How We'll Get To Universal Health Care: Patching The Tattered Blanket

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First Posted: 02-18-09 12:10 PM   |   Updated: 03-21-09 05:12 AM

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When President Obama put his signature to the stimulus package Tuesday, he also signed into law a number of health care reforms that were the result of an intense but low-profile struggle.

One camp had pushed to expand access by allowing some unemployed to qualify for Medicaid, by expanding the length of time people 55 and over could qualify for COBRA coverage, and by subsidizing COBRA for some recipients. Only the final reform made it in.

Separate sections of the bill dedicated billions of dollars to compare the cost-effectiveness of various treatments, to modernize health care records by making them electronic, and to establish a wellness and prevention fund. The investments are expensive up front, but aimed at reducing long-term costs.

Another effort underway -- fought by pharmacists and drug makers - would have banned drug companies from paying health care providers to market specific drugs. A compromise allows drug companies to pay providers a "reasonable" fee, but they can only advertise drugs that a patient is already being prescribed. Elsewhere in the bill, billions were allocated for community health centers.

Tussling over such minutiae is what keeps lobbyists in business; it's what keeps staffers at work till the early morning hours and what makes the public's eyes glaze over.

Boring as it might be, it's also the heart of the struggle that will lead to universal health care in America.

While the left and the right press for radical changes to the current health care system -- single payer; free market -- interviews with top Democrats in Congress indicate the plan is slowly, incrementally to expand coverage by tweaking the current system. The goal: to patch every hole and create a blanket of universal coverage that might not look pretty, but will at least keep everybody warm. From there, it's a matter of rounding up the stragglers and getting them in bed, whether by mandate or incentive.

The skirmish within the stimulus is just the beginning. President Obama has made clear he plans to expand the fight for health care reform deep in the pages of upcoming omnibus budget negotiations.

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"The president has already put a national health care package into his budget," Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.) said in a speech Monday night, citing a recent conversation with Obama. "That gives us a procedural and substantive leg up."

Dingell's optimism notwithstanding, advocates of single-payer health care are skeptical of the incremental approach. Chief among them, Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), chairman of the Judiciary Committee, recently introduced the vessel that single-payer partisans hope will carry them to the promised land of universal health care. But his bill, which has more than 90 cosponsors, faces the same pragmatic challenge confronted by advocates of a free-market system. What about the people already covered by their employers, by Medicare or by Medicaid? What happens to them during the transition?

That's where the pragmatists enter. "You just can't sink the ship. You have to steer it around the corner," says Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.).

"You're not going to dismantle the employer-based system," says Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.). "There are millions of people who rely on that and it works well for them. We have Medicare and it works well for millions. So I think a lot of the structures are out there. It's a question of manipulating them in a way that will reach and serve additional people."

Indeed, while roughly 50 million people will go uninsured during the course of 2009, many more millions are insured by the current system, broken as it is. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 160 million people are covered through employers. Another 44 million are enrolled in Medicare. Some 53 million were enrolled in Medicaid and S-CHIP -- the State Children's Health Insurance Program -- in 2007. A bill signed by Obama in January expanded S-CHIP to an additional four million people. Nine million are eligible for TRICARE, which covers current members of the armed forces, military retirees, along with their families and survivors. Eight million civilian employees are covered through the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program (FHBP) -- a system that is often proposed as the model for the public-plan option.

"I don't know that you would use the exact federal plan, but that's a model. That's one step that you can do to get there, and then you start helping people who can't afford and you expand to kids maybe using something else," says Klobuchar. "You're just not going to be able to tear it apart in one day. Some of it will take congressional action, but some of it can be done with congressional direction and then allowing the administration to set some of it."

Health care advocates, however, are clamoring for action on comprehensive care this year and politicians who have said it might take longer have taken a beating. "Everybody would like to have it tomorrow," says House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.), who received one such beating from reformers recently for publicly embracing the incremental approach. "Universal access to health care is something that must be accomplished. And in order for us to get there, there are certain building blocks that have got to be part of it...but I believe we can't just destroy what we have."

Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), as chairman of the finance committee, will play a crucial role in the drive to universal coverage. He's a strong backer of the incremental approach.

"It's probably going to include a uniquely American combination of public and private coverage," Baucus says of the universal system the nation will eventually develop. "I don't know if it'll be 50/50 or not, but it'll be a balance between public and private. That could come through an expansion of Medicare, of Medicaid, even children's health insurance. On the other hand, it'll take a big expansion of the private market, too."

In surprising ways, then, the American path to universal coverage will resemble that already taken by every other industrialized nation.

Dr. Atul Gawande, in a recent New Yorker article, "Getting There From Here," makes the case that in every nation with universal coverage, the system was built patchwork-style on top of what already happened to be there.

"Nearly all [universal health care systems] have been popular and successful. But each has taken a drastically different form, and the reason has rarely been ideology. Rather, each country has built on its own history, however imperfect, unusual, and untidy," Gawande writes.

Gawande chronicles the history of each nation's path to universal coverage.

No example is more striking than that of Great Britain, which has the most socialized health system in the industrialized world. Established on July 5, 1948, the National Health Service owns the vast majority of the country's hospitals, blood banks, and ambulance operations, employs most specialist physicians as salaried government workers, and has made medical care available to every resident for free. The system is so thoroughly government-controlled that, across the Atlantic, we imagine it had to have been imposed by fiat, by the coercion of ideological planners bending the system to their will.


But look at the news report in the Times of London on July 6, 1948, headlined "FIRST DAY OF HEALTH SERVICE." You might expect descriptions of bureaucratic shock troops walking into hospitals, insurance-company executives and doctors protesting in the streets, patients standing outside chemist shops worrying about whether they can get their prescriptions filled. Instead, there was only a four-paragraph notice between an item on the King and Queen's return from a holiday in Scotland and one on currency problems in Germany.

The beginning of the new national health service "was taking place smoothly," the report said. No major problems were noted by the 2,751 hospitals involved or by patients arriving to see their family doctors. Ninety per cent of the British Medical Association's members signed up with the program voluntarily--and found that they had a larger and steadier income by doing so. The greatest difficulty, it turned out, was the unexpected pent-up demand for everything from basic dental care to pediatric visits for hundreds of thousands of people who had been going without.

The program proved successful and lasting, historians say, precisely because it was not the result of an ideologue's master plan. Instead, the N.H.S. was a pragmatic outgrowth of circumstances peculiar to Britain immediately after the Second World War. The single most important moment that determined what Britain's health-care system would look like was not any policymaker's meeting in 1945 but the country's declaration of war on Germany, on September 3, 1939.

The war severely damaged private hospitals, Gawande writes, and the government stepped in to pay for the health care of people hurt or displaced by bombings.

By 1945, when the National Health Service was proposed, it had become evident that a national system of health coverage was not only necessary but also largely already in place--with nationally run hospitals, salaried doctors, and free care for everyone. So, while the ideal of universal coverage was spurred by...horror stories, the particular system that emerged in Britain was not the product of socialist ideology or a deliberate policy process in which all the theoretical options were weighed. It was, instead, an almost conservative creation: a program that built on a tested, practical means of providing adequate health care for everyone, while protecting the existing services that people depended upon every day. No other major country has adopted the British system--not because it didn't work but because other countries came to universalize health care under entirely different circumstances.

(Here's the rest of Gawande's historical recap, well worth a read.)

Single-payer advocates acknowledge that a new system won't come overnight. "There's no question that when America transitions to a universal single-payer system, as I think we're going to have to, the transition will take a few years. That's anticipated," says Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), a cosponsor of Conyers' bill.

"It's not all instant," says Conyers. "We have long periods of phase-in and are developing bills to cover the increased number of doctors, nurses, hospitals and clinics that would be required."

But the healthcare system, complex and unwieldy as it is, doesn't handle even small changes well, let alone major ones.

Gawande highlights the government's stumbling attempt to create a new prescription drug program.

On January 1, 2006, the program went into effect nationwide. The result was chaos. There had been little realistic consideration of how millions of elderly people with cognitive difficulties, chronic illness, or limited English would manage to select the right plan for themselves. Even the savviest struggled to figure out how to navigate the choices: insurance companies offered 1,429 prescription-drug plans across the country. People arrived at their pharmacy only to discover that they needed an insurance card that hadn't come, or that they hadn't received pre-authorization for their drugs, or had switched to a plan that didn't cover the drugs they took. Tens of thousands were unable to get their prescriptions filled, many for essential drugs like insulin, inhalers, and blood-pressure medications. The result was a public-health crisis in thirty-seven states, which had to provide emergency pharmacy payments for the frail. We will never know how many were harmed, but it is likely that the program killed people.

Treading lightly and slowly closing the gaps in coverage is important, say Democratic leaders, but won't in itself bring about universal coverage.

The crucial leap that must be made, say Democrats, is the creation of a public plan that can compete with private plans, driving down costs and giving the uninsured another option.

"It's the ability of people to buy into a public plan and their ability to be able to have more portability," Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) says is the most important step. "What we'll have to do, hopefully with the leadership of Senator Kennedy, is begin to lower the boom and bust up some of the silos of profit that are a big hindrance to us getting to a single-payer system."

Dodd, as Kennedy's best friend in the Senate and a senior member of the health committee, will be a major player in the push forward. "There's probably going to be a time before you get universality," he says. "We won't get there, obviously, with just passage of a bill. It'll take time for this to kind of meld in and work."

Before withdrawing his name from consideration for Health and Human Services secretary over unpaid taxes, Tom Daschle had advocated such an incremental approach, relying on a health care board to monitor progress and oversee the melding system.

Dodd thinks the approach will work. "Once you've established the major points of this -- the public-private feature -- I think then, once you get over those hurdles, whether you go with an individual mandate or you go with an attractive financial opportunity for people" -- subsidies to encourage obtaining coverage -- "then I think the board can manage this."

Asked to clarify what the greatest hurdle would be, he says, "The public option. But if you talk about it in terms of a partnership, then I think it becomes more acceptable."

The public option is "on the table," says Baucus. "Forty-seven million Americans don't have health insurance. Twenty-five million Americans are underinsured. So there's plenty of opportunity for public and private plans."

Getting everybody covered, however, won't solve the problem, Democrats insist.

"If anybody thinks that if we gave everybody a card tomorrow, the problem will be solved, they're sorely mistaken," says Sen. Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont. "Having the ability to get health care doesn't mean you have the capability to get it. If you're a working-class person making thirty thousand a year, the odds are you'll have a hard time even finding a doctor to go to."

Sanders, along with Majority Whip Clyburn in the House, hopes to close the access gap by quadrupling funding for existing community health care centers.

The Federally Qualified Health Center program was launched more than forty years ago by legislation sponsored by Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.). They were expanded by President Bush; President Obama, as a Senator, cosponsored legislation to grow them further. They currently serve 18 million Americans in rural and inner-city areas, accepting private insurance or government plans and charging patients on a sliding scale based on payment.

Sanders says that in rural Vermont, the centers are not the dusty, crowded clinics people think of, but are quality establishments used by patients of all financial backgrounds simply because there are no other options.

Currently, the 1,100 centers are funded by a $2 billion federal investment: $125 per patient. Sanders and Clyburn want to see funding expanded to $8.3 billion to fund 4,800 centers.

"My guess is, they ain't gonna pass a national health care system in Washington, D.C. We'll have to lead by example," says Sanders.

For Clyburn, it's the job of Congress to create all the blocks needed to construct a universal system, but let health care policy experts piece them together.

"Getting there is more important than what kind of name you give the end product," says Clyburn. "How Medicaid and these other programs fit in [to universal coverage], it's up to the experts to figure out."

The incremental approach has the added benefit that it won't cost the entire bank account of political capital -- which is currently needed to pay for stimulus bills, foreclosure relief, financial-system bailouts and other economic issues. And the account had already been depleted by Daschle's withdrawal.

"Everybody, twelve months ago, we were all saying that health care is the issue. That's the one we want to work on," says Clyburn, still sore from the beating he took for publicly supporting the go-slow approach. "Now, six months ago, no, no, no, it's the energy crisis. We've got to solve this one; we've got to put health care on the back burner... By the time we go to the elections, Wall Street was failing, the banks were going south, the markets were going crazy. The realities dictate that we've got to do first things first. The first thing we've got to do now is get people back to work."

Health care advocates hope they can slide their issue into that economic folder. Clyburn and Sanders succeeded in getting much of what they want for health centers -- $2 billion extra -- into the stimulus bill signed Tuesday.

The biggest step, the public option, is part of Obama's overall plan, though it's unknown if he'll make it part of the budget battle. Whenever it comes up, the GOP will fiercely oppose it, Republican aides say, aware that it's a major move toward universal coverage and represents an increasing federal role in health care.

For Dodd, the fight to make a public plan available will be waged on an ideological battlefield. With the public increasingly skeptical of free market solutions, Democrats have the advantage. But the GOP, Dodd says, will do whatever it can to stop it.

"It kind of goes back to the point where you've been against it so long, even the mention of the words brings out a Pavlovian response," he says.

When President Obama put his signature to the stimulus package Tuesday, he also signed into law a number of health care reforms that were the result of an intense but low-profile struggle. One camp ...
When President Obama put his signature to the stimulus package Tuesday, he also signed into law a number of health care reforms that were the result of an intense but low-profile struggle. One camp ...
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- jadeba I'm a Fan of jadeba 8 fans permalink

Insurance companies need a wake up call. If we can do nothing else, how about offering Medicaid (Medicare?) to everyone who wants it. You could opt for government control of your health care. I guarantee, we be switching in about 2 seconds. We are pretty healthy, pay 800.oo per month (5,000 deductable, 80/20 plan). My friend has Medicare (or Medicaid, sorry, don't know the difference). Her husband has Alzheimer's - for the two of them, she pays 400.00/month and, I believe, has no deductable or a very small one. Insurance companies would lose customers and then either they would have to fall in line or fail. The Cons are all about competition and free markets - problem, the current system works so well for all insurance companies they won't change. There is no competition, just more of the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 02/26/2009
- bdl0715 I'm a Fan of bdl0715 8 fans permalink

Medicare is for the retired and disabled. You pay into Medicare all your working life.

Medicaid is for the poor, people of any age, that are usually not working. Generally, Medicaid is only available for families with children, that are on welfare of some sort. It can also be offered if you are on SSI, which is an indigent disablity program for people that have not paid into the Medicare system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 02/26/2009

The insurance industry owns and manages the 'health care industry' (shouldn't that be an oxymoron?) in this country. They decided who and what gets treated, and what they will or will not pay for. Just like the NRA, insurance lobbyists have a stranglehold on the politicians in Washington. Until the insurance industry is as insolvent as the banks, nothing will change. As long as they rake in the money, while paying little or nothing in the way of benefits, we are stuck the system we have. The people need to speak up, and overwhelm the ignorant, misleading, deceptive, and fear-mongering tactics of the insurance lobby and their right-wing lackeys. They will always raise the decibel level up a notch if they feel remotely threatened. We need universal health care as a right for all citizens!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 02/19/2009
- Ergon I'm a Fan of Ergon 73 fans permalink
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Since Congress (and I include Dems as well) are so much in the pockets of the Insurance industry I very much doubt we'll ever have Universal Health Care. I mean, let's try to appoint Tom Caschle as Health Secy? Please. And why not Howard Dean?
The president is in Ottawa Canada today. He should perhaps visit a Canadian hospital for an example of a system where basic heath care is a universal right instead of asking the Canadians to support his invasion of Afghanistan.
Pehaps instead of bailing out Wall Street and defense contractors, we should be investing in infrastructure like thousands of new government hospitals and paying tuition for a new generation of medical students.
Just asking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 02/19/2009
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The non system in the U.S. is a hopeless hodgepodge which cannot be resuscitated.
We pay twice as much as other countries with far superior health statistics. They have national health care. We don’t.
Health care is a right and it should be provided by the government.
National Health Care now!
In designing a new system, quality should be the guiding precept. Illness and injury represent system failures. It is cheaper to design quality in than to pay for system failures. Preventive medicine and health education in homes, schools, clinics, businesses, and media, should receive precedence over treatment.
In treatment, Medicare is an abject failure and should be discarded. The VA offers a superior model. Costs, and copays, are kept low through preventive medicine, efficient management, streamlined processes, electronic records, and bidding for facilities, supplies, equipment, and pharmaceuticals.
We should build on the VA, expanding eligibility, adding staff, and extending hours. Then merge in public clinics and public hospitals. Finally buy and build additional facilities.
“ER’s” have effectively been nationalized by regulations requiring treatment of all. Formalize this nationalization now. Give Pharmacists prescriptive privilege now. Nationalize from the bottom up, primary care first, then specialized care and hospitals.
The transition could be seamless.
Expel insurance, pharmaceutical firms, and big business from the actual provision of health care. Restrict businesses and pharmaceutical firms to bidding competitively for the provision of drugs, supplies, and equipment.
The economy benefits. Business is freed from health insurance premiums. Healthy workers are more productive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 AM on 02/19/2009
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Welcome to the age of the super human middle aged and youthful Charles Atlases. You can forget about the disabled and elderly from what I'm hearing

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 02/18/2009

SOC SEC AND MEDICARE CAN BE SAVED--HERE'S WHY YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT IT

HERE is LOCKBOX LAW and the fix our SENIOR COLA law which will ensure that our MEDICARE gets saved without loss of services and without raising of premiums. But the PUBLIC must be active to the lobby for it to pass. This keeps POLITICIANS from "raiding" the TRUST. This puts Congress on notice that PUBLIC WILL NOT tolerate the abuse of SOC SEC. They are also working to protect medicare. at site-Campaign to Save Social Security and Medicare site project of National Assoc for Uniformed Services. You DON'T have to be a SENIOR to help.

The DEMS would rather claim that taxes need to be raised, and that services need to be cut, and their Socialist rhetoric that American's are so "selfish" for not wanting to pay higher taxes, rather than keep from using the funds for pet pork projects and to pay off those whom helped them get elected.

Here's the point in 2010 or 2012 the new baby boomers are about to start retiring, people, and if this HR 219 IS NOT IN PLACE NOW to provide the surplus we need----it will be bankrupt in 2010 or 2012. They want to do an irresponsible bailout which will bankrupt us as well, but they want to BAILOUT BUSINESSES but when it comes to doing something "good' for WE THE PEOPLE they don't want to do anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 02/18/2009

HR 219 THIS WILL SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY---but guess why PUBLIC hasn't heard about it??

Because DEMS don't want anyone to know that this bill will for DECADES to come SECURE SOCIAL SECURITY for the PUBLIC how?

1. Creates enough SURPLUS to pay all SOC SEC benefits for decades to come

2.Keeps politicians from cutting PRESENTSOC SEC benefits

3. keeps politicians from raising taxes.The lobby groups put out the info yesterday and that DEMS don't want anyone to know because then politicians would have to stop using the SOC SEC for pork projects. introduced to Congress by RON PAUL OF TEXAS. If you want to put a stop to this worst spending you can write your congressman, Christopher Kit Bond and Claire McCaskill at the US Senate, Washington D.C. 20510 or your US Congressman Respresenting the 8th District, Jo Ann Emerson, Washington D.C., 20510.

Tell them your want to see the Social Security Preservation Act HR 219 which would require 100% of the trust fund money saved be passed. It is clear politicians will not pass the Social Security preservation Act HR 219 unless a tidal wave of support for the American public forces them too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 02/18/2009
- tiredlady I'm a Fan of tiredlady 22 fans permalink
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The excuses that people give for not having single-payer healthcare are empty. The only reason we can't get it is that the insurance industry won't let us. They stand to lose billions. The people who don't have money to pay for health insurance,but make too much for Medicaid are being martyred to the heartless, gutless politicians and the insurance lobby. I want the same level of care that Congress gets, and for the same cost they pay. Don't you dare stand at the public trough, sucking up resources, and then deny good, hard working people the same benefits you get- ON THEIR NICKEL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 02/18/2009
- Kalena I'm a Fan of Kalena 4 fans permalink
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What's 'bloody depressing" is that by inserting enormous corporate profits into our sick care system, we are paying twice as much for care...and rank 37th!!! in the world (new WHO study) for the lack of care we receive...paying sooooo much. Our system is a sham and a shame, and like so many things in this once-great country, it needs serious fixing...NOW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 02/18/2009
- n2ch I'm a Fan of n2ch permalink

Does anyone know what the specific difficulties of switching over to universal care would be? In Canada I think that they have a monthly charge of $50 (but it depends on what Province you live in) that each person is required to pay (like car insurance is required here but you pay it to the govt). Then you pay for eye care and dental when you need those services but all medical is taken care of. You can also purchase private health care if you wish. As an uninsured American, the Canadian program sounds very agreeable to me. And how would our system work differently from other universal care plans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 02/18/2009
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$50.00 per month?! I pay almost three times this amount (BCBS increased the bi-weekly premium to $70.00) and I am a federal employee.

I really believe that my premium is nothing more than a way to subsidize the pay of health insurance business executives pay.

For the life of me, I don't understand peoples' hang up over single payer universal health care. Right now, I can't even go to the primary care without having to come out of pocket for a simple blood test measuring the blood count for iron since that test is NOT included in the category of "preventative care" for BCBS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 02/18/2009
- n2ch I'm a Fan of n2ch permalink

Yes, I imagine some increases are occurring in the Canadian system due to the economy. BUT, if a Canadian ever needed extensive hospitalization or health care services they would not lose everything they owned if they could not pay the hundreds of thousands of dollars in bills.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 02/19/2009
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This article is bloody depressing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 02/18/2009

I have the medical power of attorney for my Aunt in Canada. After being diagnosed with cataracts, she had to wait 10 months to be treated. That's the great Canadian system!

I spent 29 years in the Air Force. I can say my family and I had some of the best care. However when there was a problem you were stuck. As one hospital Commander told me; "It's like the commissary, if you don't like the meat, shop elsewhere". That's what no choice gets you.

If the government can provide such great care then why are there all these problems with the VA hospitals and Walter Reed Medical Center?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 02/18/2009
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 21 fans permalink
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lack of funding maybe? I believe that for profit health insurance is immoral ... people making money by denying coverage, prolonging agony, not recognizing procedures used for 20 years as "experimental"? what we have now isn't working either!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 02/18/2009
- n2ch I'm a Fan of n2ch permalink

That is a sad story, no elderly person should have to suffer, but cataracts are not life threatening. How many people here in the US have been denied treatment and surgeries that could have saved their lives but were denied treatment by their insurance companies? Too many.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 02/19/2009
- Takae I'm a Fan of Takae 10 fans permalink

You do of course realize it varies from one district to another? My elderly neighbor in England, who also had cataracts, had the surgery within two weeks while her friend from another district had to wait four months. I suspect this is the case in Canada as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 02/18/2009
- Dave27 I'm a Fan of Dave27 31 fans permalink

These creeps "that have no intention of paying for..." are so short-sighted to miss the point that the health insurance we now have costs us more than a sensible single payer health care system. Insurance reduces risk in the aggregate, so the bigger the number of insured, the lower the per person cost--AND the better the coverage.

It's long past time to have Universal Health Care. Republicans have been the party of NO, since Harry Truman tried to improve our health care system.

Greedy, cheap and foolish, Republicans have ended up costing us better health at lower cost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 02/18/2009
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 21 fans permalink
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actually the Republicans tanked universal health care when FDR tried to pass it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 02/18/2009
- RumiSouth I'm a Fan of RumiSouth 34 fans permalink
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Medicare Part D provides an illuminating example of what happens when you let lobbyists write health care legislation. I work in a mail-order pharmacy call center and take calls from confused, scared, and angry seniors EVERY DAY. The Part D provision was deliberately crafted to create a confusing, complex system of coverage that most adults of any age cannot figure out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 02/18/2009
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 21 fans permalink
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duh ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 02/18/2009
- MossyOak I'm a Fan of MossyOak 43 fans permalink
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That's because Republicans wrote it. Remember, we had this dude name Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 02/18/2009

You're wrong and RumiSouth was right.

Lobbyists wrote Medicare Part D drug coverage and delivered it to the GOP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 AM on 02/19/2009
- Emlyn I'm a Fan of Emlyn 9 fans permalink

Why doesn't the government put everybody on medical insurance something like Medicare. It works. It's not perfect, but it works.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 02/18/2009
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