David Ogden Confirmed As DOJ Deputy Despite GOP Porn Opposition

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LARRY MARGASAK | March 12, 2009 04:44 PM EST | AP

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In this Oct. 5, 2000 file photo, then-Assistant Attorney General Civil Division David Ogden speaks during a news conference at the Justice Department in Washington. Christian conservatives are challenging President Barack Obama's picks for top Justice Department positions, charging past clients like Playboy taint their resumes. The criticism comes ahead of a confirmation hearing Thursday Ogden, Obama's pick for deputy attorney general, the No. 2 position at the Justice Department. (AP Photo/Linda Spillers, File)

WASHINGTON — The Senate filled the No. 2 and 3 positions at the Justice Department on Thursday, pushing aside objections from conservative Republicans who questioned the nominees' positions on pornography and the right to die.

David Ogden was confirmed 65-28 for the second-ranking position of deputy attorney general, and Thomas Perelli was approved 72-20 for the third-ranking slot of associate attorney general. Attorney General Eric Holder had expressed concerns that he was operating the Justice Department without his top deputies.

Sen. Robert Casey, D-Pa., joined 27 Republicans to oppose Ogden, while all the opposition to Perelli came from Republicans.

Nearly all the debate on the nominees focused on Ogden, who represented defendants in pornography cases.

"I felt it was a scurrilous attack on him," said Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Leahy and other supporters argued that Ogden's legal representation did not reflect his personal views, and they pointed out that Ogden has argued forcefully for protecting children from sexual abuse.

Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., said he opposed Perelli because he represented Terri Schiavo's husband, who fought to take his severely brain damaged wife off life support. The case of Schiavo, who died, was a major issue for conservatives who argued she should be kept alive even in a vegetative state.

An autopsy showed she had irreversible brain damage.

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Brownback said the case, in which Perelli provided free legal representation, raised issues about "whether we protect life in a diminished qualitative state."

The debate on Ogden spanned two days, the bulk of it on Wednesday.

Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., said Ogden "is more than just a lawyer who has had a few unsavory clients. He has devoted a substantial part of his career, case after case, for 20 years, in defense of pornography."

Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., said he was "alarmed" by a nominee for the No. 2 job at the department "who has repeatedly represented the pornography industry and its interests."

Ogden has represented defendants in both civil and criminal pornography cases.

He once represented a Los Angeles County firefighter, who was prohibited from possessing or reading Playboy magazine at the firehouse.

He argued in support of the American Library Association, in a case that challenged mandatory anti-obscenity Internet filters in public libraries.

Serving as counsel to the American Civil Liberties Union, he argued on constitutional grounds to strike down the conviction of a defendant who received and possessed child pornography

During his committee hearing last month, Ogden sought to reassure senators that he would prosecute child pornographers aggressively. He urged the lawmakers not to judge him by arguments he made on behalf of clients.

"Child pornography is abhorrent," Ogden said. Later, he said, "Issues of children and families have always been of great importance to me."

Leahy said "special interests on the far right have distorted Mr. Ogden's record by focusing only on a narrow sliver of his diverse practice as a litigator that spans more than three decades."

Leahy said that during previous service in the Justice Department, Ogden "aggressively defended" the constitutionality of the Child Online Protection Act and the Child Pornography Prevention Act of 1996.

WASHINGTON — The Senate filled the No. 2 and 3 positions at the Justice Department on Thursday, pushing aside objections from conservative Republicans who questioned the nominees' positions on p...
WASHINGTON — The Senate filled the No. 2 and 3 positions at the Justice Department on Thursday, pushing aside objections from conservative Republicans who questioned the nominees' positions on p...
 
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How'd he do with the porn-happy Utah contingent?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 03/13/2009
- ena I'm a Fan of ena 3 fans permalink

FYI GOP: In this country every person has the right to be represented by an attorney. Even scandalous Republican Senators like David Vitter and Larry Craig.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 03/13/2009
- grf67 I'm a Fan of grf67 34 fans permalink

Well, the republicans would be the ones to know everything about porn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 03/13/2009

Ogden is the toilet bowl slime and so is the person who nominated him. Any logically thinking person, Lib or Cons, should support protective measures to an industry intent on the exploitation of young women or men for its financial gain. Ogden has repeatedly argued cases to repeal laws or regulations that he and the porn industry felt were "unconstitutional". Please tell me exactly what is "unconstitutional" in requiring the industry to responsibly verify that models are 18+. Do Government & Citizen not expect the store clerk to verify age in alcohol, smokes, porn sales?

Brian Burch, President of Fidelis, called Ogden “a hired gun from Playboy and ACLU.”

“David Ogden has collected checks from Playboy and Penthouse to fight reasonable protections for parents and children from pornography.”

“He can’t run from his long record of opposing common sense laws protecting families, women, and children. The United States Senate has a responsibility to the American people to ensure that Mr. Ogden’s full record is fully reviewed before any vote on his nomination.”

“A vast majority of Americans support parental notification before a minor’s abortion and protecting kids from Internet pornography in our libraries,” Burch continued. “Yet David Ogden has fought tooth and nail against these common sense laws protecting our children from harm. At a time when America’s families are under increasing assault, Mr. Ogden is a dangerous choice for a position whose responsibilities include the enforcement of our nation’s laws.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 03/13/2009
- roald I'm a Fan of roald 16 fans permalink

If the president (note that capitalization is used only for the POTUS) of Fidelis is against this person, I have to be for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 03/13/2009

What's up with Bob Casey's opposition? Pennsylvania voters need to send him a message. This isn't your Daddy's Democratic Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 03/13/2009
- Donnat I'm a Fan of Donnat 21 fans permalink

Seems that the GOP might want to keep this guy around - as often as their own party members are caught with their pants down in public bathrooms, high priced brothels, and who knows where those closeted church guys do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 03/12/2009
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You have no idea:

http://www.armchairsubversive.org

"Party of conservative Christian family values" only if one means the locals in THE HILLS HAVE EYES.

Yeeeach.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 03/13/2009
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Good link, I sent it to my friends, the few that I have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 03/13/2009
- zanzig I'm a Fan of zanzig 38 fans permalink

There seem to be far too many politicians who are ignorant of the concept of "professional conduct" vs private beliefs. These are lawyers - they will represent anyone who pays them (a facile comment, since I do know that for many lawyers, it is the challenge of the legal issues that attracts them!) It seems to be the case that far too many nominees or applicants for positions are questioned about their private beliefs without enough attention being paid to their public conduct.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 03/12/2009
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doesn't anyone find a little troubling that he chose to take the case of a convicted CHILD pornographer and try to get that conviction overturned using the constitution? I don't know every word in the constitution but I believe it would take a lot of misinterpretation to defend child pornography.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 03/12/2009
- dave1111 I'm a Fan of dave1111 40 fans permalink

I find it troubling that you find it troubling. The Constitution says nothing about child pornography. Does that make it legal? It does say something about due process, which we are ALL entitled to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 03/12/2009
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I find it troubling that you clearly don't understand what the ACLU stands for. They did not "choose" to take on that case for the purpose of defending a "CHILD pornographer." The ACLU never takes on a case unless there are specific constitutional issues involved. If they feel that a particular ruling has had or would have the effect of undermining constitutionally guaranteed freedoms, they will intervene to protect those freedoms. That often means they have to argue individual cases on the side of any number of repugnant parties. This is because they recognize that freedom is at its most vulnerable when the party concerned is unanimously reviled. My point is this: no matter what the details of the individual case, the goal of the ACLU in ALL of the cases it works on is to defend our civil liberties.
They've argued on the behalf of the KKK- Why? Is it because the ACLU is in favor of white supremacism?
No. It was to defend civil liberties.
They've argued on the behalf of NAMBLA- Is it because the ACLU is in favor of legalizing sex with minors?
No. It was to defend civil liberties.
They've argued on behalf of the Religious Right- Is it because the ACLU conforms to a deranged and hateful interpretation of the Christian Bible?
No. It was to defend civil liberties.

I'd go on, but I feel the pattern should be relatively easy to spot at this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 03/12/2009
- triplbee I'm a Fan of triplbee 25 fans permalink

Perhaps you so read the US Constitution. It only has 27 amendments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 03/12/2009
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I find the endemic hypocrisy of the elite of the GOP to be far more disturbing:

http://www.armchairsubversive.org

We're all supposedly entitled to something called *due process* under the law, and that includes the right to representation when accused of a crime, or appealing a conviction.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 03/13/2009
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Remember in the '50s when it was dangerous for lawyers to defend communists?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 03/13/2009
- Shozen I'm a Fan of Shozen 8 fans permalink

Porn-o, and Schiavo and tax cuts for the Wealthy!
"Just say no" sound bites to stifle the economy!
...... These are a few of their favorite things!

When the votes bite!
When the pols sting!
When their doing bad!

Republicans think of their few of favorite things...... And suddenly they don't feel so bad!

My apologies to Julie Andrews!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 03/12/2009
- dave1111 I'm a Fan of dave1111 40 fans permalink

Wow, an ACLU lawyer at DOJ! What's that I'm feeling? It's the opposite of shame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 03/12/2009
- Eriq I'm a Fan of Eriq 15 fans permalink
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Yeah. Me, too!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 03/12/2009
- Carl Davis I'm a Fan of Carl Davis 5 fans permalink
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Yeah, that's fantastic :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 03/12/2009
- TFlint I'm a Fan of TFlint 40 fans permalink
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A person accused of a crime in this country is, since January 20, presumed innocent and has, since Jan. 20, the right to legal representation. For eight years before Jan. 20, the Republican White House denied that right to American citizens and others.
To accuse Ogden of being "in defense of pornography" is a deliberate lie. He serves in defense of persons who have a Constitutional right (since Jan 20) to a defense lawyer. He is one of those who strive to return the United States to a Constitutional republic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 03/12/2009
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read the story idiot, he defended a convicted child pornographer. not a suspect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 03/12/2009
- roald I'm a Fan of roald 16 fans permalink

Idiot yourself. The conviction was for an unconstitutional law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 03/13/2009
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Two great additions. You would think these Foxtards would apologize to Perelli after they found out that Schaivo had irreversible brain damage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 03/12/2009
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 131 fans permalink

They knew that all along.

You think her doctors made a bad diagnosis?

No, it was all political posturing at the expense of that poor woman and her family.

Brownback and the rest are monsters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 03/12/2009
- dave1111 I'm a Fan of dave1111 40 fans permalink

Brownback is still picking out the 'real' Catholics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 03/12/2009
- dave1111 I'm a Fan of dave1111 40 fans permalink

Schiavo, a lot like the GOP, being kept alive while in a vegetative state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 03/12/2009

Don't forget the irreversible brain damage!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 03/12/2009
- dave1111 I'm a Fan of dave1111 40 fans permalink

Explains a lot, doesn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 03/12/2009
- Emlyn I'm a Fan of Emlyn 9 fans permalink

The problem is that the Republicans want to make trouble over every little single thing. They don't care what it is - they are against it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 03/12/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 211 fans permalink
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It is more about muddying the waters than working for their constituents, they forgot them the second they took their oath of office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 03/12/2009
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Just shows how toothless the Extremist Right has become. The Family Research Council organized a letter writing campaign that appears to have produced a 2:1 shout down by more reasonable minds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 03/12/2009
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