UN: Probe Israeli shelling of Gaza building

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DIAA HADID | January 9, 2009 04:45 PM EST | AP

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In this Monday, Jan. 5, 2009 file photo, Palestinians carry the bodies of three toddlers Ahmed, Mohamed, and Issa Samouni, who according to Palestinian medical sources were killed in an Israeli strike, during their funeral in Gaza City. At least 169 children and teens, ages 17 and under, have been killed, and many more wounded since Dec. 27, according to Palestinian medics and human rights researchers. In the ongoing chaos, with medics still unable to retrieve all bodies and some of the dead disfigured, exact figures are not yet available. (AP Photo/Hatem Moussa, File)

JERUSALEM — With fighting all around them, Israeli troops knocked on the door of the Samouni clan in Gaza City last weekend and told them to leave, directing them to the building owned by a relative. Twenty-four hours later, three shells slammed into the structure where dozens of people were huddling, according to survivor accounts Friday.

A newly released United Nations report said 30 people died in the shelling, citing four unidentified survivors who spoke by telephone. It called the shelling "one of the gravest incidents" to happen since Israeli infantry and armored troops entered Gaza Jan. 4 to quell Hamas rockets on Israel.

Other accounts given to The Associated Press and an Israeli human rights group provided lower casualty figures, but all agreed that shells hit the large, unfinished warehouse-like building a day after Israeli troops told them to get inside it for their safety.

The shelling allegedly occurred Monday, two days after Israel launched its ground operation into Gaza. It took place in the Zeitoun neighborhood, which suffered massive destruction from airstrikes and shelling from the ground.

The report, by the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, offered no evidence that the attack was deliberate.

The Israeli military denied troops had forced civilians into a particular building, which was then shelled.

"We don't warn people to go to other buildings. This is not something we do," said spokeswoman Maj. Avital Leibovich. "We don't know this case. We don't know that we attacked it. It's not confirmed that we attacked it."

Allegra Pacheco, a senior U.N. official in Jerusalem who helped draft the report on the incident for OCHA, added: "We are not making an accusation of deliberate action" by the Israelis.

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"We are just saying the facts. In Gaza, no civilian is safe. As long as violence continues, civilians will be injured and killed," she said.

U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said the U.N. report should be the basis for an investigation of "war crimes elements." Her spokesman, Rupert Colville, said the "war crimes elements" would refer to allegations that Israel impeded medical teams trying to care for wounded civilians and failed to care for those injured in the attack.

Pillay told an emergency meeting of the U.N. Human Rights Council in Geneva that any harm to Israeli civilians by Hamas rockets was unacceptable, but it did not excuse abuses carried out by Israeli forces in response.

Pillay went further in an interview with the British Broadcasting Corp., saying the incident "appears to have all the elements of war crimes."

If an investigation found that Israel intentionally attacked a building it knew was filled with civilians, that also could constitute war crimes. U.N. human rights and humanitarian officials declined to comment on that possibility, saying a full examination of the facts was needed.

Another Israeli military spokesman, Maj. Jacob Dallal, said an investigation of the U.N. allegations showed the building was not deliberately targeted. "What we understand there was no pinpoint attack on that building in question. There is a lot of exchanges of fire. Gaza is a war zone. It's combat."

The incident highlighted the perilous situation of Gaza's 1.4 million residents, trapped in a narrow strip of land and wedged between two determined armed forces, Israel and Hamas.

Further limiting the ability to find out what happened, the casualties were sent to at least two hospitals, and surviving relatives were scattered through Gaza City and could not account for each other. Palestinian journalists have not risked visiting the site where fighting continues, and Israel has not allowed foreign reporters into Gaza.

On Monday, the AP interviewed survivor Salah Samouni at the hospital. He said the family had been ordered to go to the building Sunday by Israeli forces to avoid nearby fighting.

As he spoke, Samouni was distraught, banging his head in mourning for of his three nephews whose bodies he brought to the hospital.

The U.N. report differed in detail from an account to the AP on Friday by Ahmad Samouni and from Meysa Samouni, who told her story to the Israeli human rights organization B'Tselem. But they all concurred that Israeli troops directed dozens of members of the Samouni clan into at least one building, which was shelled the next day.

Ahmad Samouni, 23, said Israeli troops forced him and his extended family to leave their three-story home on Sunday. Once on the road, another squad of soldiers told them to go into another building belonging to Wael Samouni _ and stay there.

He said at least 60 people were in the building, while the U.N. said 110 people were inside when the shells hit.

Ahmad Samouni said a missile slammed into the door. The explosion threw him to the ground and he heard another two loud bangs, he said.

With the dust still swirling, he recalled fleeing in terror from the building, shouting to those still alive to follow him and leaving behind the bodies of his mother and at least eight other relatives.

In Meysa Samouni's account, the clan stayed there Sunday night without food or drink. In the morning, two relatives opened the door to search for other family members.

"The moment they left the house, a missile or shell hit them. Muhammed was killed on the spot, and the others were injured from shrapnel," she said, according to the transcript. "My husband went over to them to help, and then a shell or missile was fired onto the roof."

Ahmad Samouni said that when he lifted his head, he saw a gruesome sight: his mother's face was ripped off, his cousin was burned beyond recognition, and his sister-in-law's back was ripped open. Other relatives lay in heaps. Samouni said he counted nine unmoving bodies.

His face covered with blood and dust, Samouni said he stood and screamed "'Whoever is alive, come outside. If we raise our hands up, they won't shoot us, but we have to go.'"

Samouni said about 40 relatives walked out, many with hands raised. He said Israeli forces, watching them from nearby rooftops and positions on the ground, allowed them to pass, neither helping nor attacking them.

They made their way to the center of town, to the hospital or to other relatives.

The bodies of at least one Samouni man and his three children killed in the explosion were found in a Gaza City hospital. Desperate relatives pleaded with doctors to send rescue teams to find their kin in the rubble.

On Thursday, the International Committee of the Red Cross in Geneva accused Israel of "unacceptable" delays in letting rescue workers reach three Gaza City homes hit by shelling, where they eventually found 15 dead and 18 wounded, including young children too weak to stand.

The Red Cross statement referred to the same Zeitoun neighborhood, but it was unclear if it involved the incident with the Samouni clan, or if it was the same building.

The rescue team "found four small children next to their dead mothers in one of the houses. They were too weak to stand up on their own. One man was also found alive, too weak to stand up," the statement said. "In all, there were at least 12 corpses lying on mattresses" in one of the buildings, it added.

"The Israeli military must have been aware of the situation but did not assist the wounded," the Red Cross said. "Neither did they make it possible for us or the Palestine Red Crescent to assist the wounded."

The Israeli military said it is closely cooperating with international aid groups to assist civilians caught in the crossfire.

"The Israel Defense Forces are engaged in a battle with the Hamas terrorist organization that has deliberately used Palestinian civilians as human shields," a military statement said. "The IDF in no way intentionally targets civilians and has demonstrated its willingness to abort operations to save civilian lives and to risk injury in order to assist innocent civilians."

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Associated Press writers Ibrahim Barzak in Gaza City and Bradley Klapper in Geneva contributed to this story.

(This version CORRECTS New approach. RETRANSMITTING to correct spelling of `Leibovich' and `Allegra Pacheco' in grafs 6-7.)

JERUSALEM — With fighting all around them, Israeli troops knocked on the door of the Samouni clan in Gaza City last weekend and told them to leave, directing them to the building owned by a rela...
JERUSALEM — With fighting all around them, Israeli troops knocked on the door of the Samouni clan in Gaza City last weekend and told them to leave, directing them to the building owned by a rela...
 
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What happen to Darfour? Where are the UN and other muslim countries outrage and inquiries? And what about the media and main stream media reporting and analyses?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 01/22/2009

WHY THEY FIGHT ISRAEL,,,
In 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:
It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
it is time for the non muslims to do to the muslims what they have been doing to non muslims for 1400 years,,,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 01/12/2009

If Israel is "targeting" civilians, they are doing a piss poor job of it. For that matter, the majority of Israeli casualties are due to "friendly fire," i.e. accidents of war.

The Allies killed 40,000 civilian residents of Dresden in WWII in one night of bombing. Let's spot the US the Hiroshima bomb, how many civilians did we kill in Nagasaki because the Japanese were not willing to surrender?

By ANY historical standards, the Israelis are doing an incredible job of avoiding civilian casualties. Look at what the U.S. did in the 2nd battle of Fallujah, what the Russians did in Afghanistan and Chechnya, what Saddam Hussein did to the Kurds, the Hama massacre in Syria, etc etc etc

Oh wait, I forgot, there is an entirely different standard for Israel. That's why the UN Human Rights council voted on 30 June 2006 to make a review of possible human rights abuses by Israel a permanent feature of every council session, while they can't even manage a censure of Sudan for its genocide in Darfur.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 01/11/2009

as they say in this forum "well said"
they throw the same BS at the USA, had the USA been targetting civilians in iraq, they all would have been dead inside the first month
same with Israel,,,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 01/11/2009
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well this will be interesting. The UN will be called anti Semitic and ignored , like the dozens of other sanctions against Israel from the UN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 01/11/2009

This week, a Katyusha rocket fired by Hamas hit an Israeli retirement home in Nahariya. Is the UN investigating that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 01/11/2009

When I think of what people will do to stay alive in this world, the struggles they endure just to live a while longer, it is so unbelievable that when a war is declared that the concern for anyones life is diminished and in many cases simply ignored.. Children and innocent people are termed "collateral damage". Those people have others who love them. They deserve what anyone else deserves: to live, and grow old surrounded by their families. When will we as a people become smart enough and compassionate enough to stop all the needless bloodshed around our world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 01/10/2009

Civilians will get killed when aggressors many miles away lob weapons capable of massive carnage into a indiscriminate area where one "believes" an intended target or two resides.

If you're going to fight, fight your foe face-to-face or hand-to-hand.

The current approach is akin to walking in on a bank robbery and shooting every person in the bank and all the buildings surrounding it, then declaring that "intelligence showed that the robber was likely, but not certainly, still in the area. We regret the loss of innocent lives."

How do the people who make these pre-meditated murder decisions sleep at night?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 01/10/2009

Now that they've been deemed a legitimate target by the IDF, the old toothless tiger of 1st & 42nd growls
back by mentioning 'Israel' and 'war crimes' in the same sentence.
But then...

"Allegra Pacheco, a senior U.N. official in Jerusalem who helped draft the report on the incident for OCHA, added: "We are not making an accusation of deliberate action" by the Israelis."

Why waste prime NYC real estate on a non-entity that sheepishly walks away rubbing its cheeks after a psychotic bully spits in its face? Its a useless cold war relic that should dissolve and donate any usable resources to the Red Cross.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 01/10/2009
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What's the point? UN investigations, internationsl condenmnations, alleged pressure.

It doesn't matter people. Israel does what it wants and when it wants to without a care in the world

Israel's above the law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 01/10/2009
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Its not the people of Israel, but the Government. Which like ours, is the same kind of lunatics year after year. Yes, we elect them, just like the people of Israel do. But we, like them, dont get much of a choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 01/11/2009

They tried to isolate and control 1.5 million people under the usual inhumane conditions. They've been trying to isolate and control the Palestinians for 60 years and it doesn't work because the level of fear and hatred won't let up FOR WHATEVER REASON.. Everything since the occupation of Palestine has become way out of proportion in posing a threat to the rest of the world. My grandparents came through Ellis Island, not Tel Aviv. Israel is not part of Conneticut no matter what Joe Liebermann thinks. If Israel can't live in some semblance of peace with its neighbors then perhaps it should have stayed home with the rest of us Episcopalians and Buddhists. But it's The Promised Land, God's Chosen People. That we've allowed our nation to become so deeply involved in the endgames of all this alien fundamentalism shows that Israel serves our acquisitive interests and, therefore, like Israel, we are going to continue to suffer because the American people have no control on this issue throught their government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 01/10/2009
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I cannot help but wonder, what type of person it takes to destroy innocent life? What type of person willfully blasts their fellow man into oblivion and does not care? What is wrong with this region. Why is everyone filled with so much hate? Can they even give you an answer? Our time, humanity's time on this planet is limited. Our days are numbered, and that number is getting smaller very rapidly. In the coming decades, every man, woman and child on this planet will be fighting for their very existence. To wallow in self inflicted misery of war, at a time when we as a species should be coming together for our very survival, is illogical, criminal, and hateful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 01/10/2009
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The weapons being used on a walled city containing 1.5 million trapped civilians were given to Israel FOR DEFENSE or that was the agreement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 01/10/2009

"Israel scrapped arrangements Monday to allow the first foreign reporters into the Gaza Strip since the military launched its offensive against Palestinian militants, adding to mounting media frustration at being locked out of the war zone.

The ban on foreign media, which has been appealed to the Israeli Supreme Court, drew criticism from journalists that Israel is trying to manage the story.

The barring of outside news organizations from Gaza hampers the flow of unbiased information of vital interest to the entire world. Authorities on all sides should work to allow access by journalists in keeping with the aims of press freedom,"

"Israel has never restricted media access like this before, and it should be ashamed," said Ethan Bronner, The New York Times bureau chief in Jerusalem. "It's betraying the principles by which it claims to live."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=6578931

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 01/10/2009

Have any of you actually been in a war? There is no way a war can be fought and civilians not get hurt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 01/10/2009
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Good reason not have a war, eh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 01/10/2009

Eh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 01/10/2009
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You're not equating what is happening in the Gaza strip as a War, are you?
The US tried that one in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 01/10/2009

Well that reasoning would work both ways, no?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 01/10/2009

and how does that relate to what we're seeing in this specific case in Gaza where the vast majority of dead and injured are civilians specifically children and women ?

remember the UN school? The 30+ who were asked to go to a house and hours later the house was targeted from air? The four children next to their mothers dead body for FOUR days with no food ? The two UNARWA dead employee? What the red cross is saying ? The UN human rights commission? The military ban on media covering ? do i need mention what he secular and liberal Jews are saying concerning what they call "crimes" committed in Gaza... J- street for example ? ever heard of it ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 01/10/2009
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Thats a blanket statement that doesn't hold true, the flower wars in pre columbian central america were fought to gain warriors for sacrifice and civilians didn't get hurt, in the American Civil War civilians didn't get shelled or killed on a large scale. The set piece battles of Europe in the 19 century didn't kill civilians and even WW1 nobody was shelling civilians, not until WW2 did civilians get bombed or hurt to the degree that is happening now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 01/10/2009
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This war on the people of Gaza isn"t really about rockets. Nor is it about "restoring Israel"s deterrence," as the Israeli press might have you believe. Far more revealing are the words of Moshe Yaalon, then the Israeli Defense Forces chief of staff, in 2002: "The Palestinians must be made to understand in the deepest recesses of their consciousness that they are a defeated people."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 01/10/2009
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