GOP Governors Press Congress To Pass Stimulus Bill

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AP   |  BETH FOUHY   |   January 31, 2009 at 09:30 PM

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NEW YORK — Most Republican governors have broken with their GOP colleagues in Congress and are pushing for passage of President Barack Obama's economic aid plan that would send billions to states for education, public works and health care.

Their state treasuries drained by the financial crisis, governors would welcome the money from Capitol Hill, where GOP lawmakers are more skeptical of Obama's spending priorities.

The 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, planned to meet in Washington this weekend with Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and other senators to press for her state's share of the package.

Florida Gov. Charlie Crist worked the phones last week with members of his state's congressional delegation, including House Republicans. Vermont Gov. Jim Douglas, the Republican vice chairman of the National Governors Association, planned to be in Washington on Monday to urge the Senate to approve the plan.

"As the executive of a state experiencing budget challenges, Gov. Douglas has a different perspective on the situation than congressional Republicans," said Douglas' deputy chief of staff, Dennise Casey.

Not a single Republican voted with the majority last week when the House approved Obama's $819 billion combination of tax cuts and new spending. The president's goal is to create or preserve 3 million to 4 million jobs.

Republicans led by House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio complained that the plan is laden with pet projects and will not yield the jobs or stimulate the economy in the way Obama has promised.

The measure faces GOP opposition in the Senate, where it will be up for a vote in the week ahead.

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But states are coping with severe budget shortfalls and mounting costs for Medicaid, the health insurance program for the poor. So governors, including most Republicans, are counting on the spending to help keep their states afloat.

This past week the bipartisan National Governors Association called on Congress to quickly pass the plan.

"States are facing fiscal conditions not seen since the Great Depression _ anticipated budget shortfalls are expected in excess of $200 billion," the NGA statement said. "Governors ... support several key elements of the bill critical to states-increased federal support for Medicaid and K-12 and higher education; investment in the nation's infrastructure; and tax provisions to spur investment."

Clyde Frazier, a professor of political science at Meredith College in North Carolina, said it wasn't politically inconsistent for Republican governors and members of Congress to part ways on the stimulus plan.

"For governors, it's free money _ they get the benefits and they don't have to pay the costs of raising the revenues," Frazier said. "Senators and representatives get only some credit for the expenditures, and they have to pay the bill."

That's not to say Republican governors are entirely enthusiastic about the plan. Some worry about the debt incurred through so much federal borrowing.

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a former member of the House, said he would accept the stimulus money but would have voted against the bill if he were still in Congress. Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, a former chairman of the Republican National Committee, said he wasn't sure whether he would accept the approximately $3 billion his state would be in line for.

"Yes, we need some help and we appreciate the help," Barbour said in an interview. "But I don't know about the details and the strings attached to tell you if I'll take all of it or not."

The most outspoken critic has been South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, who has warned for months of a steep spike in inflation and a severely weakened dollar if Obama's plan passed. His state is on track to receive $2.1 billion of the stimulus money; Sanford has not yet said whether he would accept it.

"It's incumbent on me as one of the nation's governors to speak out against what I believe is ultimately incredibly harmful to the economy, to taxpayers and to the worth of the U.S. dollar," Sanford said in an interview. "This plan is a huge mistake and is going to prolong and deepen this recession."

Sanford outlined his concerns in December when the then-president-elect met with governors in Philadelphia to discuss the stimulus proposal. Sanford said he had heard nothing from the White House since then.

Associates say Sanford, who recently was elected chairman of the Republican Governors Association, has been disappointed in how few of his GOP colleagues have joined him in speaking out against the size and scope of Obama's plan.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who is widely viewed as a potential presidential contender in 2012, said governors have little choice but to accept the relief being offered. "States have to balance their budgets," he said. "So if we're going to go down this path, we are entitled to ask for our share of the money."

But Pawlenty expressed reservations about the cost of the plan and its impact on the federal deficit, which has already grown to over $1 trillion.

"I'm quite concerned about the federal government spending money it doesn't have," Pawlenty said. "We're on an unsustainable path of deficit spending and borrowing."

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NEW YORK — Most Republican governors have broken with their GOP colleagues in Congress and are pushing for passage of President Barack Obama's economic aid plan that would send billions to state...
NEW YORK — Most Republican governors have broken with their GOP colleagues in Congress and are pushing for passage of President Barack Obama's economic aid plan that would send billions to state...
 
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All of this is politics Jindal, I will take the money because we need it but would not vote for it? Governor Christ is an honest man it does appear, what was he doing inolved with a McCain campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 02/06/2009
- maxfax I'm a Fan of maxfax 18 fans permalink

The governors are Obama's new best friends.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 02/02/2009
- LauraD I'm a Fan of LauraD 51 fans permalink

Why are they all concerned about spending NOW?

All I have heard about this is that the Republicans don't want to spend money we don't have.....I haven't yet figured out what planet they've been on for the past 8 years, where we have been spending money hand over fist that we didn't have.

Appalling levels of hypocrisy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 02/02/2009
- claudiam I'm a Fan of claudiam 24 fans permalink
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The Repubs don't get it. We NEED this stimulus package. Because we lost Janet to the WH, we now have a Repub Gov and legislature and they are making HUGE cuts! Here at the U of A we are facing a crisis and we need the Fed to come through. This is for youth and their education. claudiatucsonaz

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 02/02/2009
- Angelaaaa I'm a Fan of Angelaaaa 10 fans permalink

Appalling - governments spending money they don't have on health, education and welfare. I am going on record here as saying WE SHOULD ONLY BE SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE ON WARS SO HALLIBURTON CAN INCREASE ITS PROFITS. There I've said it and I'm feeling positively lightheaded with relief (or is that brainless?).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 02/01/2009
- RenoSage I'm a Fan of RenoSage 21 fans permalink

As I understand it, the stimulus package was designed to help both immediate needs, and long term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 02/01/2009
- Tom Payned I'm a Fan of Tom Payned 73 fans permalink
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Palin has a lot of nerve. Before she was against the federal government getting involved in a state's financing (like that bridge to nowhere she claimed she wasn't for)

Now, here she is, hat in hand asking that "socialist" for tax payer funds to bail her state out.

Guess she doesn't understand the meaning of the word socialist.

She should probably stand on her porch and yell over to Putin and ask him to explain it to her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 02/01/2009
- RenoSage I'm a Fan of RenoSage 21 fans permalink

Deficit spending is rampant from individuals with their credit cards to the Feds with their printing presses
and Treasury bonds to sell. To use an old farm phrase: Sooner or later the chickens come home to
roost. And when the funds are allocated, everybody wants a share.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 02/01/2009
- acacia72 I'm a Fan of acacia72 5 fans permalink

Nice tan, Charlie! Which tanning club do you belong to? I bet you have bright, pearly whites to contrast with that golden tan too! Appearence over substance after all, is the republican ideology.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 02/01/2009
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testing!te­sting!123.­..is this thing on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 02/01/2009
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I think alot of the money in the BO stimulus is meant to give the money that the feds usually give to the states that was cut back under Bush.
For example where I live we had a state medicaid system that was started under Clinton.40­% of the total cost of the program had to be funded by the state,the fed kicked-in the other 60%.Well that program was killed-off in 2005 because the federal government didn't give that 60%,so 200,000 people were perged from the system(including myself).
As you [should]know when Repugs refer to "big government"( government that helps the people, the part that they show so much contempt for)ie education,­medicaide,­medicare,f­ood stamps,ect­.Any social program.Be­cause nothing is worse than spending "the peoples money" on THE ACTUAL PEOPLE!
That's the reason so many state budgets are in trouble.Be­cause we couldn't really afford Mr Bushes tax-breaks to start with.So all that neglect is finally showing itself.I think alot of this is to repair all that damage and neglect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 02/01/2009
- killpack I'm a Fan of killpack 4 fans permalink

Here's an idea. How about instead of me sending money to Washington so they can turn and spend it on me, I just spend the money on me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 02/01/2009
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my god your right! how could I have been so wrong

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 02/01/2009
- iblogleft I'm a Fan of iblogleft 86 fans permalink
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Because the statistics show, you will save at least 20% of it, and we need it spent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 02/01/2009
- killpack I'm a Fan of killpack 4 fans permalink

Republican governors don't want the stimulus package to pass in Congress because they think it's a good idea. They want it to pass because if they voice opposition, they won't be getting that check when everyone else is. It's called game theory folks. They're playing the game just like everyone else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 02/01/2009
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What if you were say a lieutenant Governor of a state, say like Jan Brewer and you happen to be a Republican, but the former Democratic Governor ran the state debt up to 1.6B dollars then got promoted to Secretary of Homeland Security?

What would you do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 02/01/2009
- killpack I'm a Fan of killpack 4 fans permalink

Oh, believe me, I'm going to be first in line for any handout from the Feds, even though I am staunchly opposed to them. It's called game theory. Haven't you ever seen Beautiful Mind?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 02/01/2009
- MsDoc I'm a Fan of MsDoc 49 fans permalink

Testing...­. everything I post gets a bath.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 02/01/2009
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It must be your com. I am reading your posts just fine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 02/01/2009
- MsDoc I'm a Fan of MsDoc 49 fans permalink

Rats.... I probably reposted three time.... sorry for the annoyance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 02/01/2009
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Here are some numbers (they are two years old, but you get the drift)

"HARRISBURG - Of Pennsylvania's 10 largest employers, Wal-Mart has the highest percentage of employees enrolled in the state medical assistance program for the poor and disabled.
About one in six of Wal-Mart's 48,000 employees are enrolled in the Medicaid insurance program, at a total cost to the state of more than $15 million a year, according to state data."
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Bingo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 02/01/2009
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So, using your argument, let's close all Wal-Mart Stores thus ending the issues with poverty it creates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 02/01/2009
- MamaBird62 I'm a Fan of MamaBird62 85 fans permalink

No. Wal mart should pay it's workers a living wage with decent benefits. And stop breaking laws and threatening people in an effort to keep unions out. Then its workers wouldn't be on the public dole.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 02/01/2009
- MsDoc I'm a Fan of MsDoc 49 fans permalink

To CC2, et al

I wrote this in response to the education issue... and was cleansed thoroughly, I think.

Did you know that of the inm ates in Southern j ails 82% of them are high school dropouts? In the North, that percentage drops (ha) to 60%.

Our education system is a failure to most of our p0pulation.

We need to seriopusly consider reinstituting programs and curriculae that actually provide the possiblity of employment. Many of our states are just plain silly in their academic demands.

Case in point... I had a brilliant student in my last year of teaching who spoke fluent Vietnamese, French and English. The state demanded he take yet another language to graduate. He dug his feet in and refused. Hair flew... I finally convinved him to take Latin and he's now in Med School.

But how about the mathophobic like me? I struggled through Algebra and Geomentry, but had I been forced to take Calc and Trig, I would still be on the farm pulling beets. Since I didn't have to, I have an Ed.D.

We MUST offer curricula which leads to employment. For far too many kids, HSs offer nothing past 10th grade that they find pertinent to who and what they are and they drop out.

I have submitted a lengthly curriculum to the Dept of Ed...at their request, but I hold out no real hope since we would have to admit that not all students will go to college.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 02/01/2009
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I did respond to you. Let me see if I can repost:

DOC, I agree with your argument. I am in those trenches every day. Yet, we are in the throes of revamping our whole system, so that students will be completely done with academics by their sophomore year ( end of). Then we are moving on to a college and career philosophy which will feature two tracks, one for each. And what is to say of music, art and physical education? Which WE consider a necessity.

posted Feb 01, 2009 at 12:05:29

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 02/01/2009
- MsDoc I'm a Fan of MsDoc 49 fans permalink

I included those in the electives. In addition, at grade 11, the major subject on each track are offered to the other track as electives.

I had to fight REALLY hard to take Mechanical Drawing in HS... I was, gasp, a GIRL...but I've used those skills my whole life. In my current role I was able to map out the floor plan for "my" ew school, now in it's third year, and really utilize the sapce.

Nothing we learn is wasted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 02/01/2009
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In addition, we are in the process of purchasing another 28 acres for a new high school. This high school will include a vocational training center as well as a tech and science center.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 02/01/2009
- MsDoc I'm a Fan of MsDoc 49 fans permalink

Need a pretty good curriculum specialist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 02/01/2009
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The GOP governors are helping to make the case that the GOP will be wandering in the wilderness for some time:

1. The most quoted GOP leaders have said repeatedly that the state and local Republicans will need to take the lead and the direction is opposite of the GOP members of the House.
2. Since the members of the House have been elected by their districts - and the governors are accountable to the same districts, one conclusion is that they are out of touch with what is going on in their state.
3. It is significant that the Governors are supporting Obama's stimulus package - not justifying why their party rejected it.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 02/01/2009
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