More Women Needing Cash Go From Jobless To Topless

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KAREN HAWKINS | 03/22/09 04:08 PM | AP

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Rebecca Brown, 29, talks about the economics of being a stripper as Eva Stone, background, works on her makeup before dancing at the Pink Monkey gentlemen's club in Chicago on Feb. 19, 2009. From strip club owners to filmmakers, employers across the adult entertainment industry say they're seeing an influx of applications from women like Brown and Stone, who are drawn in by the promise of flexible schedules and fast cash. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)

CHICAGO — As a bartender and trainer at a national restaurant chain, Rebecca Brown earned a couple thousand dollars in a really good week. Now, as a dancer at Chicago's Pink Monkey gentleman's club, she makes almost that much in one good night.

The tough job market is prompting a growing number of women across the country to dance in strip clubs, appear in adult movies or pose for magazines like Hustler.

Employers across the adult entertainment industry say they're seeing an influx of applications from women who, like Brown, are attracted by the promise of flexible schedules and fast cash. Many have college degrees and held white-collar jobs until the economy soured.

"You're seeing a lot more beautiful women who are eligible to do so many other things," said Gus Poulos, general manager of New York City's Sin City gentleman's club. He said he got 85 responses in just one day to a recent job posting on Craigslist.

The transition to the nightclub scene isn't always a smooth one _ from learning to dance in five-inch heels to dealing with the jeers of some customers.

Some performers said they were initially so nervous that only alcohol could calm their nerves.

"It is like giving a speech, but instead of imagining everyone naked, you're the one who's naked," Brown, 29, said.

Eva Stone, a 25-year-old dancer at the Pink Monkey, said dealing with occasional verbal abuse from patrons requires "a thick skin."

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Makers of adult films cautioned that women shouldn't rush into the decision to make adult movies without considering the effect on their lives.

"Once you decide to be an adult actress, it impacts your relationship with everyone," said Steven Hirsch, co-chairman of adult film giant Vivid Entertainment Group. "Once you make an adult film, it never goes away."

The women at the Pink Monkey say dancing at a strip club might not have been their first career choice, but they entered the business with their eyes wide open. The job gives them more control and flexibility than sitting in a cubicle, and "it's easy, it's fun and all of us girls ... look out for each other," Brown said.

In this economy, "desperate measures are becoming far more acceptable," said Jonathan Alpert, a New York City-based psychotherapist who's had clients who worked in adult entertainment.

For some, dancing is temporary, a way to pay for college loans or other bills. Others say they've found their niche.

Dancers at the upscale Rick's Caberet clubs in New York City and Miami can make $100,000 to $300,000 a year _ in cash _ even with the economic downturn, club spokesman Allan Priaulx said.

Priaulx said 20 to 30 women a week are applying for jobs at the New York club, double the number of a year ago.

Rhode Island's Foxy Lady held a job fair Saturday, seeking to fill about 35 positions for dancers, masseuses, bartenders and bouncers. The Providence Journal reported that more than 150 job seekers showed up to apply for work at the strip club. Foxy Lady co-owner Tom Tsoumas said a recent promotion to cut prices helped the club regain business lost due to the bad economy, forcing it to hire more employees.

Still, analysts say, the industry isn't immune to the economic recession. Business is down an estimated 30 percent across all segments, including adult films, gentleman's clubs, magazines and novelty shops, said Paul Fishbein, president of AVN Media Network, an adult entertainment company that has a widely distributed trade publication and an award show.

"In the past, people have said this industry is recession-proof," said Eric Wold, director of research for financial services firm Merriman Curhan Ford. "I definitely don't see that; maybe recession-resistant."

Strip club dancers and managers said they're drawing in the same number of customers, but fewer high rollers.

"They're not getting the big spenders," said Angelina Spencer, executive director of the Association of Club Executives, a trade group for adult nightclubs. "They're not getting the guys who come in and drop $3,000 to $4,000 a night anymore."

Still, the clubs' operating structure leaves them with low overhead and profit margins of up to 50 percent, Wold said.

Dancers are independent contractors, paying clubs a nightly flat fee depending on how long they work. At the Pink Monkey, for example, dancers who arrive at 7 p.m. Sunday through Thursday pay a $40 "house fee," while women who don't arrive until midnight pay $90. And they keep their tips.

Wold and others say it's almost impossible to estimate the size of the adult entertainment industry because few companies are publicly traded. He does pay close attention to three that are: Lakewood, Colo.-based VCG Holding and Houston-based Rick's Caberet, which own clubs, and New Frontier Media, a Boulder, Colo.-based adult film producer and distributor.

All three are profitable.

Rick's Caberet had $60 million in revenue in its 2008 fiscal year, up from $32 million the year before, Wold said, and he estimates VCG will have $57 million for last year, compared with $40.5 million in FY2007. New Frontier Media generates more than $400 million in consumer buying a year.

Larry Flynt, whose half-billion dollar Hustler empire publishes magazines, produces and distributes films and operates a casino, said he's continued to do well. But he doesn't expect those who are solely in the film business to survive.

"A lot of the small studios are out of business now, there's no doubt about that," Flynt said.

Adult magazines also are struggling along with the larger publishing industry, and have to cut pages like everyone else.

But the economic realities aren't keeping jobseekers away.

Vivid Entertainment's Hirsch said the number of women in his business has doubled in the last couple years, with roughly 800 working as adult actresses. "It is more competitive than I've seen it in 25 years," he said.

That doesn't mean all the newcomers are planning on lengthy careers in the industry.

Stone, who has a bachelor's degree in graphic design, took up dancing four years ago to help pay her student loans. She plans to go to graduate school this year to pursue a master's in education.

Brown, meanwhile, has a ready answer for those critical of her career choice.

"I have job security," she said.

CHICAGO — As a bartender and trainer at a national restaurant chain, Rebecca Brown earned a couple thousand dollars in a really good week. Now, as a dancer at Chicago's Pink Monkey gentleman's c...
CHICAGO — As a bartender and trainer at a national restaurant chain, Rebecca Brown earned a couple thousand dollars in a really good week. Now, as a dancer at Chicago's Pink Monkey gentleman's c...
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- alkamm I'm a Fan of alkamm 42 fans permalink
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When LA tried to outlaw strip clubs some years ago, Richard Feynman, nobel winning physicist was the only notable person to argue in their favor. He enjoyed chatting with the women and working on physics problems and didn't mind saying so.

Those who see the work as demeaning hold on to tired old ethical conventions that say pleasure is sinful. The same sorts of people get up in arms about Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction or someone letting slip an F bomb on air. It's a travesty when religious ideas, howsoever masqueraded, become conventional truths that otherwise secular minds accept as gospel.

As far as that goes, Jesus would probably have had no problems hanging out in a strip joint. How do you think he knew that there was no difference between thinking about a woman in a lascivious way and acting out physically?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 03/25/2009

I am most disturbed that Karen Hawkins, the writer, neglected to point out that the vast majority of women and girls laboring in strip clubs would probably not describe their experience as "easy" or "fun". What this social trend indicates to me is that, due to the economy, certain American women are now finding themselves compelled to consider financial outlets as depleting, dangerous, and de-humanizing as those forced upon millions of economical­ly/sociall­y disenfranchised women and children around the world (and in the US, for that matter). The reality - that strip clubs are often gateway venues or so-called "seasoning grounds" for women and girls ultimately trafficked or lured into prostitution - is not mentioned. Nor does Hawkins point out any of the overwhelming evidence indicating that strip clubs also often serve as gateway venues for men: the overwhelming number of strip club customers will at some point in their lives also buy pornography and prostituted women (and/or girls). The article, instead, reads like a recruitment flier for the commercial sex industry, painting it as a sector in which empowered women can find flexible, "easy" work and johns can find comfort in knowing that they are doing their part to stimulate the economy. Where are the quotes from those like Rachel Lloyd in New York City who are working daily to combat the commercial sexual exploitation of American women and girls? The Associated Press should know better than to pass this article off as well-researched journalism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 03/23/2009
- sunnybunny I'm a Fan of sunnybunny 14 fans permalink
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You do not know what you are talking about. Most old strippers go on to be bartenders waitresses, customer service reps, salespeople, or proffessional women. Only a few go on to be in the "sex industry" and they were already like that anyway.I danced on and off for 20 years (most of my adult life) and I stay in touch with my old friends - so I do know from personal experience rather than some lame stereotype.
Dancing is very empowering to the women that do it, but if you believe you are going to make tons of money like this says you are in for a huge dissapointment.The economy sucks and just because clubs are hiring doesn't mean there is money in there. They are hiring so many girls now so that they can exploit them for their house fees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 03/24/2009

Good post. And true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 03/24/2009

Thank you for your reply, I truly respect your experiences. I am, however, personally unable to discount the thousands of young women and girls in America who have indeed found strip clubs to be initiation grounds for deeply abusive experiences within the commercial sex industry. Their experiences, I hope you'll agree, are just as grounded in truth as yours. If you'd like to hear their thoughts in their own words, visit http://gems-girls.org/survivorvoices.html.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 03/25/2009
- RachelMc I'm a Fan of RachelMc 64 fans permalink
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im out of a job and so is my husband. i goto school full time but i will never give any excuse to myself for stooping so low and expose myself to whoever pays. but i guess some ppl do what they gotta do oh well its the females hustle. i cant do it tho. so hopefully these chics get paid whatever they're lookin' for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 03/23/2009

When I was younger a local music club would have male strippers in about once a month. On these nights men weren't admitted til 10 pm, after the dancers stopped. At ten o'clock you could walk in that place and the women would literally grab you, screaming "I've got this one" and "I saw him first". Those women were louder and cruder and grabbier than any group of men I've ever seen. It was one of the most dehumanizing experiences of my life... God, I miss that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 03/23/2009
- markinaz I'm a Fan of markinaz 3 fans permalink

At least women have that to fall back on. My man-b00bs are huge but I'm pretty sure no one wants to see me shakin' my money makers!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 03/23/2009
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lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 03/24/2009

Wow, I'm surprised to see so many negative comments about strip clubs here. I thought HuffPost readers were supposed to be progressive and accepting of alternate lifestyles, etc. There's nothing wrong with going to or working at a strip club. Going to a strip club doesn't make someone less of a gentleman. And if you think these ladies are being degraded and taken advantage of, you've never been to a strip club. If any one is being degraded and taken advantage of, it's the men. Most strippers are very good at pretending to like their male clients and using their clients' weaknesses to get at their money. They can make more than $1,000 in one night just by taking their clothes off and acting friendly. That's not degrading. It's empowering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 03/23/2009
- RachelMc I'm a Fan of RachelMc 64 fans permalink
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lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 03/23/2009
- Badger84 I'm a Fan of Badger84 10 fans permalink
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Please, buy into that delusion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 03/24/2009
- cobobs I'm a Fan of cobobs 29 fans permalink
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I know what you mean. I am sure every city has its story about the man who spends all his family's sustenance and goes into debt because he is obsessing over a stripper. The flip side is that there is something seamy and underworldlike about that business.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 AM on 03/24/2009
- KMan1 I'm a Fan of KMan1 6 fans permalink

The term "gentlemen's club" is the perfect oxymoron.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 03/23/2009
- joceeco I'm a Fan of joceeco 16 fans permalink
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There are no gentlemen in America!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 03/23/2009
- KMan1 I'm a Fan of KMan1 6 fans permalink

Oh come now they still exists just not anywhere near a "gentlemen's club."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 03/23/2009

Wrong again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 03/23/2009

I managaed a strip club for 5 years so I can speak with some knowledge on the subject. Going to a strip club has NOTHING to do with whether you are a gentleman or not.

Being a gentleman or a lady is simply a function of knowing the rules of society and working with them instead of against them. A gentleman or a lady is the type of person who makes those around them feel comfortable and special, not belittled, unimportant and used.

There are many ladies who work in strip clubs too. I assure you that for most women who strip it's purely a mathematical choice. They have good looks as an asset and they know that they can make more money stripping than anything else and still have flexible hours.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 03/23/2009
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I agree with you. It's easy to judge, but unless or until someone has worked at a place like that, you don't know what the people are like.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 03/23/2009
- KMan1 I'm a Fan of KMan1 6 fans permalink

Who mentioned anything about what type of people the strippers are? I think it is pretty clear what most of these posts are saying: A gentleman will not take part in degrading another human being PERIOD. You of all people should know how ungentle men can behave in such an establishment, so let’s drop the pretences shall we?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 03/23/2009
- gevan I'm a Fan of gevan 18 fans permalink

Wait, the Pink Monkey has the dancers pay THEM to work there? Oh, its in Chicago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 AM on 03/23/2009
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Actually that is quite standard, they do it in Georgia as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 03/23/2009
- Badger84 I'm a Fan of Badger84 10 fans permalink
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This is sad. It's galling to call these places "gentlemen's" clubs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 03/22/2009
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