Nadya Suleman, Octuplets Mom, Identifies Fertilization Clinic

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SHAYA TAYEFE MOHAJER | February 9, 2009 11:27 PM EST | AP

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This image made from a 2006 video provided by KTLA shows Nadya Suleman looking at a ultrasound of her unborn twins at an in-vitro fertilization clinic in Los Angeles. Suleman, who gave birth on Jan. 26, 2009 to octuplets, acknowledged in an interview aired Monday, Feb. 9, 2009 that she was "fixated" on having children but said she never expected to have more than twins in her latest pregnancy. (AP Photo/KTLA)

LOS ANGELES — The mother of octuplets was implanted with those embryos at a Beverly Hills fertility clinic run by a well-known _ and controversial _ specialist who pioneered a method of implantation. Dr. Michael Kamrava's name emerged Monday as a result of an interview aired Monday on NBC with Nadya Suleman, who gave birth to eight babies Jan. 26.

Over the past two weeks, the identity of Suleman's fertility doctor has been a source of great mystery because of questions over the ethics of implanting numerous embryos in a woman who already had six children.

Kamrava, 57, would not comment on the issue, but told reporters outside his clinic on Rodeo Drive that he had granted an interview to one of the television networks. When asked to provide more detail, he said, "Watch the news."

Without identifying the doctor, the Medical Board of California said last week it was looking into the Suleman case to see if there was a "violation of the standard of care." The medical board said Monday it has not taken any disciplinary action against Kamrava in the past.

In the NBC interview, Suleman did not identify her doctor by name, but said that she went to the West Coast IVF Clinic in Beverly Hills _ of which Kamrava is director _ and that all 14 of her children were conceived with help from the same doctor. In 2006, Los Angeles TV station KTLA ran a story on infertility that showed Kamrava treating Suleman and discussing embryo implantation.

Kamrava graduated from the University of Illinois and went to medical school at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, according to state records and his Web site.

Some fertility specialists said Kamrava is a controversial figure in the field.

"He's tried some novel techniques and some of those methods have been controversial," said Dr. John Jain, founder of Santa Monica Fertility Specialists.

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Jain criticized the decision to implant so many embryos, saying: "I do think that this doctor really stepped outside the guidelines in a very extreme manner, and as such, put both the mother and children at extra high risk of disability and even death."

Dr. Jeffrey Steinberg, a professional acquaintance of Kamrava's, said Kamrava worked to develop an embryo transfer device that allows doctors to implant an embryo _ or sometimes sperm with an unfertilized egg _ directly into the uterine lining.

"Usually we inject the embryos into the uterus and they float around and attach themselves," Steinberg said. However, Steinberg said there was no evidence the method improved success rates for pregnancy.

It was not immediately known if the technique was used on Suleman.

Suleman said she had six embryos implanted for each of her pregnancies. The octuplets were a surprise result of her last set of six embryos, she said, explaining she had expected twins at most. Two of the embryos evidently divided in the womb.

Medical ethicists have criticized the implanting of so many embryos. National guidelines put the norm at two to three embryos for a woman of Suleman's age, except in extraordinary circumstances.

Kamrava's clinic performed 20 in vitro procedures on women under 35 in 2006, according to the most recent national report compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Of those 20 procedures, four resulted in pregnancies and two in births. One woman delivered twins.

The average number of embryos he transferred per procedure for women under 35 was 3.5, the report said. Fertility doctors often implant more than one embryo to increase the chances that one will take hold.

An in-vitro procedure typically costs between $8,000 and $15,000. Asked on NBC how she was able to afford the treatments, Suleman said she had saved money and used some of the more than $165,000 in disability payments she received after being injured in a 1999 riot at a state mental hospital where she worked.

She also told NBC that she does not intend to go on welfare, though her publicist confirmed Monday that Suleman already receives food stamps and child disability payments to help feed and care for her six other children.

Suleman's publicist Mike Furtney said she receives $490 a month in food stamps. Furtney said Suleman did not want to disclose the nature of her children's disabilities or the nature of those payments.

"In her view these are just payments made for people with legitimate needs and are not, in her view, welfare," Furtney said. "She just believes that there are programs for people with needs and she and her children qualify for some of them."

Dr. Richard Paulson, who heads the fertility program at the University of Southern California, cautioned against rushing to judgment about the fertility treatment in this case because questions remain about the quality of Suleman's eggs and whether there were any extraordinary circumstances that would lead Kamrava to transfer so many embryos.

As for the technique Kamrava pioneered, "those of us who are the scientists in the field do not feel this is a significant improvement," Paulson said. He said some doctors advertise that technique as "a way of making patients feel that they are trying something new."

Suleman, who is 33 and single, told NBC's "Today" show she was "fixated" on having children. Suleman said her doctor "did nothing wrong" and had warned her of possible complications to the pregnancy and risks to the development of the babies.

The octuplets were born nine weeks prematurely but appear relatively healthy. Their names have a Biblical theme: Noah, Jonah, Jeremiah, Josiah, Isaiah, Maliyah, Makai and Nariyah. All share the middle name Angel and the last name Solomon.

On Sunday, Suleman's mother, Angela Suleman, seemed to contradict her daughter's account, telling a Web site the fertility specialist who helped her daughter give birth to the octuplets was not the one who aided in the birth of her first six children.

In an interview with celebrity news Web site RadarOnline.com, Angela Suleman said she and Nadya's father pleaded with her first fertility doctor not to treat their daughter again. She said her daughter went to another doctor.

"I'm really angry about that," Angela Suleman said of the doctor's decision to perform the procedure. "She already has six beautiful children. Why would she do this? I'm struggling to look after her six. We had to put in bunk beds, feed them in shifts and there's children's clothing piled all over the house."

Angela Suleman said Nadya's boyfriend was the biological father of all 14 children, but that she refused to marry him.

"He was in love with her and wanted to marry her," she said. "But Nadya wanted to have children on her own."

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Associated Press Television News videographer John Mone and Associated Press Writer Alicia Chang contributed to this report.

LOS ANGELES — The mother of octuplets was implanted with those embryos at a Beverly Hills fertility clinic run by a well-known _ and controversial _ specialist who pioneered a method of implanta...
LOS ANGELES — The mother of octuplets was implanted with those embryos at a Beverly Hills fertility clinic run by a well-known _ and controversial _ specialist who pioneered a method of implanta...
 
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- BetterDays I'm a Fan of BetterDays 32 fans permalink
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Dr. Kamrava should volunteer his salary to pay the large cost to society for his medical malpractice. At the very least, his license should be revoked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 AM on 02/13/2009
- redsongia I'm a Fan of redsongia 88 fans permalink
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Too bad selfish Nadya lives in a state where many people are as irresponsible as she is.

Now that California is broke and many charities have lost their money in the stock market or outright to narcisistic theives like Bernie Madoff, who will send her food stamps and donations?

She was counting on us, and, as it turns out, "we" are just as self-centered as she is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 02/12/2009
- OpalSky42 I'm a Fan of OpalSky42 15 fans permalink

What will she do when her (overworked!) mother passes on? Why aren't Child Welfare Services doing a thorough review on this scary woman and her 14 kids? The kids are innocent pawns and deserve a home with parents who will not only care for them but know who each kid is. With that many children, there is no way to give any kind of individual attention. Also, if all 14 were fathered by the same sperm donor, he should have to help shoulder their support IF he knew about it. If he was a donor at a sperm bank, then no, but if he knew that she wanted to conceive and provided her with sperm, then, yeah, he should be on the hook, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 02/12/2009
- MsCanadian I'm a Fan of MsCanadian 7 fans permalink
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The doctor was completely irresponsible, and should face disciplinary action. How will these children receive the care they need, with a mother who already had 6 children and couldn't look after them properly?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 02/12/2009

We can Thank West Coast Fertility Clinic for help creating such a mess. Shame that you did not consider this women's personal circumstances first. No income, on welfare with 6 kids already. under the age of 7 years. Nice job doc, why don't you now support them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 02/10/2009

That's not nearly as bad as the doctor transferring six embryos at once to a woman whose condition only required one at a time, two at the absolute most.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 02/10/2009

So her mother pled with her not to do this, but she went ahead and circumvented her parent's arrangements and stealthily used her settlement money to bring her mom eight extra mouths to feed, and to change diapers for, and to keep safe, and to bathe... OMG!!!

If I were Angela, I'd be suing that second doctor for everything he's got! Permanent child support! The works! And I'd be threatening to do the same to any doctor who aided and abetted her daughter's obsession with babies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 02/10/2009
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Nadya is certifiably insane... but what is the "Doctor's" excuse? I want to see him prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law ... What he did was not only unethical, but dangerous and against the Hippocratic oath.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 02/10/2009

The doctor has NO excuse.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-octuplets10-2009feb10,0,1003761.story

The doctor claims to be an innovator with a specialized procedure, but it turns out he has one of the worst results nationally. In 2006, 61 procedures resulted in 5 pregnancies and two births. That's only 8% pregnancies and 3% live births, compared to about 25% nationally for births.

Kamrava averaged 3.5 embryo transfers per cycle for women under 35, well above the recommended number and the national average, which was 2.5 in 2004 . In 2004 he averaged 5.3 for women 35-37, double the average. In some years he had zero success with women over 35.

National 2004 averages:
http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/ART2004/nation04.asp

West Coast Clinic:
http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/ART2004/clindata04.asp?Location=17

2005 - clinic failed to report numbers as required by law:
http://www.cdc.gov/ART/ART2005/appixc_nonreport.htm

Two of Kamrava's former employees sued him, for allegations of systematic insurance and tax fraud, and said he asked employees who weren't licensed to participate in medical procedures.

The doctor asked patients to pay CASH and didn't report those payments for taxes or insurance, keeping two sets of books. Also, double billing insurance companies and billing them for unnecessary medication, selling that medicine to other patients off the books.

Another employee who worked there a month sued and won $300k, an embryologist who said they fought over "the proper heating of embryos".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 02/10/2009
- jozinha I'm a Fan of jozinha 21 fans permalink
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The truth is, if this woman were African American she would not have gotten even the interview.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 02/09/2009

Bull hockey - there were octuplets born ten years ago to a black couple and they got plenty of coverage (the tenth birthdays of their kids just were in the news).

If this gets more coverage it's only because it is more interesting because it is a medical, ethical, and social scandal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 02/10/2009
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My grocery bill is ki.ll.ing me. Can I get $50.00 in food stamps per month?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 02/09/2009
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My grocery bill is killing me. Can I get $50.00 in food stamps per month?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 02/09/2009

and how'd she pay for those lips? who's going to pay for this 'larger home'? these poor kids are doomed! what a selfish ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 02/09/2009
- Freesia2 I'm a Fan of Freesia2 281 fans permalink

So if I am remembering all the details correctly - she's living with the first 6 kids in a cramped apartment that grandma is paying for, she's on worker's comp, and food stamps, yet has some source of money that paid for plastic surgery and expensive fertility treatments and has now run up a kazillion dollar bill for the care of 8 tiny babies with delivery fees and neonatal care at a hospital.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 02/09/2009
- jukesgrrl I'm a Fan of jukesgrrl 72 fans permalink
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But "In her view these are just payments made for people with legitimate needs and are not, in her view, welfare." Just in case you got the idea you're paying for this insanity with your tax dollars, you're not ... in her view. Facts, once again, are irrelevant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 02/10/2009
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In vitro fertilization is very expensive. How did she pay for so many procedures?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 02/09/2009
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