Satellites Collide 500 Miles Over Siberia (VIDEO)

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AP, Russia Today   |  MARCIA DUNN   |   February 11, 2009 09:08 PM

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CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — Two big communications satellites collided in the first-ever crash of its kind in orbit, shooting out a pair of massive debris clouds and posing a slight risk to the international space station. NASA said it will take weeks to determine the full magnitude of the crash, which occurred nearly 500 miles over Siberia on Tuesday.

"We knew this was going to happen eventually," said Mark Matney, an orbital debris scientist at Johnson Space Center in Houston.

NASA believes any risk to the space station and its three astronauts is low. It orbits about 270 miles below the collision course. There also should be no danger to the space shuttle set to launch with seven astronauts on Feb. 22, officials said, but that will be re-evaluated in the coming days.

The collision involved an Iridium commercial satellite, which was launched in 1997, and a Russian satellite launched in 1993 and believed to be nonfunctioning. The Russian satellite was out of control, Matney said.

The Iridium craft weighed 1,235 pounds, and the Russian craft nearly a ton.

No one has any idea yet how many pieces were generated or how big they might be.

"Right now, they're definitely counting dozens," Matney said. "I would suspect that they'll be counting hundreds when the counting is done."

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As for pieces the size of micrometers, the count will likely be in the thousands, he added.

This was the first high-speed impact between two intact spacecraft, NASA officials said.

There have been four other cases in which space objects have collided accidentally in orbit, NASA said. But those were considered minor and involved parts of spent rockets or small satellites.

Nicholas Johnson, an orbital debris expert at the Houston space center, said the risk of damage from Tuesday's collision is greater for the Hubble Space Telescope and Earth-observing satellites, which are in higher orbit and nearer the debris field.

At the beginning of this year there were roughly 17,000 pieces of manmade debris orbiting Earth, Johnson said. The items, at least 4 inches in size, are being tracked by the U.S. Space Surveillance Network, which is operated by the military. The network detected the two debris clouds created Tuesday.

Litter in orbit has increased in recent years, in part because of the deliberate breakups of old satellites. It's gotten so bad that orbital debris is now the biggest threat to a space shuttle in flight, surpassing the dangers of liftoff and return to Earth. NASA is in regular touch with the Space Surveillance Network, to keep the space station a safe distance from any encroaching objects, and shuttles, too, when they're flying.

"The collisions are going to be becoming more and more important in the coming decades," Matney said.

Iridium Holdings LLC has a system of 65 active satellites that relay calls from portable phones that are about twice the size of a regular mobile phone. It has more than 300,000 subscribers. The U.S. Department of Defense is one of its largest customers.

The company said the loss of the satellite was causing brief, occasional outages in its service and that it expected to have the problem fixed by Friday.

Iridium also said it expected to replace the lost satellite with one of its eight in-orbit spares within 30 days.

"The Iridium constellation is healthy, and this event is not the result of a failure on the part of Iridium or its technology," the company said in a statement.

Initially launched by Motorola Inc. in the 1990s, Iridium plunged into bankruptcy in 1999. Private investors relaunched service in 2001.

Iridium satellites are unusual because their orbit is so low and they move so fast. Most communications satellites are in much higher orbits and don't move relative to each other, which means collisions are rare.

Iridium Holdings LLC, is owned by New York-based investment firm Greenhill & Co. through a subsidiary, GHL Acquisition Corp., which is listed on the American Stock Exchange. The shares closed Wednesday down 3 cents at $9.28.

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AP science writer Seth Borenstein in Washington and AP technology writer Peter Svensson in New York contributed to this report.

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CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — Two big communications satellites collided in the first-ever crash of its kind in orbit, shooting out a pair of massive debris clouds and posing a slight risk to the inter...
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — Two big communications satellites collided in the first-ever crash of its kind in orbit, shooting out a pair of massive debris clouds and posing a slight risk to the inter...
 
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- Lahonda I'm a Fan of Lahonda 21 fans permalink
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Send up a "Space Swiffer"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 02/13/2009

Lucky this was over a sparsely inhabited area. Gave the caribou quite a start, I am sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 02/12/2009
- thaneb I'm a Fan of thaneb 11 fans permalink
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With the satellites' orbits at almost right angles to each other, the mess will be extremely wide-spread at their 800 km altitude. Bummer. At 570 km altitude HST [Hubble] should be OK like ISS, at least for the near future. As to the satellites @ 800+/- km--look out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 02/12/2009
- Forester I'm a Fan of Forester 92 fans permalink
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Suggested reading.

"The Tragedy of the Commons," Garrett Hardin, Science, 162(1968):­1243-1248.

Same behavior, different commons.

http://dieoff.org/page95.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 02/12/2009

Google: "Snap 9a" if you want to know how an earlier space accident spewed plutonium over the entire surface of the earth. On Discovery Channel a few years ago, there was a program about "space junk". They warned of what could happen if satellites collided. If one projectile hits a satellite at twice the speed of sound, it sends debris hurling toward other satellites at twice the speed of sound, causing a chain-reaction that traps us on the earth (no shuttle missions, no space station), for years to come, and could wipe-out cell phones, computers, and even military satellites. They called it a "cascade". http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/02/06/news/space.php

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 02/12/2009
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 126 fans permalink
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And then we all died.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 02/12/2009
- userw014 I'm a Fan of userw014 2 fans permalink
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Conventional cell phones don't depend on satellites, except for certain GPS functions. Most of the telephone network is terrestrial - fiber optic cables over land and sea.

I'm going to be able to use Microsoft Word as long as I have AC power. I don't think there's any insurmountable problems with the power system that involves satellites.

Launching new satellites might be a problem, but weather satellites in geostationary orbits are thousands of miles out, not hundreds. They're safe from this, for as long as they continue to work. (They have a limited lifetime due to the need to carry reaction fuel for jets to correct their positions from time to time.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 02/12/2009

Chalmers Johnson once gave a quick "risk assessment" regarding satellites. He was dismissive of missiles and lasers, instead preferring a low tech approach. He reasoned that a payload of rocks on the order of a standard dump truck load, ejected into the orbital paths would effectively wipe out the satellite network and bring the modern world to a halt.
No more GPS, no cell phones, no TV. An end to the "smart weapon".
Space debris is such a critical threat to our way of life that the government catalogues each and every piece of orbiting trash.
One day, this planet will be ringed with so much trash, nothing will be able to launch free.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 02/12/2009
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 126 fans permalink
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And, we'll shoot our eyes out, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 02/12/2009
- Forester I'm a Fan of Forester 92 fans permalink
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This is Manifest Destiny.

We will trash outer space just like we trashed our own planet because we have a divine right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 02/12/2009

Earth orbit is not "outer space."
We are too puny of a species to "trash outer space."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 02/12/2009
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 126 fans permalink
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Hey! Don't be so down on us. We'll get the funding sooner or later.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 02/12/2009
- Eres I'm a Fan of Eres 32 fans permalink
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I wonder if Sarah Palin can see the debris from her kitchen window.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 02/12/2009
- RButler I'm a Fan of RButler 56 fans permalink

What else can go wrong?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 02/12/2009

What else did go wrong in space exploration? Or is it just kvetching. Nothing wrong with that. :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 02/12/2009

The Iridium program was a cover for the "star wars" technology developed in the 80's.

This is the beginning of the new cold war.......­..........­..........­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 02/12/2009
- Dystopic I'm a Fan of Dystopic 20 fans permalink
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the iridium project is a satellite phone system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 02/12/2009
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are you sure?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 02/12/2009
- katooom I'm a Fan of katooom 15 fans permalink
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Iridium is a failed SatPhone communications system which cost Motorola billions before they sold it off for pennies on the dollar. Biggest user is US Military. They should de-orbit all these monstrosities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 02/12/2009
- Forester I'm a Fan of Forester 92 fans permalink
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can you hear me know?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 02/12/2009

I worked there when Iridium was "the future of cellular communication" Motorola said.
Global competition however sunk THAT ship. The amount of space debris is staggering.
The number of satellites in orbit is staggering. Once Iran joins the party low earth orbit is going to be one big mess. Thank goodness Bush mandated that we go to Mars instead. I wonder if that deal is still pending. Knowing Obama though he probably round filed it with the rest of GW's comic collection.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 02/12/2009
- elcojonu I'm a Fan of elcojonu 28 fans permalink

The Russian Satellite was ' nonfunctioning and out of control ' ; yeah, right.
What a coincidence it ran into one of our ' communication ' satellites over Siberia.
You don't suppouse the Russians decided to take it out with one of their crafts; Nah, they wouldn't do that, would they ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 02/12/2009
- kndam72 I'm a Fan of kndam72 13 fans permalink
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LOL, and even if they did. the US satellite was over Siberia, wasn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 02/12/2009

Great come back kndam72--:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 02/12/2009
- RedneckDem I'm a Fan of RedneckDem 57 fans permalink
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At some point you would think that it may in all of our best interests to start plucking some of this stuff out of space, but I'm sure they would say its too costly. Maybe after the shuttle drops its payload at the ISS it picks up a minimum of 10 pieces for disposal on its way back to earth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 02/12/2009

"Plucking some of this stuff out of space" is about as easy as taking the cream out of your coffee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 02/12/2009
- BritPatJax I'm a Fan of BritPatJax 14 fans permalink
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Or cleaning up debris at Mount Everest or the North and South Poles? Or even at the bottom of the oceans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 02/12/2009
- Blueline I'm a Fan of Blueline 3 fans permalink
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Like the old tv show "Salvage 1". Where's Andy Griffth when we need him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 02/12/2009
- zaz33 I'm a Fan of zaz33 32 fans permalink


Am I the only one concerned about scientists telling us sh_t can't happen ?

History contradicts the arrogance.

They scare me more than ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 02/12/2009
- j0em0mma I'm a Fan of j0em0mma 36 fans permalink
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Am I the only one scared that people assume scientists are the problem instead of the political institutions that control their funding and their message?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 02/12/2009
- BritPatJax I'm a Fan of BritPatJax 14 fans permalink
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am I the only one who thinks we should mess up 'one planet at a time' and suspend NASA for five years to save a few trillions? I like that we invented the space toilet. Also that thousands of dollars were spent on having a pen write in space. The Russians used a pencil???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 02/12/2009
- BN2112 I'm a Fan of BN2112 55 fans permalink
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No!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 02/12/2009
- BrainDart I'm a Fan of BrainDart 5 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 02/12/2009

This should be PAGE ONE news. Meanwhile, back on Earth, we're still wondering if the right choices were made on "American Idol" and waiting for those Rihanna smackdown pictures to show up in the tabloids.

WAKE UP!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 02/12/2009

Obama ordered the collision to take out some of Russia's capabilities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 02/12/2009
- j0em0mma I'm a Fan of j0em0mma 36 fans permalink
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Cute, but had you read the article you would know that the Russian satellite was already inert...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 02/12/2009

A log is inert but 3000 years ago folks figured out if you take a big one and have 100 people swing it the front door of a fort gets smashed in. They called it a battering ram in honor of male sheep who like to butt heads to impress the lady sheep. A one ton piece of metal at 17,000 MPH is one heck of an "inert" battering ram.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 02/12/2009
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