd rather have action than words.

F for Blagojevich, F for Panetta, F for Ayers, F for Wright, F for these "made up speeches", F for Emanuel, F for Dean.

A + for the other Cabinets nominee. A + for the Transition Team, but reversing this to C.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 01/09/2009
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Mr. Obama, send those speech writer's that wrote that speech back to their home base at The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).

That was a a bunch of rolled together stump speeches smothered in doom and gloom. I felt being manipulated by that speech. If you want to deliver a speech to Congress, then address it them. If you want to deliver a speech to the population-at-large, then address it to them. But don't try to CON public opinion into pressuring Congress persons into rubber stamping your proposals. Because your proposals have suddenly come from a very narrow profile of people supplied to you by the CFR. 90% of your appointments have come from the CFR membership list which is a Rockefeller sponsored and controlled organization.

And a highly educated person does not use the word THINGS as in "things will get worse before they get better". Tell us specifically what THINGS are to get worse so we and prepare for them and plan strategy to avoid those THINGS.

And don't pretend to know MY HOPES AND DREAMS. I hope for the abolishment of Federal Reserve private bank. I hope for all people to have their personal source of free electrical energy drawn from the hydrogen economy. I hope for the abolishment of globalization which is the central plank of the CFR.

You, sir, have a lot of work to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 01/08/2009

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We already know what your dreams WERE mytake...and Obama squelched them. You're boorish and on the opposite side of reality. But, we know you....or at least your 'type'. You're the ones that got us to these 'things' and this disgraceful situation in America. MY America. So, please, fade away into history...that's a good fella.....the grown ups will take over now.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 01/08/2009

Another Ron Paul supporter?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 01/08/2009

Doesn't it amaze everyone that here we have a fireman telling everyone to gather buckets and form a brigade to attempt to put out a national fire...and the GOP is concerned about how much of the water we should reserve and to what parts of the fire it will be applied?
I think that most of the good 'ol GOP boys club and the liberal teeth-knashers still want to play politics as usual...like in the good 'ol days before the Republic died. I'm positive they have no grasp of the urgency and EXTREME danger this nation is in.(..and frankly, most of us here have no concept of what is to come)
They look at their bank accounts and feel since THEY'RE OK...everything will work out somehow for the rest of us....well....history is the only teacher that offers reality of the situation. And if you think for a second that what happened to Rome, the Greek, and the Mayans CAN'T happen to us....that that kind of thinking is way too extreme and alarmist....then you're either not very educated...or you're painfully ignorant. Because complete ruin is not only IN the cards....but we may already be holding aces and eights.
Democrats and Republicans need to get their act together and understand the scope and profound magnitude of this historical national wound we're hemorrhaging our nation's very lifeblood from....and start sewing it shut before the patient fades away.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 01/08/2009

Irresponsibility is built into the Federal Reserve Banking (and its inherent fraudulence appeals to the fraudulent and the non-productive). Obama fails to see the flaw in the system itself and wants to go after the "lawbreakers". He further thinks that creating more debt is the solution to get things rolling again. LET THE BAD INVESTMENTS GO BAD, SO THAT ASSETS CAN BE PICKED UP AT A LOWER PRICE LEVEL BY MORE TALENTED, MOTIVATED, HONEST PRODUCERS!

Get rid of debt-based money itself, for God's sakes! Creating more of it will only ensure our continued indentured servitude to this monstrosity. Of course, to do this is to court assassination, but you wanted the job, you profess to love government service. Somebody has to strike at the heart of the dragon, or the planet--at least man's role in it----is toast. This is the matrix that was intuited by the Wachowski brothers in their film. Do you want the red pill or the blue pill?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 01/08/2009
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I guess that was Mr. Paulson's plan when he let Lehman Brothers fail (sarcasm).

No, that was only the cover story so he could get the Presidents family a bank.

Let the Presidents cousin pick up the assets at a bargain basement price. Got to keep it in the family, you know. No shenanigans here, just honest producers(more sarcasm).

http://www.financialweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081008/REG/810089997

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 01/08/2009

Is that even legal?

I guess it doesn't matter at this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 01/08/2009

THe deregulated prey behaviour has led us to this. Why should we assume that more talented, honest and motivated people would pick up the crumbs. Let Obama deal with this major catastrophic round of problems, then you and Ron Paul come out again about the federal reserve. He isn't lacking courage;his campaign showed us that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 01/08/2009
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The US economy lost 533,000 jobs in November 2008 (next figures out Jan 9,2009). These were the worst employment figures since 1974.

1.9 million people lost their jobs since December 2007 through November 2008.

U.S. unemployment rate is at its highest level since 1993.

The unemployed total in the U.S. is (as of Nov 30th) 10.3 million people.

Economists believe the unemployment rate will peak at between 8.7% and 9.8% over the next two years, up from the current 6.7%.

Damn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 01/08/2009

Ten to twenty dollars a week in an individuals paycheck does have meaning for most of the people earning an income that I know. I also expect that the people I know will spend it as fast as they get it. The economy will receive a benifit if this proposed tax cut is enacted. Now this applies to most of us 10-20 dollar an hour folks. Which is also most of the folks I know. Now those making 250K a year or $4780.00 a week probably don't need that extra 10-20 bucks a week to get by. Personally I don't think anybody making 52K a year needs a tax break of 10-20 dollars a week. That's chump change for them. What is absolutely puzzling to me is: This whole group of Democratic Senators are making noise about this pittence for the middle class and comparing it to the first stimulas package as having no benifit. Get the poor, lower middle, and middle class a few more scheckles not the rich and it'll be spent on purchase of goods and necessities of life and not stored in fat bank accounts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 01/08/2009
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Exactly. The rich are more able to weather the storm, and will feel little impact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 01/08/2009
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An extra $1,000 could cover a third to half of someone's property taxes.

$20/week could cover a boost in gas prices.

Listen if you don't want the tax cut, send it back to the government, they can apply it to the debt, there's nothing that says you have to take the tax cut.

No it's not alot, but it could mean the difference in cutting back on things or not.

But I guess when you make enough that it doesn't matter, you see the rest of us as scraping for "chump change".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 01/08/2009

Do you want a lie, noncompliance or the stark naked truth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 01/08/2009
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i'll take what's behind cutain number two.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 01/08/2009
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Tr0llies cannot stand the truth. That's why they love Bush and his alternate reality. Just read their posts. LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 01/08/2009
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