The Lion Roars Once More: Kennedy Makes Emotional Pitch For Health Care Reform

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A day that was designed to produce conversation and cohesion on reforming the health care system ended with an emotional pitch.

President Barack Obama, concluding a summit with leaders from Congress, the non-profit world, the medical and the insurance industries, entered the closing session at the East Room of the White House with a guest by his side.

"Ladies and gentlemen," the voiced boomed over the loudspeaker, "the president of the United States accompanied by Senator Ted Kennedy."

The crowd of roughly 150 guests jumped to its feet in approval. Suffering from brain cancer and confined, largely, to a home in Florida, the Liberal Lion's mere presence in the Washington struck an emotional chord. Kennedy didn't disappoint. Introduced by the president as "Sir Edward Kennedy" - an ode to the knighting the Senator recently received from the Queen of England - the long-time health care champion waxed optimistically about this moment in history.

"I join with all of those who feel that this is the time, now is the time for action," he said. "I think most of us who have been in this room before have seen other times when the House and the senate have made efforts. But they haven't been the kind of serious effort that we are seeing right now. If you look over his gathering here today you see the representatives of all the different groups that we have met with over the period of years...That has not been the case over the history of the past going all the way back to Harry Truman time. But it is the case now. And it is I think a tribute to your leadership in bringing all these people together."

Another applause ensued. Kennedy, looking thinner than in the past, his hair still full and gray, sat to the president's left as other officials were called upon to speak. Several offered tributes to the Massachusetts Democrat.

"Senator Kennedy will not be a foot soldier in this battle," said Rep. Henry Waxman. "He has been an inspiration for all of use."

"To Sen. Kennedy," Rep. Charlie Rangel later declared, "this has been a fantastic day."

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The emotions of the moment were only mildly interrupted by the business at hand. Obama declined to get into the specifics of the health care debate, choosing instead to frame the day as the launching pad for a wide-ranging discussion. But he did lay down some markers on where the topic would go. There would be, he noted, some things that even "Newt Gingrich and Ted Kennedy" could agree on. And then there would need to be sacrifices on the progressive and conservative fronts.

"To all your liberal bleeding hearts out there, don't think that we can solve this problem without tackling costs. And that may make some on the progressive community uncomfortable," said Obama. "On the flip side, I say to those who are obsessed with costs, and this goes to the issue of Medicare and Medicaid reform as well, I don't think that as a bottom line as a means of protecting costs it means you can throw seniors off Medicare, for example."

A day that was designed to produce conversation and cohesion on reforming the health care system ended with an emotional pitch. President Barack Obama, concluding a summit with leaders from Congress,...
A day that was designed to produce conversation and cohesion on reforming the health care system ended with an emotional pitch. President Barack Obama, concluding a summit with leaders from Congress,...
 
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This is disgusting.
The whole group from Obama down stands around like the health care issue is so scary, bigger than they are. Like the health care industry is some monster bigger than the President, the government and all of us.

What?

They REFUSE to even say "not-for-p­rofit-sing­le-payer-u­niversal health care"

WHO insists and allows the for-profit HMOs and drug cos to even have a say here?

We want health care-they want profits.

How simple can this be?

HR 676 or something that CHANGES the landscape please.

Timidity, or worse a hand in the profits?

I am sick of this. And I'm not going to take this anymore.

If we end up with a new system that still costs any of us a penny, I'm ready to storm Pennsylvania Avenue with torches and pitchforks. You?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 03/09/2009

Oh and all those politicians...
WHAT coverage do THEY have?
WHO pays for it?
It's called government health care..ll those congressional, senatorial naysayers..THEY get federal coverage.

Where was Dennis Kucinich? Obama didn't want him there obviously..he would have turned this rightly on its ear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 03/09/2009
- bogues I'm a Fan of bogues 41 fans permalink

I watched this healthcare summit and it was the most inlightening thing I have seen in a long time. It gave me knew hope and a sense that President Obama can do more to move our country forward than some people are giving him credit for. I loved listening to these people talk and share their ideas. That really is what it is going to take and our new President has the kind of intellect and vision to help make it happen. Those who fear universal healthcare have apparently bought into the negative mis-representation of the concept.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 03/07/2009
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Why is it that nationalized healthcare works in other countries and it's thought that it can't work here ?
By the way I lived in Europe as a single person and had the same health provisions as families.

Of course the Pharmaceutical companies are gonna fight they don't 'want to lose their gravy train!
It's a sad commentary that so many people in this country don't have health care coverage because of the astronomical costs!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 03/07/2009

I also lived with National Healthcare for several years and I share your bafflement at this defeatist notion that we can't do it here. I also don't understand the scare tactics being used by the health care profiteers. Well, I understand them as the outright lies and scam they are trying to foist on the American public.

I never saw the streets littered with Europeans who were sick and dying because National Healthcare was inadequate. When I spend time there today I still don't see that problem. I hear about the same complaints for waits as I hear from Americans complaining about HMOs and referral waits. I've never heard from someone on National Healthcare that someone had an issue with refusal of coverage for anything. I've also never heard of a family being bankrupted by the cost of healthcare the way we're destroying people's lives and retirements with the cost of private healthcare here.

Europeans, on the whole, are healthier than Americans and they have better healthcare. We can do that here too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 03/07/2009
- lysistrata I'm a Fan of lysistrata 18 fans permalink

What is more important to us as a nation, affordable health care for all or the highest profit possible for the insurance and pharmaceutical industries???

Obviously the Republican motive is unrestrained profits, the only thing that counts by these people. They do cloak it in the ideals of capitalism and all the ditto heads fall for it because they know no better. They don't know what socialism is and are against it because the Republicans tell them so. They really believe the insurance industry has their welfare in mind and not their own profits.

We have MEDICARE part D only because it was profitable for the industries and provides crumbs to the people. The crumbs allowed the Republicans to claim it is all for the benefit of the people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 03/07/2009

Not to be continued below ....as I cannot find the right buttons, but it can stand alone as well.

We are talking about an area where people have no real chance to choose either the quality nor the necessity of diagnostics and procedures nor can they really judge the price and shop around freely, nor can they, with the exception of some few lifestyle decisions choose to be healthy or not. An area where people have too few choices should not be an area of excessive exploitation by payors and some providers alike (not all providers).
I consider that unethical, cruel and stupid.
It does have far reaching consequences. Any serious attempt at reforms will not be easy. Cutting off the propaganda (sozalised medicine, nationalised healthcare and such buzzwords) would be a first stept to cut through the fog of disinformation. In the end you would all be better off and those who will fight vigurously to defend the right to exploit sick people, will find areas to compensate for that financial loss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 AM on 03/07/2009
- cleffnote I'm a Fan of cleffnote 5 fans permalink
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Why is the administration not speaking more about single payer healthcare like what they have in the rest of the world. If we truly want to change, and help our economy and our citizens we should be screaming for single payer healthcare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 03/06/2009

Because the insurance companies want to keep making billion dollar profits and their CEOs want to continue making tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars a year.

The insurance companies want a system whereby the public will be forced to buy over-priced policies from private insurers, just like Medicare Part D where Medicare has to pay whatever prices the drug companies want to charge.

Obama left the door open for a "public" insurance alternative (Republican Sen. Grassley stood up to oppose it), but the pols who are on the insurance company payroll will fight to the end to keep out a public alternative because they know that it will lead to the end of their gravy train.

59% of the public now wants single payer. Everyone needs to write his or her congressman demanding single payer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 03/06/2009
- lj9283 I'm a Fan of lj9283 67 fans permalink
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Other than Taiwan, and Canada what other countries have single payer Health Coverage?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 03/06/2009

The rest of the world does not have single payor systems. Only the UK and Canada come close to that. Most others have multiple payors and multiple providers, each country has a different structure and they all work not all the same and each with their own difficulties, but many work much better than the US system (same or better results for three thirds or half the total price).
As a European who has worked in responsible positions in quite a number of different countries on the provider side, and has also done enough international comparisons for the payors, I am again and again amazed about the finger pointing towards the UK and Canada, usually in the attempt to show a bad example. I do not consider either system very good (although not as bad as interested parties want you to percieve them) nor achievable for the US. There are plenty of good solutions out there, the Swiss or German model have their advantages and would to some extend be feasable for the US. They leave enough freedom for private enterprize and high quality and unlimited service for those who can afford it, but also make sure that everyone is covered for anything no frills but enough care from a medical point of view. As some other models from other countries do (choose, you got 20 at least to and learn from that all make sense and deliver good care). To be continued below....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 AM on 03/07/2009

I'm not sure that's our best option, although it's attractive for obvious reasons.

First of all - we have a gigantic healthcare industry that currently provides services to hundreds of millions of Americans. You cannot simply "undo" that in a day, or a year, or maybe even ten years. Why not modify it and use it to deliver the care we need?

Also, in looking at healthcare models around the world - there are many to choose from that work well. I think the UK and Canadian plans are good, but the Swiss and German plans (utilizing both private and public sectors) are also good and the French have probably the finest healthcare in the world. We have to look at what will actually serve our people well, not cling to an idea regardless of whether it is the best workable solution.

I had my doubts about the the combination of governmental and private healthcare but the more I look into around the world the more I see that it can work. If, over time, we determine that single-payer is the way to go for our country then we can ease off on the private and ease into a completely government funded healthcare system.

The goal is to make sure every American is covered and receiving good quality healthcare. The first step is a combo plan. We'll see where we need to go from there but let's at least get this piece done before we start whining about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 03/07/2009
- Dukedraven I'm a Fan of Dukedraven 18 fans permalink
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It's a pleasure to listen to a president who speaks well, displays intelligence and calm. And it's nice to see Senator Kennedy looking so healthy and strong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 03/06/2009
- fleaba I'm a Fan of fleaba 10 fans permalink

Self employed end up paying over 10K a year for their family health care with huge deductables.
What are they going to do, throw us in jail because we can't afford healthcare due to a universal mandate. Total BS. I'm sure the cutoff for govt healthcare will be something ridiculous ike a family o 9 making 24K a year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 03/06/2009
- EyeDoc007 I'm a Fan of EyeDoc007 5 fans permalink
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Quite the contrary, it will probably be something ridiculous like a couple with two kids making $130,000 a year is eligible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 03/06/2009
- ps89 I'm a Fan of ps89 permalink

What is so ridiculous about that? Have you looked at your grocery bill lately?
But that is beside the point. None of us, rich, or poor or middle should have to pay any of our money to health "insurers". We need single payer in this country. Every nation who has it pays less per person than we do. And I don't want to hear the lame arguments about wait times and lack of choice. With the best "insurance", I still have wait times and lack of choice.
Health care should not be for the profit of insurers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 03/06/2009
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Here in British Columbia, we pay $53 dollars (Canadian) a month for our healthcare. If you demonstrate that you can't pay, your premium is paid for you. No one loses his home and possessions when a catastrophic medical emergency hits. it's the same in every province through a combination of premiums or moderately increases taxes on very large incomes.

When I moved here from Ontario, I received a notice from the provincial government that having everyone covered for medical care was priority one. None of this "I've got mine. Tough for you." It's to the advantage of society that everyone has coverage.

Why are you so afraid down there south of the border? And yes, I lived for thirty years in the US. My father had gold-plated coverage. But the red tape and paperwork increased the costs five-fold.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 03/06/2009
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Americans need to hear more experiences like yours from ordinary Canadians. Could you write more of your experiences in getting timely treatments. To convince these right wingers they need to know they will have access because they hear all the tales from the conservative pundits that they will have to wait months to see a doctor. Thanks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 03/06/2009
- ps89 I'm a Fan of ps89 permalink

Thank you for posting this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 03/06/2009

Thanks for telling us the truth. Why don't we have a good system like yours? Because Joe the Plumber believes the insurance company propaganda that Canadians die waiting in long lines for substandard care. The insurance companies make billions of dollars of profits each year from our present non-system, and they will fight to the end to keep that money rolling in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 03/06/2009

I don't see any worship in having prominent democratic figures like Ted Kennedy support the Healthcare program that millions of Americans have been so desperately waiting for.
Thanks Ted!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 03/06/2009


Progressive celebrity worship, though Ted has arguably made more of himeslf (despite his attrocious start) than his brother Jack. Had he lived, I very much dobut he would be revered as he is, particlularly by progressives. True he was responsive on civil rights, but wrong on almost everything else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 03/06/2009
- frantaylor I'm a Fan of frantaylor 22 fans permalink

"wrong on almost everything else"

Don't you just love throwing out inflammatory statements that have NOTHING to do with the subject? Do you stand in front of the mirror and admire yourself? Do you say things because you like the sound of your own voice?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 03/06/2009
- happycat I'm a Fan of happycat 113 fans permalink
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It's amazing how wrong you have it regarding Senator Kennedy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 03/06/2009


I may have been unclear. I meant Ted is better than Jack. Jack was the one I was saying was wrong on eveything else. If it matters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 03/06/2009
- rbrinega I'm a Fan of rbrinega 9 fans permalink
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Is commentator101 the class you're taking from the Ruch Limbaugh charm school? How about commenting on what you believe need be done for health care?

I'm in favor of single payer, Canadian-style health care. I understand that will not happen (at least this year). Additionally, I have loved ones who are in very precarious healthcare situations because they have no insurance coverage because they are self-employed or working for small businesses in our small town in NC. So, I'd be happy if we had a slightly stupid, somewhat over-priced system which provided universal availability of insurance at relatively affordable prices even for folks with pre-existing conditions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 03/06/2009

How do you get through life being so boorish, dear? Must be terribly difficult for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 03/07/2009
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Ask Maryjo's family whats their definition of "vulgar"
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i imagine it would be along the lines of complete strangers using their daughter's death to score cheap political points while blogging anonymously on a liberal blog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 03/06/2009
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I heart you, Senator Kennedy. So great to hear you roar again for the good of this nation. Blessings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 03/06/2009

The ACLU has publicly declared recently the Obama admin. is NO DIFFERENT AT ALL from the Bush Administration on intelligence, secrecy, and the "War on Terror" (warrantless illegal spying continues, rendition continues). The "pay cap" on CEO's salaries turned out to be a cap only on their bonuses, with salaries UNLIMITED, the occupation of Iraq continues with some 100K COMBAT forces (regulars and mercenaries) to stay in Iraq until 12-31-11. During this military enforcement, the puppet government there has handed over 75% of Iraq's formerly nationalized oil revenues to the world's richest families.
Yesterday the United States LOST its chance to implement SINGLE PAYER NATIONAL HEALTH as the Obama Admin. just REJECTED any such plan. This means HMO mandates are coming and you will all be FORCED to hand your money to a private insurer or face tax liens and penalities.
http://www.democracynow.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 03/06/2009
- frantaylor I'm a Fan of frantaylor 22 fans permalink

At least the current president has the proven ability to say "I was wrong" and fix his mistakes. Keep up the pressure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 03/06/2009

Yesterday, press secretary Gibbs has publicly declared Obama's REJECTION of NATIONAL single payer healthcare. We are making the biggest mistake of our nation's history by caving to the insurance lobby. Working Americans WILL BE BANKRUPTED ove r this decision!
Obama's ability to admit his mistake, and continuing to cave to the monied interests sooths me none.
WE NEED NATIONAL HEALTHCARE! InObama's campaign rhetoric he supported SPNH but now that he's in he caves to the insurance lobby. CAN ANY OF YOU SEE A PATTERN HERE??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 03/06/2009
- lylo I'm a Fan of lylo 5 fans permalink

I lost all respect for the ACLU when I spent months trying to contact them about an incident at my school (cops ended up beating the crap out of a bunch of teenagers). They never bothered to contact me in return. I guess my school was just too small, too rural. They don't bother to get involved with anything unless they know it will get their name in the headlines.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 03/06/2009
- dawn1041 I'm a Fan of dawn1041 3 fans permalink
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There you go with your scare tactics. Instead of trying to second guess our President, maybe considering giving him a chance. After all we sat by eight years and Bush and the Repubs gave us the worst economy since the Great Depression! At least President Obama is trying to get us out of the mess the Repubs and Bush put us in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 03/06/2009

Yeah, and what's it been, a month and a half? Still, we need single payer, and Obama needs to get on board and throw the insurance industry under the bus!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 03/06/2009
- lj9283 I'm a Fan of lj9283 67 fans permalink
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BTW; I am sure you are aware the the French Heathcare system is a combination of public insurers, "quasi-private" insurers, and private insurers who operate in a price regulated environment. The French do not have a single payer system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 03/06/2009

Neither do the Swiss or the Germans, they too use the combo-plan and they all have great healthcare. I believe the French are generally thought to have the best healthcare in the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 03/07/2009
- EyeDoc007 I'm a Fan of EyeDoc007 5 fans permalink
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I wonder if drowning coverage will be included in Universal Health Insurance?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 03/06/2009
- frantaylor I'm a Fan of frantaylor 22 fans permalink

I despair at how vulgar people can be. You must have quite a glass house if you cast stones so glibly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 03/06/2009
- EyeDoc007 I'm a Fan of EyeDoc007 5 fans permalink
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I've never left anybody to d ie at the bo ttom of a canal, so I'm in a pretty good position to criticize.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 03/06/2009

Ask Maryjo's family whats their definition of "vulgar"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 03/06/2009
- lysistrata I'm a Fan of lysistrata 18 fans permalink

Republicans just don't have anything constructive to say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 03/06/2009
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