Australia Wildfires Caused Partly By Global Warming, Says Expert

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ROHAN SULLIVAN | February 10, 2009 01:35 PM EST | AP

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Embers glow on a small stump among blackened trees at Chum Creek, near Healseville, north east of Melbourne, Australia Tuesday, Feb. 10, 2009. Officials believe arson may be behind at least some of the more than 400 fires that tore a destructive path across a vast swath of southern Victoria state over the weekend. (AP Photo/Rick Rycroft)

SYDNEY — Australia may be getting a glimpse of its globally warmed future.

Experts agreed Tuesday that no one drought, flood or wildfire can be attributed to global warming, but they stressed that the eucalyptus forest and farms of southeastern Australia are becoming warmer, drier and more prone to fire as the planet heats up.

Some say rising temperatures are making Australia's climate more extreme at the edges. Snow will disappear from the few mountains that still have it, the cyclones that batter the topical north could get more powerful and the conditions that set the southeast ablaze could become common.

"The terrible events of the past couple of weeks are, without doubt, partly the result of global warming and the greenhouse effect," said Neville Nicholls, an expert on climate change and wildfires at Australia's Monash University.

Global warming cannot be blamed for starting the hundreds of recent fires _ tens of thousands of such blazes erupt across Australia every fire season, from October to March _ but the effects of climate change exacerbated their ferocity, Nicholls said.

First, a decade of drought has made Australia's wild forests _ known as "the bush" _ tinder dry. Second, a sustained and record-breaking heat wave settled over the region. Lastly, record-smashing temperatures on Saturday topped 117 degrees Fahrenheit (47 degrees Celsius) and combined with winds up to 60 mph (100 kph) to whip fires into furnace-like intensity.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the Nobel Prize-winning team of scientists responsible for advising the United Nations about global warming, says the rise in the atmosphere's temperature could cause water shortages, crop failures, more deaths from heat waves and more severe storms around the world.

In Australia, it means more droughts in the dry south and more flooding in the tropical north. The Great Barrier Reef, the world's largest coral reef system rich in sealife and sensitive to small temperature changes, is in trouble.

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The Australian government's Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization concluded in 2007 that the country's average temperature will rise about 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit (1 C) by 2030 and up to 9 degrees F (5 C) by 2070 if greenhouse emissions are not curbed.

An island large enough to be counted as a continent, Australia's climate varies with its landscape. It is home to dry shifting dunes in the desert "red heart," misty Riesling grape-clad hills, and lush monsoonal rain forest and mangrove swamps.

Among the panel's forecasts: Climate change would likely mean less rain, but rainfalls that did occur would be more intense. Drought in the south _ the wheat-, sheep- and cattle-growing food belt _ would be more frequent and fires more common. Cyclones that are a regular feature of the summer months in the north would hit harder.

Even as southeastern Australia sweltered and the fires raged this week, some 60 percent of northeastern Queensland state was covered by floodwaters after weeks of drenching rain from a dying offshore cyclone. Three thousand homes were damaged. No deaths were reported.

While scientists cautioned against attributing the wildfires themselves to global warming, they said changing conditions from rising temperatures are having an impact.

"Australia _ and particularly the southeastern corner of Australia _ is fire prone, so a fire-prone environment coupled with a warmer and drier climate in the future is likely to increase the incidence of this kind of event," said Mark Adams, a wildfire expert at the University of Sydney. "But statistically, we won't be able to prove it for many decades."

Adams said Australia's peculiar ecosystems are particularly susceptible to the effects of climate change. An increase of just one or two degrees would cause snow in Australia to disappear, and its Great Barrier Reef and rainforests are particularly sensitive to warming, he said.

"But I don't think that on the whole Australia is more susceptible than many other _ or indeed any other _ continent," Adams said.

Penny Whetton, leader of the climate change research group at Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization, also cautioned against tying the fires too closely to global warming.

"Due to changes in the climate, the high risk of fires has increased and will increase," she said. "But that is different than saying climate change caused these fires. It's difficult to relate climate change to an individual weather event."

For conservationists, the dry conditions and the devastating fires bolster their campaign to push the world's governments to move faster on reducing emissions of greenhouse gases.

"It's a sobering reminder of the need for this nation and the whole world to act and to put at a priority our need to tackle climate change in a way that politicians have simply been unable or refused to do in past decades," said Sen. Bob Brown of the left-leaning Australian Greens party.

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Associated Press writers Kristen Gelineau in Sydney and Mike Casey in Bangkok, Thailand, contributed to this report.

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On the Net:

IPCC's assessment of Australia and New Zealand: http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg2/ar4-wg2-chapter11.pdf

SYDNEY — Australia may be getting a glimpse of its globally warmed future. Experts agreed Tuesday that no one drought, flood or wildfire can be attributed to global warming, but they stressed t...
SYDNEY — Australia may be getting a glimpse of its globally warmed future. Experts agreed Tuesday that no one drought, flood or wildfire can be attributed to global warming, but they stressed t...
 
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THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!

A suspect was just arrested for arson in connection with starting these fires, and the police are searching for others, and now this is being blamed on the global warming hoax, talk about desperation... I saw Al (100 million dollar man) Gore yesterday say that scientists predicted the fires, and now he`s calling it a climate crisis, I guess global warming and climate change wasn`t working, so let`s see what lies he comes up with next week. Everything is now being blamed on climate, the alarmists are in desperation mode, they don`t want that big money to dry up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 02/13/2009
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http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=191806

FORMER scientific adviser to the Prime Minister and eminent scientist Vasant Gowarikar feels that global warming has not affected the Indian climatic system.

Speaking at the inauguration of a National Council for Science & Technology Communication (NCSTC) sponsored workshop at Yashwantrao Chavan Academy of Development Administration (YASHADA), Gowarikar pointed towards the India Meteorological Departments data on cyclones and rainfall, which are indicators of global warming.

‘‘If we look at the last 115 years of data on cyclones, we will find that the highest number of cyclones (10) hit the country in 1893, 1926 and 1930. If we check last 20 years’ data, the highest number of cyclones in that period, which is six, hit the Indian shores in 1992 and 1998,’’ Gowarikar said.

He then pointed out that the highest rainfall recorded in the country was in 1917, with 1457.3 cm of rainfall and the lowest was around 913 cm in 1918. ‘‘In the last 20 years, the highest rainfall was recorded in 1988 with 1288 cms while the lowest was in 2000 with 939 cms. If climate change has taken place in terms of warming, that should reflect on this data. But there is nothing to indicate the claims of warming affecting the Indian climate system,’’ Gowarikar said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 02/12/2009
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Okay, so "climate change" caused the fires, and is responsible for all the extreme (fires, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, thunderstorms, blizzards, warming oceans, cooling oceans, polar ice disappearing, polar ice reforming, antarctic ice shelfs breaking off, antarctic ace growning, etc.) changes.

Could someone point to the analytical data that shows "extreme" weather events are at an all-time high?

Granted such comparisons are a bit difficult, since 100 years ago there were few scientists tracking and logging such climate events.

So let's say starting around 1950... a decade by decade comparison...

After all, if the fires are caused by climate change, and Katrina was caused by climate change, Las Vegas snow was caused by climate change, record cold is caused by climate change, etc., then it would be interesting to see a comparison over what scientists have recorded over the last 60 years or so.

Do any of the climate change sites have such documentation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 02/12/2009
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ENVIRONMENTALISTS KILL AUSTRALIANS IN BRUSH FIRES

One of Australia’s leading bushfire experts, Rod Incoll, warned Nillumbik Shire Council in a 2003 report that it risked devastation if it went ahead with changes to planning laws proposed by green groups that restricted the removal of vegetation.

Mr Incoll, the Victorian fire chief from 1990 to 1996, and David Packham, a former CSIRO bushfire scientist and academic who also produced a report on the issue, argued against the regulations, which actively encouraged the builders of new homes to plant trees around the houses for aesthetic reasons.
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Mr Packham, now an honorary senior research fellow at Monash University’s school of geography and environmental science, wrote in his report, after inspecting the Kinglake to Heidelberg Road: “The mix of fuel, unsafe roadsides and embedded houses, some with zero protection and no hope of survival, will all ensure that when a large fire impinges upon the area a major disaster will result.”

Mr Incoll said that in 2003, green groups were pushing for changes to planning laws that included restrictions on the removal of vegetation, “and worse still, the requirement for planting vegetation around and almost over houses, as part of any planning permit to build a house in the shire of Nillumbik, so it gave the appearance from the outside of being a forest“.

Link:

http://iainhall.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/warning-ignored-in-green-wedge-shire/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 02/11/2009
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Thanks for this, it is what i was saying at the top of Page 1.

I await a response from Happyez, and others.

FWIW - I think this also raises issues about letting ppl build in high fire risk areas anyway. (Ditto for flood plains)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 02/11/2009
- valkyrie607 I'm a Fan of valkyrie607 102 fans permalink
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Indeed. Archeological records indicate that the Aboriginals, much like the American Indians in the west of this country, probably managed the landscape for increased visibility and game frequency by periodically setting fires. By doing this, they burned out all the brush, debris, and smaller vegetation. They created a savannah-like landscape which was favorable to the larger mammals that were their favored prey.

I'm surprised that Australia had a policy of preventing people from clearing brush. In the American west, we've gone through that same phase of misunderstanding the role of fire in the landscape. Australians could have learned from our mistakes--or from Britain's mistakes in managing forests in India, for that matter.

Nevertheless, none of this changes the fact that global climate disruption is a fact. It is happening, and it's extremely likely, though currently unprovable (we'll have to wait a decade at least to get meaningful statistics) that increased temperatures caused by the increased presence of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere exacerbated the severity of these fires.

"Exacerbated." Not "caused." Get the difference?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 02/11/2009
- Exusian I'm a Fan of Exusian 25 fans permalink

And people like you constantly bray about climate "alrmists" and "sensational" headlines.

Hypocrites, every one of you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 02/11/2009
- Bystander I'm a Fan of Bystander 7 fans permalink

Or is it global warming caused partly by Australian fires? Hmmmmm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 02/11/2009
- Exusian I'm a Fan of Exusian 25 fans permalink

Try doing the math and then get back to us, hmmmm?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 02/11/2009
- Bystander I'm a Fan of Bystander 7 fans permalink

Waste of time to debate bogus issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 02/11/2009
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actually The Australians are outraged at the GANGGREEN LAWS that have caused deaths and destruction .. at one council meeting a man called them DICKHEADS for allowing people to die , by not allowing them to cut prairie grass, cut trees, clear brush,,,,,,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 02/11/2009

Slick,...pull the lead on economy, bankers & Obama. Show pictures of fires instead. Put on tinfoil hats for Global Warming show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 02/11/2009

I am hopeful that the recent satellite launched by Japan will begin to collect the data necessary to evaluate the warming emissions around the globe. (They say that it will record data every few minutes instead of every two weeks.)

The scientists then can reform the current models for warming acceleration and give us a better picture of how much damage has been done to our planet.

Then, all the naysayers and the "world is not warming but cooling" crowd can finally toddle off to the lunatic asylum where others like them can appreciate their delusional fantasies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 AM on 02/11/2009

These people are not experts they are professional scaremongers trying to entrench their careers and increase thier power.

Listen to Australia's leading Bushfire Expert - a REAL expert - Mr. Phil Cheney:
While temperatures rising several degrees might increase the fire danger by one or 2 per cent, doubling the fuel load doubled the threat, the head of CSIRO's bushfires research unit Phil Cheney said. "It's very difficult to protect a home and life in tall forest,"
To save a home in fires like those at the weekend, residents would have needed to have cleared an area of about 30 to 40 metres of flammable material, Mr Cheney said. Evidence from the 2003 Canberra fires also suggested anyone with a mulched garden around their house guaranteed its destruction.
Another CSIRO expert, Andrew Sullivan, said nothing could be done about weather and topography. "Methods for managing the fuel is about the only option we have in trying to mitigate the impacts of fires," he said.
(Australian Associated Press, February 10, 2009)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 02/11/2009
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Indeed. Archeological records indicate that the Aboriginals, much like the American Indians in the west of this country, probably managed the landscape for increased visibility and game frequency by periodically setting fires. By doing this, they burned out all the brush, debris, and smaller vegetation. They created a savannah-like landscape which was favorable to the larger mammals that were their favored prey.

I'm surprised that Australia had a policy of preventing people from clearing brush. In the American west, we've gone through that same phase of misunderstanding the role of fire in the landscape. Australians could have learned from our mistakes--or from Britain's mistakes in managing forests in India, for that matter.

Nevertheless, none of this changes the fact that global climate disruption is a fact. It is happening, and it's extremely likely, though currently unprovable (we'll have to wait a decade at least to get meaningful statistics) that increased temperatures caused by the increased presence of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere exacerbated the severity of these fires.

"Exacerbated." Not "caused." Get the difference?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 02/11/2009

Man this very alarming. I wished that Captain Planet Exists! http://jobstaxi.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 02/10/2009

The high priests of man made global warming claim everything is due to man made global warming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 02/10/2009
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"Exacerbated by"

not

"due to"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 02/10/2009
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"Many extreme weather events"

not

"everything"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 02/10/2009
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"Global climate disruption"

not

"Global warming"

There. Happy with your edits? You make a lot more sense now! ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 02/10/2009
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"Yeah, but it cold here in the Northern Hemisphere," exclaim science-challenged wingnuts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 02/10/2009
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We have the same problem in British Columbia, Canada with increased forest fires and global warming is reported to also be a factor.

Gooooooooooooo capitalism!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 02/10/2009
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So... when severe weather events happen, a global change in climate is surely among the causes,

However, other weather events like cold fronts serve so purpose as evidence against global warming.

Unless it's sunny, dry, and 72 degrees, global warming ruins local weather. Got it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 02/10/2009
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A more accurate term than "global warming" is "climate change." Scientists predict all kinds of crazy weather, due to the changes in the atmosphere.

If the Atlantic ocean warms by even a few degrees it could throw the Gulf Stream off course and as a result, Northern Europe would experience extremely cold weather, on a par with the farthest reaches of Norway, Finland, etc.

Climate change may also responsible for sever flooding and drought, and as we've seen in Australia, with devastating consequences.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 02/10/2009
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Yes, the term 'Climate Change' was introduced when ppl started asking why it was so cold when we were meant to be sufferring 'Global Warming'.

'Climate Change' is a great catch-all to describe freakish weather. But since we weren't around 1,000 years ago we really can't be sure if these changes are cyclical, can we? Maybe when we develop time travel we can go back (or forward) and see how bad things are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 02/11/2009
- JEP57 I'm a Fan of JEP57 5 fans permalink

I wish some of that Australian global warming would make its way here to New England where we've had some of the coldest weather in years. My thermometer has read below zero at sun up probably six times in the last two weeks. If it's "global" warming, then this has to get averaged into all the other temperatures around the world. It can't always be taking place some place else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 02/10/2009
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Right. Thank you for elucidating the difference between "weather" and "climate."

If you're looking for signs of global warming in the northern hemisphere, look at the northward migration of arctic and sub-arctic species, as well as the changing bloom times of various temperatur­e-sensitiv­e species.

Climate models are global and long-term, and they do predict the most severe effects will be between 0-30 degrees latitude.

So go look up "weather" and "climate" in the dictionary. Things will make a lot more sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 02/10/2009
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I should say: severe effects are also predicted for the poles--these effects are already being observed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 02/10/2009

the northward migration is them trying to escape the impending global carbon tax on the air we breathe

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 02/10/2009
- Exusian I'm a Fan of Exusian 25 fans permalink

"...to New England where we've had some of the coldest **weather** in years."

Bingo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 02/10/2009
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Yes and to see a pattern you would have to see if there were more very cold days vs more very hot days. In any case, the fires are tragic, not something to make light of or talk about yourself JEP57.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 02/10/2009

Yes, the "warming" has been so bad that I read about another person that froze to death in their home after their power was cut off.

Such nonsense!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 02/10/2009
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Kingcityguru, someone froze to death in the middle of summer?!! It is the middle of summer in Australia right now mate. You know, the southern hemisphere, the other half of the planet that you deniers have forgotten about. Where average temps are running a full 5-7 degrees above average,( in Australia) as opposed to the 3/10 degree below average of the northern hemisphere. Some more "nonsense" for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 02/11/2009
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Um, no you don't. Not unless you are willing to live with 100 + degree temperatures and a decade long draught.

My sister lives outside of Melbourne and the hotter than normal weather and lack of rain is a huge concern. She knows five people who died in the fire this weekend and she would be more than happy to live through "some of the coldest weather in years."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 02/10/2009
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Yeah, it's so warm here in Melbourne that I'm about to go outside and turn on our central heating, which I only turned off a week before Christmas. It's 15c (59F) here at the moment. Sure, we had a couple of hot days, but we have hot days every summer, if anything, the weather has been mild.

As for a lack of rain (it rained on and off for the last two days), Climate Change scientists (so they're believers) have recently attributed the drought to climate patterns in the Indian Ocean, prior to that El Nino was believed exclusively to be the driver of weather here. Not climate change, natural weather cycles that have always been here.

Trust me, ring your sister now Anastasia, and ask her what the temp is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 02/10/2009
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