Volcano Monitoring: Bobby Jindal's Bold New Plan

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February 25, 2009 12:04 PM

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About everything you need to know about Bobby Jindal and all the bold, new, urban, suburban, hip-hop ideas he laid out for the American people -- WHO CAN DO ANYTHING, OKAY? -- Tuesday night is contained in this single sentence:

The stimulus, [Jindal] says, "includes $300 million to buy new cars for the government, $8 billion for high-speed rail projects, such as a 'magnetic levitation' line from Las Vegas to Disneyland, and $140 million for something called 'volcano monitoring.' Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, DC."

In the first place, GAH THIS TRAIN TO VEGAS STUFF. If you want a clear, dividing line between who on the GOP side is serious, and who is frivolous, mark down everyone pimping this "train to Vegas" line and file under frivolous. Here's why:

For one thing, if we stuck by the standard that members of congress should only agree to fund infrastructure projects located in their own districts, then obviously we'd have no infrastructure at all. This is a debate that I thought we settled in the days of Henry Clay. But beyond that there is no such [train to Vegas] provision in the bill. This, by contrast, is an accurate description of the high-speed rail provisions of the Recovery Act:
The Stimulus Plan includes two provisions modeled after the Act that finance high-speed rail development. First, the Stimulus Plan provides a $2 billion grant for high-speed rail projects that will remain available until September 30, 2011. The grant will be distributed among applicant states, interstate compacts, public agencies having responsibility for providing high-speed rail service and Amtrak for capital projects associated with inter-city passenger rail services reasonably expected to reach speeds of at least 110 miles per hour. The Secretary of Transportation will have discretion to award grants based on an extensive set of criteria, including the legal, financial and technical capacity of the applicant to carry out the project; compatibility with relevant national plans; and anticipated economic, environmental and transportation effects.

In a last-minute change, the total quantity of funds available was increased. But there's no special plan for Las Vegas. The money will be spread all across the country.

There are a million ways the stimulus package can be criticized, attacked, even spun. But the least serious way of going about it is repeating, over and over, a tired line that's already been thoroughly debunked.

Now, on to this volcano nonsense. I can't claim to know a whole lot about volcano monitoring, but it sounds pretty important. I mean, I've seen pictures of the ruins of ancient Pompeii and I can't help but think that some sort of volcano monitoring would be useful. Jindal, I guess, seems to think that there's a free market solution to this problem. So, for answers I reached out to my friend of mine, commencing a series we'll call "Ask An Anonymous Business Consultant." Anonymous Business Consultant writes:

First of all, I LOVE Bobby Jindal. He has this way of making entirely ordinary things sound like they're from the FUTURE! "Magnetic Levitation!" "Volcano Monitoring!" Um, dude...mag-lev is a pretty well-established phenomenon. I mean, you can do it with your refrigerator magnets!


Secondly, suffice it to say that Mr. Jindal clearly believes that the citizens of Oregon or Alaska should each, individually, invest in ground-monitoring equipment to protect their property (which for most people is worth far less than the cost of such equipment). They should in no way coordinate their purchase in order to provide mutual protection at a reasonable cost to each. And God forbid, they should not coordinate it through a democratically elected mechanism, or "government" of any kind.

Ideally, a successful private company would emerge to serve people's needs. Its business model would involve a lot of marketing and PR money being spent - "Is Volcano Monitoring Right for You, or Do You Hate Your Loved Ones!?!" -- and a crazy-huge bonus for the brilliant volcano-monitoring executive thanks in part to skimping on R&D. Then, when an actual volcano hit, the system wouldn't work, the company would declare bankruptcy (volcano-monitoring companies aren't yet effective enough lobbyists to get a bailout), and the executive would be forced to "spend more time with his family" while living only on the $100 million he had already made -- plus another $30 million or so in severance.

THAT is how America is supposed to work. We reward entrepreneurs! OK, so the exec is a Harvard MBA who spent his career in investment banking and never started anything or participated in the productive economy in his life -- we reward them too!



Anyway, if you want a serious answer, he says "just look up 'public goods' on Wikipedia." The end.

About everything you need to know about Bobby Jindal and all the bold, new, urban, suburban, hip-hop ideas he laid out for the American people -- WHO CAN DO ANYTHING, OKAY? -- Tuesday night is contain...
About everything you need to know about Bobby Jindal and all the bold, new, urban, suburban, hip-hop ideas he laid out for the American people -- WHO CAN DO ANYTHING, OKAY? -- Tuesday night is contain...
 
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If ever there was a poster boy tailor-made for the self destructive frenzy that is the Republican Party, Piyush "Bobby" Jindal certainly fills the bill. Hearing him blather on with a third-rate Mr. Rogers delivery about the evils of government was somewhat akin to listening to a rapist pontificate on the virtues of chastity. Has the talent pool for the GOP become so shallow? No wonder that India's economy so vastly improved over the past fifteen years. He left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 AM on 03/02/2009

Can't someone use a time machine and move Jindal back to where he belongs - in the 50s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 03/02/2009
- BethStuart I'm a Fan of BethStuart 13 fans permalink

I just saw a 60 minutes segment on Bobby Jindal. It stated Jindal was in favor of teaching intelligent design (aka creationism) in the public schools. I have the same question about Jindal that I had about George W. Bush. Did any of that education stick?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 03/01/2009
- sonwinks I'm a Fan of sonwinks 7 fans permalink

I have not personally seen Bobby Jindal's "science" certificate, so I can not confirm if actually is a "scientist"!
I think until Bobby puts his certificate on his website, we have every right to question his knowledge on this matter....actually even after he posts his "certificate" on his website, I think we should continue to question it!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 03/01/2009

My question is, Are there any people FROM Louisiana or New Orleans on this site that are offended by what Jindal said, considering all the circumstances. I'm not from New Orleans, but I have friends there and know a lot of people who spent months and years working to help rebuild communities affected. I cannot imagine what it must be like to have been someone impacted by Katrina (and the failures of preventing the damage) and then hear the governor say that research into natural disasters is 'whatever'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 03/01/2009
- fireW I'm a Fan of fireW 15 fans permalink
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The latest repub "rising star" a monument to ignorance (as well as a liar)? Inconceivable . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 03/01/2009
- Zen0469 I'm a Fan of Zen0469 71 fans permalink
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I would consider Bobby Jindal sitting atop an exploding volcano a highly positive development in the science of monitoring volcanoes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 02/28/2009
- helmboy I'm a Fan of helmboy 3 fans permalink

as an alaskan living in close proximity with four active volcanoes - augustine, iliamna, redoubt and spur- i concur.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 AM on 03/01/2009
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So let's pull out the army corp of engineers from LA.
Give back the money for rebuilding levee's, homes, roads.
And there will be no more studies, scientists, and/or meteorologists allowed in New Orleans!
And you unemployed residents of LA are SCREWED!
Yeah vote him into office again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 03/01/2009
- dollbaby I'm a Fan of dollbaby 5 fans permalink
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Can't do that.....Bobby and his rich freinds have enough money and resources to get the H E L L out of Wisianna before the storm hits. The only ones hurt will me the poor, disabled, and middle class homeowners who insurance companies will screw. The governor's mansion will be cleaned and repaired on tax payer money, no cost for Jindal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 03/01/2009
- Bluesue I'm a Fan of Bluesue 21 fans permalink

Guess what Jindal wants to build in Louisiana with stimulus money (you really can't make this stuff up. The Republicans are turning out to be Comedy Central)

From NOLA.com

Louisiana to seek New Orleans-Baton Rouge passenger rail line from federal stimulus pot that Jindal called wasteful

BATON ROUGE - Louisiana's transportation department plans to request federal dollars for a New Orleans to Baton Rouge passenger rail service from the same pot of railroad money in the president's economic stimulus package that Gov. Bobby Jindal criticized as unnecessary pork on national television Tuesday night.

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2009/02/louisiana_to_seek_new_orleansb.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 02/28/2009
- j.gold I'm a Fan of j.gold 4 fans permalink

As if we didn't have enough problems down here now we have the Bobby embarrassment. I just want to say that many of us didn't vote for him and his winning was just a backlash to Katrina and Blanco.

Recall Jindal!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 02/28/2009

A bit lost in the "volcano controversy" is what the recovery act actually says.
------ For an additional amount for ‘‘Surveys, Investigations, and Research’’, $140,000,000, for repair, construction and restoration of facilities; equipment replacement and upgrades including stream gages, and seismic and volcano monitoring systems; national map activities; and other critical deferred maintenance and improvement projects. -----
In other words, the appropriation upgrades and expands an entire spectrum of USGS monitoring systems. Ironically in Jindal case, including stream level monitoring that predicts and warns of flood crests - maybe a little money to fix those up might be ok, eh Bobby? Picking out the one word "Volcano" is cynical to say the least: he assumes nobody will actually browse the text of HR1. The posts here in his space seem to be desperate to establish that volcano monitoring is a legitimate public good, rather than taking Bobby to task for totally misrepresented the appropriation. I fear Bobby is correct in his assumption: "nobody will check, so say whatever I feel like."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 02/28/2009
- Martha12 I'm a Fan of Martha12 87 fans permalink
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Just like his Katrina lie, got caught on both. Typical republican, typical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 02/28/2009
- Bluesue I'm a Fan of Bluesue 21 fans permalink

Anchorage Daily News has a video tour of the Alaska Volcano Observatory. They monitor 42 active volcanos in Alaska. Jindal should have viewed this.

http://community.adn.com/mini_apps/vmix/player.php?ID=3196920&GID=

Perhaps we should be rethinking money for something called levees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 02/28/2009

If Jindal keeps insisting that the unemployed should continue to suffer on their own then he likely won't pose any problems down the road as the people will take care of him and his days as governor are limited.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 02/28/2009
- LMPE I'm a Fan of LMPE 60 fans permalink

You can't expect Bubba Jindal to be that well informed about volcanoes. They don't have any - of which I know - in Louisiana. In the Pacific Northwest, we of course have Mt. St. Helens.

But the point is, Jindal is probably the best example of southern Rethuglicans (along with George W. Bush).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 AM on 02/28/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 128 fans permalink
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Not at all amazing that a republican has no clue of what they speak of. If they did, they wouldnt be republicans

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 02/28/2009
- offred I'm a Fan of offred 45 fans permalink

SHOW ME BOBBY JINDAL'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 02/27/2009
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Exactly. The more he opens his mouth, the more I am beginning to believe him being selected as a Rhodes Scholar is questionable -- at least through the process of selection.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 02/27/2009

The Rethugs have seen Obama's birth certificate and still accuse him of having been born in Africa. Therefore, even if I see Jindal's birth certificate, I will accuse him of having been born in a hut in India.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 02/28/2009
- imsosure I'm a Fan of imsosure 26 fans permalink
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Jindal Doesn't Know What He's Talking About: Scientists

What an understatement, if he'd even tried to get educated about the subject before he ran off with his subjective opinion he may have found some credibility but the way he approached it, there's none.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 02/27/2009
- andyg I'm a Fan of andyg 5 fans permalink

He a Rhodes Scholar are you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 02/28/2009
- davispty5 I'm a Fan of davispty5 29 fans permalink
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"He a Rhodes Scholar ... " and your point is?

Just because he's a Rhodes Scholar doesn't mean he's right about this issue. You'd think someone with that kind of education would take the time to do some research on the subject before just shooting off at the mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 02/28/2009
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"He a Rhodes Scholar are you?"

Well, certainly not you. I don't usually act like the grammar police. However, if you are going to blog on this site and challenge other people's intelligence, you can at least use correct grammar. I believe the correct form is the following:

He's a Rhodes Scholar. Are you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 AM on 02/28/2009
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No I be a attorney

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 02/28/2009
- Bompa I'm a Fan of Bompa 7 fans permalink
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I know , as I am sure others do, lots of "smart people" that have no practical smarts at all... thay cannot find their way out of a paper bag without a set of instructions...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 02/28/2009

Obama a Constitutional scholar are you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 02/28/2009
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