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McCain Confronts Obama On Marine One (VIDEO)

First Posted: 03/26/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:05 PM ET

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At the closing session of the president's fiscal responsibility summit on Monday, high-ranking members of Congress were asked to put on their reportorial hats, quizzing Barack Obama on various aspects of his economic priorities.

Perhaps the sharpest exchange of the bunch came at the beginning, when John McCain, after receiving a few plaudits from the president, asked Obama about defense procurements and, more specifically, the expensive fleet of presidential helicopters that were ordered during the Bush years but will be assigned during the current presidency.

It wasn't quite at the level of an election year debate. But McCain managed to not only put the president on the spot, but shine a spotlight on one of his pet issues. "Your helicopter is now going to cost as much as Air Force One," McCain told Obama. "I don't think that there's anymore graphic demonstration of how good ideas have cost taxpayers enormous amount of money."

A full transcript:

MCCAIN: One area I wanted to mention that I think consumed a lot of our conversation on procurement. It was the issue of cost overruns and the Defense Department. We all know how large the defense budget is. We all know that the cost overruns, your helicopter is now going to cost as much as Air Force One. I don't think that there's anymore graphic demonstration of how good ideas have cost taxpayers enormous amount of money. So the -- we will and I know that you've already made plans to try to curb some of the excesses in procurement. We really have to do that. We're going to have to pay for Afghanistan as you well now and we're not done in Iraq, but most importantly, we have to make some tough decisions, you, Mr. President have to make some tough decisions, not only about what we procure, but how we procure it...


OBAMA: This is going to be one of our highest priorities. By the way, I've already talked to [Defense Secretary Robert] Gates about a thorough review of the helicopter situation. The helicopter I have now seems perfectly adequate to me. Of course, I've never had a helicopter before. You know? Maybe -- maybe I've been deprived and I didn't know it. But I think it is an example of the procurement process gone amuck and we're going to have to fix it. Our hope is that you, Senator Levin and others can take leadership on this and one of the promising things is, I think Secretary Gates shares our concern and recognizes that simply adding more and more does not necessarily mean better or safer and more secure.

The two presidential candidates have, indirectly, had an exchange like this before. During the course of the campaign, both candidates vowed to reform the process of defense procurement, with the Arizona senator taking the sharper line of condemnation for the Marine One helicopter. Obama, too, has criticized the price of the fleet of 28 planes, which is expected to cost the taxpayer more than $11 billion dollars. And his answer suggests he's happy with the current presidential helicopter.

On a broader level, there are a variety of political difficulties involved in tightening up on defense procurements: thousands of jobs are tied to the spending, and it opens up a president to charges that he's underfunding the Pentagon. If Obama wants to tackle these issues now, it seems that McCain could serve as a useful bipartisan ally in the Senate.

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At the closing session of the president's fiscal responsibility summit on Monday, high-ranking members of Congress were asked to put on their reportorial hats, quizzing Barack Obama on various aspects...
At the closing session of the president's fiscal responsibility summit on Monday, high-ranking members of Congress were asked to put on their reportorial hats, quizzing Barack Obama on various aspects...
 
 
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10:53 AM on 03/01/2009
Today's headline "Obama helicopter security breached -- blueprints for Marine One found at Iran IP address"
What did John McCain know and when did he know it?
05:51 PM on 02/28/2009
Way to hop on the really big issue, Senator. Cutting to the chase is a skill so many of our politicians lack.
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Pearlswan
Born in Philly yet my heart's now in Frisco
04:37 PM on 02/27/2009
There's so much more on the helicopter contract story than was discussed here. Weren't these 17 helicopters ordered by Bush from an Italian contractor as payment for the "yellowcake" evidence the Italians gave Bush to support his invasion of Iraq to search for WMDs? I thought I read about this on the HuffPost recently. McCain forgot to mention all of that or maybe he did in private. It isn't about whether the current helicopter fleet is adequate but whether the current US president is bound by the Bush contract with the Italians, isn't it? Can that contract be cancelled? Besides its the same company that builds helicopters for Iran as I understand what was previously reported. And, isn't it some kind of corrupt deal anyway? McCain barely scratched the surface with his question and his focus on the helicopters.
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Lex10
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12:47 PM on 02/27/2009
....like he'd EVER give up anything. He's looking at 2016, I guess with his transparent puppet mastered obeisance.
12:23 PM on 02/27/2009
In what world was this confrontational? I saw a very respectful John McCain voice concern on a legitimate example of govt. spending gone wild. True that this probably should've been brought up 8 yrs ago, but nonetheless legit. That looked like the best case scenario of any business meeting I've been in: Open-minded, pleasant discourse between the team leader (Obama) and a team member (McCain).
04:57 PM on 02/27/2009
John McCain needs to retire.If he wants to help the economy, he shouls give up collecting his Social Security along with his pension or donate his senate salary...........................................................
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lolyla
Happy happy joy joy
11:08 PM on 02/26/2009
In what universe was that a "confrontation?"
08:27 PM on 02/26/2009
get a life John !
04:59 PM on 02/27/2009
He still is angry because he lost the ELECTION............................................
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AllenFromAtlanta
04:04 PM on 02/26/2009
John Mc Cain's image and legacy as a senator have suffered a self inflicted battle wound.
02:09 PM on 02/26/2009
If Obama wants to tackle these issues now, it seems that McCain could serve as a useful bipartisan ally in the Senate.

McCain's days of 'reaching across the aisle' are over and they ended with the 2000 elections. All he wants to do now is be a spoiler and the king of negativity. I love the John Stewart clip of the Obama/McCain debate where McCain is wandering aimlessly about the stage. The voice over for McCain has him looking for 'Mr Puddles'. I think that clip pretty much portrays McCain's relevance.
02:07 PM on 02/26/2009
Maverick hmm? Surprised you didn't figure out a deal for the DC Channel 4 traffic helicopter to drop the President at National airport to fly coach. Or take the Metro for heaven's sake.
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PWM
Eisenhower Republican. Liberalism = Liberty
02:03 PM on 02/26/2009
Hi John,

Washington wants his wooden teeth back.
12:13 PM on 02/26/2009
McCain has become irrelevant since the election. His new role seems to be that of a grumpy old man.
02:19 PM on 02/26/2009
McCains "puss "in your picture says everything. Just an annoyed, old loser.
11:46 AM on 02/26/2009
It is all about foreign company money for U.S. Politicians.

Lockheed Martin is a the phony face that is being put on this outsourced contract to AgustaWestland. The main builders of these new Helicopter$ are the Italians and Brits, not the U.S..

The people pushing the helicopter to be outsourced???

Hilary Clinton -
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20306341/the_queen_of_pork/print
http://townhall.com/columnists/OliverNorth/2004/08/13/outsourcing_national_defense

And I personally think John McCain is getting paid off by foreign company lobbyists. He is for outsourcing the new Airforce tanker to AirBus and has flipped on the Marine One helicopter. He is now turning tail, since both have been stopped or are in review by the DOD and Obama.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/mccain_aides_defend_lobbied_fo.html
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13361.html
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
11:09 AM on 02/26/2009
John McCain has his own jet... well, his sugar momma does, anyway.

So what's the problem? If lil' Johnny wants his own helicopter, he should just ask Cindy to buy one for him.
11:12 AM on 02/26/2009
Wife's company jet.

Not his, but he gets to use it.
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PWM
Eisenhower Republican. Liberalism = Liberty
02:02 PM on 02/26/2009
His wife controls the company, in effect its her jet.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
03:08 PM on 02/26/2009
Try rereading my comment.

If you don't understand why I said that, read it again and again until you realize what you did wrong.
11:03 AM on 02/26/2009
John 'I'm a pathetic hypocrite' McCain.....please don't make me gag.........