How The Government Stimulus Plan Will Affect You

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The Associated Press | February 14, 2009 06:14 PM EST | AP

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An examination of how the economic stimulus plan will affect Americans.

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Taxes:

The recovery package has tax breaks for families that send a child to college, purchase a new car, buy a first home or make the ones they own more energy efficient.

Millions of workers can expect to see about $13 extra in their weekly paychecks, starting around June, from a new $400 tax credit to be doled out through the rest of the year. Couples would get up to $800. In 2010, the credit would be about $7.70 a week, if it is spread over the entire year.

The $1,000 child tax credit would be extended to more low-income families that don't make enough money to pay income taxes, and poor families with three or more children will get an expanded Earned Income Tax Credit.

Middle-income and wealthy taxpayers will be spared from paying the Alternative Minimum Tax, which was designed 40 years ago to make sure wealthy taxpayers pay at least some tax, but was never indexed for inflation. Congress fixes it each year, usually in the fall.

First-time homebuyers who purchase their homes before Dec. 1 would be eligible for an $8,000 tax credit, and people who buy new cars before the end of the year can write off the sales taxes.

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Homeowners who add energy-efficient windows, furnaces and air conditioners can get a tax credit to cover 30 percent of the costs, up to a total of $1,500. College students _ or their parents _ are eligible for tax credits of up to $2,500 to help pay tuition and related expenses in 2009 and 2010.

Those receiving unemployment benefits this year wouldn't pay any federal income taxes on the first $2,400 they receive.

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Health insurance:

Many workers who lose their health insurance when they lose their jobs will find it cheaper to keep that coverage while they look for work.

Right now, most people working for medium and large employers can continue their coverage for 18 months under the COBRA program when they lose their job. It's expensive, often over $1,000 a month, because they pay the share of premiums once covered by their employer as well as their own share from the old group plan.

Under the stimulus package, the government will pick up 65 percent of the total cost of that premium for the first nine months.

Lawmakers initially proposed to help workers from small companies, too, who don't generally qualify for COBRA coverage. But that fell through. The idea was to have Washington pay to extend Medicaid to them.

COBRA applies to group plans at companies employing at least 20 people. The subsidies will be offered to those who lost their jobs from Sept. 1 to the end of this year.

Those who were put out of work after September but didn't elect to have COBRA coverage at the time will have 60 days to sign up.

The plan offers $87 billion to help states administer Medicaid. That could slow or reverse some of the steps states have taken to cut the program.

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Infrastructure:

Highways repaved for the first time in decades. Century-old waterlines dug up and replaced with new pipes. Aging bridges, stressed under the weight of today's SUVs, reinforced with fresh steel and concrete.

But the $90 billion is a mere down payment on what's needed to repair and improve the country's physical backbone. And not all economists agree it's an effective way to add jobs in the long term, or stimulate the economy.

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Energy:

Homeowners looking to save energy, makers of solar panels and wind turbines and companies hoping to bring the electric grid into the computer age all stand to reap major benefits.

The package contains more than $42 billion in energy-related investments from tax credits to homeowners to loan guarantees for renewable energy projects and direct government grants for makers of wind turbines and next-generation batteries.

There's a 30 percent tax credit of up to $1,500 for the purchase of a highly efficient residential air conditioners, heat pumps or furnaces. The credit also can be used by homeowners to replace leaky windows or put more insulation into the attic. About $300 million would go for rebates to get people to buy efficient appliances.

The package includes $20 billion aimed at "green" jobs to make wind turbines, solar panels and improve energy efficiency in schools and federal buildings. It includes $6 billion in loan guarantees for renewable energy projects as well as tax breaks or direct grants covering 30 percent of wind and solar energy investments. Another $5 billion is marked to help low-income homeowners make energy improvements.

About $11 billion goes to modernize and expand the nation's electric power grid and $2 billion to spur research into batteries for future electric cars.

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Schools:

A main goal of education spending in the stimulus bill is to help keep teachers on the job.

Nearly 600,000 jobs in elementary and secondary schools could be eliminated by state budget cuts over the next three years, according to a study released this past week by the University of Washington. Fewer teachers means higher class sizes, something that districts are scrambling to prevent.

The stimulus sets up a $54 billion fund to help prevent or restore state budget cuts, of which $39 billion must go toward kindergarten through 12th grade and higher education. In addition, about $8 billion of the fund could be used for other priorities, including modernization and renovation of schools and colleges, though how much is unclear, because Congress decided not to specify a dollar figure.

The Education Department will distribute the money as quickly as it can over the next couple of years.

And it adds $25 billion extra to No Child Left Behind and special education programs, which help pay teacher salaries, among other things.

This money may go out much more slowly; states have five years to spend the dollars, and they have a history of spending them slowly. In fact, states don't spend all the money; they return nearly $100 million to the federal treasury every year.

The stimulus bill also includes more than $4 billion for the Head Start and Early Head Start early education programs and for child care programs.

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National debt:

One thing about the president's $790 billion stimulus package is certain: It will jack up the federal debt.

Whether or not it succeeds in producing jobs and taming the recession, tomorrow's taxpayers will end up footing the bill.

Forecasters expect the 2009 deficit _ for the budget year that began last Oct 1 _ to hit $1.6 trillion including new stimulus and bank-bailout spending. That's about three times last year's shortfall.

The torrents of red ink are being fed by rising federal spending and falling tax revenues from hard-hit businesses and individuals.

The national debt _ the sum of all annual budget deficits _ stands at $10.7 trillion. Or about $36,000 for every man, woman and child in the U.S.

Interest payments alone on the national debt will near $500 billion this year. It's already the fourth-largest federal expenditure, after Medicare-Medicaid, Social Security and defense.

This will affect us all directly for years, as well as our children and possibly grandchildren, in higher taxes and probably reduced government services. It will also force continued government borrowing, increasingly from China, Japan, Britain, Saudi Arabia and other foreign creditors.

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Environment:

The package includes $9.2 billion for environmental projects at the Interior Department and the Environmental Protection Agency. The money would be used to shutter abandoned mines on public lands, to help local governments protect drinking water supplies, and to erect energy-efficient visitor centers at wildlife refuges and national parks.

The Interior Department estimates that its portion of the work would generate about 100,000 jobs over the next two years.

Yet the plan will only make a dent in the backlog of cleanups facing the EPA and the long list of chores at the country's national parks, refuges and other public lands. It would be more like a down payment.

When it comes to national parks, the plan sets aside $735 million for road repairs and maintenance. But that's a fraction of the $9 billion worth of work waiting for funding.

At EPA, the payout is $7.2 billion. The bulk of the money will help local communities and states repair and improve drinking water systems and fund projects that protect bays, rivers and other waterways used as sources of drinking water.

The rest of EPA's cut _ $800 million _ will be used to clean up leaky gasoline storage tanks and the nation's hazardous waste sites.

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Police:

The stimulus bill includes plenty of green for those wearing blue.

The compromise bill doles out more than $3.7 billion for police programs, much of which is set aside for hiring new officers.

The law allocates $2 billion for the Byrne Justice Assistance Grant, a program that has funded drug task forces and things such as prisoner rehabilitation and after-school programs.

An additional $1 billion is set aside to hire local police under the Community Oriented Policing Services program. The program, known as COPS grants, paid the salaries of many local police officers and was a "modest contributor" to the decline in crime in the 1990s, according to a 2005 government oversight report.

Both programs had all been eliminated during the Bush administration.

The bill also includes $225 million for general criminal justice grants for things such as youth mentoring programs, $225 million for Indian tribe law enforcement, $125 million for police in rural areas, $100 million for victims of crimes, $50 million to fight Internet crimes against children and $40 million in grants for law enforcement along the Mexican border.

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Higher Education:

The maximum Pell Grant, which helps the lowest-income students attend college, would increase from $4,731 currently to $5,350 starting July 1 and $5,550 in 2010-2011. That would cover three-quarters of the average cost of a four-year college. An extra 800,000 students, or about 7 million, would now get Pell funding.

The stimulus also increases the tuition tax credit to $2,500 and makes it 40 percent refundable, so families who don't earn enough to pay income tax could still get up to $1,000 in extra tuition help.

Computer expenses will now be an allowable expense for 529 college savings plans.

The final package cut $6 billion the House wanted to spend to kick-start building projects on college campuses. But parts of the $54 billion state stabilization fund _ with $39 billion set aside for education _ can be used for modernizing facilities.

There's also an estimated $15 billion for scientific research, much of which will go to universities. Funding for the National Institutes of Health includes $1.5 billion set aside for university research facilities.

Altogether, the package spends an estimated $32 billion on higher education.

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The Poor:

More than 37 million Americans live in poverty, and the vast majority of them are in line for extra help under the giant stimulus package. Millions more could be kept from slipping into poverty by the economic lifeline.

People who get food stamps _ 30 million and growing _ will get more. People drawing unemployment checks _ nearly 5 million and growing _ would get an extra $25, and keep those checks coming longer. People who get Supplemental Security Income _ 7 million poor Americans who are elderly, blind or disabled _ would get one-time extra payments of $250.

Many low-income Americans also are likely to benefit from a trifecta of tax credits: expansions to the existing Child Tax Credit and Earned Income Tax Credit, and a new refundable tax credit for workers. Taken together, the three credits are expected to keep more than 2 million Americans from falling into poverty, including more than 800,000 children, according to the private Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

The package also includes a $3 billion emergency fund to provide temporary assistance to needy families. In addition, cash-strapped states will get an infusion of $87 billion for Medicaid, the government health program for poor people, and that should help them avoid cutting off benefits to the needy.

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I hope everyone enjoys the extra money in your paycheck....BECAUSE THERE SEALING THE MONEY THAT YOU PAY SOCIAL SECURITY FOR FUTURE SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS. .......THE POOR JUST GOT POORER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 02/23/2009

Where is the government going to get the money to pay for all this? Seems to me if they just print it as usual it will just end up hurting the very people it's designed to help through inflation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 02/16/2009
- Pleneras I'm a Fan of Pleneras 53 fans permalink
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Is the college tax credit for kids or anyone at any age who attends college? I thought the unemployment included no tax deductions? Well I'm glad; after 8 months of unemployed I was just hired by HUD. First time unemployed since I left the service 10 years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 02/16/2009
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This is an impressive list of band-aids for a broken system. But imagine what a truly progressive America, with universal health care, living wages for all, affordable and equal education, and compassion for all people from birth to death, would look like.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 02/15/2009
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I agree in principal with the stimulus package, I don't agree with some points. If you are at or below the poverty level a tax break and a one time stimulus check is appropriate. The creation of jobs with a stimulus check is also appropriate.
I do not think now is the time for anyone who is gainfully employed and does not meet a means test to be getting any tax brake or stimulus check. This would reduced the amout of this bill.

As for the finacial stimulus, it's need to be placed under a microscope. Evrey party involved in this process should be required to make a full disclousure in order to detect possible conflict of interests. The bank barrons are on a roll and are ready to clean the publics coffers and walk away scott free.

The finacial bailouy makes me very scared....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 02/14/2009
- Pleneras I'm a Fan of Pleneras 53 fans permalink
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The official poverty level is unrealistic. As my professor said in 1984, "The minimum wage should of been 10 an hour in the 70s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 02/16/2009
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And, yet again, not a single person here, let alone in government is thinking about those of us who simply can NOT work, even if there were jobs to be had. I am barely middle aged, "relatively* healthy, and yet living with a disability that prevents me from working the 8-10-12 hour days that I actually WANT to work. Even at my prime, when I was much more healthy than I am now, because I live with a disability that *could* lead to illness that *might* make me miss some work I am considered "unemployable" and "a medical liability". And now that I sustain my living on Disability, my income is only expected to go down.

What a freaking travesty....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 02/14/2009
- trumpetman I'm a Fan of trumpetman 5 fans permalink

What do you want the government to do? Right now they are trying to do everything they can so please stop complaining as it is going to be tough for a lot of people. And to the cynics of the bill like the S T U P I D Republicans who believe in the same old tired 19th century ideas, Why do you have complaints? No bill is perfect but all the economic institutions are predicting 2 million to 2.5 million jobs with 2 million saved, I guess since there aren't tax cuts just for corporations you put country last !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 02/14/2009
- trumpetman I'm a Fan of trumpetman 5 fans permalink

I meant estimations

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 02/14/2009
- noneIn2008 I'm a Fan of noneIn2008 27 fans permalink

The lobbyist made out well. Just think if you own a company in Illinois that will help build the $2 billion coal plant that will never work. Your profits will be very nice.
Eat, drink and be merry for now. There is one heck of a hang over down the road. Nothing you can do about it, so enjoy what you can, while you can. Siphon off as much of the spoils as you can because it is going to be very ugly on the other end, but that another day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 02/14/2009
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I for one can hardly wait for my extra $13 per week to buy a new car or maybe a first home or a pair of socks or a happy meal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 02/14/2009
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how many times and threads are you gonna trot out this lame example of a point.?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 02/14/2009

Cherry-picker alert! Can't see the forest for the trees!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 02/14/2009
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Our local PBS show were discussing what the stimulus means for Arizona, and the reporters said when they asked McCain or Kyl, they could not answer because they had not read the bill.
Am I to understand then, that the Rush GOP said NO without ever intending to read the bill?
Wouldn't it have been more beneficial if the Rush GOP actually worked with the Democrats and fighting for the needs of Arizona, of which there are many?
This makes no sense to me and proves that the Rush GOP do not care about Americans, except for the wealthy.
I hope that the voters of my state remember this in 2010 when McCain is up for re-election.
What are we paying these Bush GOP Senators for anyway?
Aren't they supposed to work for us and not against us?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 02/14/2009
- rasit I'm a Fan of rasit 10 fans permalink

RECALL THEM....Why wait till 2010?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 02/14/2009
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You are using reasoning, as in rational thought. It is lost on these people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 02/14/2009
- SammyD I'm a Fan of SammyD 11 fans permalink

I would say No as well without being able to read the bill. You shouldn't sign or vote for anything without adequate time for reading and consideration. Have you read the bill? It passed yesterday and it's only 1000+ pages.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 02/14/2009
- noneIn2008 I'm a Fan of noneIn2008 27 fans permalink

Better yet, vote for the bill without having read it? Not a one of the Senators or Representatives read the bill. It was not published until 11:00 pm. A lot like the war on Iraq, they voted for a bill they never read. Would you ask how could they vote against the war, if they never read the bill?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 02/14/2009
- lj9283 I'm a Fan of lj9283 67 fans permalink
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"Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson suggested as much as $12 billion; an estimate prepared for governors suggested $3 billion to help plug holes in the state budget, and a $4.3 billion boost in Medicaid spending over the next three years among an estimated $11 billion in aid."

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/florida/story/904035.html

Charlie Crist the Republican Governor of Florida made a public appearance yesterday singing the praises of the passage of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Bill after it passed the House, He (and the Mayors who appeared with him) spoke of how the infrastructure spending will directly bring 28,000 jobs to Florida

Guess people in Florida read fast.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 02/14/2009
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Isn't this how we got into the mess, homeowners not reading their mortgage contracts. Sounds to me that the ones who voted against it didn't want to make the same mistake as the ones who got us into this mess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 02/14/2009
- Pleneras I'm a Fan of Pleneras 53 fans permalink
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You still believe that fairy tale? It's because Wall St is a Casino and took original mtgs and hiked the interest rates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 02/16/2009
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I feel that the package "should" include "mental health" benefits (free) for many of the people that post here at Huff Po. It is obvious to me that many need some help. Maybe it is me but I will tell you that I am glad for every dollar I am going to get. It is so much better than what we had under the last administration. I will take it and I am glad that more funds are going for people that have less than I do. No I am not a bleeding heart liberal. Actually I am an independent. I am retired and rather comfortable but can still use $13.00 a week!!! I know that some people need to vent and it is easy to do that here. I wish that people would try to be more positive. Actually, this is not what Obama wanted but it was all Congress could do considering how the Republicans acted over the entire package. Be glad for what you got and quick complaining so much!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 02/14/2009
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Pammy,

I too am retired. I read this very carefully and do not understand how you are going to get that $13.00/week. The article says it will come out of worker's paychecks!! Perhaps you can enlighten me because on our fixed income, $13.00/week amounts to much needed money!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 02/14/2009
- Rosarita I'm a Fan of Rosarita 5 fans permalink

Pammy - not so fast. First of all, if you are a single person, the tax cut is $7 a week. $13 is for a family with children. Secondly, if you're retired you are getting NOTHING because the tax cuts are only for working people. The deductions are going to be taken from their social security taxes, which you don't pay anymore. You are getting NO TAX BREAK. This comes after Obama promised to eliminate taxes for seniors earning less than $50,000 a year. This was repeated in every campaign speech and a lot of seniors voted for him. Now, NOTHING! The person who thinks he's getting $13.00 a week won't unless he has a family. If he's a single taxpayer, it will be $7.00 a week. You get, again, nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 02/14/2009
- lj9283 I'm a Fan of lj9283 67 fans permalink
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"Fourteen-billion has been set aside for stimulus payments including $250 for each social security recipient. "

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29173778/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 02/14/2009
- Rosarita I'm a Fan of Rosarita 5 fans permalink

Yes, lj9283 - a one time check for $250. That's it. No tax cut, as was promised. Nothing else for struggling seniors. Go on Obama's website and on the White House website and see what he actually promised seniors. Never going to happen, but what did happen is that those promises got him the senior vote. Now we get nothing but $250 to help us live the rest of our lives on our fixed incomes. I was one of the biggest supporters of President Obama; told all my senior friends the wonderful things he was promising to do for us. I'm sorry if I sound bitter; I don't like to be lied to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 02/14/2009
- rasit I'm a Fan of rasit 10 fans permalink

No wonder the Republicans didn't Support the bill, there isn't MUCH TAX CUT for the RICH, especially the TOP 1 %......

I'm sure the "middleclass and the poor" in the Republican districts will certainly REMEMBER, who was with them, and WHO WAS NOT.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 02/14/2009
- iluvsam I'm a Fan of iluvsam 17 fans permalink

Good...the top 1% have been raping us dry for years now. It's time we took back some of the wealth that they stole.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 02/14/2009
- rasit I'm a Fan of rasit 10 fans permalink

I am with you 110%;

Donate and campaign for Democrat Senate candidate and let us make the Senate FILIBUSTER PROOF in 2010.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 02/14/2009
- StL I'm a Fan of StL 2 fans permalink

GREAT NEWS....... theatre ticket prices will NOT need to be slashed due to the recesion, stimulus fine print helps out ......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 02/14/2009
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 268 fans permalink
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This is great insight into the feeble minds of the "no party" and their followers. It is clear that some here have never known despair, never seen the bottom. Either that or have no compassion for their fellow man and no concern to the well-being of this nation. 28 Years of "me, me, me" is exactly what got us to the place. You don't need to believe it or agree with it. Fortunately for you, the adults have taken the reigns and your country will be salvaged in spite of your opposition to responsible behavior.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 02/14/2009
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Well put.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 02/14/2009

You're a Dem lemming

n. Any of various small, thickset rodents, especially of the genus Lemmus, inhabiting northern regions and known for periodic mass migrations that sometimes end in drowning.

Washington is in dire need of intellectual, independent thinkers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 02/14/2009
- rasit I'm a Fan of rasit 10 fans permalink

And you sound like a member of a Party, that is intellectually and morally BANKRUPT, called GOP....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 02/14/2009
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Well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 02/14/2009

So how is Harry Reid's $8 Billion dollar high-speed rail from LA to Las Vegas (yes, it's in the bill) going to help salvage the nation or show compassion for our fellow man. I guess when you said the "adults have taken the reigns" you meant it was time for some adult entertainment, eh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 02/14/2009
- iluvsam I'm a Fan of iluvsam 17 fans permalink

It will create jobs. Jobs to make the parts. Jobs to build it. Jobs to run it. Jobs to staff it. Jobs to maintain it.

DUH.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 02/14/2009
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 268 fans permalink
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Unless we have developed robotics that can design and build high speed rail systems, my guess is there will be jobs created and technology flushed out that will help in building further HS rail systems. This sounds like one that will get enough use to make it profitable, which is usually considered good. I understabd Las Vegas has one of the highest foreclosure rates in the country. Maybe a few more tourists to the city will help mitigate that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 02/14/2009
- lj9283 I'm a Fan of lj9283 67 fans permalink
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The bill reads that $8 Billion dollars will be used by the Secretary of Transportation to projects that support the development of intercity high speed rail service. No mention of Las Vegas.

There are two high speed rail projects in the development stage between Las Vegas, and California. There are also high seed rail projects in development in Florida between Orlando and Tampa Bay, Orlando and Miami, and Miami and Tampa. I can imagine that other cities and states that have high speed rail plans will be applying for some of that money as well.

Viable high seed rail systems could help lessen congested traffic on highways, reduce our dependence on foreign oil, and even open employment possibilities.

If I live in Tampa today, there is no way I could commute to a job in Miami, and commuting to a job in Orlando would be a challenge (90 minutes with no traffic, 150 minutes with rush hour traffic). A high speed rail system would change that.

High speed rail systems are a tremendous infrastructure enhancement to the bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 02/14/2009

Aren't most high speed rail developers­/manufactu­rers european and japanese?

How does this help american business owners?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 02/14/2009
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The Stockdale Paradox: “You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end — which you can never afford to lose — with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.”

The Conservative Corollary to the Stockdale Paradox: “You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end — which you can never afford to lose — with the discipline to ignore the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 02/14/2009

So...the main objective of the stimulus is to put people back to work so they could spend right?
So why is alcohol legal and marijuana not?
And why isn't any one who applies on the federal payroll?

Those who know how to manipulate this stimulus will. The rest of us -- clueless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 02/14/2009
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I accept your pessimism as the product of living in a country where you lost faith for the past 8 years. There have been periods of time when our economy was strong, it's citizens productive, and there was a spirit of optimism.

There is a clause in the bill - the first of it's kind in our nation's history - requiring public transparency. Those of us who have been government watchdogs, most through volunteer service, will be monitoring the process closely.

The waste of government money is a non-partisan issue. When discovered, it is used as a club to punish the party in power. I commit to hold every politician and government employee accountable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 02/14/2009

Love watchdogs and whistleblowers. BUT there's limited distribution of the abuse when discovered by these honorable groups. Meaning, the media won't distribute the findings as the Madoff incident and Enron has shown. The internet won't get you the news unless you know where to look or how to ask the question. Even Google "News" limits you to how much news you can get, there is no "next page".

Perhaps that's the new direction in overseeing. Watchdogs and whistleblowers are the new journalists until there's profit to be made or an agenda to be followed then they just become the media.

Find a way to get your browser to tab, "Latest Corruptions" next to "Most Visited" and "Getting Started" and "Latest Headlines".

BTW acknowledging hypocrisy, even my own, is not an act of pessimism. This is still the best nation to call home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 02/14/2009

This is fertile ground for waste and corruption. Federal politicians and staffers are the least capable and most incorrigible people on the planet. But the public masses swoon to any mention of freebies. This is bad, very bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 02/14/2009
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So saith the book of CATO, after the chapter admonishing the defence contractors, not for losing armament in Pakistan and havng it turn up on the blackmarket, but for getting caught.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 02/14/2009
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Quite a phenomenal statement after what we have seen from the Wall Street "purebreds" over the past couple of years ... and their Republican enablers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 02/14/2009

You make my point for me; buy it's not a partisan issue. Barney Frank has been Chairman of the House Financial Services committee for years! They're all inept. Can you say: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, FEMA, DOE, DOD, SEC, DOT, DOJ -- OMG! I'm no fan of the carpet baggers, but even our President is flying his family to Camp David for ---- Sleepovers! It send the wrong message.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 02/14/2009
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