GOP Opposes Pay Limits On Bailed-Out Bankers

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February 6, 2009 07:36 AM

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Wall Street bankers, with their $18 billion in bonuses, private jets and gaudy conferences, are causing headaches for the GOP.

President Obama has proposed capping compensation for executives at banks that take taxpayer bailout money at $500,000. Republicans hate the idea -- a position puts them uncomfortably on the side of people currently about as popular as child-porn producers and subprime mortgage brokers.

Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-AZ) blamed the "tone deaf" bankers for creating the political environment that allows Obama to call for a cap.

"Because of their excesses, very bad things begin to happen, like the United States government telling a company what it can pay its employees. That's not a good thing in America," Kyl told the Huffington Post.

"What executives have done is troubling, but it's equally troubling to have government telling shareholders how much they can pay the executives," said Sen. Mel Martinez (R-FL).

Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) said that he is "one of the chief defenders of Obama on the Republican side" for the president's efforts to reach across the aisle. But, said Inhofe, "as I was listening to him make those statements I thought, is this still America? Do we really tell people how to run [a business], and who to pay and how much to pay?"

Democrats argue that banks that take government money must accept any rules the government decides to send with it. Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry and Rep. Barney Frank are both working on legislation that would complement Obama's attempt to get a handle on executive compensation.

It's not a novel concept, and it's one the GOP supports -- when applied to welfare recipients, at least. "We demand that welfare recipients do an honest day's work for their checks. And now, since President Obama laid down the law Wednesday, we demand that the guys who ran our banking system into the ground abide by our pay scales in return for our bailing them out," writes Harold Meyerson in a column Friday.

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"After all, what's the moral distinction between welfare recipients and the wizards of Wall Street, other than that the welfare recipients aren't the ones responsible for tanking the global economy?"

Welfare reform that passed in the 1990s created the program called Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). The government intervenes intimately into the lives of TANF recipients, requiring drug testing, time spent doing government approved activities and near-constant documentation of continuing compliance. The intervention is justified by reference to the payments being made.

One House Democratic aide quipped that bankers should be required to jump through some of the same hoops that welfare recipients are, beyond a simple salary cap. He suggested making bankers fulfill a strict work requirement and submit a time sheet, signed by a supervisor -- perhaps the Board of Directors -- in 15-minute intervals, proving that they worked 40 hours each week. Only certain activities would count, as is the case with TANF recipients.

"That three hour jet ride to get to the meeting in Chicago doesn't count. Reading the Wall Street Journal is also not a countable activity. If they fail to do this once, you cut them off of TARP funds. If they fudge the time sheet, you charge them with TARP fraud and make them pay back any government money they've received," the aide joked. "I'm sensing a legislative opportunity."

Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS), though, said the underlying reasoning has merit. What applies to welfare recipients ought to also apply to corporate welfare recipients, he said.

"I think it does apply to that," he said. "People are livid about these big bonuses and if the groups want to take government money it seems they should be able to have some limits on these bonuses."

"If they don't need it, don't want it, fine. Don't take it," the Kansas Republican added.

Other Republicans disagreed. "It's still government running business," Inhofe said.

"It's a leap, because the executive at the bank is a free agent who can leave the bank and go to work someplace else," said Sen. Bob Bennett (R-UT) of the welfare comparison. "You run the risk of having a brain drain at the bank of their top talent."

Bennett said, "Some of the things some of these bank executives have been doing demonstrates they have a tin ear. At the same time, I'm generally troubled by wage and price control, no matter how logical it may appear."

The objection to the government intervention in salaries is rooted in the Republican belief that government is inherently ineffective. "If Congress can run a financial institution, it belies everything I've seen in this body. Government does not do a good job running private institutions," said Sen. Kit Bond (R-MO).

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) agreed: "If we do such a good job of running the federal government, what business do we have telling them how to run the banks?"

The GOP is also concerned that setting compensation limits could put the country on the road to serfdom. "This is just a symptom of what happens when the government intervenes and we start controlling all aspects of the economy. This is just the first piece," said Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC). "If you accept the fact that the government should be setting pay scales in America, then it's hard not to go after these exorbitant salaries. But I think it's a sad day in America when the government starts setting pay, no matter how outlandish they are."

"What are we going to do next?" wondered Martinez. "Tell a company if they get TARP money where there offices should be? They should be renting maybe from an abandoned federal building?"

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) may have had the savviest responses to the tricky political question. McConnell didn't acknowledge that he'd been asked the query; he walked on to the Senate floor instead of answering. McCain declined to comment.

Opposition isn't uniform. Beyond Brownback, other Republican senators spoken to for this article, including Sens. Coburn, Richard Lugar (R-IN) and Orrin Hatch (R-UT), expressed some support for a government effort to control the salaries of executives of banks that take bailout money.

At least one Republican has thought about the plan and come around to it. "In theory, I don't like it. I just don't like the government telling private industry how to run their businesses," said Sen. John Thune (R-SD) when first asked about it.

About fifteen minutes later, Thune had changed his mind. "You know what? I think I'm for that," he said of Obama's plan. "I don't disagree with what he's doing."

Wall Street bankers, with their $18 billion in bonuses, private jets and gaudy conferences, are causing headaches for the GOP. President Obama has proposed capping compensation for executives at bank...
Wall Street bankers, with their $18 billion in bonuses, private jets and gaudy conferences, are causing headaches for the GOP. President Obama has proposed capping compensation for executives at bank...
 
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- Vinca I'm a Fan of Vinca 6 fans permalink

THEY HAVE BACKED OFF, CAPPING THE SALARY, OF THE CEO'S, OF COMPANIES, THAT HAVE GOTTEN BAIL-OUTS< THAT'S A DAMN CRYING SHAME

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 02/12/2009

Throw the GOP buns to the curb.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 02/10/2009

The last white house staff was writing porn, so it would be no surprise. . . After all, Mark Foley . . .

Anyway . . .
Someone who is just trying to get by on one of those CEO salaries needs those bonuses, especially when the company is about to fail.

Sure it is sad, when hundreds or thousands are thrown out of work, all their savings drained away, their pensions eaten up by Enron complications and CFO malfeasance. . .

But what about the poor CEOs?
How are they going to keep the jet gassed up and ready to go? Never know when the economy is going to go belly up, and you just have to fly out to Dubai, for instance.

And . . . Who else would take Mitch McConnell golfing. . . ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 02/09/2009

i assume the GOP has assured that the regular employees get to keep their pension funds if these banks eventually go bankrupt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 02/09/2009
- Nomccain I'm a Fan of Nomccain 34 fans permalink
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Sure they do ......the rich, corrupt party!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 02/09/2009

As if there was any doubt who these guys really represent. The only way Republicans ever get elected is by getting Southerners to vote race and abortion over wages and health care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 02/09/2009
- tifaret I'm a Fan of tifaret 2 fans permalink

How many of these republicans have said to their underage children, "as long as you live in my house and i pay the bills, you live by my rules"...?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 02/09/2009
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The CEOs who put the banks in the toilet should be fired for gross incompetence. We shouldn't have bailed them out without getting a say who would run them. Same with the auto industries or any of the other companies that we taxpayers are giving welfare. I actually think they should be in jail for theft but would settle for them losing their multiple mansions, jets, and any other valuables. Let them get in the soup lines just behind all the people they put out of work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 02/09/2009

I say, what the heck. Go ahead and raise the executive salary limit to ONE MILLION

"in the spirit of republican compromise".

Have to keep those republicans happy or they'll throw a baby tantrum. And remember, filthy rich bankers have monthly mansion payments and yaught maintenance fees too just like the rest of us multi-millionaires. Heaven forbid that a poor banker might get his Lear jet repo'd. He'd be the laughing stock of the country club.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 02/09/2009

If you are mad about this how your Congressman is behaving then write to them :https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

They need to know that b/c they are protecting million dollar bonuses, that next time there term is up, you are going vote for some one that cares about your situation, where you might be losing your job, losing your house, or living without health care...etc. Remind them who put them there, every voice count, so take a couple minutes and email them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 02/09/2009
- gmlaster I'm a Fan of gmlaster 32 fans permalink

I have been saying the same thing. It's time we add their names to the millions of unemployed, and elect people who are there to serve the people, not the banks and corporations.

Thanks for the link. It's done and the site is bookmarked. They can expect to hear from me every day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 02/09/2009
- dwright I'm a Fan of dwright 274 fans permalink
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Then the answer is simple to this GOP folks that don't like the idea. DO NOT TAKE MY TAX DOLLARS, period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 02/09/2009

Back in December, these same Republicans were raging about union wages and compensation, blustering that if the big three automakers wanted government money ( & those were loans) their employees should agree to earn no more than non-union workers in the industry. Investment bankers are different?

There is a full-fledged class war emerging from this crisis and it's going to get ugly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 AM on 02/09/2009

About time, too!

Sometimes it looks like if you are poor in this country you can't so much as get a cup of coffee without getting a lecture on why you have to own up to the responsibility for your failures.

If you are rich, on the other hand, no matter how blatantly incompetent you are or how royally you fcuk up you are "reprimanded" with things like the proposed 500 k salary cap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 02/09/2009

About time, too!

Sometimes it looks like if you are poor in this country you can't so much as get a cup of coffee without getting a lecture on why you have to own up to the responsibility for your failures.

If you are rich, on the other hand, no matter how blatantly incompetent you are or how royally you foul up you are "reprimanded" with things like the proposed 500 k salary cap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 02/09/2009

I'M paying- I'M saying!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 AM on 02/09/2009
- marecek I'm a Fan of marecek 16 fans permalink

This whole discussion is preposterous and completely absurd. Let's see, the banks and other financial institutions were/are in effect bankrupt, but they received from Congress a special dispensation from having to go through a banruptcy proceeding and, better yet, a nice cash infusion to keep going. If they had had to go through a bankruptcy proceeding, would anyone argue that they could damn well pay their executives whatever they please and no government should be interfering in the way capitalism works? HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If an individual went into personal bankruptcy, would they get to keep running up big charges on their credit cards? HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Once they have come to the trough and asked for corporate welfare, of course the state can attach conditions to how they conduct business. We are talking about TAX DOLLARS, not corporate profits, so they cannot do whatever they want with the money. The argument about not using tax dollars for bonuses, but using some other funds, is so bogus it isn't funny. Anyone with two brain cells knows that money is fungible, and the tax dollars allows them to free up funds to be used for the bonuses. By the way, hasn't it been made clear that they will be asking for more money?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 AM on 02/09/2009

It is not like there are no precedents for the restructuring of failed financial entities. In the case of the U.K. most CEO's had the decency to resign, all entities agreed to strict oversight. In the case of Japan, many CEO's fell on their swords, some quite literally, again strict oversight.

The message sent loud and clear by the GOP kabal is that they are above, or beneath such simple acts of decency. Given that the poor performance of the Thains and Rubins of this drama have serious consequences for a global cast of stakeholders who are not impressed by the transparently cheesy values of the GOP, it would seem necessary to hold these scoundrels accountable if/when the Japanese, Chinese and other foreign investors turn the spigot off.

As for the 'talent' issue -- as one who provides coaching/consulting services in this sector I can tell you that the talent absented itself from this crisis sometime back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 02/09/2009
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