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Obama Education Plan Speech: Stricter Standards, Charter Schools, Merit Pay

LIBBY QUAID   03/10/09 10:00 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama called for tying teachers' pay to student performance and expanding innovative charter schools Tuesday, embracing ideas that have provoked hostility from members of teachers unions.

He also suggested longer school days _ and years _ to help American children compete in the world.

In his first major speech on education, Obama said the United States must drastically improve student achievement to regain lost international standing.

"The future belongs to the nation that best educates its citizens," he said. "We have everything we need to be that nation ... and yet, despite resources that are unmatched anywhere in the world, we have let our grades slip, our schools crumble, our teacher quality fall short and other nations outpace us."

His solutions include teacher pay and charter school proposals that have met resistance among members of teachers unions, which constitute an important segment of the Democratic Party.

Obama acknowledged that conflict, saying, "Too many supporters of my party have resisted the idea of rewarding excellence in teaching with extra pay, even though we know it can make a difference in the classroom."

Despite their history on the issues, union leaders publicly welcomed Obama's words, saying it seems clear he wants to include them in his decisions in a way President George W. Bush did not.

"We finally have an education president," said Randi Weingarten, president of the 1.4 million-member American Federation of Teachers. "We really embrace the fact that he's talked about both shared responsibility and making sure there is a voice for teachers, something that was totally lacking in the last eight years."

The president of the 3.2 million-member National Education Association, Dennis Van Roekel said, "President Obama always says he will do it with educators, not to them."

"That is a wonderful feeling, for the president of the United States to acknowledge and respect the professional knowledge and skills that those educators bring to every job in the school," van Roekel said.

Van Roekel insisted that Obama's call for teacher performance pay does not necessarily mean raises or bonuses would be tied to student test scores. It could mean more pay for board-certified teachers or for those who work in high-poverty, hard-to-staff schools, he said.

However, administration officials said later they do mean higher pay based on student achievement, among other things.

"What you want to do is really identify the best and brightest by a range of metrics, including student achievement," Education Secretary Arne Duncan told The Associated Press in a brief interview.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said certification is part of the mix. "But the president believes that school systems can work with teachers and parents to come up with a system that rewards our best teachers with more pay for their excellence in the classroom."

The union leaders also liked that Obama took on Republicans in his speech, saying the GOP has refused to spend more money on early childhood programs despite evidence they make a difference.

There also has been considerable friction over charter schools, which are publicly funded but operate independently, free from some of the rules that constrain regular schools. Many teachers are concerned that such schools drain money and talent from regular schools.

However, Obama said state limits on numbers of charter schools aren't "good for our children, our economy or our country." He said many of the innovations in education today are happening in charter schools.

Obama addressed the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a setting intended to underscore the need to boost academic performance, especially among Latino and black children who sometimes lag behind their white counterparts.

President George W. Bush's No Child Left Behind law aimed to close that achievement gap, but progress has been slow, and Obama says his administration can do better. None of what he outlined Tuesday was new; his education agenda reflects Obama's campaign platform.

Broadly speaking, Obama wants changes at every level from before kindergarten through college. He is putting special focus on solving the high school dropout crisis and pushing states to adopt more rigorous academic standards.

Some of his promises already are in the works: Public schools will get an unprecedented amount of money _ double the education budget under Bush _ from the economic stimulus bill over the next two years. To get some of those dollars, Obama and Duncan insist states will have to prove they are making good progress in teacher quality, on data systems to track how students learn and on standards and tests.

After the scheduled event, Obama made a surprise visit with Duncan to a meeting of state school chiefs at a Washington hotel. Duncan said last Friday that states will get the first $44 billion by the end of the month.

Obama also wants kids to spend more time in school, with longer school days, school weeks and school years _ a position he admitted will make him less popular with his school-age daughters.

Children in South Korea spend a month longer in school every year than do kids in the U.S., where the antiquated school calendar comes from the days when many people farmed and kids were needed in the fields.

"I know longer school days and school years are not wildly popular ideas, not with Malia and Sasha," Obama said as the crowd laughed. "But the challenges of a new century demand more time in the classroom."

"If they can do that in South Korea, we can do it right here in the United States of America," Obama said.

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nikto
06:22 PM on 03/12/2009
America's teachers help build America's strength, in spite of being
choice targets for criticism by politicians.

America's CEOs, on the other hand, have destroyed much of America's
economic base, and are almost never criticized by politicians.

Most Teachers=Good Americans

Many CEOs=BAD Americans

This is empirical.
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chendri887
Viva California chaparral!
02:06 AM on 03/12/2009
Well, that is one of the more ignorant comments I have heard President Obama make thus far. He wants to model the US education system after the South Korean one? Give me a break. Kids in school from 7am-11pm six days a week. An exam that decides your whole future based on what university you get into. This is a regressive, antiquated system. It ignores what we in the West have discovered about child development and learning over the past two hundred years. Does President Obama know how many South Korean teens commit suicide every year due to the stress put on them by their memorization-heavy winner-take-all education system? It's not that we should become more torturously competitive. It's that we should restructure our ideas about education and work mean, about how we can all live meaningful lives on an increasingly small planet. You really disappointed me with this speech, President Obama.
10:26 PM on 03/11/2009
I'm an English teacher in an urban high school (we're 82% Latino), and what makes me nervous about Obama's plan is the monitoring of test scores to determine the worth or skills of a teacher. Currently, my class focuses on composition and analyzing literature, yet tests currently exist in the form of multiple choice questions which reflect only the most basic reading skills, with little to no emphasis on deeper thinking (analysis, connection) or writing (production). I completely understand that multiple choice tests work well for some subjects (math, for example), but until the types of testing are modified, it frightens me that only this form of testing will continue to dictate what is taught in English (and other) classes (ex: Anthologies are replacing novels to widen, but not deepen knowledge). This teach-to-the-test mentality is major factor in our educational system and greatly contributed to our nation's sharp increase of dropout students. Seriously, who gets excited about multiple-choice thinking? Real thinking occurs when students produce original work based on their own processes of reading, understanding, analyzing, and connecting. I know Obama is the kind of man who wants the best for students in his country. I sincerely hope his modifications are sweeping enough to adjust our tests (for students and teachers), or else I fear that would-be graduates will continue to fail, would-be readers will continue to hate books, and good, strong teachers will be helpless and powerless to develop students into lifelong learners.
12:41 AM on 03/17/2009
This comment and the comment from chendri887 above both bring up excellent points. Have either of you written to the administration? I average an email a week to the website, and I voted for and supported Obama (even though I am fiscally conservative) in part because I believe he listens.
Putting too much pressure on students and attaching funding/teacher pay to test scores are both extremely problematic. Please make your voices heard!
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nikto
06:05 PM on 03/11/2009
Note that Obama is surounded by Corporate people, politicians and
NO TEACHERS OR STUDENTS.

'NUFF SAID.
10:01 AM on 03/11/2009
I am all for having better education, but at what expense? My children get on a bus at 6:45 AM, for school to start at 7:45, and do not get out of school until 3:20 PM~!! When the bus drops them off after school it is after 4 PM~! Explain to me Mr President, how is it that this is going to be better for children? It is proven that children who are in sports and after school activities do better in school My Children are honor roll and in a gifted program. I moved from NJ to GA and do not understand the plan you intend to get passed. My children do not need to be in school longer than 7 hours a day. I voted for you! I can't stand what you have done to this country in the last 50 days! I am repulsed by your decisions. You are ruining our country little by little. I want to know just how much more you want to try and communise our rights!!! If I wanted to be ruled and told what to do with my children, I would live in Columbia and be miserable, wait, you are doing that here, so maybe another country is better?
02:52 PM on 03/11/2009
"I voted for you!"

Why, oh, why, do I find this line hard to believe? If you had voted for Obama, you would most likely be quite pleased with the last fifty days because he's fulfilled campaign promise after campaign promise. We live in a much better world today, than we did fifty days ago. That doesn't mean that supporters, like I am, are pleased with every decision. I am very unhappy with the decisions he is making regarding education, but I am "head over heels" about him, anyway. I just want to fly up to Washington, knock on the door of the Oval Office, and say, "Look, we need to talk about education,"
LOL! With all the bashing you are doing of him, I seriously doubt you ever voted for him. "Communise our rights" kind of gives you away.
09:28 AM on 03/11/2009
Parents really are the first teachers. My mom and dad taught me the alphabet and how to write letters and numbers. I might have had a bit of an edge on some entering kindergarten or first grade then. My dad spent time with me in first and second grade going over my homework. I got so sick of his hovering over and checking things that I started to work and study hard so that I wouldn't have to have him check on anything, as my grades were stable A's and B's, and a few C's through high school. I taught 5th grade for awhile (I'm a high school teacher now), and one of my math assignments was to go shopping with mom and dad and estimate what the grocery bill would be at the checkout line. I got receipts and estimates from all students. Now this was at a Catholic school. At public schools, when I have given similar assignments,
I might not get everyone to turn in the work, but that type of assignment that involves studens doing something outside of the class in the real world, usually works well. At the high school I work there are opportunities for kids to do work with the surrounding wetlands as part of their science, social studies, and math classes. If there is one thing I criticize about public schools it's the idea that (some) kids have the right to fail and not do anything but take up space!
08:54 AM on 03/11/2009
Here's the big paradox, people.

If kids can't get a decent education, how are they going to get a good job?

If there are no good jobs, why do you need a decent education?

(The answer is, of course, *some* kids will get both! Be one of them!)

Looks like we've got to solve both problems.
08:56 PM on 03/11/2009
THIS is REAL reason for the reason for the "drop out crisis." Not the fact that schools test scores aren't high enough. Believe it or not, kids understand that if the purpose of education is get a job, and if they know there aren't any jobs, why stay in school? If we want to solve the "drop out crisis," we need to change the purpose of education. Or create jobs.
08:25 AM on 03/11/2009
Some teachers are there for a check. So, now is the time to grade the teachers.
09:08 AM on 03/11/2009
And isn't that true everywhere? Bush seemed to be there for the check too! Most teachers I know want to teach kids, and some students where I work actually seemed interested in learning what they are supposed to learn. Some parents are involved and put limits on their kids: homework time, telling them they just can't go out when they want, checking on their work and grades. So concernvoter, go volunteer in a class at some school near by and find out what's up before making statements like the one you did!
07:40 AM on 03/11/2009
Since President Obama decided to use South Korea as an example of why longer school days and school years are needed, I decided to do some research to see how South Koreans feel about their educational system.

Refer to the seventh paragrah in this article:

http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?at_code=390145

Another:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/world/asia/13cram.html?_r=1

Another:

http://www.wwenglish.com/en/voa/stan/2008/12/2008122029207.htm
07:56 AM on 03/11/2009
Here's another:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/GK30Dg01.html
08:04 AM on 03/11/2009
*paragraph* Sorry. It's early.
01:47 AM on 03/11/2009
I'd love to hear from some of the Teach America applicants on our President's commitment to education and the money coming their way
01:22 AM on 03/11/2009
Weingarten is both a tool and an ingrate, anyway.

Note the sparcity of comments on her column, due to the fact that she has deleted each and every comment that doesn't conform 100.00 percent to the views that she has recently expressed.
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HMDMSR
Workers of the world, unite!
12:46 AM on 03/11/2009
Does the Obama education model require Nazis like Michelle Rhee to run school districts?
01:12 AM on 03/11/2009
You mean people who wants the schools to be better like Michelle Rhee.
01:20 AM on 03/11/2009
More like people who scapegoat teachers for failing to assume the roles that the parents neglect.
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OlskoolDem
12:32 AM on 03/11/2009
President Obama needs to reach out to the Parents of these under achieving children as it it their duty to mentor their children. I hear all too often that "it's not my duty to teach my child it's the teachers duty"
you can guess where that kid is going to rank in their test scores.
12:41 AM on 03/11/2009
seriously.... I teach at my old high school; which, at the time, was a very diverse school. Now, it is probably about 45% Hispanic, 40% Black, 10% White, and 5% other....

the students come from households where the parents just do not care. They are usually the lower income students, and the parents cannot see beyond their bubble. They most certainly cannot see their kid becoming a professional.

I have a student who has a bright future, if her mom would allow her to be a kid. She says when she gets out of school, her mom leaves the 3 young kids at home with her until about midnight. She has to feed them, get them to bed, do her homework, and get herself to bed at a decent hour. I asked her if mom works night? She said her mom does not work.

Why is this happening??? This poor girl is always tired, comes to school with work half done. CPS has been called, but so far, nothing. Its atrocious. She wants to be a nurse, but yet, her mother is making it difficult for her to even pass high school.
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HMDMSR
Workers of the world, unite!
12:50 AM on 03/11/2009
Abolishing tenure will clean that right up.
12:25 AM on 03/11/2009
If Obama were serious about reforming education, he would do away with tenure. I cannot tell you how many tenured teachers at our school do not give a rats a s s about the students. They know that they cannot be fired, so they do a lackluster job.

I teach junior (American Literature) English. I have kids in their junior year come to my class who do not know what a thesis statement is. It is because their sophomore teacher was tenured, had them read a chapter, and answer some questions. No actual teaching ever went on in the classroom.

Another thing, we need parental help. There is only so much I can do in 56 minutes. Some kids have parents who really don't care, so they come to school, but they are not there to learn. There is alot that has to be done, and coming down on the teachers is not the only solution.

Stop handing out PINK SLIPS.... we are supposed to keep class sizes to a minimum. My classes have between 35-40 students each.... they hand a teacher a pink slip, and now the class for next year will jump to 45-50. Kids can't learn like that
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soulfulnotes
12:29 AM on 03/11/2009
I'm also an English (and Spanish) teacher. I have plenty of kids who don't know what a thesis statement is either, but it isn't because they haven't been taught. Many kids in the system are masters at tuning things out. We have a culture where grades are important, but learning is not. That must be changed. How? I don't know.
12:33 AM on 03/11/2009
you make a valid point, but this particular teacher I am speaking of, NO TEACHING happens in that classroom. During my student observations, I observed her classroom numerous times.... I felt horrible for her students! But, she is tenured, what can we do?
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sushai
07:42 AM on 03/11/2009
It is a myth that teachers who have tenure cannot be fired. All it takes is a principal willing to do the word to give an honest evaluation of that teacher, and steps are put in place.

I agree with other posters that parent involvement is key and sadly missing from Obama's plan. When I look at my students, the most successful ones are the ones whose parents are involved, regardless of race and socio-economic level.
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dmwirth
11:44 PM on 03/10/2009
More teacher bashing. That's great. Teachers do not get paid enough for what is expected of them (yes in America, monetary compensation equals value). Bust the teacher's unions, then see what happens. Remember those Basal Readers? You could pull anyone off the street to teach to those tests.

America needs to be prepared for the future and that means education better look very different. Comparing irrelevant test scores to other students in other countries is out of date.

UNION BUSTERS DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO BUST UNIONS PEOPLE!!!!! WAKE UP