Clinton's Remarks Anger Afghan Foreign Minister

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JASON STRAZIUSO | January 17, 2009 10:26 AM EST | AP

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Secretary of State-designate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., listens to a question as she testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Jan. 13, 2009, during her confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

KABUL, Afghanistan — U.S. Secretary of State-designate Hillary Clinton's use of the term "narco state" to describe Afghanistan in a recent Senate testimony has caught the attention of her Afghan counterpart.

Foreign Ministry Rangin Dadfar Spanta said Saturday that it is "absolutely wrong" to classify Afghanistan as such, though the minister readily admitted that Afghanistan is a major producer of drugs.

Afghanistan produces more than 90 percent of the world's opium, the main ingredient in heroin.

"Madame Clinton is a good friend of Afghanistan, a close friend of ours," Spanta told The Associated Press in an interview arranged to rebut Clinton's classification of Afghanistan.

"But if somebody believes that our government, the government of President (Hamid) Karzai is involved as a government entity in the production of drugs, this is absolutely wrong."

Spanta was reacting to a report in the Financial Times on Friday that quoted Clinton as calling Afghanistan a "narco state" whose government was "plagued by limited capacity and widespread corruption." The comments appeared in Clinton's written Senate testimony for her nomination as Secretary of State.

But Spanta also made a startling admission: that the Afghan government controls perhaps only 90 percent of Helmand, the largest drug-producing province and one of the country's most violent.

"The main production center of drugs is Helmand, and we are not in charge. Helmand (is) not under control of my government," Spanta said. "If the international community is serious about fighting drug production and drug trafficking, they have to bring Helmand under our control."

Spanta said the government controls only the capital of Helmand, Lashkar Gah, along with "some islands" of territory around the rest of the province.

The U.S. plans to send up to 30,000 new forces into Afghanistan this year, and several thousands of those troops are likely to go to Helmand, which produces more than 50 percent of Afghanistan's opium poppies.

Spanta called Helmand "the main threat" and said al-Qaida and Taliban militants as well as criminal drug organizations operate there.

He said corruption was a problem the Afghan government still needed to address but that it was actively working on the drug problem. He said the government has arrested more than 700 people involved in the drug trade in recent years.

Despite the irritation over the narco state label, Spanta called the United States a key alley and said he was sure President-elect Barack Obama would continue President George W. Bush's policy of strong support for Afghanistan.

Spanta called Obama a "strong president with vision for his country and the world."

KABUL, Afghanistan — U.S. Secretary of State-designate Hillary Clinton's use of the term "narco state" to describe Afghanistan in a recent Senate testimony has caught the attention of her Afghan...
KABUL, Afghanistan — U.S. Secretary of State-designate Hillary Clinton's use of the term "narco state" to describe Afghanistan in a recent Senate testimony has caught the attention of her Afghan...
 
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- jstowe100 I'm a Fan of jstowe100 2 fans permalink

"Narc state" sounds about right. And if not, Spanta rebutted and stated his case. Sounds like everyone is putting their cards on the table, which is a good thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 01/19/2009
- LALC I'm a Fan of LALC 4 fans permalink

Since the comment was made during Senate testimony, EXACTLY what question was she responding to? What was asked & who asked? I have not found an article with transcipts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 01/19/2009
- AngieMom57 I'm a Fan of AngieMom57 68 fans permalink
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"plagued by limited capacity and widespread corruption."

Ok, so show me a government that is not "plagued by limited capacity and widespread corruption."? Geeze like the pot calling the kettle black.

Power and privilege breed corruption, none are immune. correct me if I'm wrong here...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 01/19/2009
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Well, I'm not going to "correct you," LOL, but I will disagree, somewhat. Poverty breeds corruption, as well, for if the people see only illegal activity as a means of survival, then they are more likely to partake in that activity. And if that activity produces great sums of money, somewhere down the line, then control over the activity becomes paramount and corruption ensues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 01/19/2009
- AlphaDoc I'm a Fan of AlphaDoc 13 fans permalink

>But Spanta also made a startling admission: that the Afghan government controls perhaps only 90 percent of Helmand, the largest drug-producing province and one of the country's most violent.<

>Spanta said the government controls only the capital of Helmand, Lashkar Gah, along with "some islands" of territory around the rest of the province.<

Something doesn't make sense. The capital and "some islands" of territory make up 90% of Helmand? And 10 of one province in a country the size of Afghanistan is producing the majority of the world's opium?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 AM on 01/19/2009
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 83 fans permalink
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Too bad if the drug dealer is angered, it is the truth. Take away their drug dynasty and they have nothing. There is no room for growing food in Afghanistan. Everywhere one does not find a mountain is covered in poppies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 AM on 01/19/2009
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

And the US is occupies the country and consumes most of the drugs produced from the poppies. Sounds like a wink wink nod nod to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 AM on 01/19/2009

It is so easy to say that Karzai government is corrupt or ineffective. But so much more dificult to walk in their shoes. Hillary Clinton maybe right that narcotics are the biggest cash crop of Afghanistan. But Hamid Karzai can only do so much. Real reform in society requires change in thinking across a broad coalition of citizens. This takes time, patience and some good luck. Afghanistan has not been given any of these. Everybody wants a 14 th century society to jump into the 21st century overnight. Name calling will only defeat the very people trying to bring change in that country. Hillary as our secretary of state should encourage the Afghan government publicly and take them to task privately. She could have said that she understands the difficulties that the Afghan government faces but the extent of the narcotic trade in that country is unacceptable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 01/18/2009
- Bubba Gump I'm a Fan of Bubba Gump 192 fans permalink
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I'm not in disagreement with your statement. I think Hillary's motives were two-fold: talk tough to get herself through a grilling in a Senate confirmation hearing, and give an agenda preview -- cutting off the money supply to our enemies means cutting off illegal narcotics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 AM on 01/19/2009
- SOLERSO68 I'm a Fan of SOLERSO68 36 fans permalink
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reduce demand. as long as there is a market for a product that product will be produced, and making it (marginaly) harder to get only drives up its value. where are the capitalists on this??????? i dont believe pres. Obama is about to commit to a bottomless pit of a war in Afghanistan, to attempt the un-achieveable goal of eliminating opium production.demand reduction will only be acheived when th U.S takes a realistic, not knee jerk ( or shameless profiteering) approach to the problem. treatment, education and prevention are the only effective methods for reducing demand. anyone who actually understands the problem know this. pres. Obama the ghost of Lyndon Johnson is trying to reach you, hes saying, "dont do it"..........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 01/18/2009
- LALC I'm a Fan of LALC 4 fans permalink

You know, it's a funny thing. A politician speaks bluntly, the truth & everyone gets insulted, P.O.'d
They beat aroung the bush (no pun intended), everyone gets P.O.'d.
I'll take blunt & truth any day!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 01/18/2009
- LALC I'm a Fan of LALC 4 fans permalink

even if it hurts!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 01/18/2009
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

The SoS is suppose to be the chief diplomat, NOT A POLITICIAN, and patticularly a politiican who is known to be lose with the truth, divisiive and intensly self interested. Hilary is not a good choice for SoS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 AM on 01/19/2009

OK so what did Clinton say that was wrong?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 01/18/2009
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

She used blunt language, insuting to Afghans, to describe a real chlalenge for which the US shares a lot of blame and responsibility. She sounds like Bush the cowboy. We don't want to deal with the world that way anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 AM on 01/19/2009
- LALC I'm a Fan of LALC 4 fans permalink

HRC said narco-state NOT government. There's a difference.
Her comments about the gov; limited capacity TRUE - corruption TRUE. Also true, they are a narco-state!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 01/18/2009
- munki I'm a Fan of munki 33 fans permalink
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Hillary has to be tough... women are not received well in some countries...
despite the fact, India, Pakistan and many other countries - had Female Prime Minister...
Is there a missing link?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 01/18/2009
- LALC I'm a Fan of LALC 4 fans permalink

Fortunately for her (& us) she is tough!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 01/18/2009
- Oldbuck I'm a Fan of Oldbuck 8 fans permalink
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Narc state is a true statement I applaud Clinton for doing what the Bush Administration has never done telling the truth for a change. It about time we call them the way they are. Just because you want a country to be what it is not does not give us the right to lie about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 01/18/2009
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

Truth? Actually, she sounds just like Bush. The truth is, the US has helped to create the drug economy in Afghanistan. Where in her remarks is she honest in acknowledging that the US has permitted a HUGE expansion of poppy growing and is the major consummer of the illegal drugs produced?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 AM on 01/19/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 244 fans permalink

Afganistan is the success story BUSH was just touting on his Farewell Tour...

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 01/18/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 244 fans permalink

When a small country produces 95% of the world heroin supply and thats 90% of your GDP... you are a Narco State...

You certianly are not a Tourist economy.

Come to beautiful Afganistan, see war lords dragiing the colorful local people through the streets headless or particpate in the local sport of acid tossing into the faces of young girls on the way to school.

These and many more local customs will entertain you among the gentle swirling sand fleas.


Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 01/18/2009
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

and the US looks the other way when it is exported comes to the US and is sold and consumed in a illegal billionaire dollar industry. Hillary needs to be honest and fair, to be a successful diplomat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 AM on 01/19/2009
- blood1 I'm a Fan of blood1 12 fans permalink

If HRC's truthtelling is the beginning of what to expect from the Obama Administration, then I am all for it.
If this is the first step in "Transparency", then I am all for it.
If this Admin. is going to be honest about foreign government behavior, then it needs to apply those sames rules internally.

We have all experienced what has happened when the behavior and decisions are curtained behind lies (Iraq and WMDs)
I know this won't be easy, but now would be a great time for the USA to be honest...as the citizens are ready to accept this new reality. If the country made some bad choices and decisions, tell us now and then start to rebuild from that low point rather that falsely defining the LOW point.

That would be one of the biggest "HEADS UP" to governments around the world...to get your government in order because we can no longer financially support all the false reality governments.

Yes, we know that there will still be espionage, etc...but the slate on which foreign policy is written is so mired in historic failings...is not now the time to REALLY wipe the slate clean (or at least cleaner) than to just continue writing over the past?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 01/18/2009

Want to put the lid on Drugs? (and War)
Take the Profit out of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 01/18/2009
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