Obama Goes To Canada On First Foreign Trip

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BEN FELLER | 02/19/09 11:18 PM | AP

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President Barack Obama gestures during a joint news conference with Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper,Thursday, Feb. 19,2009, on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Canada. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

OTTAWA — President Barack Obama courted warmer relations with America's snowy northern neighbor Thursday, declining to ask war-weary Canada to do more in Afghanistan, promising he won't allow a protectionist creep into U.S. trade policy and talking reassuringly around thorny energy issues.

Obama-happy crowds cheered Obama's seven-hour visit, his first outside U.S. borders as president, and he returned the compliment with a quick stop at an indoor market where he delighted shopkeepers by picking up pastries and souvenirs for his daughters.

"I love this country and think that we could not have a better friend and ally," Obama said as he appeared side-by-side with Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper at gothic Parliament Hill. He later slipped slightly as he walked to his plane and joked that the weather reminded him of Chicago.

Harper in turn rolled out the red carpet for the new U.S. president. The Conservative leader had been close to President George W. Bush, personally and on policy. But he made clear with subtle jabs backward that he was casting his and his country's lot now with the vastly more popular Obama.

"As we all know, one of President Obama's big missions is to continue world leadership by the United States of America, but in a way that is more collaborative," Harper said, an apparent reference to Bush's go-it-alone diplomatic style.

Still, rhetorical niceties aside, there are some sharp differences between the U.S. and its largest trading partner and biggest supplier of oil. On several topics, where Obama came armed with reassurances, Harper offered mini-lectures, albeit gently delivered.

On the 7-year-old Afghanistan war, for instance, the Canadian leader said that NATO and U.S. forces fighting a resurgent Taliban insurgency are not "through our own efforts going to establish peace and security in Afghanistan." With Obama's administration undertaking a broad review of the U.S. strategy there, Harper suggested that any new policy "have the idea of an end date, of a transition to Afghan responsibility for security, and to greater Western partnership for economic development."

On Canada's massive oil-rich tar sands, Harper suggested that the kind of emissions regulations that environmentalists would like Obama to support would be unfair, making a comparison to the U.S. coal industry. "It's very hard to have a tough regulatory system here when we are competing with an unregulated economy south of the border," Harper said.

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On trade, Obama stuck to his pledge to eventually seek changes in the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement to increase enforcement of labor and environmental standards _ but said he intended to do so in a way "that is not disruptive to the extraordinarily important trade relationships that exist between the United States and Canada."

Harper said he might be willing to negotiate, but not by "opening the whole NAFTA and unraveling what is a very complex agreement."

He sounded a similar warning on a "Buy American" clause that Congress added to the $787 billion economic stimulus package. The provision's passage fits into a larger fear among free-trading Canadians that America is cultivating a protectionist streak as its economy tanks and hemorrhages jobs.

"We expect the United States to adhere to its international obligations," Harper said. "I can't emphasize how important it is that we do that."

Another point of contention is the post-Sept. 11 security enhancements required by the U.S. along the two country's borders that have made crossings more arduous. Harper suggested no one needed to teach Canada lessons on that score: "Not only have we, since 9/11, made significant investments in security and security along our border, the view of this government is unequivocal: Threats to the United States are threats to Canada."

Obama repeatedly took a non-confrontational approach.

On trade, he declared that he had told Harper: "I want to grow trade and not contract it."

On Afghanistan, Obama said unprompted that he had not asked the prime minister for any more Canadian commitments. Just a handful of nations, including Canada, are doing the heavy lifting there by fighting in the country's dangerous southern and eastern provinces. Canada, which has lost more than 100 people in Afghanistan, is withdrawing its 2,500 combat forces out of the volatile south by 2011.

"We just wanted to make sure that we were saying thank you," Obama said.

The president announced earlier this week that he is sending 17,000 more U.S. troops to Afghanistan to augment the 33,000 already there. It was just over half the increase that U.S. commanders have requested, and Obama left the door open to additional increases once the strategy review is finished in late March.

On the oil sands issue, Obama probably scored points with his hosts by linking the environmental problems of the Canadian industry with those in the U.S. coal industry.

Industry officials estimate the northern Alberta sands could yield as much as 175 billion barrels of oil, making Canada second only to Saudi Arabia in crude oil reserves. But the extraction process produces a high amount of the greenhouse gases blamed for climate change. Environmental groups want Obama to resist Harper's efforts to exempt them from regulation.

Obama instead focused on the idea of developing carbon capture and storage to help turn the sands into a clean source of power, a largely unproven and not yet cost-effective technology that would bury harmful emissions underground.

The topic was the only one to produce an announcement, though a minor one. The leaders said they had decided to begin a new clean-energy dialogue to advance carbon-reduction technologies and the development of a modern electric grid.

Presidents send signals with their choices of their maiden international trips, and by coming here Obama meant to show that energy and Afghanistan are at the top of his list.

But with the U.S. economy in free fall, he chose not to make a long visit, not even staying for dinner.

The Canadian public didn't seem to care, with many spending hours on buses to come to the snowy capital in hopes of just a glimpse. The crowd of many hundreds that had started gathering at 4 a.m. in the square outside Parliament erupted in a deafening cheer when the U.S. leader waved for a moment from behind a partition before disappearing inside with Harper. Along his motorcade route, a woman held up a "Yes We Canada" sign, a playful reference to Obama's campaign motto.

There was one small Obama slip. During his joint appearance with Harper, Obama started out by remarking his great pleasure at being in what he clearly started to say was "Iowa." He quickly corrected himself to say "Ottawa."

The day afforded Obama his first experience with many of the pomp-filled ingredients of a presidential journey abroad.

With a light snow falling at the airport, a double line of Royal Canadian Mounted Police in their bright red coats stood at attention. Obama was greeted by the representative of Britain's Queen Elizabeth II, Michaelle Jean, who took him inside the terminal for a brief discussion. Obama later met in the same room at the end of his visit with Liberal opposition leader Michael Ignatieff. Throughout his visit, American flags fluttered alongside Canadian ones.

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Associated Press writers Rob Gillies and Ben Feller contributed to this report.

OTTAWA — President Barack Obama courted warmer relations with America's snowy northern neighbor Thursday, declining to ask war-weary Canada to do more in Afghanistan, promising he won't allow a ...
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The Canadian people want more environmental regulations, but they are extremely wary of any more harmonization with US regulatory standards.

This because corporate interests have taken over American food safety, agriculture, pharmaceutical testing and approvals, medical services, prison services and education programs.
Canadians face all of the same challenges of corporate intrusion into matters of personal safety, liberty and control of the nations resources.
So far Canadians have not rolled over and given up as much control of their lives, so far.

But smugness and overconfidence is a weakness that can be exploited. Canada is very vulnerable right now. Especially because Ignatieff (Liberal PM in waiting) is really a neocon free trader who values companies bottom lines over real people , and is willing to sell out all of our resources to multi-national interests.

Canadians and Americans as people have more in common than they every have.
We are both being destroyed by the slow march to fascism. And soon we will both have leaders from what have always been leftist parties, who are in fact neocons bent on bringing more war, more lies and more corporate control. Both nations liberal parties have been taken over by the neocons.
I know I know, I can hear you saying I am wrong.....­because corporate media told you so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 02/20/2009
- Greenguy25 I'm a Fan of Greenguy25 2 fans permalink

Its important that Canada be included in our progress on environmental issues, but not to the point where it stalls our efforts. The amount of oil traded by Canada will start to decrease as we move forward into the new "Energy Age", so just as our coal industry will adjust so too should the Canadian oil industry.

http://www.mygreenscene.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 02/20/2009
- theaviator I'm a Fan of theaviator 2 fans permalink

Agree, but don't forget that the current government in Canada is a conservative gov. Things will be different under a Liberal government in terms of environment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 02/20/2009
- greysells2 I'm a Fan of greysells2 42 fans permalink
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Mr.Harper hardly rolled out the red carpet. It was a working visit and very short. Both men were correctly polite and left doors open for future more substantive discussions. This was a glorified photo op and a "feel good" session. Your article is not very impressive. It did not offer anything contextual or substantive about Canada-American relations.­The snowy northern neighbour dig is pretty trite pandering mostly to the vast majority of Americans that know nothing about Canada. I saw it all yesterday and the analysis and comentary afterward and I did not see any lecturing by Mr. Harper. I am not a fan of Mr. Harper but I thought the two did a pretty good job for openers. I thought Mr. Obama to be very warm and he cemented his very high popularity rating with the Canadian people - 89% positive. not an inpressive article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 02/20/2009

Harper appears to be selling Obama on "clean oil" from oil sands through carbon capture.

Please see:

"Clean Energy Dialogue" or Carbon Capture Shellgame?
Thursday, Feb 19, 2009
http://www.desmogblog.com/clean-energy-dialogue-or-carbon-capture-shellgame

According to a Canadian government memo initially marked secret, oil sands carbon capture is a fairtale being told by the fossil fuel industry.

Please see:

Secret advice to politicians: oilsands emissions hard to scrub
Monday, November 24, 2008
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/11/24/sands-trap.html

Oil sands are the dirtiest of fossil fuels, at up to three times the emissions of conventional oil. (Synthetic oil from coal has only twice the emissions of conventional oil.)

Please see:

U.S. mayors join call for ban on oilsands-based gasoline
Monday, June 23, 2008
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/06/23/us-mayors-oilsands.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 AM on 02/20/2009
- STG 44 I'm a Fan of STG 44 5 fans permalink

I was excited when Pres. Obama decided to go to Canada, but decidedly disappointed when he chose to return to the U.S.A. I was hoping he might use the opportunity of his visit to ask the Canadian government for asylum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 02/20/2009
- aBr1t I'm a Fan of aBr1t 13 fans permalink

yeah from ditto heads like you who make insane comment and dont understand words like asylum.

you prat

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 AM on 02/20/2009
- 111 I'm a Fan of 111 34 fans permalink

Sep. '08
"Obama supports amending the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) “so that we can enforce labor and environmental standards.­...he’s confident that he can succeed because amending NAFTA is in the interest of workers in all three countries.­”

Feb. '09
"[Obama will]....e­ventually seek changes in the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement to increase enforcement of labor and environmental standards _ but said he intended to do so in a way "that is not disruptive to the extraordinarily important trade relationships that exist between the United States and Canada."
Harper said he might be willing to negotiate, but not by "opening the whole NAFTA and unraveling what is a very complex agreement.­"
He sounded a similar warning on a "Buy American" clause that Congress added to the $787 billion economic stimulus package. The provision's passage fits into a larger fear among free-trading Canadians that America is cultivating a protectionist streak as its economy tanks and hemorrhages jobs.
"We expect the United States to adhere to its international obligations," Harper said. "I can't emphasize how important it is that we do that."

I guess Harper will decide what, if and when anything gets changed and who cares if Americans don't have jobs, lose their homes, don't have health care and start going hungry - buy American is protectionist and detrimental to Canada ...

I wish President Obama had taken a stand for Americans now because "eventually" may be too late to help us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 02/19/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 188 fans permalink

Hopefully, this will quell the Buy American crowd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 02/19/2009
- theaviator I'm a Fan of theaviator 2 fans permalink

By the way, recent polls show that the Liberals are now moving ahead and Harper, who got only 38% of the popular vote, is not that well viewed, with the exception of conservatives.

Harper is Bush's alter ego, really, and the tide has changed in Canada into what has always been a liberal country.

Expect in a couple of years at the next election to see Michael Ignatieff (a friend of one of Obama's aids in fact) become PM as leader of the Liberal Party and have much more common issues with Obama, such as energy where the Liberal is also at times referred to as a green party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 02/19/2009
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Best sign in the crowd in Ottawa today:

"Maybe we can!"

So blo ody Canadian :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 02/19/2009
- UbiVeritas I'm a Fan of UbiVeritas 3 fans permalink

Is it just me, or does Barack look more like Mussolini with every day in office?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 02/19/2009
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It's you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 02/19/2009
- theaviator I'm a Fan of theaviator 2 fans permalink

What??????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 02/19/2009
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Don't insult Obama like that please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 02/19/2009
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His nose is not nearly magnificent enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 02/19/2009
- nico89 I'm a Fan of nico89 3 fans permalink

Reputation is a vulgar opinion where there is no truth. So step off Ubi.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 AM on 02/20/2009
- UbiVeritas I'm a Fan of UbiVeritas 3 fans permalink

That's an interesting observation. Any idea on what it means?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 02/20/2009
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With all the issues going on around the world, following 'tradition' by visiting Canada first is just silly. O and his cougar, Hillary are both off to countries that aren't destabilized by American policy.

We need to see real progress in foreign policy, not photo ops.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 02/19/2009
- Bocado I'm a Fan of Bocado 4 fans permalink

Ya, that kind of stuff takes time.
If he were to visit Iran or N.Korea you'd be saying it's too fast and he didn't think about it.

Nice try though.

Just a lil FYI, if you're the new person in the neighborhood, it's usually nice to say hi to your immediate neighbors first, not the ones down the street. ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 02/20/2009

You comment is silly. 7 hours to acknowledge our # 1 trading partner and ally was time well spent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 02/20/2009

buttercupper, Obama did NOT lie about his position on NAFTA. He has said all along that he supports strengthening the labour and environmental standards in NaFTa, but he has never, ever, said that he wishes to be a protectionist or that he wishes to kill Nafta or reduce trade in any way; he simply wants Fair TRADE and not free trade, if it is based on the backs of slave labour.

Finally, the USA needs trade; we have a trade account deficit, meaning we import more than export; to get out of this hole we need obama to figure out how to support our industries and make us more competitive in the global marketplace so that foreigner will start buying our stuff again.. a weak dollar is actually good for this...

as we saw in china.stro­ng trade (exports) is very good for a country's economy and spreads wealth amongst all people; but Obama also understands that social safety nets are important to re-train people who have been laid off..

Obama GETS it..he gets the need for balance; he will neither be a free-trade monger or a protectionist loon. he will be reasonable and moderate at the center, as a good leader should be!

He never lied about that, so you stop your lying!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 02/19/2009
- greysells2 I'm a Fan of greysells2 42 fans permalink
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Canada has labour and environmental standards. Maybe they are not fully harmonized yet with the US standards and vice versa. REM the US hasn't particularly been the gold standard in regulations over the last 8 years. In some areas Canada is ahead; some not. What Mr. Obama said makes sense. Lets get the NAFTA Agreement to reflect good environmental and employment standard in all three Nafta countries. This does not imply Canadians need to pull up their socks any more than the US and Mexico need to. All three need to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 02/20/2009
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I wonder who Obama will appoint to be the next Prime Minister Canada?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 02/19/2009
- Bocado I'm a Fan of Bocado 4 fans permalink

Well, we all know Bush sent goons to help Harper with his campaign first time around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 AM on 02/20/2009

So he did lie about being tough on NAFTA?

Henrietta Homeless is a Real Estate Investor??

http://digg.com/politics/Obama_s_Henrietta_Homeless_Woman_Is_A_Real_Estate_Investor

And Obama gave her a home??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 02/19/2009
- MJinCanada I'm a Fan of MJinCanada 114 fans permalink

He didn't. A kindly Repubican lady lent her a house.

If Hughes and her son are running a con game, they are pros and the President shouldn't be blamed for getting taken in.

If the far right bloggers are building a conspiracy theory around an innocent woman, shame on them.

BTW, one of those right-wing bloggers said he wouldn't have fallen for her story because she's "obviously never missed a meal in her life." Which shows how out of touch he is. Sixty or more years ago, poor people were thin because they couldn't afford fats and sugars. Today, poor people are more likely to be obese because refined carbs and fats are so much cheaper than fresh produce and milk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 02/19/2009

I spent most of last year in Quebec and was so surprised and disappointed at the negative opinion of Americans that seemed to be the dominant view. I expected that from across the ocean...bu­t from Canada...o­ur so-called closest ally?! Countless times, I had to refute Canadian opinions of Americans as being generally stupid and brainwashed, and our country being the monster next door that would actually attack them for water or oil if necessary. Their news paints these same images. Seemed to be embedded in the culture and mindset there. It’s wonderful to be back in the US, despite all of our issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 02/19/2009
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You were in Quebec. They are French. The French can't stand anybody. Even each other. Most English speaking Canadians, (Oh, and by the way they hate us too.) disliked Bush, not Americans in general. Unless of course they talk with an annoying, phony-baloney Texas accent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 02/19/2009
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"They are French. The French can't stand anybody."

1. They're not French
2. Nice stereotyping

Xenophobia is a mental disorder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 02/19/2009
- Emlyn I'm a Fan of Emlyn 11 fans permalink

I had a very different view of Ottawa in the year 2000. I spent five days there at a convention. I was treated with respect and had no problems at all. I thought Ottawa was so beautiful - they have a canal running thru the town which was filled with boaters, etc (this was summer) and the parliament buildings were beautiful. I was very impressed with Ottawa.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 02/19/2009

I think this is exaggerated. And anyway, call it the "Bush effect". Don't worry, things are getting better. Almost everyone in Québec is excited about Obama and the progressive movement that propelled him to the presidency. Obama's approval rate is around 80% in Canada and I would not be surprised if it was even higher in Québec alone, because the province is a bit more progressive than the rest of the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 02/19/2009

umm..let's get his straight: in ALL countries domestic politicians are successful and gain support by either 1) scapegoating an internal minority or 2) inciting hate towards some 'foreign' nation as the 'other' wothy of hate or scorn...

politicians of all stripes, most of them, the ones that aren't really any good, incite this fear and hate to build unity and build support.

On some levels i can't fully blame average Canadians.­.the US breached int'l law and opinion in invading and subsequently administering a sovereign nation. Bush claimed war on all those that don't agree with him. This is why a return to diplomacy and a moderate stance, like Obama's is important in repairing our image. Although many peoples will talk smack, none in the developed world truly view others as the 'enemy' though the US has the potential to be dangerous if the wrong leader wins - we have the greatest stockpile of weapons and nukes out of all countries, yet deny the right to others...s­uspicious much? Didn;t mom teach us never to trust power for long? Absolute power corrupts absolutely, as Americans, we should strongly think about this profound statement before we become the next Roman Empire/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 02/19/2009
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I can't imagine you were very convincing. You probably reinforced their perceptions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 02/19/2009
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