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FISNIK ABRASHI | 03/15/09 10:25 PM | AP

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U.S. soldier patrol near the site of an explosion in the outskirts of Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, March 15, 2009. A roadside bomb hit a convoy carrying the mayor of a key southern city Sunday, killing a passer-by, while clashes and bombings around the rest of Afghanistan killed 13 others, officials said. (AP Photo/Rafiq Maqbool)

KABUL — A roadside bomb killed four American soldiers in eastern Afghanistan on Sunday _ new evidence of rising violence in a region where clashes and attacks in the first two months of 2009 more than doubled from the same period a year ago.

A blast in southern Afghanistan killed two British soldiers, Britain's Ministry of Defense said.

The spike in violence is an early indication that roadside bombs and other ambushes are likely to surge as thousands of new U.S. forces arrive in Afghanistan this year.

Brig. Gen. Richard Blanchette, a spokesman for the NATO-led force in Afghanistan, confirmed that a roadside bomb killed four U.S. troops in the east. A U.S. statement indicated the troops were based in Jalalabad, while the U.S. Central Command confirmed that one of the four was a U.S. airman with the 755th Air Expeditionary Group.

Separately, a suicide bomber attacked a NATO convoy in Kabul on Sunday but instead killed two passers-by _ among 20 people killed in various incidents Sunday, said Kabul police chief Lt. Gen. Abdul Rahman Rahman. The bomber also wounded 14 civilians, the Interior Ministry said.

Clashes and attacks in the eastern province of Kunar surged 131 percent in January and February from the same period in 2008, said Lt. Col. Rumi Nielson-Green, a U.S. spokeswoman.

Bomb and gunfire attacks are up in part because 700 10th Mountain Division soldiers were deployed to Kunar in early January, putting more soldiers in harm's way.

Kunar's rise in violence is likely indicative of what the 17,000 U.S. troops that President Barack Obama has ordered to Afghanistan will face later this year. Hoping to reverse Taliban gains, the troops will move into areas of the country where few other foreign or Afghan soldiers have held a long-term presence.

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Many of those areas are likely to have conditions similar to Kunar, where "the enemy that has a traditional hold in the area are deeply entrenched with the population," Nielson-Green said.

"The population is also very xenophobic and are largely 'fence sitters,'" Afghans who have not pledged allegiance to either the government or the militants, she said.

The 10th Mountain troops moved into Kunar, near the porous Pakistan border, while the Pakistani military was conducting a six-month offensive against militants in its Bajur tribal area, which has been an important safe-haven for insurgents.

Bajur is a rumored hiding place for al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, and Pakistan's offensive there earned praise from American officials concerned that militants were using the area as a base from which to plan attacks in Afghanistan.

Last week, Pakistan signed a peace deal with the Mamund tribe after claiming victory in its fight. The tribe controls a large swath of Bajur and its ranks have yielded many Taliban leaders. The tribe, whose members straddle the Afghan-Pakistan border, has agreed to stop sheltering foreign fighters and hand over local Taliban leaders there.

Pakistan's operation in Bajur was successful, but militants still "enjoy safe haven and support," in other tribal areas, Nielson-Green said. Violence has more than doubled in Kunar across the border in Afghanistan.

Nielson-Green acknowledged that violence is rising in part because more fighters crossed the border to escape Pakistan's military offensive. But the main reason, she said, was the influx of U.S. troops.

Gen. Abdul Jalal Jalal, the Kunar provincial police chief, said he is concerned that ongoing peace talks between Pakistani Taliban and Pakistan's government may be used by the militants as a chance to cross the border and increase their attacks in Afghanistan.

The Taliban regularly use roadside bombs against Afghan and foreign troops. Last year the number of such attacks rose by 30 percent, according to NATO figures.

In separate attacks on Sunday, the mayor of Kandahar in southern Afghanistan survived a roadside bomb blast that killed a civilian and wounded two others, said Najibullah Khan, a police spokesman.

Britain's Ministry of Defense also said two British soldiers from the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers were killed in a Sunday blast as they traveled in an armored vehicle in the Garmsir district of Helmand province.

Separately, U.S. coalition and Afghan special forces conducting a raid in Kandahar's Maywand district killed five militants, a U.S. statement said.

In eastern Afghanistan, a French soldier and five Afghan troops were killed during a clash with militants in Kapisa province, officials said.

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Associated Press reporters Amir Shah in Kabul and Noor Khan in Kandahar contributed to this report.

KABUL — A roadside bomb killed four American soldiers in eastern Afghanistan on Sunday _ new evidence of rising violence in a region where clashes and attacks in the first two months of 2009 mor...
KABUL — A roadside bomb killed four American soldiers in eastern Afghanistan on Sunday _ new evidence of rising violence in a region where clashes and attacks in the first two months of 2009 mor...
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- Gumby123 I'm a Fan of Gumby123 15 fans permalink
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Obama, pull our troops out of this quagmire!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 03/16/2009

Exit strategy:
Shred AQ/Taliban ranks by use of special op forces, not grunts; catch OBL; control channels bringing fresh Jihadists from P-stan, Europe and ME and Africa;
force oil rich states to foot the reconstruction bill; award reconstruction projects to European and Chinese firms;
close most madrassas and open free vocational schools; mass literacy program;
buy poppy at market rates from farmers.
This would be a good start.
Caveat: without REAL Pakistani engagement defeat of AQ is impossible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 03/16/2009

Some good ideas, but the "catch OBL" suggestion is a bit of a stretch, don't you think? I only point that out because since 2001 he's been the world's most wanted man, and we still haven't gotten him. It's a lot easier said than done. I personally believe he's dead.

I agree about controlling access to Pakistan, and thereby Afghanistan, but doubt if it would be successful. There are just too many ways to get in. What I worry about more is possible Jihadists coming from that region.

But you are absolutely right about engaging China and forcing Pakistan to step up. Without the involvement of the major players in the region, we are making the job much harder for ourselves.

But Pakistan doesn't have the ability to stand up right now; it is embroiled in too many of its own existential problems. As for China, I think they are rightly reluctant to engage themselves in anything that might draw the ire of the Mujahideen; Washington must find a way to convince the Chinese government that its interests are served by engagement.

It's nice to see actualy policy suggestions, even if I do disagree with some of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 03/17/2009
- Ergon I'm a Fan of Ergon 93 fans permalink
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I think diplomacy will work. I'd suggested a restoration of the monarchy, (even a constitutional one)which is the one institution all Afghans respect. However it seems that Obama's advisers are still stuck in stay the course mode. I don't see anything coming out of the review scheduled for this month. The military will only promise ultimate victory. The graveyard of empires, I'm afraid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 03/16/2009

There could be no diplomacy with Taliban/AQ if they think they're winning.
They must be seriously weakened ( like in 2001).
Then agreements can be negotiated.
Which will be periodically broken by those who believe they can gain more by fighting than talking.
Who then have to be brought back to negotiating after a serious military slamdown. And so on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 03/16/2009
- Ergon I'm a Fan of Ergon 93 fans permalink
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It's funny you should think they're 'seriously weakened'. Popular insurgencies have a growth pattern of their own, and it's usually the colonial powers that lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 03/16/2009
- WWRB I'm a Fan of WWRB 2 fans permalink

'CHANGE' .....MY ASS! Hey AmeriKA you got scammed................. AGAIN

ENJOY the SLIDE........ Go back to your ball games & Television.

SUCKERS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 03/16/2009

May your house be live on CNN

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 03/16/2009
- Beelzebul I'm a Fan of Beelzebul 60 fans permalink
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More lives wasted for nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 03/16/2009

Perhaps all you uber-liberals have forgotten (or just don't care because you live in another country) but Afghanistan is the nursery for the Taliban and Al Qeada. It would still be their nursery if OBL hadn't decided to kill 2000+ civilians in N.Y., D.C., and PA on Sep 11, 2001. They started this fight and if we let off the pressure they'll murder many more in the name of their oppressive Islamic fundamentialist beliefs. You all may not care about that but some people still do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 03/16/2009
- Topo I'm a Fan of Topo permalink

You don't belong to any foreign soil for whatever reason. Foreign invaders, like British, Soviet and now America will end up in shameful defeat. You right wing christians, and conservatives must learn from history and wake up from day dreaming of becoming world imperium. And one more thing, Talibans literally and actually means student (of Madrassa or religious school). Some of them - in fact only few of them- are terrorist. But all Talibans are united against US occupation because you keep killing innocent civilians, their friends and their families. You make them to become freedom fighters, and you know what, freedom fighters prevails.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 03/16/2009

"world imperium"? The US wouldn't be in Afghanistan if it hadn't been attacked. The Taliban would still be in control if Al Qeada hadn't committed the Sep 2001 murders. Who's actually trying to be the "world imperium" here? The US doesn't want Afghan soil, we just want the AQ and Taliban asses.

Also, the Taliban are an oppressive and cruel ideaology no matter what their name. As for killing civilians; The Taliban and AQ terrorists have killed far more civilians than any US effort. The US attempts to limit civilian casualities, but when the snake hides among the lemings, some lemings are bound to get hurt. Who's fault is that; the snake killer or the snake?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 03/16/2009
- swo68 I'm a Fan of swo68 14 fans permalink

Bush passes the baton to Obama.

And Obama runs with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 AM on 03/16/2009
- VivaZapata I'm a Fan of VivaZapata 63 fans permalink
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take the russian advice: get the flock out of there

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 03/16/2009
- NotWaldo I'm a Fan of NotWaldo 44 fans permalink
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Yeah! take your flock out of there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 03/16/2009
- esquire07 I'm a Fan of esquire07 25 fans permalink

So what ? So long as Dick Cheney and his buddies at Halliburton are making money who cares how many US troops get their balls blown off ? Get over it. Dead US troops = Corporate profit !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 03/16/2009
- AnnArky I'm a Fan of AnnArky 35 fans permalink
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"war's good business, so give your son
and I'd rather have my country die for me."

the JA got it right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 03/16/2009
- efdcapt115 I'm a Fan of efdcapt115 5 fans permalink
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IF it is deemed we have to be in Afghanistan, why can't we scrap these freakin Humvees and replace every single one with these?

"With the increasing use of Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) against the coalition forces in the Iraq War and in other theater operations, continued focus is being placed on protection of our soldiers and vehicles. To this end, BAE Systems a global defense, security and aerospace company has delivered two different M-ATV (Mine Resistant Ambush Protected All-Terrain Vehicles) prototypes to the U.S. Government for two months of testing and evaluation. The USC M-ATV and the GTS M-ATV."


Let's stop dillying around with the live of our troops and get these vehicles in the field NOW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 03/15/2009
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President Obama, please get out of Afghanistan and Iraq.

NOW!

Nothing to "win" in either country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 03/15/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

So true...these incidents are going to increase because The Taliban are on the upswing in Afghanistan and unless Obama wants hundreds of thousands of troops in, along with constant aerial bombardments of Taliban strongholds, nothing is going to give...

Iraq is actually not nearly as awful as Afghanistan now is...

Still, I agree with you fairyduster, let's get OUT...FAST!

Don't let Petraeus, Gates, or any other Bush holdover persuade you otherwise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 AM on 03/16/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 165 fans permalink
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Here we go again..!

How to Destroy an Empire 101...by T.J. Cole...

First: Deplete your Treasury, on senseless wars...

Second: Invade Afghanistan...

There is no step three...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 03/15/2009
- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 543 fans permalink
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Well, Gore Vidal has been saying for decades that the American Empire would only go away after debacles like this, and a severe economic downturn. That's five points for you, Mr. Vidal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 03/15/2009
- punk I'm a Fan of punk 57 fans permalink
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I'm enjoying the downfall of America. Must see TV.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 03/15/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

I love Gore...he is a curmudgeon and a contrarian, but sometimes that's what you need in a time when we have faux hope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 AM on 03/16/2009
- zaz33 I'm a Fan of zaz33 32 fans permalink

This is a war that cannot be won - but there is bi-partisan support for a never ending occupation.

Lives and wealth will be wasted until the American people say 'enough is enough'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 03/15/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Seems money is no object when it comes to wrecking countries and economies...
Just say no to any escalation in Afghanistan and continued Iraqi occupation...
Just say no endless bailouts of corrupt banks and insurance companies...

The US taxpayers' wallets and purses are permanently closed to politicians, military war mongers and sc-mb-g bankers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 AM on 03/16/2009
- SOLERSO68 I'm a Fan of SOLERSO68 36 fans permalink
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As horrible as this sounds, if American soldiers are being killed by road side bombs, it may be an improvement in the situation. This because they were setting up squad type ambushes before, and that kind of attack takes a lot more of everything;manpower, intelligence,confidence, leadership, etc..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 03/15/2009
- punk I'm a Fan of punk 57 fans permalink
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Time to hang a "mission accomplished" banner up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 03/15/2009
- raptor I'm a Fan of raptor 7 fans permalink

Upside down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 03/15/2009
- punk I'm a Fan of punk 57 fans permalink
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Why is the USA at war with the Taliban??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 03/15/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Maybe because they are nihilist murderers like Al Queda?
That said, 17K troops isn't going to eradicate these bloodthirsty barbarians, and Obama
is not going to escalate war in Afghanistan...if he does, he will get us into the same debacle the Soviets faced 20 years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 AM on 03/16/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Maybe because they are nihilist murderers like Al Queda?
That said, 17K troops isn't going to eradicate these bloodthirsty barbarians, and Obama
is not going to escalate war in Afghanistan...if he does, he will get us into the same debacle the Soviets faced 20 years ago.

I MEANT to say 30 years ago...sorry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 AM on 03/16/2009

It's simplistic black and white thinking like this which gets us into these ridiculous situations in the first place.

The truth is we shouldn't have invaded and occupied this country in the first place. You can't force democracy onto a culture. Democracy will arrive in the middle east at some point in the future and when it does it will come from within, not from US tanks and bombs.

Al-Quaeda were the ones who targeted us and they should be destroyed, but the Taliban had no active role in the planning or carrying out of that attack. They were a corrupt and oppressive government, but guess what, so is the new government, even with US troops, and so will they be when US troops leave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 AM on 03/16/2009
- Marie62866 I'm a Fan of Marie62866 20 fans permalink

E-mail and call the White House! DO NOT GO INTO AFGANISTAN! IT WILL BE UGLY! IS AMERICA READY TO SEE OF OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMAN COMING HOME IN A CASKET!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 03/15/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

There have been too many caskets already...I think people's appetites for this is worn thin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 AM on 03/16/2009
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