Obama Budget: Billions On Health Care For Reform This Year

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First Posted: 02-23-09 09:47 AM   |   Updated: 03-26-09 05:12 AM

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President Barack Obama's first budget will call for tens of billions of dollars to be devoted to health care, in an effort to help ensure that major reform of the current system is considered within the year.

A senior administration official tells the Huffington Post that the president will provide "many billions of dollars" over a "ten-year period" to fund health care in the upcoming budget, to be introduced Thursday.

As confirmed by the official, the money will provide a pool of resources to help shore up the health care system on the benefits and coverage side. With that in place, the administration is hoping that Congress will push through a legislative overhaul for the health care system within a year.

"On the benefits side and the coverage side we are going to have principles, but part of what we are trying to do is set up a legislative process where we can actually get this done," said the official. "So don't expect full details on the benefits side, what we are trying to do instead is provide some funding that could then fund a variety of different ways that go about covering the coverage/benefits side. We are focused on getting health care done this year and the budget is going to facilitate that."

As for the source of the revenue stream, the Obama administration will use an "innovative" approach (see: cuts) to budgeting on items such as Medicare Advantage and Medicare and Medicaid spending. It may also tax large employers who have failed to provide coverage to their employees. The rest of the funds, as the New Republic's John Cohn writes, will have to be manufactured by Congress.

The trickier task will likely be reforming the system itself. The Obama administration is committed to not making the same mistakes as the Clinton task force in '93, which means allowing Congress to be a co-equal branch in the process. The president won't lay down a full plan alongside the budget, allowing members to craft something more amenable to the legislative branch. This could prove tricky for a variety of reasons. On the political side, some representatives, notably Rep. James Clyburn, have said a step-by-step approach to reform is preferable to a major overhaul. Others insist just the opposite. On the legislative side, as Ezra Klein points out in the American Prospect, the sticking point seems to be the employer tax exemption, which allows employers who buy health care for their employees to write off the cost while individuals who buy coverage for themselves are taxed.

Congress, indeed, has been slowly working its way towards exactly this conclusion. Ron Wyden's Healthy Americans Act replaced the employer tax exclusion with a health care standard deduction that phases out for families with higher incomes: Individuals making more than $125,000 receive no deduction at all. Max Baucus's white paper doesn't get into specifics, but simply states, "Most economists argue there are problems with the current set of tax incentives for heath care...One option for reform is to cap the amount of health care premiums that can be excluded from employee wages for income and payroll tax purposes."

With these legislative hurdles still in need of jumping, the Obama administration is hoping that the budget provides the launching pad needed for health care reform. Moreover, they're keen on getting the process finalized within a year.

"I think what will happen quickly is that there will be some summit on health care specifically and then we are working legislatively with the relevant committees to try and actually get this thing done, this year," said the administration official.

President Barack Obama's first budget will call for tens of billions of dollars to be devoted to health care, in an effort to help ensure that major reform of the current system is considered within t...
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I hear that we all must sacrifice, when speaking about health care. None of the so called advocacy groups ever mention one group....P­HYSICIANS. You never see a going out of business sign on a physicians office. Why are the spaces in medical school limited. Simply...supply and demand. Add more spots to add competition for primary care and gerontology. ( working with the elderly advocate groups)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 03/08/2009
- billw8017 I'm a Fan of billw8017 34 fans permalink

The United States needs universal health care. Emergency room care, the urban alternative, lacks preventive medical care which may be the most useful and practical form of health care. Basically, we skimp and neglect our health because of the expense. It is pointless to say we have some of the best geriatric and expensive care in the world: Inaccessible care is the same as being without care.

Means testing is a very bad idea. It amounts to an arbitrary denial of care that discredits the entire system. Social Security is popular exactly because it is not means tested. Welfare was unpopular because it used means testing and, therefore, lost the affections of those with significant but insufficient claims on it.

Veterans should get care for any and all claims. The current system of denying care obliges the government to maintain lawyers and clerks whose expense and function is devoted to denying care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 AM on 02/24/2009

The government is the ONLY answer. Take the Post Office - you can get a letter anywhere in the country overnight - I do not understand why anyone would use FedEx, UPS, DHL, etc... Why do they even exist?

Public Housing - could anyone but government manage this area of our lives better?

Education - our best and our brightest flock to our public schools am I right? thank the government.

AHH health care - wait until you have government employees driving and maintaining our ambulances. They will look like our buses and public schools in no time flat -

ever look over the counter at the department of motor vehicles? what happens when you need a government employee to sign off on your emergency surgery? how long did it take you to get a pass port?

Rich Canadians and Brits fly to the US for treatment for a reason people -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 02/23/2009
- swo68 I'm a Fan of swo68 14 fans permalink

I lived in Canada for 27 years. My family is Canadian. My grandmother was a nurse for 25 years. My aunt was a nurse for also 25 years. My uncle was a family doctor for nearly 35 years.

My grandfather, (who is rich, btw) did not fly here when he was recently diagnosed with colon cancer. He was diagnosed on a Thursday. He was out of surgery and home by the end of the weekend. I have many more examples with similar results.

What you hear about the Canadian health care system from people in the US is generally BS. The wait times, the quality of care. Lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 02/23/2009
- billw8017 I'm a Fan of billw8017 34 fans permalink

Rich Americans fly to Mexico for quack treatments illegal in the United States for a reason people. (They're goofy.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 AM on 02/24/2009

sassyfrassy, please have a seat and LAY OFF THE CAPS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 02/23/2009
- billw8017 I'm a Fan of billw8017 34 fans permalink

Most comments in the Huffington Post are intelligent and informative, but tend toward the liberal or progressive. Yet, 47% of all voters went for McCain. It's good to read SassyFrassy and find out what they were thinking. What makes us liberal or progressive is that the alternative is so often straight out wrong and foolish until it seems, conservative is just another word for "wrong." Jefferson had a quote for that. It's good of Sassy Frassy to remind us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 AM on 02/24/2009
- elsie900 I'm a Fan of elsie900 6 fans permalink

The commenter was referring to sassyfrassy's rude, annoying and unnecessary use of the CAPS LOCK KEY. Why did you reply as though they had said something else?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 02/26/2009

FOUNDING FATHERS NIGHTMARE--STIMULUS

Thomas Jefferson pretty well covered much about our situation today in two quotes made by him over 200 years ago. Our founders fathers feared what we are living today:

1. "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."

2. "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."*

I don"t think the presidenr's clueless. I think he knows EXACTLY what he is doing. HE was tutored by communists and making a career of destroying the productive for benefit to the leeches. No, he knows what he is doing, alright. STIMULUS deprives YOUR children/adult/vets of meds and leaves you to SILENCE the SCREAMS without meds rather than pass HR 219 AND 236 to protect SOC SEC for military and non-military and vets lockbox law and cola to protect medicare WITHOUT RAISING taxes, and WITHOUT cutting services.ggogle HR 219, HR 236 and retiresafe.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 02/23/2009

DEMS MISLEAD PUBLIC TO CLAIM FAIRNESS DOCTRINE IS OUT

10 min after the press said DEMS SAID FAIRNESS DOCTRINE IS OUT... We FOUND OUT Obama NEVER CLOSED IT PER SE, Obama LEFT it WIDE OPEN for the WASH DC SLUG PARTY to REVIVE IT under another Name.

This time they want to the FCC TO REVIVE SHARIA LAW in order to squelch FREE SPEECH by having the FCC bamboozle the public to claim that ADVISORS AND BOARDS ARE NEEDED BY CLAIMING THAT THEY ARE NEEDED TO PREVENT DISCRIMINATORY WORDING. Because they think AMERICANS are too stipid to realize that SHARIA LAW says it's punishible by death to anyone whom claims that murders, rapes terrorist acitvities of SHARIA LAW /mislim/islam are "bad". go see michelle malkin or act for america.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 02/23/2009

STIMULUS DEPRIVES CHILDREN/V­ETS/ADULTS HEALTHCARE SO WASH DC SLUGS CAN RE-DECORATE

HERE hr219 Hr 236 and VETS LOCKBOX LAW AND COLA WILL SUCCESSFULLY PROTECT SOC SEC AND MEDICARE AND MEDICAID (protects non-military too) and YET WASH DC SLUGS PREFER to TURN in an SOCIALIST healthcare which will let YOU NOT SOMEONE ELSE you/your child to DIE. how will this NATION silence the screams of people left to die. It's necessary legislation to OPPOSE STIMULUS NOW see Michelle Malkin Rutherford Institute, American Center for law and Justice, Campaign to Save SOC SEC and medicare (for non-military included) -A project of National Association of Uniformed Serv or googl HR 219, HR 236 AND retiresafe.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 02/23/2009
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We cannot move fast enough on this front. We have too many aging baby boomers coming into the public healthcare system in the next decade to wait on this. If it means creating a nationalized healthcare system so be it. We end up paying for it anyway in the end and we need to take waste out of the system before the baby boomers bury it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 02/23/2009
- K-Dog76 I'm a Fan of K-Dog76 8 fans permalink

Here's some wiki facts:
"health care services are much higher in the U.S.[2] In 1996, 5% of the population accounted for more than half of all costs.[3][4]

Active debate over health care reform in the United States concerns questions of a right to health care, access, fairness, efficiency, cost, and quality. The World Health Organization (WHO), in 2000, ranked the U.S. health care system as the highest in cost, first in responsiveness, 37th in overall performance, and 72nd by overall level of health (among 191 member nations included in the study).[5][6] The WHO study has been criticized in a study published in Health Affairs for its methodology and lack of correlation with user satisfaction ratings.[7] A 2008 report by the Commonwealth Fund ranked the United States last in the quality of health care among the 19 compared countries.[8] However, the U.S. is a leader in medical innovation, with three times higher per-capita spending than Europe.[9] The U.S. also has higher survival rates than most other countries for certain conditions, such as cancer.[10]"

So we have the worst of the 19 countries, but the highest in medical innovation and higher survival rates for certain serious conditions... hmmm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 02/23/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 69 fans permalink

Overall sounds like the system i want.............as living is the most important thing to me, next medical responsiveness

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 02/23/2009
- billw8017 I'm a Fan of billw8017 34 fans permalink

Although "certain serious conditions" may have a good survival rate, life expectancy in the United States is less than other western nations. I wonder if convenient care might not prevent some serious conditions so that we might maintain a healthy vigor rather than merely surviving and destitute -- medical costs are a major reason for personal bankruptcies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 AM on 02/24/2009
- joebloe I'm a Fan of joebloe 38 fans permalink
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"Side by side with this increase in the prosperity of the wage-worker and the tiller of the soil has gone on a great increase in prosperity among the business men and among certain classes of professional men; and the prosperity of these men has been partly the cause and partly the consequence of the prosperity of farmer and wage-worker. It cannot be too often repeated that in this country, in the long run, we all of us tend to go up or go down together. If the average of well-being is high, it means that the average wage-worker, the average farmer, and the average business man are all alike well-off. If the average shrinks, there is not one of these classes which will not feel the shrinkage. Of course, there are always some men who are not affected by good times, just as there are some men who are not affected by bad times. But speaking broadly, it is true that if prosperity comes, all of us tend to share more or less therein, and that if adversity comes each of us, to a greater or less extent, feels the tension. "
Teddy Roosevelt 1903 http://www.theodore-roosevelt.com/trsquaredealspeech.html

Why can't more Republicans think like this man. Instead, they seek to profit only the rich at the expense of all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 02/23/2009
- Cherubim I'm a Fan of Cherubim 27 fans permalink

A beautiful quote. Joebloe, I thank you for posting it.
As, we all remember Teddy Roosevelt ended up leaving the Republican Party
to be a part of the the Progressive "Bull Moose" party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 02/23/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 69 fans permalink

this new database is even something i would like to opt out of..........i don't need a government overseer.........it will change what a person will tell his doctor..........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 02/23/2009

YOU are not in the database. YOUR DOCTOR is not in "the database". THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT OVERSEER.

Here is what the morons on the right have you actually railing against:

The ability for ANY doctor to lookup the latest statistics on various treatments and see which cost the least and which have had the best results.

THAT'S ALL.... nothing more. Optional database, with info on what works that doctors can CHOOSE to access. that is it.

So all you are wailing on is the ability for a doctor to make a more informed choice, which basically means you would rather a doctor NOT know what works best.

Yeah- thanks for that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 02/23/2009

US, 'wdw505' is a tool.....eff him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 02/23/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 69 fans permalink

The bill's health rules will affect "every individual in the United States" (445, 454, 479). Your medical treatments will be tracked electronically by a federal system. Having electronic medical records at your fingertips, easily transferred to a hospital, is beneficial. It will help avoid duplicate tests and errors. But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and "guide" your doctor's decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, "Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis." According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and "learn to operate less like solo practitioners." Keeping doctors informed of the newest medical findings is important, but enforcing uniformity goes too far.

gee; "tracked electronically by a federal system" sounds like database to me.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 02/23/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 72 fans permalink

Can you for one minute imagine what this might mean? It means no more burying the information about Love Canal, the PCBs that pollute the Hudson, the Agent Orange and Gulf War syndromes and Autism and Alzheimers and PTSD and TBI....This is the way to really cut costs, to identify interventions to prevent and alleviate disease....BUT IF the REPUGS get in, there is always the issue of them corrupting the system...

100 million dollars or so would be a drop in the bucket for them....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 02/23/2009
- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 646 fans permalink
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legalize marijuana and tax it fer yer budget. you could fund an awful lot with what i suspect would be a booming new industry, that would fit well with our foreign policy, national security, health care , economy, green energy, green jobs, farmers, manufacturing, and job creation platform. stop being stubborn, democrats! PROGRESS! CHANGE! MOVE FORWARD! STOP LETTING THE TALIBANGELICALS RULE YER LIVES!

YES WE CANNABIS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 02/23/2009
- K-Dog76 I'm a Fan of K-Dog76 8 fans permalink

yes we cannabis

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 02/23/2009
- netzwerg I'm a Fan of netzwerg 7 fans permalink
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Here in Switzerland its against the law to do prescreens on people who seek insurrance, you should try that first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 02/23/2009
- hulagirrrl I'm a Fan of hulagirrrl 40 fans permalink
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It may be officially against the law, but they are screening and filtering the "risks"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 02/23/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 69 fans permalink

i would

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 02/23/2009
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It's a sad sick world when the perfectly healthy uninsured who are worried about the cold, the flu or a broken arm become more important than the millions of us who were born with a congenital birth defect that will cost millions or billions to treat. It is we, the disabled and chronically ill who will be the victims of health care reform, shed off like gangrenous arms in the fight to get the lowest possible health COST for those of you who are scared of a trip to the ER stubbed toe. This Single Payer cost/benefit analysis (computer) program will inevitably make it more cost effective for a mother with a fetus who has a chronic disability to abort because that baby's health care will cost far more than anyone else is willing to pay because they can't fathom paying more to include the less fortunate because they all want to be 90 year old Charles Atlas super healthy mutants

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 02/23/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 69 fans permalink

yes you cost too much

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 02/23/2009

Very nice straw man argument you got there...

NOBODY is saying a "perfectly healthy uninsured" is "more important " than the "millions born with a congenital health defect". In fact, that tangles up so many bogus arguments, it is probably easier to lay out what is on the table.

ALL people should not have to worry about any type of illness (congenital birth defect or not) wiping them out economically.

Any sick person, rich or poor, should have access to adequate health care.

If we can eliminate the insurance bureaucracy, we may be able to lower the overall health care costs of everyone.

So.... anything in there related to abortion or 90 year olds or the "perfectly healthy uninsured" ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 02/23/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 69 fans permalink

everyone does have access to adequate health care right now.......­.insurance is not a right

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 02/23/2009
- hulagirrrl I'm a Fan of hulagirrrl 40 fans permalink
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It is not even the insurance bureaucracy. It is the system, look around at the "cases" you see at any given night sitting in the emergency room waiting area. This should be eliminated first, it is a huge cost factor.

I believe, if every person in this country would put a certain percentage of their income into a big pot called medical insurance pot, and then the pharmaceutical companies are being put back in their place by price capping those who would like to receive money from the insurance pot should agree to a price cap, just as doctors and nurses, and hospitals operational costs. It is doable, if there is the will by the people in this country. And we should not always expect pills at every office visit, maybe if doctors would take the medical care back to basics then it would help also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 02/23/2009
- Cherubim I'm a Fan of Cherubim 27 fans permalink

There are many different universal health care plans.
I am wiling to support any plan that moves this country toward universal health
coverage for all Americans. But, I can understand ,best the one outlined
by John Edwards on the WNYC Radio's Brian Lehrer Show on 2/26/06.
Click here to see the discussion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrczxwOyUM0

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 02/23/2009
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