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PHILIP ELLIOTT | March 17, 2009 10:56 AM EST | AP

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President Barack Obama delivers remarks to small business owners, community lenders and members of Congress, Monday, March 16, 2009, in the East Room of the White House in Washington. (AP Photo/Ron Edmonds)

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration says it's trying to put strict limits on the next $30 billion installment in taxpayers' money for insurance giant AIG amid questions about whether it responded fiercely enough to executive bonus payments.

President Barack Obama and his top aides expressed outrage at reports that American International Group Inc. went ahead with $165 million in bonuses even though the company received more than $170 billion in federal rescue money. Obama directed Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to see whether there was any way to retrieve or stop the bonus money _ a move designed as much for public relations as for public policy.

"I mean, how do they justify this outrage to the taxpayers who are keeping the company afloat?" Obama said Monday, in announcing a plan to help small businesses.

The financial bailout program remains politically unpopular and has been a drag on Obama's new presidency, even though the plan began under his predecessor, President George W. Bush. The White House is aware of the nation's bailout fatigue; hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars have gone to prop up financial institutions that made poor decisions, while many others who have done no wrong have paid the price.

The burgeoning controversy raged Tuesday as Sen. Richard Shelby, ranking Republican on the Banking Committee, charged that Geithner had known about the AIG bonus payments before they were made and failed to stop them.

"I don't know what President Obama knew about it," Shelby said. "I'd say he probably didn't know about it."

Shelby said that Geithner "either knew or should have known what was going on. We need to know, what are the details of this? When were the bonuses signed up? Who's getting it?"

The Alabama senator stopped short of calling for Geithner's resignation, saying "he's under fire from all sides now."

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"I don't know if he should resign over this," Shelby said. "He works for the president of the United States. But I can tell you, this is just another example of where he seems to be out of the loop. Treasury should have let the American people know about this."

Administration officials said over the weekend that Treasury determined the government had no legal authority to block the current payments by AIG _ which are part of a larger total payout reportedly valued at $450 million.

Instead, Geithner asked that the company scale back future bonus payments where legally possible, the administration said. Geithner was characterized as having called AIG Chairman Edward Liddy on Wednesday to demand that Liddy renegotiate AIG's current bonus structure.

In a letter to Geithner dated Saturday, Liddy informed Treasury that outside lawyers had informed the company that AIG had contractual obligations to make the bonus payments and could face lawsuits if it did not do so.

AIG got predictably raked over the coals at a Senate Banking Committee hearing on regulating the insurance industry.

"One way or another, we're going to try to figure out how to get these resources back," said Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., the panel's chairman.

"This is ridiculous," exclaimed Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont. He said AIG executives "need to understand that the only reason they even have a job is because of the taxpayers."

Expressions of outrage across the political spectrum reached a new crescendo Monday when Sen. Charles Grassley suggested in an Iowa City radio interview that AIG executives should take a Japanese approach toward accepting responsibility for the collapse of the insurance giant by resigning or killing themselves.

"Obviously, maybe they ought to be removed," the Iowa Republican said. "But I would suggest the first thing that would make me feel a little bit better toward them if they'd follow the Japanese example and come before the American people and take that deep bow and say, I'm sorry, and then either do one of two things: resign or go commit suicide."

Grassley spokesman Casey Mills said the senator wasn't calling for AIG executives to kill themselves, but said those who accept tax dollars and spend them on travel and bonuses do so irresponsibly.

In another development, New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo said he has issued subpoenas for the names of American International Group employees given bonuses despite their possible roles in its near-collapse.

Cuomo said his office will investigate whether the $165 million in payments are fraudulent under state law because they were promised when the company knew it wouldn't have the money to cover them. AIG reported this month that it lost $61.7 billion in the fourth quarter of last year, the largest corporate loss in history, and it has benefited from more than $170 billion in a federal rescue.

"When a company pays funds that the company effectively doesn't have, it's akin to a looting of a company," Cuomo said. "You could argue if the taxpayers didn't bail out AIG, those contracts wouldn't be worth the paper it's printed on."

News that AIG still needs billions in taxpayer dollars to prevent a collapse did little to build public confidence, Obama aides acknowledged. Seeking to turn the public tide, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs aggressively criticized AIG and said administration officials were working to put strict limits on the next $30 billion installment bound for the company.

"Treasury has instruments that can address the excessive retention bonuses, and add provisions to ensure that taxpayers are made whole," Gibbs said.

The AIG news overshadowed what Obama's aides had hoped to spend the first part of the week discussing: billions of dollars to help the nation's small businesses in the hopes of getting credit flowing again. Obama heaped praise on the little guys of American industry, often overshadowed in the blitz of government bailouts.

Two months into office, Obama's job approval rating is 61 percent, according to Gallup polling. That number has been relatively stable so far this month but has dropped from the 68 percent when the president took office. The major factor has been a decline in support among Republicans, from 41 percent to 26 percent.

A separate poll out Monday by the Pew Research Center put Obama's approval at 59 percent, slipping from 64 percent last month. The Pew poll found that a growing number of Americans see him as listening more to the liberals than to the moderates in the Democratic Party.

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration says it's trying to put strict limits on the next $30 billion installment in taxpayers' money for insurance giant AIG amid questions about whether it respon...
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration says it's trying to put strict limits on the next $30 billion installment in taxpayers' money for insurance giant AIG amid questions about whether it respon...
 
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- duze I'm a Fan of duze 22 fans permalink

First, there has got to be other people in this world who can run AIG.
2nd, if AIG had millions to pay in bonus, why did we(taxpayers) give them 170 billion.?
3rd, Who was in charge of oversight?
4th, What has been improved after securing the 1st part of the bailout?
5th, Who is ultimately responsible?
6th, Who knew of the bonus? Geithner or Bernake?
7th, Who changed the language in the Snow, Wyden legislation?
8th, When will they be identified?
9th, Why can't we just let AIG fail? It seems to me if they receive more funds, their in effect holding America hostage because of their place in the world.
10th and final thought. When the hell is someone going to pay a real consequence
for their greed and ineffective management? Unless a real consequence is imposed, this kind of management greed will not stop. there is much more to this story, yet to be told. Why is the government not only losing the confidence of the American people, the government is ruining the American people. I hope everyone remember, what part their elected official played in AIG getting bailout funds as well as what will be done next. I say let them fail and start fresh. By the time AIG is bailed out. We will have spent billions of $'s just on them. They are literally robbing america. Jail time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 AM on 03/19/2009
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 305 fans permalink
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Its hilarious to hear Repbs like Shelby so "outraged". For eight years they didn't lift a finger to avoid what was coming, and Reagan the creator of Wall Street gone wild, is still their hero and mentor.
They do what is expedient, always looking for the next election, never what is good for the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 03/19/2009
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When will we see the video "Wall Street gone Wild?"

Perhaps the demonstration on Wall Street tomorrow (and a 100 other cities) will be the source of that video!

Republicans have sought de-regulation in the 1920's and soundly since the days of Eisenhower but as you point out it accelerated from Reagan to March 2009, as they still are against it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 03/19/2009
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The FED, including loyalists like Geithner and Summers, must go through a REDO as they perpetuate the scandalous and Out of Date SYSTEM that was perhaps relevant when THE FED was the "FATHER FIGURE" of the ELITE telling the rest of us HOW our Economy will be RUN (to benefit the Elite)!

We, the Masses are "ALL GROWN UP NOW" with lots of education and instant access to information and "FATHER FIGURE FED" is obsolete!

Thank you "Daddy FED" for your 95 years of UP, DOWN, and Big and little CRISES and here is your GOLD WATCH and enjoy your Retirement using what the Elite have taken from 95% of Americans!

WE, "the Government by the People and for the People," can "NOW PRINT and CONTROL our OWN MONEY in our own democracy!
__________­__________­__________­__

I'm a Fan of "outnow" who said (paraphrase):

We don't need London telling us about free trade, fiat money and fractional reserve banking. We fought a Revolution only to be sold out in 1913 and later by Truman.

Americans need to understand bankers stick together against us dreaming of an unregulated global economy with bankers calling the shots. $Five billion in lobbying/campaign contributions means BANKS own our politicians the past 15 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 03/18/2009

Shelby's a nasty piece of work, and politically expedient in the extreme.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 03/18/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1041 fans permalink
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Don't worry says Republican economists, bailout bonus money will trickle down to the tent cities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 03/18/2009
- munki I'm a Fan of munki 33 fans permalink
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subpeona attorney who wrote it and executives who requested to write it...

malpractice???

Behavior is in VIOLATION of fiduciary responsibilities

(owed to shareholders, taxpayers, government, TARP and society including general public)

placed in executives!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 03/18/2009
- Kevins I'm a Fan of Kevins 104 fans permalink

The condition for the next 30 Billion (!) has to be that they return those bonuses.

If anyone wants to sue, it's all tax-payer money so let them sue the US Government for their bonuses.
If they're brazen enough to steal from us out in the open.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 03/18/2009
- apoyo I'm a Fan of apoyo 40 fans permalink

Maybe if treasury could get fully staffed Geithner would be far more effective.
This job is impossible for one person.
It took many many people to crash the economy.
Who's holding up the appts?
There are very few wall st people with clean hands.
Throw some academics in there. Let them put their theories into practice.
Krugman has been complaining the loudest. Time to put up or shut up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 03/18/2009

Dear Mr. President, Please, please get rid of Geithner and Summers. By trying to put the blame for the AIG fiasco on Senator Dodd, while it was actually them who successfully pushed to keep a retroactive bonus limit out of the stimulus bill, they have shown that they do not act in good faith. Geithner and Summers, not the Republicans in Congress, are the greatest threats to the effectiveness and credibility of your administration.

Fire them on the spot, demonstrate that you are the one in charge, make sure that all that is possible is done to recoup the AIG bonuses, up to taking back all stimulus funds given to AIG, and the American public will support you and forgive this early mistake. But if you acquiesce you lose both your cedibility and your authority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 03/17/2009

Obama's team of banksters are just doing what the boss and Wall St want. He choose them. The buck stops on Obama's desk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 03/17/2009
- Texas Blue I'm a Fan of Texas Blue 2 fans permalink

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/obama-adminis-1.html

Jake Tapper (ABC) Obama Administration: We Didn't Find Out About AIG Bonuses Until This Month

Jake's post indicates that Geithner did not know about the retention bonuses for the Financial Products Division until last week.

I've seen a lot of commenters in various places, outraged because "the Administration knew about these bonuses and did nothing"...when, according to Tapper's sources, they didn't know about these London bonuses.

I also found it interesting that Tapper used the word "pending" in regard to the additional $30 Billion authorized on March 2. The article makes it sound as if that money hasn't gone out the door yet....and that Geithner intends to put conditions on it.

Having said that, it was Geithner who voted down restricting executive pay to $400K a year, against internal WH dissent...including Axelrod's.

I know the TARP money lacked restrictions on executive pay, because Republicans wouldn't allow them. No one had thought of "retention bonuses", at that point.

Was the 2nd TARP bail-out where Dodd inserted his amendment about contracts must be honored? (Although he now denies he put the dates on it.)

I'm konfuzed on who did what...and who didn't. LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 03/17/2009

If they are truly outraged, why doesn't the government with hold giving them the extra $30 billion? Then they would have to decide whether to give out the bonuses or not! Guess that is street thinking ~ not government thinking~

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 03/17/2009

That's in essence what the gov't said to GM: Renegotiate contracts if you want the money. Your choice. Take it or leave it. But AIG is "too big to fail" and they know the gov't won't let them go down. So they act like they have all the power. Idiots. There's talk about Congress making special tax arrangements to tax these bonuses to the maximum amount allowed, the IRS can use its tax law to rule the bonuses extreme and unreasonable and the company cannot deduct them. At Firedoglake, people were saying this amounts to financial terrorism. Pay us or we'll bring the global economy down. Call in the CIA, FBI, Homeland Security, you name it. Also at FDL, comments that this stuff about law and contracts is a bunch of baloney, it has to do with what the French or some other country could do if its contracts were not honored.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 03/17/2009
- Gould123 I'm a Fan of Gould123 7 fans permalink

Could you imagine the cost of 73 millionairs sueing AIG? How is Geithner to blame? on the job 3mo's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 03/17/2009
- gbkc I'm a Fan of gbkc permalink

so liddy says he needs to pay out that money so he won't get sued??? unbelievable

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 03/17/2009

Paul Peete. Some alleged demigogues may sometimes have it right. We must support those words that turn our country towards a greater tomorrow, no matter their source. No man, group or Party has all the answers. Following the example of President Obama, we must nourish and grow the sharing of ideas and ideals that may extricate oursleves from our failing governance and performance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 03/17/2009
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