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AIG To Get New $30 Billion Bailout

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IEVA M. AUGSTUMS   03/ 1/09 09:19 PM ET   AP

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Struggling insurer American International Group Inc. will receive up to $30 billion in additional federal assistance in the fourth government rescue of the company, people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press on Sunday.

The new infusion is intended to prop up AIG _ once the world's largest insurer _ as it is expected to announce $60 billion in quarterly losses early Monday, a person said on the condition of anonymity because the discussions are still ongoing.

The company, which is considered too large to be allowed to fail, previously received about $150 billion in loans from the government, which currently holds an 80 percent stake in the company.

Under the new deal, the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Reserve would provide about $30 billion in fresh capital to AIG from the government's Troubled Assets Relief Program, or TARP. The money would be provided as a standby line of equity that AIG could tap as its losses mount, the person said.

AIG has already received $40 billion from TARP.

The new plan also calls for the Federal Reserve to take stakes in two international units, the person said.

Instead of paying back $38 billion in cash with interest that it has used from a Federal Reserve credit line, AIG now will repay that amount with equity stakes in Asia-based American International Assurance Co. and American Life Insurance Co., which operates in 50 countries.

The $20 billion to $25 billion remaining on the Federal Reserve credit line will be available for borrowing, the person said.

In order to strengthen the company, AIG also plans to combine its U.S. and foreign property-casualty insurance operations into a new unit, with a new name and separate management, the person said. About 20 percent of the property-casualty business would be taken public.

To further reduce its debt, AIG will turn $5 billion to $10 billion worth of debt into new securities backed by life insurance assets.

The decision to approve a third revision of the AIG bailout is a continued bet by the federal government that there would be even greater risk to letting AIG fail, a person familiar with the Treasury's decision told The Associated Press on Sunday.

Federal officials feared that a bankruptcy of AIG could be disastrous for the global economy, which is in worse shape than it was six months ago, the person said, requesting not to be named because the talks are ongoing. Talk of the new rescue package has been going on for several weeks, as the Treasury gained insight of AIG's quarterly performance, the person added.

AIG spokesman Nick Ashooh declined to comment on the rescue package. The Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which is handling the government loan, did not return requests for comment Sunday evening. Treasury Department spokesman Isaac Baker also declined to comment.

The company's board met Sunday to vote on the revised bailout plan.

Major credit rating agencies have already signed off on the deal, according to media reports. Without the support of the credit rating agencies, AIG would have faced crippling cuts to its ratings.

AIG has been forced to seek more help in part because of the ongoing recession and its falling stock price, now well under $1. Among its biggest problems: It can't sell assets to pay back government loans because the credit crisis is preventing would-be buyers from getting financing to complete such deals.

As of Feb. 13, AIG had sold interests in nine businesses.

In November, the U.S. government restructured previous loans provided to AIG, giving the company about $150 billion in total as part of a rescue package to help the insurer remain in business amid the worsening credit crisis. That package replaced earlier loans, including the original $85 billion lent in September, after it became apparent the insurer needed more funds.

Problems at AIG did not come from its traditional insurance operations, but instead from its financial services units, and primarily its business insuring mortgage-backed securities and other risky debt against default.

Shares of AIG closed at 42 cents on Friday. The stock, which traded at $49.50 a year ago, has lost nearly all of its value since the market meltdown began in September.

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02:23 PM on 03/10/2009
gee...gimme more money so I can pay you back what I owe you...
sounds like classic definition of a Ponzi scheme...
d'ya think Bernie M might have a coupla spare bedrooms in his "prison"??
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Star2000dancer
Pay it forward, the movie..
04:36 PM on 03/03/2009
No Obama, NO! You promised you'd listen to the people, not congress!
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Star2000dancer
Pay it forward, the movie..
04:19 PM on 03/03/2009
Muslims use cash, & do'nt charge interest. Our money is counterfit, we need to eliminate banks, not keep them. We are losing control of America, and looks like it's on purpose. What the heck is going on??
04:14 PM on 03/03/2009
"Struggling AIG getting more???
I don't see anybody at AIG struggling with a damn thing.
Except getting their greasy paws on more windfall bucks.

That's what they do.....that's ALL they do.
03:12 PM on 03/03/2009
Gimmee more, more more.....

Moral of story....

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Wonder if anybody is being accountable in this "transparent" fiasco....
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Star2000dancer
Pay it forward, the movie..
03:41 PM on 03/03/2009
NO! NO! NO! What would happen if if an earthquake hit, or terrorists, or a meteor, hurrican tsunami,what would happen? Would we miss it? I wish the Clinton's were handling this. Too many mistakes. too much dependence on Pelosi & people who are clueless & crooked.
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Star2000dancer
Pay it forward, the movie..
04:12 PM on 03/03/2009
Bamks should be eliminated. We owe them nothing for the confederat money they gave us. Save your gold & silver & tell the banks to shove it. We can start our own banks with real value, & no inhterest. This works!
09:50 AM on 03/03/2009
Gee, I wonder how many hookers and coke dealers will be 'stimulated' by this latest 'bailout'. At least part of the economy is feeling the love...
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Star2000dancer
Pay it forward, the movie..
03:59 PM on 03/03/2009
everyone should read that link.that's posted. I tried to paste the article, but could'nt
07:38 AM on 03/03/2009
Restore consomer confidence and have AIG execs swing from the gallows! They will not be missed.
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
10:03 PM on 03/02/2009
TAXPAYER gets it SHORT END of the STICK again!
07:28 PM on 03/02/2009
Read about the Bankers Versus the Lincoln.

http://jimbernard.org/gpage16.html

FDR faced an even worse situation and he solved it, till the bankers took it apart again.

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2007/3414fdr_housing.html

Here's the whole ugly history of Banksters.
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Star2000dancer
Pay it forward, the movie..
04:07 PM on 03/03/2009
You all must read these links. It's the same patern over & over, except this is the 1st wars the people had to pat for. War is the play for the rich, we are just to die for them, just like Roman days.
04:10 PM on 03/02/2009
I do not fully understand why bail out money isn't buying newly issued common stack at par or cmv or better. Better yet, the money should be used to create new institutions to fill the void and place the responsibility on the failed banks. It seems we are doing too much for existing share holders, and while Nader is correct that shareholders have generally lost control of the corporations, it seems fairer to let those shareholders battle it out than for taxpayers to prop them up. What has failed is socialism for the bigs. What needs strengthening is our CommonWealth. The current posture is to use that Common Wealth to bail out the bigs.
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
04:13 PM on 03/02/2009
YES! That is the QUESTION!

We are Bailing Out the Management that RUINED the COMPANY! WHY?

AIG sells at $0.45 per share and taxpayers should own them!
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
04:01 PM on 03/02/2009
Banks and Hedge Funds knew that "SURE FAIL" mortgages were being made to poor Americans because the Banks were doing it through their own companies!

Since they knew these mortgages would "FAIL" these same Banks and Hedge Funds placed Repeated Casino Bets on that FAILURE. It was a "SURE THING" much like INSIDER TRADING and Billions were to be made! One Hedge Fund Manager pocketed $3.7 Billion in one year!

The Casino Betting was done using Credit Default Swaps (CDS) offered by AIG!

AIG is continuing downward despite $100+ Billion Bailouts because of this Casino Scam!

The solution is to declare these Bets illegal due to insider information, and make them NULL and VOID. As it is the Taxpayer is continuing to pay off these bets to the corrupt Hedge Funds and Banks!
12:34 PM on 03/02/2009
All of a sudden, we're paying all this money to an insurance company and we're getting no insurance in return?

So, what's new?
11:23 AM on 03/02/2009
The people who are appointed and or elected to run our country, should be required to take an IQ test, along with some developed common sense test.
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Vinca
11:39 AM on 03/02/2009
THIS IS SOMEWHAT, OFF TOPIC< BUT HOW CAN WE GIVE MONEY TO OTHER COUNTRIES, AS HILLARY, PLANS, WHEN WE HAVE TO BORROW FROM CHINA, AND OTHER COUNTRIES?
01:06 PM on 03/02/2009
You're right on Topic Vinca. We should stop giving any other countries money AND AIG has screwed themselves, just like some of the other homeowners who signed mortgages for homes they couldn't afford. Obama said that the mortgage bailout wouldn't help irresponsible homeowners, so why are WE helping irresponsible companies? I would rahter help the irresponsible homeowners frankly, it's cheaper, dam n it. No more money for these companies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:09 AM on 03/02/2009
AIG insured trillions in credit swaps.

as the mortgage markets suffer, the losses will continue to mount.

will you throw a trillion dollars at this problem?
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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
10:32 AM on 03/02/2009
AIG's credit default swaps market, due to some netting, is now somewhere north of $30 trillion (as opposed to its earlier "north of $60 trillion" level). Investment banks were believed to have hedged most of their exposure via offsetting contracts, but AIG wrote naked protection. And as jAIG itself is at risk of getting downgraded again, the collateral posting requirements keep rising.

Some analysts have offered theories as to how the government could void a lot of CDS (some have argued for getting rid of them altogether, others argue for eliminating them in cases where the protection buyer does not hold the underlying bond/exposure). Before you say, "they can't do that", recall the effective confiscation of gold in the Great Depression. rationing, wage and price controls, the suspension of habeus corpus. There is a good deal that the Feds could do if they chose to. But it's easier to bill the poor chump taxpayer than take on the financiers, even after they've done so much damage.

Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Societe Generale SA, Deutsche Bank AG and Merrill Lynch & Co. are among the largest banks that bought swaps from AIG, according to a person familiar with the situation. The insurer handed over about $18.7 billion to financial firms in the three weeks after the September bailout, said the person, who declined to be named because the information hasn’t been made public.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/03/black-hole-alert-aig-to-get-as-much-as.html
Viper
Former repub, still repenting
03:05 PM on 03/02/2009
In otherwords.... you simply by letting them default because the investments held by banks in American homes are becoming worhless...... banks end up with less money... and their bailout increases...

You just spread the loss out... the loss is the same.

Regards
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
03:47 PM on 03/02/2009
VOID all CDS as they were done using a form of "INSIDER INFORMATION" by the Banksters and Hedge Funds who knew the Housing Hyper-Inflation Pyramid/Ponzi Scheme was creating "SURE FAIL" mortgages used in the Derivatives that offered a perfect opportunity to place multiple bets that the same contracts would FAIL.

If anything these people should be investigated not rewarded in this CRISIS that is making Hedge Fund Managers Richer at the expense of American Taxpayers.

In SHORT declare these CDS contracts Null and VOID due to fraud of insider trading!
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dbg2
09:52 AM on 03/02/2009
Can you say credit default swaps.

"Problems at AIG did not come from its traditional insurance operations, but instead from its financial services units, and primarily its business insuring mortgage-backed securities and other risky debt against default."

Pay the betters (Goldman Sachs) back their bet (just the bet not the payout) and let AG disappear
Someone is really getting rich on these 20 to 1 bets.
CD swaps were a felony for almost 100 years, some old ideas are really good ideas.

The truth... the total amount of money in mortgage defaults is about 5% of the problem.
Viper
Former repub, still repenting
09:57 AM on 03/02/2009
The default rate on Mortgages is now at close to ten percent.. but that has poisoned the whole basket or barrel if you will and thus they are only traded at 10% of face... Mortgage backed securities are this 90% of the problem. These securities were rated AAA, the most secure.

The bet banking made was on Americans.. who took the money, had a good time and cant pay it back... Every loan is a bet. If no one is making that bet you have a depression.. like now. That has now spread to use defaulting on credit card debt and auto loans..

Regards
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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
10:35 AM on 03/02/2009
WHY BAILOUT AIG'S BONDHOLDERS? Bond investors have already taken enormous mark-to-market losses on their AIG paper; if they realized just a fraction of those losses, that would provide AIG with a huge proportion of its needed capital right there. Instead, it seems that they're being bailed out. AIG has about $190 billion in debt outstanding, which has a market value of about $65 billion. So conceptually it should be possible for someone to buy that debt for $100 billion, forgive the $75 billion of new capital that AIG needs, and still end up $15 billion ahead. AIG would be solvent again since its liabilities would have shrunk by $75 billion; its bond investors would make a mark-to-market profit of 50% on where their bonds are trading right now; and the white knight with the $100 billion would make a tidy profit to boot, so long as the remaining bonds were worth more than 87 cents on the dollar, which they would be. Instead, the proposed bailout, far from reducing AIG's liabilities, seems to comprise increasing them by another $85 billion. It also seems to leave all existing bondholders with a haircut of precisely zero -- effectively trebling the value of their bonds overnight.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/95808-why-bail-out-aig-s-bondholders
11:50 AM on 03/02/2009
Wow, VIper, I don't know where you're getting your info from...
NYTimes re: AIG: "But one division, its 'financial practices' unit in London, was filled with go-go financial wizards who devised new and clever ways of taking advantage of Wall Street’s insatiable appetite for mortgage-backed securities. Unlike many of the Wall Street investment banks, A.I.G. didn’t specialize in pooling subprime mortgages into securities. Instead, it sold credit-default swaps." ("Propping Up a House of Cards," Feb. 27) http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/28/business/28nocera.html?ref=business
Repeat: The problem is with AIG for coming up with this scheme, and with the banks that bought these CDSs from AIG. Consequently...
...I'm with Carolab. Why in the world should we be putting $$$ in to feed to the banks and the shareholders who knowingly took part in this sleight-of-hand scheme?
P.S. I'd be interested - please show us exactly who pockets this taxpayer $$$ that AIG is now gonna pay out to "honor" those swaps? I'm talking specifics here. Not interested in knowing the dough is going to Goldman-Sachs. So once it reaches Goldman, where does it go then?
The best, Viper.
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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
10:35 AM on 03/02/2009
If the credit default swaps are at the core of what is preventing bank restructuring, there seems an obvious step to take — requiring the holders of all credit default swaps to bring them to a central clearinghouse, where issuers would be required to provide acceptable capital reserves or to immediately settle with holders under government supervision. Others have discussed in detail how this might be done. Why is the government not even mentioning in public "restructuring" the CDS market? These are not going to go away without government action. They are almost certainly going to detonate at some point, but only after taxpayers have sunk possibly trillions more into a fruitless attempt to stave off the inevitable.

http://roylat.com/2009/03/why-is-the-government-refusing-to-restructure-banks/

So the plan goes like this: seize the banks, open the books, write off the toxic assets, shareholders take their loss, fire all of the executives, board and plain start over. This is not a permanent take over, it's more of the nation goes to the bank junk yard, throws out all of the non-working parts, cleans the bank up, kicks out the bums who created the mess and then sells the new shiny bank at auction, otherwise known as re-privatization. Economist Roubini is making all of the talk show rounds calling for nationalization. The thing is, other experts are reaching this consensus.

http://www.economicpopulist.org/?q=content/what-nationalization-and-why-everyone-afraid-it
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
04:02 PM on 03/02/2009
Banks and Hedge Funds knew that "SURE FAIL" mortgages were being made to poor Americans because the Banks were doing it through their own companies!

Since they knew these mortgages would "FAIL" these same Banks and Hedge Funds placed Repeated Casino Bets on that FAILURE. It was a "SURE THING" much like INSIDER TRADING and Billions were to be made! One Hedge Fund Manager pocketed $3.7 Billion in one year!

The Casino Betting was done using Credit Default Swaps (CDS) offered by AIG!

AIG is continuing downward despite $100+ Billion Bailouts because of this Casino Scam!

The solution is to declare these Bets illegal due to insider information, and make them NULL and VOID. As it is the Taxpayer is continuing to pay off these bets to the corrupt Hedge Funds and Banks!
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04:32 PM on 03/02/2009
Carolab, you basically described bankruptcy court. That is what needs to happen here. That is how private capital can flow into this mess and determine what needs fixing, otherwise we will just be going further into debt, making the country weaker.....all the way up until the inevitable collapse. I say let's take the collapse now, rather than go further into debt. We can rebuild that way a lot quicker.