Obama Stimulus Speech Rallies Democrats (VIDEO)

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Huffington Post/AP   |  Marcus Baram   |   February 5, 2009 08:48 PM

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President Obama, in some of the strongest language he's used since the presidential campaign, forcefully pushed his stimulus plan tonight in a speech before House Democrats at their three-day annual retreat at the Kingsmill Resort & Spa in Williamsburg, Va.

And he urged Democrats to reject delaying tactics, accusing the Republicans of helping get the country into the current financial crisis.

"I found this deficit when I showed up," he said in a swipe at the Bush administration. "I found this a national debt double wrapped in a big bow waiting for me as I stepped into the Oval Office."

And he strongly attacked partisan warfare that has threatened to bog down his stimulus plans this week, saying to loud applause, that Americans had not voted for "false theories of the past and they didn't vote for phony arguments and petty politics."

Departing from the Teleprompter for much of the speech, Obama used a plethora of metaphors to make his points. To express the urgency of the situation, Obama said, "I don't care if you're driving an SUV or a hybrid. If you're heading for a cliff, you've got to change direction."

Afterwards, he took questions from some of the assembled 200 Democrats.

Politico reports:

Responding to a question from Iowa Rep. Dave Loebsack, Obama said that Gen. David Petraeus and other Pentagon officials are reviewing the military situation in Afghanistan - and that he would emphasize diplomacy with Pakistan and articulate a clear strategy for the U.S. military there.
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Among the many hurdles he faces, Obama must referee an emerging divide between the fiscal conservatives in his party and those Democrats who want him to increase federal funding for key domestic priorities like education and health care. Responding to a question from Pennsylvania Rep. Chaka Fattah about that balance, Obama said, "We've inherited a mess. It's our job to clean it up."


WATCH VIDEO OF MOST OF THE SPEECH:

Below is the full text of Obama's prepared remarks:

It's great to be here with so many friends. I'm glad to see the House Democratic Caucus is getting by just fine without my Chief of Staff. I want to thank John Larson for inviting me here tonight. This is John's first conference as Chairman of the Democratic Caucus, so we're both new at this.

I want to acknowledge the great Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, who has proven to be an extraordinary leader for the American people. I want to thank Nancy, Steny Hoyer, Jim Clyburn and the entire caucus for your hard work in passing an economic recovery plan that is so desperately needed for our country.

You acted with a discipline that matches the urgency and gravity of the crisis we face. Because you know what's at stake. Every weekend you go home to your districts and you see factories that are closing and small businesses shutting their doors. You hear from families losing their homes; students that can't pay tuition; seniors who worry about whether they can retire with dignity, or see their kids and grandkids lead the better life that must be America's promise.

So you went to work, and you did your job. For that, you have my appreciation and admiration. As we meet here tonight, we know there is more work to be done. The Senate is still acting. And after it has its final vote, we will still need to resolve differences between the House and Senate bills. I urge you to complete that work without delay.

Look, I value the constructive criticism and healthy debate that is a foundation of American democracy. I don't think any of us have cornered the market on wisdom, or that good ideas are the province of any party. The American people know that our challenges are great. They're not expecting Democratic solutions or Republican solutions - they want American solutions. And I have said that to those who have criticized the plan.

But what I have also said is - don't come to table with the same tired arguments and worn ideas that helped create this crisis.

We're not going to get relief by turning back to the very same policies that in eight short years doubled the national debt and threw our economy into a tailspin. We can't embrace the losing formula that offers more tax cuts as the only answer to every problem we face, while ignoring critical challenges like our addiction to foreign oil, the soaring cost of health care, failing schools and crumbling bridges, roads and levees. I don't care whether you're driving a hybrid or an SUV - if you're headed for a cliff, you have to change direction.

The American people are watching. They did not send us here to get bogged down with the same old delay and distractions. They did not vote for the false theories of the past. They did not vote for the status quo - they sent us here to bring change, and we owe it to them to act. This is the moment for leadership that matches the great test of our time.

If we do not move swiftly to sign the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act into law, an economy that is in crisis will be faced with catastrophe. Millions more Americans will lose their jobs. Home will be lost. Families will go without health care. Our crippling dependence on foreign oil will continue. That is the price of inaction.

This isn't some abstract debate. Last week, we learned that many of America's largest corporations are planning to layoff tens off tens of thousands of workers. Today, we learned that last week, the number of new unemployment claims jumped to 626,000. And tomorrow, we're expecting another dismal jobs report on top of the 2.6 million jobs we lost last year.

For you, those aren't statistics. They are constituents you know and families that you care about. Now, I believe that legislation of such magnitude deserves the scrutiny that it's received, and you will get another chance to vote for this bill in the days to come. But I urge all of us to not make the perfect the enemy of the absolutely necessary. The scale and scope of this plan is right.

So just as past generations of Americans have done in trying times, we can and must turn this moment of challenge into one of opportunity. The plan that you've passed has at its core a simple idea: let's put Americans to work doing the work that America needs done.

This plan will save or create over three million jobs - almost all of them in the private sector.

This plan will put people to work rebuilding our crumbling roads and bridges; our dangerously deficient dams and levees.

This plan will put people to work modernizing our health care system, not only saving us billions of dollars, but countless lives.

This plan will put people to work renovating more than 10,000 schools, giving millions of children the chance to learn in 21st century classrooms, libraries, and labs - and to all the scientists in the room today, you know what that means for America's future.

This plan will provide sensible tax relief for the struggling middle-class, unemployment insurance and continued health care coverage for those who've lost their jobs, and it will help prevent our states and local communities from laying off firefighters, teachers, and police.

Finally, this plan will begin to end the tyranny of oil in our time. It doubles our capacity to generate alternative sources of energy like wind, solar, and biofuels in three years. It saves taxpayers billions of dollars by making federal buildings more energy efficient, and it saves the average working family hundreds on their energy bills. After decades of empty rhetoric, that is the down payment that we need on energy independence.

You know, there's a lot about running for President that is difficult - I don't miss sleeping in a different bed every night, or not seeing my kids as much as I'd like. But the best thing about being a candidate is that you get to see the country, and you get to know the character of the American people.

Over the last two years, I visited almost all fifty states. I've been in so many of your districts. I've passed through towns and cities, farms and factories. I know that people are hurting. I've heard their stories, and I've sensed their deep frustration. But I also know that these struggles have not diminished the strength and decency of the American people.

We hold within our hands the capacity to do great things on their behalf. It starts with this economic recovery plan. And soon, we will take on big issues like addressing the foreclosure issue, passing a budget, tackling our fiscal problems, fixing financial regulation and securing our country. We must not approach these challenges as Democrats - we must overcome them as Americans. That is why we must work in a serious, substantive, and civil way to build bipartisan support for action.

I promise you that my door is open, and my Administration will consult closely with you - the peoples' representatives - as we take on pressing priorities like energy and health care; education and infrastructure.

Already, you have made a difference. I'm pleased that in my very first days in office, I signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, to make sure that all of our daughters have the same opportunity as our sons. I signed the Children's Health Insurance Program to provide coverage to 11 million children, and to make a down payment on comprehensive health care reform. I know it wasn't easy - it was a long time coming, and I appreciate your hard work over several years on behalf of America's children.

Tonight, I am confident that if we continue to work together, we can fulfill the promise of health care that is affordable for all Americans. We can create that new energy economy. We can provide a world-class education for our kids. We can unleash the talent, and innovation of the American people to compete in the 21st century. We can do all of that.

Now, we have a choice to make. Future generations will look back, and they will ask what we did when we confronted this crisis. What will they say?

Will they say that - once again - we failed to make the tough choices that lead to progress? Or will they say that this was the time that we came together, that we found our stake in one another as Americans, and that we voted for bold and aggressive action?

Together, we hold in our hands enormous responsibility. We also have an enormous opportunity.
We can write that next great chapter in American history. If we stay focused on the big picture; if we never forget the people who we are fighting for; if we represent the strength and dignity of the American people, then I know we can answer's history's call and renew America's promise.

Thank you.

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- KillBillV2 I'm a Fan of KillBillV2 90 fans permalink
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I looooove How Obama went off script..He needs to more often, because it made a great Speech!


Very s exy too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 02/07/2009
- repearwo I'm a Fan of repearwo 35 fans permalink
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Me, too , on the of script comment. Someone needed to give the lie to the "Spending" mantra that the Republicans are disabling the country with. Spending and Stimulus are the same thing. Tax cuts let people keep money but if they don't have a job, tax cuts don't work very well.

The Fiscal Conservatives (if there really are such creatures) would have us picnic on the beach in a Hurricane as if it were a sunny day. Fiscal Conservatism is fine in a normal healthy economy but we are not in a normal healthy economy. The Republicans are like the fellow who designed the Titanic with too few life boats, it was unsinkable, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 02/09/2009
- MsAttitude I'm a Fan of MsAttitude 5 fans permalink
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He's cutting defense spending. Not very smart!!

Defense investments also meet the definition of a sensible stimulus according to mainstream economists: Government should spend where private resources are slack; though the defense industry was trimmed down in the 1990s, there is tremendous excess capacity in major sectors like aircraft and shipbuilding. Defense spending would also meet other critical benchmarks. . . Major programs depend upon a nationwide manufacturing base. Lockheed Martin is the prime contractor on the F-22 fighter, but the program is the effort of 1,000 suppliers who employ 95,000 people — including an efficient, unionized manufacturing workforce — in 44 states. -Weekly Standard

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 02/06/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 257 fans permalink

The USA spends more than all the other countries in the world combined,

On war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 02/06/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 257 fans permalink

Funny, how you GOP claim spending a the F22 stimulates the ecomoy,

but spending domestically does not.

You are the most organized liars in history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 02/06/2009
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This is the First time I will give Rush Limbaugh a compliment. He said: "I hope Obama fails"

And here's the compliment:

At least he was honest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 02/07/2009
- repearwo I'm a Fan of repearwo 35 fans permalink
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Military Spending today helps blow up bridges around the world and allow bridges at home to collapse at home from neglect. If our economy fails the military fails shortly behind it. Fuel for our military comes from potential adversaries.

The Nazi's made a last ditch effort to push back the Allies in the Battle of the Bulge. They lost because they had to abandon the best tanks in the world at the time in the field because had not fuel.

Military spending needs to be cut and the funds saved need to be poured into rebuilding the USA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 AM on 02/09/2009
- jjj1951 I'm a Fan of jjj1951 4 fans permalink

The President is going to be visiting Elkhart, IN on Monday which is about 20 miles from where I live. Elkhart county, which is heavily dependent on the RV industry, has unemployment around 16 to 17 percent. This is what the President should have done from the beginning. A series of appearances in the hard hit parts of the country. He should especially visit hard hit GOP areas of the country and tell them their representatives are playing politics with their future. As an aside, a Republican senator again today was scoffing at parts of the bill. He was criticizing the 150 million for honeybee raisers insurance. Now I know that Republicans don't believe in science. They probably think that God sends millions of tiny angels down to earth to pollinate all the fruit and vegetable crops. Of course, since pollinated crops only account for about 70 billion dollars of our agricultural output; why worry!!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 02/06/2009

Ya i heard about that. The repubs said to just give the bees a tax break and they promised to fly straight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 02/06/2009
- blastocyst I'm a Fan of blastocyst 27 fans permalink

Now that is flippin' funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 02/06/2009
- repearwo I'm a Fan of repearwo 35 fans permalink
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But Stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 AM on 02/09/2009

They have enough votes to pass it already.

What they are trying to do is make it filibuster proof. Vote it through, get it passed, and then make the Republican foot-draggers try to filibuster it afterwards.

These right-wing political losers are hurting the entire country just to make a political point. Unemployment is nearing 10% and these nuts are nit-picking everything in the bill.

Their conduct is a national disgrace. Before you punish your kid for anything he or she does wrong today, make a phone call to these stooges to get moving to help the country cause their conduct is much, much worse than anything your kid might be doing.

EVEN THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS (LIKE FLORIDA GOVERNOR CHARLIE CRIST) ARE BEGGING FOR THIS BILL TO BE PASSED!

ENOUGH ALREADY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 02/06/2009

Well too bad he Charlie Crist isn't in the Senate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 02/06/2009

No, what is happening is that the Obama camp wants the republicans behind this thing. That way when it FAILS, and it will, he can say the repubs were also behind it and save him self some political capital at the same time~

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 02/07/2009
- repearwo I'm a Fan of repearwo 35 fans permalink
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IF it passes it will not fail, but it will not be enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 AM on 02/09/2009

It was sooooo good!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 02/06/2009
- Yaaawn I'm a Fan of Yaaawn 5 fans permalink
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Think Obama is a little over head...I think he starting to panic. He seems to be lashing out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 02/06/2009

You wish, but don't worry we the people stand behind him all the way, whatever it takes.
The republicans know it, corporate media knows it and that's why we have a little kindergarten drama going on right know.
We'll handle it, rest assured!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 02/06/2009
- Yaaawn I'm a Fan of Yaaawn 5 fans permalink
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You sound brainwashed......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 02/06/2009

You what's funny? I heard more republican talk about what the economy needs that I've heard from them in the last 8 years. None of them had the (you know what) to speak up when we were being driving of this cliff, now all of a sudden they know what we need to do. Nonsense! Im not saying the bill is perfect but Im saying at least we are tying to get one that works unlike that last administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 02/06/2009
- Yaaawn I'm a Fan of Yaaawn 5 fans permalink
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Then get it done and stop trying to get us to buy into your turkey

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 02/06/2009
- indi1216 I'm a Fan of indi1216 7 fans permalink

it will be done, if the rethugs step aside...and the capable people do all the work, where they are stand aside and talk all they want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 02/06/2009

"Obama's doing his job, if he didn't anything you would be complaining about that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 02/06/2009
- Yaaawn I'm a Fan of Yaaawn 5 fans permalink
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What's the matter you don't like competition?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 02/06/2009
- repearwo I'm a Fan of repearwo 35 fans permalink
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What does that mean? Competition in what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 AM on 02/09/2009
- boozydale I'm a Fan of boozydale 2 fans permalink
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Do ya think the Obama guy is just trying to increase the size of government­....everyt­hing in this sloppy package is to ensure governments survival...nothing for the common man....The "Change" he has been harping on for 2 years has turned out to be full blown socialism...I do believe there are enough americans left that will indeed step up and prevent this from happening....His little adventure into President Hood has already begun to fracture.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 02/06/2009
- gi I'm a Fan of gi 7 fans permalink
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So do you really think your rethugz can fix the economy. Why didn't big daddy of the GOP fix it. He couldn't see it comming if he got slap in the face with it. He was still in denial like the rest of the GOP sheeps. They only know two words TAX CUT. You keep it up all you gonna have is change in your pockets you trolls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 02/06/2009
- Yaaawn I'm a Fan of Yaaawn 5 fans permalink
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Last time I checked you had the Congress and the finance committee for years. Why didn't you fix it. You have the power of the purse..not the President

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 02/06/2009
- jhm1953 I'm a Fan of jhm1953 2 fans permalink

Unbelievable. There is plenty there for the common man. The overall plan is to create new jobs which is the only true way to get the economy going and not depend on the same old tax cut crap. This is not about socialisim; it is about turning things around and helping people get back to work. To say that his "little adventure into presdient-hood hs begun to fracture" is to totally ignore the fact that in only two weeks he has truly done more than President Shrub or his syncophants did in the last eight years. Get real!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 02/06/2009
- Badfickle I'm a Fan of Badfickle 117 fans permalink

For the GOP these days anything that does not advance a fuedalistic society with no middle class is "socialism." Its the hot button boogieman word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 02/06/2009
- Badfickle I'm a Fan of Badfickle 117 fans permalink

We've tried your economic philosophy. It failed. It is crumbling around use.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 02/06/2009
- Yaaawn I'm a Fan of Yaaawn 5 fans permalink
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Not necessarily. That economic philosophy has been around for decades under Dems and Republicans. To say that is easy and not necessarily true

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 02/06/2009
- indi1216 I'm a Fan of indi1216 7 fans permalink

if it works better than what the rethugs have be doing for the past 8 years, so be it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 02/06/2009

You don't even know what the term socialism means.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 02/06/2009
- monty I'm a Fan of monty 27 fans permalink
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"I want to acknowledge the great Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, who has proven to be an extraordinary leader for the American people."

BARF !!!!

She's been extraordinarily ineffective and unwilling to uphold the law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 02/06/2009
- aweissnet I'm a Fan of aweissnet 23 fans permalink
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Well, yeah, that made me a little ill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 02/06/2009
- RogHol I'm a Fan of RogHol 2 fans permalink
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Well, some cursing is ok. Obama is looking forward, thats the trick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 02/06/2009
- vsign I'm a Fan of vsign 33 fans permalink

Things are moving too fast for the old tired solutions.

Confidence needs to be reestablished. Confidence in the banking system/lending and confidence among the American people.

Can Obama give us confidence in America and our future? His whining and pouting does not help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 02/06/2009

The only ones who are whining are the republicans, they are so pathetic.

President Obama after just 2 weeks in office has achieved more good for the country than Bush in 8 years.
Mr President thank you for your great call to action yesterday.

Tell us where to go and when and we will stand there ready to take our country back.
You have our full support - all the way - whatever it takes.
This is our country and we are willing to fight for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 02/06/2009
- aweissnet I'm a Fan of aweissnet 23 fans permalink
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Can you please point me to the whining and pouting part? Cuz I missed it ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 02/06/2009
- wietog I'm a Fan of wietog 25 fans permalink
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3 DAY RETREAT AT THE SPA? Are you kidding me? How about day-long conferences at the Holiday Inn? Let's start saving money for god's sake!!!

These pampered pigs - all of them - act as though being elected officials turns them into entitled elites. ENOUGH with the hypocrisy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 02/06/2009

There is no question that the economy is in dire straits, but the problem with taking action too quickly is that we might do things that make the economy worse.

The bank bailout is a good example of this: we thought we were providing a way to keep the banks afloat but instead we were providing a way for BILLIONS in bonuses to be paid out to executives that did not deserve the offices they were sitting in.

Instead of using fear tactics to pass the stimulus bill, it is time for rational discussion and debate so that we fill in the holes.

Would we have bailed out the banks so quickly if we knew how fast they would waste the money?

http://www.weeklypoint.com/2009/02/06/fear-tactics-to-pass-the-stimulus/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 02/06/2009
- dc2nm I'm a Fan of dc2nm 18 fans permalink

Sorry, but we will need even more money if we wait another month when we lose close to 700,000 more jobs.

There simply is not the same anxiety with Obama as with Bush. We all new Bush would screw it up, like everything else he touched.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 02/06/2009
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Do you mean Sarah Painlin PORK like her bridge to nowhere?

Or do you mean Democratic PORK like Health Care, New Roads, Bridges to Somewhere?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 02/06/2009
- ishok I'm a Fan of ishok 9 fans permalink

There is no perfect stimulus. The Republicans want our country to fail...politics will always be first with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 02/06/2009
- aweissnet I'm a Fan of aweissnet 23 fans permalink
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No, they just want 1/2 of us to either leave the country, or to dle, apparently.

The country as it is, cannot support this population. Perhaps they want an elite race race, with a few serfs to work for them. The rest should be outsourced, where possible, to third world countries.

However, the corporation will not continue without the consumerism that made them so fat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 02/06/2009

One unseen item in the so-called 'stimulus' bill is that the end result will be massive inflation. Look, the money supply grew by $691 billion in '08 (not including the end of year spending). They have been able to counteract the increase in the money supply by decreasing the interest rate. Now, with interest rates so low, they can't go any lower and if you increase the money supply in the pipeline, that's a recipe for inflation where you have too much money and not enough goods and services.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 02/06/2009
- jnutlfam2 I'm a Fan of jnutlfam2 9 fans permalink

I agree however, eventually drawing down money spent in Irag would aid in slowing this inflation as will getting rid of those tax cuts the repubs want so badly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 02/06/2009
- Badfickle I'm a Fan of Badfickle 117 fans permalink

That may very well be true. The only alternative may be a 1930's style depression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 02/06/2009
- jnutlfam2 I'm a Fan of jnutlfam2 9 fans permalink

Fault paulson, bush and repubs for that the sky is falling scenario to save the banks. now repubs are moving slow to save the people. who would you think is more right, obama or repubs? Who has the peoples interest in mind?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 02/06/2009
- blastocyst I'm a Fan of blastocyst 27 fans permalink

The President said: "...now is the time to act".

Really emphasizing the word "act".
It is time to get moving GOP. You're holding the Nation hostage to your churlish petulance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 02/06/2009

No. Obama is.

The dems can create any plan they want and pass it. Obama wants the Republicans to get on board and share the responsibility, as well as the blame if it fails and the thanks if it passes. If Obama moves ahead without the GOP, he and the Dems risk getting thrown out in 2010 and 2012 if the plan fails.

Obama can get things going if he and the Dems act on their own. He has to choose between trying to get the GOP on board and bringing about bipartisanship (which is failing spectacularly) or he can tell them he needs to act NOW!!! and risk making things between the GOP and the Dems worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 02/06/2009
- gysgtmarty I'm a Fan of gysgtmarty 2 fans permalink

Obama is starting to sound like a used car salesman...Buy now, as is, this deal wont be here tomorow!!! He says that the bill can't be perfect. Yeah, but how about a somewhat clean bill. Leave all the pork out of it!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 02/06/2009
- dc2nm I'm a Fan of dc2nm 18 fans permalink

Tell that to all the people that just lost their jobs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 02/06/2009
- Badfickle I'm a Fan of Badfickle 117 fans permalink

What do you think is pork in the bill? How much is "pork? "

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 02/06/2009
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Explain to all the craftspeople associated with the movie industry how anything that affects their business is pork; or the musicians that play in an orchestra, or the nurses that provide health carte or the people that would work on "ATV trails" etc...ask them how keeping them working is pork...?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 02/06/2009

No.

He's sounding like the Republican Governors that are begging the Senate to pass the bill!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 02/06/2009
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