Jaguar, Buick Reliability Beats Lexus

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DAN STRUMPF | March 19, 2009 01:55 PM EST | AP

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88 FILE ** In this Dec. 18, 2008 file photo, General Motors unveils the 2010 Buick LaCrosse at the automaker's technical center in Warren, Mich. In a study released Thursday, March 19, 2009, British luxury carmaker Jaguar surged to the top of J.D. Power and Associates' closely watched vehicle dependability study this year, tying Buick for the No. 1 spot and dethroning Lexus for the first time since the Japanese luxury brand has been a part of the survey. (AP Photo/Carlos Osorio, file)

NEW YORK — Jaguar and Buick surged to the top of J.D. Power and Associates' closely watched vehicle dependability study this year, tying for the No. 1 spot and dethroning Lexus for the first time since the Japanese luxury brand has been a part of the survey.

Lexus, Toyota Motor Corp.'s luxury brand, took the next spot in the study released Thursday, followed by Toyota's namesake brand, then Mercury, Infiniti and Acura.

"Buick and Jaguar both lead the industry in nameplate performance," said Neal Oddes, director of product research and analysis at J.D. Power. "In terms of individual model performance, Lexus and Toyota still do very, very well."

The annual study measures problems experienced by the original owners of vehicles after three years. Suzuki owners reported the most problems among the 37 brands assessed by J.D. Power.

Despite losing its crown to Jaguar and Buick, Lexus still swept top awards in four segments, while Toyota's namesake brand took five awards. General Motors Corp.'s Buick LaCrosse was J.D. Power's top midsize car, while Ford Motor Co.'s Lincoln brand took two awards. Chrysler LLC, which took no segment awards last year, won top honors for its Dodge Caravan in the van segment.

Jaguar jumped from the No. 10 spot in 2008, while Buick leapt from the No. 6 spot. The movement is notable for a study that is fairly consistent from year to year, and the results marked the first time Lexus was not either first or tied for first since it was first included in the study in 1995. Oddes said both Jaguar and Buick have made significant improvements recently.

"We see improvements all over the board with Jaguar," Oddes said, citing fewer reported problems with vehicle exterior, sound system and the overall driving experience. "The improvement at a nameplate level is significant."

Mike O'Driscoll, Jaguar's managing director, said the award marks a huge step forward for Jaguar's image in the U.S., which he acknowledged has suffered recently. He said the company has been working furiously to reinvent itself in recent years.

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"The improvements really started with a major investment we made at Jaguar in new technology and a much more intelligent approach to design," he said. "This is really a vindication of that investment and technology."

Oddes also said Buick has taken heed of problems reported in previous J.D. Power studies and made "continuous improvement on their side of things."

Jamie Hresko, GM's vice president of quality, said the win for Buick is a win for GM overall because the company has duplicated the lessons from Buick in all new models.

"I think we still struggle with the perception, that the perception of our product is substandard," he said. "If we continue to attack the markets that we consider will be high volume, which is markets like the Chevrolet Malibu, and we can sell a few hundred thousand of them, the reputation will spread."

Buick has performed at or near the top of the J.D. Power rankings in past years, tying Lexus for first two years ago, but dropping to sixth last year. Hresko expects the company's other brands to do better than past years in the J.D. Power initial quality survey.

Jaguar, which Indian car giant Tata Motors Ltd. bought from Ford in 2007, remains a relatively small-volume brand in the U.S. It sold just 14,000 vehicles here in 2008, while Buick sold 128,000.

Jim Lentz, president of Toyota Motor Sales USA, said in a statement that the company was pleased with the study's results, and noted that it won more best-in-segment awards than any other automaker.

Oddes said this year's study was redesigned to exclude routine fixes from a vehicle's list of problems. For example, the study no longer counts tire or windshield wiper replacements as a reportable problem. The intended result is a study that focuses on actual glitches with a vehicle, Oddes said, though it also makes it difficult to make year-over-year comparisons.

"We cleaned up the survey to really try to focus in on things that are truly broken," he said.

The industry average was 170 problems per 100 vehicles, or somewhat less than two problems per vehicle. Last year, the industry average was 206 problems per 100 vehicles, but year-over-year improvements this year are much less pronounced when accounting for the changes in the study's methodology, Oddes said.

The numerical differences between brands that crowd the top are extremely small. For example, Jaguar and Buick owners reported an average of 122 problems per 100 vehicles, while Lexus owners reported 126 and Toyota 129. At the bottom, Suzuki owners reported an average of 263 problems per 100 vehicles.

The most frequently reported problem was wind noise, followed by brake noise, peeling paint, brake vibrations and problems with a vehicle's lights, Oddes said. The problems have been fairly consistent from year to year, he said.

J.D. Power's dependability study surveyed 46,313 original owners of 2006 model-year vehicles in October 2008. The results are watched closely by automakers and are often used in advertising. Owners' opinion of a car after three years can be a major influence on their opinion to buy that brand again.

The firm also releases an initial quality study, which measures problems in the first 90 days of ownership. That study usually comes out in June.

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AP Auto Writer Tom Krisher contributed to this story from Detroit.

NEW YORK — Jaguar and Buick surged to the top of J.D. Power and Associates' closely watched vehicle dependability study this year, tying for the No. 1 spot and dethroning Lexus for the first tim...
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- frantaylor I'm a Fan of frantaylor 22 fans permalink

These ratings are based on all four people who bought Buicks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 AM on 03/22/2009
- michmudder I'm a Fan of michmudder 3 fans permalink

Despite the inherent flaws of surveys such as JDP Dependability or CR Reliability or TrueDelta Reliability, the information they convey is far superior to anecdotal evidence and conventional wisdom. Hyundai's rise in quality, for example, was captured by these surveys long before the public took notice. Buy a Suzuki--hey, it's Japanese so it must be good--at your own peril, as it score at the bottom of JDP's rankings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 03/21/2009
- Layman23 I'm a Fan of Layman23 14 fans permalink

Actually suzuki is a great vehicle. Its not popular here in the US, they make great engines. I would buy a suzuki if i was looking for a small car.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 03/22/2009
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Don't sell the Buick short. From the very early days of automobiles, Buicks have been fantastic cars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 03/20/2009
- frantaylor I'm a Fan of frantaylor 22 fans permalink

I wouldn't drive any Buick built between1975 and 2000, not a single one. It's all just overpriced GM junk, Chevrolets with Buick stickers. I don't know about the new ones.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 AM on 03/22/2009
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Well, I wouldn't drive anything but a GM. They have always done right by me. GM, IMHO, has always made the most reliable cars.

One area where I think GM did make a mistake, was back in the early 70's when deciding upon which engines to power GM cars with. They effectively eliminated the Buick, Cadillac, and Pontiac V8 by opting for the Chevy and Oldsmobile lines. Buick went on to make a great v6, but they also had many great, and I think technically superior, v8s which were merely cast aside. Cadillac as well. The Oldsmobile v8s (307, 350, & 455) were reliable, but dogs. The Chevy V8s (305, 350, & 454) were cheap, very reliable and adequately powered with the possible exception of the 305. However, the Buick v8s all rocked and I can't help but wonder how history might have been different had Buick engines been chosen to power the GM lineup.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 03/22/2009
- ccpostman I'm a Fan of ccpostman 22 fans permalink
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I find this very hard to believe.

Wait a few years and compare the same tested models. I think the Lexus would be way on top.

Also, check the resale value of the two after a few years. The Lexus would be worth more.

I thought Jaguar uses Ford Taurus frames in the past to save money?
I guess they are now made different by Tata in India. However, I would never buy a India made car. Never! I think Land Rover/Range Rover are also owned by Tata now. GM and Chrysler are most likely going to be bought by the Chinese.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Motors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_Cars

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 03/20/2009
- Kaviraj I'm a Fan of Kaviraj 48 fans permalink
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Jaguar was owned by BMW before Tata bought it last year. They are not built in India but in the UK. It was originally a Brithish Leyland brand. Jaguar has nothing to do with cheapo Ford Taurus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 03/23/2009
- LADawson I'm a Fan of LADawson 7 fans permalink
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They don't usually release their Vehicle Dependability Study until August (a few years have been as early as the end of June), but I wonder what the rush was this year...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 03/20/2009
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I have never found JD Powers to be reliable. I owned a Jaguar - S Type, bought it in part based on JD Powers ratings - they are completely unreliable. Jaguars are engineered without a distributor instead they use a very expensive cable system that connects the computer to each cylinder. These cables go bad very quickly, and once one goes bad you have to replace the whole set of 8 as they are out of sync and just go bad in succession. These cables cost $250 a piece with additional charges for installation. This design feature by itself makes the maintenance on these cars over a couple of thousand dollars a year. And if you don't replace the cables, then they run like absolute crap. So do your self a favor. If you want a particular car, ask friends who have one. Find out how often it requires maintenance and what they are spending. Then decide for yourself. Ignore car magazines.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 03/20/2009
- LADawson I'm a Fan of LADawson 7 fans permalink
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Jags back in the day used to burst into flames from electrical problems. Sounds like an improvement to me :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 03/20/2009

That's sad, because distributorless (i.e. coil on plug) ignitions are hardly new, and are generally reliable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 03/22/2009
- marlovian I'm a Fan of marlovian 3 fans permalink
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J.D. Power ratings are simply a test of the ability of companies to do well on J.D. Power surveys. The smart companies have been gaming the system for years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 03/20/2009
- steelmill I'm a Fan of steelmill 7 fans permalink

Why do people put faith in any magazine,all of them including Consumers,have down the road proven to be wrong at one time or another.Seems people that read JD Powers drive and work on cars,those that read Consumers don't drive that much or use mass transportation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 03/20/2009
- frantaylor I'm a Fan of frantaylor 22 fans permalink

Someone, I think it was Consumer Reports, did a statistical analysis of Motor Trend Magazine and found quite conclusively that their awards are very much skewed toward companies that advertise in the magazine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 AM on 03/22/2009
- steelmill I'm a Fan of steelmill 7 fans permalink

Consumers had their problems as well,when it comes to cars I don't trust them anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 AM on 03/22/2009

Any rating company that puts Mitsubishi over Nissan and Saturn is least to say screwy !!

Mercury over Acura. ha ha ha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 03/20/2009
- michmudder I'm a Fan of michmudder 3 fans permalink

The Consumer Reports Reliability Study (see the rankings at http://blogs.edmunds.com/strategies/Reliability.jpg ) puts Mitsubishi over both Nissan and Saturn too.
However, CR places Acura reliability over all brands except Scion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 03/20/2009
- EinChicago I'm a Fan of EinChicago 37 fans permalink

Mitsubishi have to be some of teh most unreliable cars on the road. The only suspect part of the rating is how high they are ranked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 03/20/2009
- frantaylor I'm a Fan of frantaylor 22 fans permalink

I think they should stick to tuna fish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 03/22/2009

Lol the Mitsubishi oil burning engine. I wonder if Mitsubishi ever figured out how to make valve seals that don't epic fail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 03/22/2009
- omobob I'm a Fan of omobob 41 fans permalink
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Except for the fact that the Ford owned Jag is often sighted by car mags like Road and Track as an example of ruining the Jags reputation as a finely crafted automobile.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 03/20/2009
- AN2009 I'm a Fan of AN2009 4 fans permalink

According to this ranking, Volkswagen is second from the bottom!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 03/20/2009
- EinChicago I'm a Fan of EinChicago 37 fans permalink

That's one ranking too high.

Still, at least VW has one thing going for it. It's not as crappy as Toyota.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 03/20/2009

keep telling yourself that and one day you might believe it yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 03/20/2009
- AN2009 I'm a Fan of AN2009 4 fans permalink

I find this difficult to believe. Buick and Jaguar are not reliable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 03/19/2009
- GerryS I'm a Fan of GerryS 58 fans permalink
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This sound like a set-up-

Somebody spent some BIG money and sent some hookers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 03/19/2009
- AN2009 I'm a Fan of AN2009 4 fans permalink

Haha. I agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 03/19/2009
- the964kid I'm a Fan of the964kid 67 fans permalink
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Wow - thats pretty shocking. Buicks and Jags had the worst reputations for years. A Jaguar used to spend as much time at your mechanics garage as it did in your own. And TaTa just bough Jag last year so these changes must've started under Ford - too bad Ford sold that division.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 03/19/2009
- michmudder I'm a Fan of michmudder 3 fans permalink

In the rankings Land Rover ranks 35th of 37 brands ( http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings/dependability-ratings-by-brand/sortcolumn-1/ascending/page-#page-anchor ), so Tata got the bad with the good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 03/19/2009
- AN2009 I'm a Fan of AN2009 4 fans permalink

Thanks for the rankings link.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 03/20/2009
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Even if true, Jag and Buick need to top the list for about a decade to truly convince anyone that they are reliable. The problem is, GM might not have that much time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 03/19/2009
- omobob I'm a Fan of omobob 41 fans permalink
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Jag is owned by Ford. Thats a Lincoln mark 5 under the Jag chassis. A great auto destoyed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 03/20/2009
- frantaylor I'm a Fan of frantaylor 22 fans permalink

Since when did the word "destroyed" take on the new definition "with an engine that doesn't leak oil like a sieve"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 AM on 03/22/2009
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