Dems Fed Up With McCain: "Angry Old Defeated Candidate"

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February 15, 2009 12:00 PM

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Democrats are growing increasingly frustrated with the brash political attacks Sen. John McCain has launched against Barack Obama in the weeks since the new president took office. No one expected the Arizona Republican to be a legislative ally for this administration. But it was widely assumed that Obama's overtures to McCain in the weeks after the election would dull some of the hard feelings between the two. Now, they are realizing, it has not.

"He is bitter and really angry," Bob Shrum said of McCain in an interview on Friday. "He is angry at the press, which he thinks is unfair. He is angry at Obama and angry at the voters. He has gone from being an angry old candidate to being an angry old defeated candidate."

Indeed, during the debate over the economic stimulus package it was McCain, as often as Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who spearheaded the opposition. The Arizona Republican denounced the proposal as pure pork on the Senate floor and introduced an alternative measure comprised nearly entirely of tax cuts.

On Sunday, McCain wouldn't let the fight die, even with the legislation through Congress. Appearing on CNN, he described the $787 billion measure as "generational theft" and said that the bill's authors should "start over now and sit down together."

Meanwhile, appearing on ABC's This Week, Sen. Lindsey Graham -- McCain's chief ally in the Senate -- said of the process by which the stimulus was forged: "If this is going to be bipartisanship, the country is screwed."

That two Republicans Senators who consider themselves prudent compromisers would forcefully condemn the president's top legislative priority is noteworthy in and of itself. That it comes after President Obama made overt gestures of reconciliation to both McCain and Graham raises questions as to just how long it will take for this era of post-partisanship to arrive.

Not to mention that, as other observers pointed out, McCain isn't being entirely consistent.

"During the Senate debate, 36 of the Senate Republicans voted for an alternative that would have cut taxes over the next decade by $2.5 trillion, [and] reduced the top marginal race to 25 percent," said the Atlantic's Ron Brownstein on "Meet the Press." "For John McCain -- who voted for that alternative of a $2.5 trillion tax cut over the next decade -- to talk about generational theft, I mean, pot meet kettle."

Democrats are growing increasingly frustrated with the brash political attacks Sen. John McCain has launched against Barack Obama in the weeks since the new president took office. No one expected the ...
Democrats are growing increasingly frustrated with the brash political attacks Sen. John McCain has launched against Barack Obama in the weeks since the new president took office. No one expected the ...
 
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McCain = The Penguin
Obama = Batman

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 02/20/2009
- FrTown I'm a Fan of FrTown 14 fans permalink
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He makes Grandpa Simpson seem rational

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 02/19/2009
- hasheville I'm a Fan of hasheville 15 fans permalink

If McCain and Graham are "irrelevant" and "no one is listening to them" then why have they been allowed to continually lie and distort nightly on shows such as Chris Matthews'? I watch and wonder why they are being given this credibility. The answer is because they are Republican senators, the opposition, the other team. Until we get rid of them, they will be given national access to lie and distort. Unfortunately they are likely to lie and distort their way to re-election. The Republican party needs to be fully discredited or we will continue to be held hostage by them every time they get to vote on anything and every election. Frankly we should break up the Democratic party into several parties, throw in a few libertarians and Greens and govern just fine in this country!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 02/19/2009
- maryyooch I'm a Fan of maryyooch 26 fans permalink

On the contrary, I think these irrelevent rethugs are just digging a deeper hole for themselves. When the majority of Americans are scared to death of missing a few days of work, knowing that they'll have an even harder time to pay the rent (mortgage), the rethugs are showing them just out of touch they really are. Voting against the stimulas bill was a bad move. This is no time for petty politics. It's only when the rethugs have a base that isn't so worried about money, housing, their next meal, etc. that they can get away with this. The only rethugs not caring are the wealthy ones. Maybe this is the silver lining of the dark cloud that hung over us the past 8 years. Maybe this is what will make the rethugs finally sit up and notice that their dear leaders could give a sh*t less about any of them.(except the wealthy, of course!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 02/19/2009
- RadGash I'm a Fan of RadGash 8 fans permalink

Who the hell listen to McCain anyway? And Lindsay Graham?!... PALEEESE! The GOP LOST BIG TIME for a good reason... they are over all nothing but posturing rich farts who have connections... but no clue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 02/19/2009
- Belisarius I'm a Fan of Belisarius 32 fans permalink
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John Mccain is as relevant as last year's newspaper and the same can be said for the republican party.

They don't matter. They are an angry bunch of losers whose president has all but destroyed this country. They stand for nothing. Their party is an empty suit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 AM on 02/19/2009
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Did any of you ever think that McCain was anything else but stupid, stupid, stupid?

He's not. Never was. Never will be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 02/19/2009



If you can't defend your point of view without demeaning adjectives like ' dumb"
"old " etc. etc. than please don't give one .

Perhaps McCain is angry because he realized this latest Federal boondoggle
contains only 17% of programs which will stimulate the economy directly and
80% of programs which will only inflate the economy further down the line
and cause eocnomic misery for us all . I mean - like a high speed train to
Las Vegas from Los Angeles - and millions for the National Endowment for the Arts
And millions for condom instruction. Those are really going to get things going !!

The globalists - bankers - mortgage brokers war mongers or left wing socialists
Doesn't anyone care about the average person out there ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 02/18/2009
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Yes. There are people who care about the average person. They're called Democrats.
That's why we would have had a much better stimulus package if there was no kowtowing to the Republicans who represent only the corporate elete.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 02/18/2009
- rbchilds I'm a Fan of rbchilds 14 fans permalink
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In 2005 Senator Hegley from NB along with McCain sponsored a referendum to oversee FM&FM. NO DEMOCRAT IN THE SENATE VOTED FOR THE REFERENDUM. Want to place political blame, look within both parties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 02/18/2009
- kjwhite I'm a Fan of kjwhite 38 fans permalink
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I am mystified regarding the rampant amnesia among the republicans of late. It seems none of them can recall the past 8 years, that mad whirl of a time when republicans controlled everything and GOT/DID everything they wanted, ethical or not. We are all living with the end result of the republicans "turn at bat", and now they all want to back away, point their fingers and say, Well, just look at this mess, will ya? The democrats have only been in office 3 weeks and look, the economy is about to collapse!!! (all conveniently forgetting how it got that way in the first place)

The bottom line is George Bush, his pals, his Daddy's pals and a LOT of wealthy republicans got a whole LOT wealthier during the Bush years, or shall we call them the REPUBLICAN years, all at OUR expense, and made a clean getaway afterward. As usual, democrats have to step in and clean up the mess republicans leave behind. That they have the nerve to complain about ANYTHING astounds me. Were the republican leaders paying attention to what the voters said LOUD AND CLEAR this election? I think not. They are all in denial about what the voters want, John McCain especially.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 02/18/2009
- Oldchef I'm a Fan of Oldchef 2 fans permalink

There is no high speed train planned from L.A. to Las Vegas. Check your facts, unlike your boy Rush. Money for sex education and venereal disease prevention could save a great deal of money in the near future paying for unwed mothers and for treatment of venereal disease. I am in total agreement that money to the bankers and mortgage brokers who put us in the financial fix we're in is a waste of our tax money. We should immediately reverse the Bush tax cuts. Did you like the 1950s? Millionaires under Ike paid more than twice today's tax rate and the country was prosperous. McCain lost because he didn't have any good ideas. Most of us were waking up and realizing that we had been systematically screwed by the Bushies. To hear more of the same crap from McCain was not attractive to most of us voters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 02/19/2009
- maryyooch I'm a Fan of maryyooch 26 fans permalink

And NEA, commuter rail, etc, doesn't create jobs and save money for consumers in the future?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 02/19/2009
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John McCain is for John McCain first and foremost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 02/18/2009

no surprises here. this is exactly what scared me most about mccain. he is one angry, short dude who willingly sold out to the GOP in more ways than i care to even remember.
i believe that republicans of his ilk are our greatest national threat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 02/18/2009

Listen, I think what really showed the country what kind of guy John McCain is the selection of Sarah Palin for the ticket. All that baloney about "Country First". He was willing to risk leaving the country in the hands of a total nitwit in order to, hopefully, win the office. Did he think people were stupid???? And apparently he was right because 58 million people voted for them. There are 58 million stupid people in the United States. On the sub way next to you, across the counter in the drug store.....­everywhere­.....Scary

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 02/18/2009
- maryyooch I'm a Fan of maryyooch 26 fans permalink

Well, you could argue that 58 million voted for them. Go to blackboxvoting.com (or it could be .org)
They got too many votes illegally. Diebold just changed their name in some states and districts. But, they still are the giant rethug backers who rigged all the voting machines.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 02/19/2009
- Fingerbo I'm a Fan of Fingerbo 5 fans permalink

Why on earth would anyone be surprised that McCain would be a bitter, angry, obstructionist sore loser? Why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 02/18/2009

All stoopid people to one side of the country and everyone else to other, somehow I think the Liberal side will do much better.

I'm waiting for the day when the conservative states ask for their walking papers, there will be no war this time, we'll just let you leave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 02/18/2009
- bobncar I'm a Fan of bobncar 3 fans permalink

Support the troops but don't raise my taxes!!!! phlfffft

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 02/18/2009
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To paraphrase:

Generational theft is perfectly acceptable if you are giving money to the top 2% and thier cronies - John Sidney McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 02/18/2009
- atlantajoe I'm a Fan of atlantajoe 8 fans permalink

You can say he lost but he is correct about genrational theft. The dems have given the future generations Social security, medicare/medicaid and welfare, now they are spending what will be trillions more on bad policy. I am glad I will be able to leave my son with some money so he does not have to live with the masses. When the middle class is gone it is best to be in the upper and not the lower.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 02/18/2009
- Kristen777 I'm a Fan of Kristen777 41 fans permalink
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Well said. So steal, pillage and plunder all you can, while you can. Take care of you and your own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 02/18/2009

Yes, those are good Christian values, right? "I've got mine, Jack".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 02/18/2009
- Aimleft I'm a Fan of Aimleft 8 fans permalink

You make me sick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 02/18/2009
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You disgust me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 02/18/2009
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You say Social Security, MediCare and MedicAid, and welfare as though they are bad things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 02/18/2009
- jweider I'm a Fan of jweider 30 fans permalink
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I seem to remember that McCain was the one who suspended his campaign to make sure Wall Street got it's $700 billion bailout.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 02/18/2009

...and when he screw.ed THAT up, it went up to $832B. Thanks, John

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 02/18/2009
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