Polls: Obama Won The Night

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February 24, 2009 11:23 PM

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Instant public surveys on Barack Obama's address before Congress showed, by and large, that the public was incredibly receptive to his speech, regardless of political party. But that did not hold true for every single study.

A CBS News poll of approximately 500 people saw approval of the president rise from 62 percent before the speech to 69 percent afterward.

Meanwhile, a poll on CNN showed that 68 percent of respondents -- who skewed a bit Democratic -- viewed the speech positively, 24 somewhat positively, and only eight percent not positively. Eighty-two percent supported the president's economic plan as outlined in the speech, while 17 percent opposed it.

Those results were buttressed by the findings of longtime Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg. In his own dial poll, which included 50 participants of mixed gender, education and politics, Greenberg found a large swath of bipartisan support for Obama's addres. That included a 14 percent jump, from 62 to 76 percent, in the favorability rating for the president.

Saying at the onset that this was an "immensely successful speech," he highlighted a few issues on which Obama won over the audience.

* On taxes, "there was a 26-point gain," from 38 to 64 percent, "the biggest gains that he made." * On the deficit, "there was an 18 point swing... from 42 percent to 60 percent." * On Iraq, "there was a 18-point swing" (no numbers were offered)

"I've never seen this," Greenberg added. For a large part of the speech, all three, the Republican, Democratic and independent line where virtually in the same place."

What was striking, Greenberg concluded, was "how un-polarized the reaction was to this speech. I have not quite seen that."

He should tell that to the generally conservative Luntz, Maslansky Strategic Research group. Mike Maslansky, the CEO of that firm, when speaking with the Huffington Post, said he found "some of the biggest partisan divides that we ever see" in the reaction to Obama's address.

In a survey of 29 registered Democrats and Republicans in suburban Virginia, who Maslansky said were ALL generally skittish about Obama's economic plans and housing proposals, Obama managed to win over a large chunk of the crowd. Eleven respondents, nine of whom were Democrats, thought that the speech exceeded expectations. Only three thought it failed to meet expectations, all of whom were Republicans. But the responses often broken down by political affiliation.

Talk on the stimulus, Maslansky said, proved most divisive, as did talk of repairing the housing industry and, more generally, health care reform.

On energy, Obama won bipartisan plaudits, as he did when he emphasized personal responsibility both for parents dealing with their kids' education and politicians dealing with on pet interests.

"Overall, we saw some of the biggest partisan divides that we ever see in political speeches," Maslansky concluded. "The Democrats loved almost everything Obama had to say, the Republicans hated almost everything Obama had to say. There were certainly areas that Obama had working for both groups, but what was startling is just how divided people are when hearing these issues."

Instant public surveys on Barack Obama's address before Congress showed, by and large, that the public was incredibly receptive to his speech, regardless of political party. But that did not hold true...
Instant public surveys on Barack Obama's address before Congress showed, by and large, that the public was incredibly receptive to his speech, regardless of political party. But that did not hold true...
 
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Did I hear Obama say that the stimulus bill was free of earmarks? That is an outright lie and you people still back the anointed one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 02/25/2009

I was disappointed to hear the same old doom and gloom rhetoric from the President. Ever since his inauguration speech (and even before) he has been blowing the economic recession way out of proportion and preaching despair, not hope. With his words and tone, he is making his own reality and turning an economic downturn into a true economic crisis. In his speech last night, he used the words .."We will rebuild America" ... for goodness sake, rebuild what? He makes it sound as if we have been the victims of a nuclear attack.

On the positive side, I did like what he had to say about energy, education, and health care. However, the sad truth is that the Federal government cannot continue to live on borrowed money forever and it will be extremely difficult to pay for the initiatives he proposes. With our national debt quickly approaching 100% of GDP, cutting the deficit in half over the next four years is not enough. He must act boldly to pay down the debt, not just slow the rate of increase.

The bursting of the housing/personal debt bubble brought on the current economic downturn. The bursting of the government debt bubble is next .. and this will have much more devastating consequences.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 02/25/2009

Rebuild what??? Are you blind to the mess that Bush created during the last 8 years? That's what we need to rebuild: An economy that is near depression, a justice system that almost no one has confidence in any more, a defense system that is stretched to the breaking point, an international image that has fallen to the point that we have very few friends anymore, a middle class that is shrinking by the hour since Bush rerouted the wealth to the upper 5 percent, a government that was so loaded with Bush's cronies that it will take years to root out those he burrowed in before he left office. Pull your head out of wherever you have it and look around. You are so used to Bush's lies that the truth sounds like gloom and doom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 02/25/2009
- Owltree I'm a Fan of Owltree 6 fans permalink
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"I was disappointed to hear the same old doom and gloom rhetoric from the President." So you would prefer the out-and-out, unmitigated lies that we have been fed for the past 8 years? Frankly, I am weary of politicians trying to blow smoke up every orifice available in American citizens. You remind me of the Wicked Witch in "The Wiz" when she sings, "Don't Nobody Bring Me No Bad News Today". Here's a big news flash: America is in deep doody. Not hearing about it is not going to change that fact. At the risk of sounding cliched, the first step in solving a problem is admitting that there is one. It is refreshing to have a POTUS who is truthful for a change. The small town in which I live lost 750 jobs this week with the closing of a meat packing plant. These people can't even get a job flipping burgers at our local fast food joints. I trust our new president. He is a very smart man who is surrounding himself with others who are smart. After what this past administration inflicted upon us, I am grateful to the people who, for a change, have the best interests of *ALL* Americans at heart, not just the very wealthy. President Obama's plan may not work, but I truly believe that America is a lot better off now than it was just a few months ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 02/26/2009

I pointed at the TV and said "you know who that is" to my 10 year old girl. She smiled and said Obama he's our president!

I remember a little from Ford/Carter/Reagan but its safe to say there was no Lincoln, FDR or Kennedy type President in my lifetime. Until now that is.

I wonder if my little girl will get to live through another special president?

Oh yeah and i also remember seeing Willy Mays get to play

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 02/25/2009

President Obama certainly won the night with the nation; apparently the only one he didn't impress was Justice Alito. Did anyone notice how he acted when the President shook his hand? At least Chief Justice Roberts smiled and spoke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 02/25/2009
- MSaxe I'm a Fan of MSaxe 29 fans permalink

The whole issue of the size of the annual budget would be viewed a lot differently by the vast middle of the country if we were able to show it as a capital budget and not an expense budget.

Currently major expenses, like roads with 40-50 life spans, have to be shown as an expense in the year they are paid for, not over the value of the capital improvement. This distorts the economic argument and makes real needed investments look vastly more costly, with less benefit, then they really are.

Since the Republicans like using this expense accounting, we've deferred a lot of maintenance to keep up-keep costs for our infrastructure out of the budgets. Now we're at a collective crossroad of needing to revive virtually every aspect of our collective economy. But the apes are wondering why things are going to "cost" so much.

Clinton had the language right when he discussed capital expenses as investments that need to have their costs projected over their useful life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 02/25/2009

Check out NY Times:

“There is no one who can replace America. Without American leadership, there is no leadership,” said Lee Hong-koo, South Korea’s former ambassador to Washington. “That puts a tremendous burden on the American people to do something positive. You can’t be tempted by the usual nationalism. When things don’t go well, most people become nationalistic. And in the economic world, that is protectionism ... We are pleased to see President Obama is not doing that. Americans, as a people, should realize how many hopes and expectations other people are putting on their shoulders.

Of course they are talking about American consumers.
Guess what WORLD - if they don't hire US citizens and pay them well - this is what happens.
Unless you take a hundred years to brainwash your citizens into mindless, materialistic, consumers...you'll just have to wait.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 02/25/2009

Did these people even *take* statistics in school? How on Earth can anyone propose with a straight face that a poll of *29* people provides you with anything of value? 1000 or 2000 people to reflect the whole country is suspicious enough; 29? I mean, really?

And they wonder why they're out of power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 02/25/2009

I did a quick calculation. If the 29 people were a random sample, the margin of sampling error would be about +/-20% (for real polls the number is usually 3% or 4%). But, this is not even a random sample. Only Democrats and Republicans were chosen (no Independents), and they were only from one area of the country. Any results that come out of that are virtually useless.

You could call it a focus group, but it is not a useful "poll" in any way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 02/25/2009
- MSaxe I'm a Fan of MSaxe 29 fans permalink

The 70's book, The 480, was about the 480 random sample necessary to get a +/-3% margin of error in a National Poll. It would probably hold up as a reasoned discourse on national polling even though the sample size has to be larger with the increase in population over the past 30-40 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 02/25/2009

(Note: A sample size of 480 gets you a typical +/-4.5% MOE in a national poll, not +/-3%.)

In sufficiently large populations (such as the population of the US), it is NOT necessary to keep increasing sample size in order to maintain an adequate margin of sampling error.

This is because the effect of the population size approaches zero as the number gets larger. In other words, if you make your sample randomly, it doesn't matter whether the population is 100 million or 1 billion. A sample size of 480 would still get you +/-4.5%.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 02/25/2009
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This idiotic Maslansky "conclusion" simply proves that statistics can support any pre-chosen conclusion. "4 out of 5 dentists recommend...." There are lies, damned lies and statistics, and politicos embrace them all!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 02/26/2009

Obama is a truly a fake. No better than Bush except in that he is smoother. Read this:

http://www.holycows.info/blog/?p=308

http://www.holycows.info/blog/?p=312

And let me know what you think

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 02/25/2009
- ltyler01 I'm a Fan of ltyler01 8 fans permalink
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Nonsense!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 02/25/2009
- suzc I'm a Fan of suzc 7 fans permalink
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These are inconsistent posts. Madoff is the reason there are cries for Swiss bank transparency, since a Swiss bank has ADMITTED HELPING conceal fraud and theft and protect the thieves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 02/26/2009
- RenoSage I'm a Fan of RenoSage 21 fans permalink

This is indeed the Winter of our Discontent.

But hang in there. "It'll get worse and then it'll get better".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 02/25/2009
- dav ram58 I'm a Fan of dav ram58 14 fans permalink

Great speech and thank you Mr. President for bringing optimism back to our country. On another note, when did this standing ovation ritual start? It's as tiresome and played out as pouring Gatorade on the coach after a big win. I think these politicians watch too much Academy Awards or something. Can they get back to polite applauding while sitting. There is no need to jump up and down every time you agree with something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 02/25/2009

Agree. Awesome, inspiring -- even while telling us that we need to tighten belts and be more responsible. I LOVED his speech and came away inspired even more (and this isn't a 'race thing'.) He's a strategic thinker, a visionary -- and we are starved for ethica and effective leadership.

The GOP is surely not going to get us to a better future as the Jindal speech proved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 02/25/2009

only one problem we all know what the dunces do when confronted with genius lets hope and pray for our country that Swift was wrong and the confederacy fails to gain traction

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 02/25/2009
- MSaxe I'm a Fan of MSaxe 29 fans permalink

It looked like a synagogue on the High Holidays when they open up the Ark and everyone has to stand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 02/25/2009

Right you are. I noticed that Joe would have preferred to stay seated and get on with things, but Nancy kept bobbing up like a Jack-in-the-box.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 02/25/2009
- ltyler01 I'm a Fan of ltyler01 8 fans permalink
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Why the GOP has it all wrong!
If you listen to the pundits on the right you would believe that the Exxon’s, GE’s, Microsoft’s, Wal Mart’s, IBM’s, Home Depot’s, etc…are the ones who are responsible for building this country.
It’s citizens along with their government which lays the foundation for business to function successfully…it’s not the other way around.
We have witnessed the effects of unchecked greed and what it can do to a business, and to a society. One of many problems also is, it has also threatened the welfare of other businesses that have operated responsibly.
This is what these hard line conservatives forget, or ignore…that there is a collective connection, that ties all these elements together…people, their government and business since the last two could not exist without the first.
In a great and vast society like the United States, the people, their government, and business must work together for common good and welfare of all. And within such a society, the welfare of the people must come foremost. Without an economically healthy population the other two will also suffer.
There is excuse or defense for the behavior behind many of these companies.
We must not ever forget that it is people who have built America…always have.
Not Exxon Mobile!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 02/25/2009
- victoria38 I'm a Fan of victoria38 13 fans permalink
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ltylero1 has point..All the companies he named should be nationalized and their profits used to fund universal healthcare. Now I KNOW that's an idea all of you can get behind..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 02/25/2009
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You are not funny and very transparent to boot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 02/25/2009
- uneeda I'm a Fan of uneeda 4 fans permalink

i want a big dose of whatever you're on......likewise right now

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 02/25/2009
- victoria38 I'm a Fan of victoria38 13 fans permalink
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I think the minimum wage should go to $25/hr, right now..SS recipients should get a 100% raise, right now...Gasoline should be reduced to 1.00/gal, right now by an executive order, and unemployment ins should be made permanent for those that cannot find work...

If Obama cares about the suffering we are going thru he will make it happen tomorrow....enough of these baby steps..! We're hurting out here..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 02/25/2009
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There is absolutely no way a president can make any of that happen by decree or fiat. There's no mechanism in US law for the president to make such declarations work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 02/25/2009
- Tomhere I'm a Fan of Tomhere 4 fans permalink

She's being stupid, the republican version of sarcasm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 02/25/2009
- victoria38 I'm a Fan of victoria38 13 fans permalink
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The Dem controlled congress could certainly make it happen. What not be for it and not against it? Isn't that what you always tell the GOP?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 02/25/2009
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sorry I heard something crazy in my ear... care to repeat something that makes any sort of sense?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 02/25/2009

I think if you want to join in adult conversation, you should at least try to rise above third grade school yard logic- you even write as if you're sending a text message- "I know you are but what am I" is not really helpful. You'd be a big hit over at Team Sarah though. And if you really are 13, I apologize for being mean, but you shouldn't hate your President because of things you overhear your father say when he's mad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 02/25/2009
- victoria38 I'm a Fan of victoria38 13 fans permalink
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My point Flaming is that I do not believe we should "tiptoe" into gov't control of our entire life..We should jump in headfirst and get on with it. Why go slowly? I don't understand the logic of the left. If some gov't is good for us, then more gov't must be better for us.

So the quicker we can have the gov't sending us bigger checks the better off we'll all be. I don't know why you are opposed to that. And I would love to be 13 again. Heck even 43 again would be nice..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 02/25/2009

well if you want $25/hr minimum wage that will put millions more out of work, how would employers be able to pay for that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 02/25/2009
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Now glad, don't go logical on me. The simple answer would be they would raise prices, but then folks would have a hard time buying goods. That's always been my argument against having a min wage..

But what if we went up 1.00 per month for a year and got the wage up to about $18/hr..Do you think both employers/employees could adjust? I'm just trying to throw out ideas to get people thinking. To me that's more productive than name calling, which I get a lot of...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 02/25/2009
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Seems like people making $25 an hour would have alot more money to spend.

What's your idea, have people work for free, then employers could lower there business cost significantly.

Of course no one would have money to spend on their goods or services.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 02/25/2009

ah yes, though i wouldn't be surprised if some liberals actually do want that. Nice sarcasm there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 02/25/2009
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You are hopeless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 02/25/2009
- Roberto31 I'm a Fan of Roberto31 4 fans permalink

WITH OBAMA NOW SENDING 17,000 NEW TROOPS INTO AFGANASTAN THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX IS FLEXING ITS MUSCLE TO SHOW AMERICANS THAT NO MATTER WHAT THE CANDIDATES SAY ONCE THEY ARE IN THEY ARE RUN BY THEM. DISGUSTING. WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING IN A WAR OVER THERE??? WE SHOULD SPEND THAT MONEY ON GETTING A HYDROGEN FUEL CELL CAR GOING SO WE CAN TELL THE MIDDLE EAST WE DONT NEED YOU FOR ANYTHING SO GOOD LUCK AS THEY GO BACK TO THE 13TH CENTURY. LEAVE THEM ALONE AND DONT SEND ONE MORE YOUNG AMERICAN INTO THAT BOTTOMLESS PIT. LYNDON JOHNSON RUINED HIMSELF OVER WAR. GEORGE BUSH DID TOO AND NOW OBAMA WILL RUIN HIS CHANCE FOR REELECTION OVER A DUMB WAR. AT LEAST HE IS SHOWING THAT THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX STILL OWNS THE DEMOCRATS JUST LIKE THEY DID UNDER LYNDON JOHNSON.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 02/25/2009

If you can only type in caps.........go back to the sandbox!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 02/25/2009

Your protests against the war in Afghanistan will be more effective if you learn how to spell the name of the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 02/25/2009

The Republicans are total hypocrites. They created a massive deficit and expanded government, so, as a party, they shouldn't exist anymore. All they care about is cutting taxes for the rich and warfare (which they consider defense; it's not).

Obama gave a great speech but as Americans we need to watch what Obama and the Democrats are doing about bank bailouts -- it seems as if they're trying to confuse Americans with all of their other stimulus plans. We need to know where the money has gone to the investment banks that created this recession/depression, what the plans are to regulate them, and what American taxpayers get out of the deal.

Also, the tired excuse for fighting terrorism is not the reason we're involved in a war in Afghanistan. This could be a quagmire worse than Iraq. There's no real honesty about why we're still involved in these Middle Eastern wars. Of course, we all have our theories.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 02/25/2009
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