White House Concerned About Pay Caps, Could Change Stimulus

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February 15, 2009 10:21 AM

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The Obama administration acknowledged on Sunday that its top economic officials had expressed concerns to Congress that the sharp restrictions on executive compensation included in the stimulus package could be counterproductive. Moreover, they did not rule out the possibility that the president could loosen the restrictions.

In an appearance on Fox News Sunday, chief strategist Axelrod said that the President and Congress shared the same "outrage" over the "spectacle of gaudy bonuses for executives at firms that are getting extraordinary assistance from American taxpayers." But he also acknowledged "concerns" that the restrictions in the stimulus went too far. Critics of restrictions believe they will encourage top-officials to leave their companies or persuade banks to not participate in the TARP program.

"Well, obviously, Secretary Geithner and Mr. Summers had concerns about that," said Axelrod. "And they expressed those concerns. But the concerns are at the margins and the goal is one we share."

The president has said he favors capping compensation. But in the final version $787 billion package, Congress also put restrictions on the size of bonuses that bank executives could receive, and expanded the pool of impacted companies beyond what President Obama and Treasury Secretary Geithner announced in early February.

Here is the transcript:

CHRIS WALLACE: It now turns out that buried in the economic stimulus plan that was passed this week by Congress is a measure that would sharply restrict bonuses for top earners on Wall Street. The White House is reportedly worried that this could result in a brain drain from the firms. That some firms may pay the money back more quickly than they responsibly should so they don't have those restrictions. Is the white house going to try to soften that set of restrictions on pay?


AXELROD: Let me say the President's been very clear that he shares the outrage that most Americans feel about the spectacle of gaudy bonuses for executives at firms that are getting extraordinary assistance from American taxpayers. It's not right. It shouldn't move forward. He's announced his own guidelines for how we should restrict that. In some ways they're tougher than the ones that the Senate passed. They have a hard cap, for example, on compensation. And in other ways they differ. So we're going to work with them... with Senate and the House -- to come up with an appropriate approach to this.

WALLACE: You're saying what was passed by the Congress in the economic stimulus bill is not the last word.

AXELROD: I'm saying we all have the same goal. We all have the same sentiment and we want to do something that's workable and we'll work with them to get to that point.

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WALLACE: And do you worry that what they've passed in the economic stimulus could be counterproductive?

AXELROD: Well, obviously, Secretary Geithner and Mr. Summers had concerns about that. And they expressed those concerns. But the concerns are at the margins and the goal is one we share.

UPDATE: Looks like Congress isn't too willing to revise the stimulus. As picked up by Think Progress, Republican Sen. Richard Shelby and Democratic Rep. Barney Frank -- appearing on Face the Nation -- both backed the executive pay caps in the bill.

SCHIEFFER: So, even though you voted against this bill, you sound like you're very much for this provision.

SHELBY: I -- I am. I think we need that. [...]

FRANK: Let me be very clear. Mr. Gibbs may not like it, but it's gonna be enforced. ... This is not an option. This is not, frankly, the Bush administration where they're going to issue a signing statement and refuse to enforce it.

The Obama administration acknowledged on Sunday that its top economic officials had expressed concerns to Congress that the sharp restrictions on executive compensation included in the stimulus packag...
The Obama administration acknowledged on Sunday that its top economic officials had expressed concerns to Congress that the sharp restrictions on executive compensation included in the stimulus packag...
 
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- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 72 fans permalink

It is time to start CLAWING back the tax breaks that these people had over the last 8 years....R­acketeers just like Charles Keating and Kenny Lay....onl­y this time we want RESULTS...­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 02/23/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 72 fans permalink

Counter productive­....I am rolling on the floor laughing mao....How could paying these RACKETEERS be counter productiiv­e....Who has been counter productive for the last 30 years.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 02/23/2009

The basis of the argument for raising these caps or restrictions sounds a bit counter intuitive to me. Why would these institutions be worried about losing the "brains" that "drained" them? Where are they going to go? Are there that many financial concerns hiring? If they're just planning to go to Aruba and enjoying all the money they've embezzled from the American taxpayers then I'm sure there are some bright and as yet uncorrupted economics majors out there who'd love to have a chance at the jobs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 02/20/2009

FRANK: Let me be very clear. Mr. Gibbs may not like it, but it’s gonna be enforced. … This is not an option. This is not, frankly, the Bush administration where they’re going to issue a signing statement and refuse to enforce it.

Why is HuffPo burying this story? This should be on the front page. Can we trust the Obama administration to enforce the law or not?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 02/16/2009

Did anyone see on "Morning Joe" this morning that they mistakenly called David Axelrod Obama's chief of staff complete with caption calling him the same thing? MSNBC of all the networks? What was even crazier was that none of the host realized it either or, they didn't care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 02/16/2009
- danusgram I'm a Fan of danusgram 15 fans permalink
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Who cares if they want to leave their jobs there are plenty of unemployed that would be more than happy to sit at their desks and run the business

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 02/16/2009
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Probably better!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 02/16/2009
- BlueDog1 I'm a Fan of BlueDog1 10 fans permalink

I agree we don't need it, fire all (ALL) these MBA's no parachute and hire new mngt from England with no fringe benefits just like the rest of us. We accomplish the same thing, we go off shore with the jobs, cut pay , no benefits for the new dwibs and we have cut over head......­......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 02/16/2009
- katekid I'm a Fan of katekid 3 fans permalink

Huh?
How about blacklisting this thieving, inept lot from all finance related jobs?
Maybe even from the fast food industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 02/16/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 255 fans permalink

Excuse me? CAPS on bonuses?

My Bro-in-law worked for a company that did bonuses. If the company made money above its yearly goal, everyone got bonuses.

If the company didn't surpass its goal, no bonuses. A BONUS IS A REWARD FOR EXCEEDING GOALS.

These greedy morons ran their companies into the ground. They don't deserve bonuses. If it were up to me, I'd fire every d@mned one of them. Filing for unemployment might be a good learning experience!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 02/16/2009
- Bubba Gump I'm a Fan of Bubba Gump 200 fans permalink
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Amen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 AM on 02/16/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 72 fans permalink

Golden Parachutes, Golden Pensions, Golden Apartments in Manhattan, Golden Secretaries, Golden Jets......­and all of it is tax deductible­...

AUDIT THEM ALL, personal taxes and business taxes.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 02/23/2009

If they go hard core on the restrictions, then we will have third world country status. This must be done judiciously and not turned into another government controlled entity or we will have poverty for all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 02/15/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 255 fans permalink

Executives who did this bad a job would -- if they held any other position -- be fired and replaced.

I don't see why they're being kept on, much less given bonuses.

BONUSES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A REWARD FOR BUSINESS SUCCESS, REMEMBER?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 02/16/2009
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 38 fans permalink

I think the main point here is that even though they are receiving bailout money, the government is overstepping its bounds here.

You're about to receive an extra $13 a week because of this stimulus package. How about the government comes to your house and tells you how to spend your money?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 02/16/2009
- JoeBlough I'm a Fan of JoeBlough 60 fans permalink
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The restrictions only apply to the screw-ups who are now begging for taxpayer money to bail them out. I don't see where they deserve even $500K.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 02/16/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 72 fans permalink

Heck they could do it for free and we would only audit for 3 years instead of 5 years.of taxes.. After all they would not commit fraud on their income tax returns or would they,,,,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 02/23/2009

move to Zimbabwe and then talk about 3rd world in the US

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 02/16/2009

"The Obama administration acknowledged on Sunday that its top economic officials had expressed concerns to Congress that the sharp restrictions on executive compensation included in the stimulus package could be counterpro­ductive."

"The Obama administration" = Tim Geithner and Larry Summers

I didn't really hear President Obama voice those concerns. Instead, I feel that the Congress has done him a favor by legislating the caps. Now, he can tell Geithner and Summers that the law has to be followed and he won't have to referee between Treasury and Congress anymore.

If the financial institutions don't like it, they shouldn't be taking government money.

Also, can anyone tell me why AIG (who has pretty much been nationalized) was eligible for TARP? Last I heard they only paid the US 1% in tax revenue since they had "geographically relocated"? Maybe, Grand Cayman should have been bailing them out instead of the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 02/15/2009
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 38 fans permalink

As a result of this stimulus, you'll be getting an extra $13 a week. How about the government comes to your house and tells you how to budget? If you don't like it, you shouldn't be taking the money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 02/16/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 72 fans permalink

I am not the one spending the money on Mistresses, fast cars and jets that are all tax deductible­....GIVE ME A BREAK, It costs me 6 grand to commute to work every day and do I get to write that off???....­It costs thousand for children to be cared for in this country, in France EVERY CHILD gets FREE PRESCHOOL and HealthCare and Dental Care and the parents get 6 weeks of vacation..­. WHERE DID WE GO WRONG?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 02/23/2009
- socalgal59 I'm a Fan of socalgal59 13 fans permalink

Axelrod makes the allegations that the caps are counterproductive, but produces no evidence to substantiate his allegations.

Gee, isn't this a typical republican ploy: make outrageous allegations, but never provide the evidence to substantiate the allegations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 02/15/2009
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Get used to it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 02/16/2009

You can't cap salaries in a free market- period. What is next - capping Oprah and Speilbergs pay- Capping Clinton and Al Gore so they can't amass $100 million fortunes. Tiger Woods, A-Rod Kobe-etc. etc. Even Turbo Timmy Geithner took $500K in a so-long from the FED Resevere. tHIS IS how THE GAME IS PLAYED. The story here is not ObamaTeam Flip-Flop (all that should be enough) but the resistance FROM congress to re-do a Sarbanes Oxley type of regulation that would control excesses- and put specific regulation over PENSION funds and 401 and IRA acounts. DO NOT let wall street play with PUBLIC money. Let them play with their investors money- and the market will determine the bonus moneis. The stock market is Vegas- and some greedy men broke the bank- at the same time housing was over-capacity and credit way over extended. Control the damage and insulate the investments of te non-gamblers

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 02/15/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 255 fans permalink

In a free market, the BONUS is the reward for a successful business that has made a PROFIT.

They shouldn't have to legislate CAPS -- there should be no bonuses whatsoever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 02/16/2009

last time i checked "free market" didn't include getting billions in taxpayer $$, socialize losses & privatize profits is a f u c k i n g scam & "insulating investments" is not anybody's job under the "free market" so if we're going to f the "free market" then do what's best for WORKING PEOPLE, not just the rich minority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 02/16/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 72 fans permalink

Hey Medicated take some more drugs and cool your jets... The FREE MARKET is a Fairy Tale, just like the Tooth Fairy and Cinderella­....

This is not the way the game has always been played, we had much more equality in the 50s and 60s when the tax rates were 90%,,,,TPM had the information that the top 400 were making 1 million EVERY WORKING DAY in 2006 and paying 17% in taxes....a­fter all their deductions­.....what a wonderful world

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 02/23/2009
- wordvarc I'm a Fan of wordvarc 31 fans permalink

It's a symbolic issue, easy to work around, and does not limit how they spend their new bank and company pork...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 02/15/2009
- chrish I'm a Fan of chrish 14 fans permalink
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"..."conce­rns" that the restrictions in the stimulus went too far. Critics of restrictions believe they will encourage top-officials to leave their companies or persuade banks to not participate in the TARP program."

So what's the down-side? Do these greedy jerks really think there are other jobs out there for them, other companies lining up to be run into the ground?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 02/15/2009
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