Bernanke, Geithner Testify On AIG For Congress

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JEANNINE AVERSA | March 24, 2009 09:27 PM EST | AP

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Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, left, and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke testify on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, March 24, 2009, before a House Financial Services Committee hearing on AIG. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

WASHINGTON — Pointing with dismay to the AIG debacle, the nation's top economic officials argued Tuesday for unprecedented powers to regulate and even take over financial goliaths whose collapse could imperil the entire economy. President Barack Obama agreed and said he hoped "it doesn't take too long to convince Congress."

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, in a rare joint appearance before a House committee, said the messy federal intervention into American International Group, an insurance giant, demonstrated a need to regulate complex nonbank financial institutions just as banks are now regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.

"AIG highlights broad failures of our financial system," Geithner told the House Financial Services Committee. "We must ensure that our country never faces this situation again."

But the two appeared divided over where the authority should reside. Geithner suggested his Treasury Department's powers be expanded. Bernanke was noncommittal, even suggesting the FDIC.

Both officials sought to channel the widespread public outrage over the millions of dollars AIG spent in post-bailout bonuses into support for regulatory overhaul. Geithner was expected to lay out more details on the administration's plan Thursday when he appears again before the committee.

Democrats in the Senate say the administration wants the proposal on taking over non-banks to move separately from the larger financial industry regulatory bill, to get it going more quickly.

At the White House, Obama told reporters, "We are already hard at work in putting forward a detailed proposal. We will work in consultation with members of Congress. That will be just one phase of a broader regulatory framework that we're going to have to put in place to prevent these kinds of crises from happening again."

Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., the committee chairman, said that "when nonbank major financial institutions need to be put out of their misery, we need to give somebody the authority to do what the FDIC can do with banks."

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The government has given AIG over $180 billion in bailout funds since it first intervened last Sept. 16. The U.S. now owns nearly 80 percent of the giant insurer.

"If a federal agency had had such tools on Sept. 16, they could have been used to put AIG into conservatorship or receivership, unwind it slowly, protect policyholders and impose haircuts on creditors and counterparties as appropriate," Bernanke said.

Both Geithner and Bernanke told the panel they did not become aware of the $165 million in AIG bonuses until March 10, just days before the payments were made. However, lower-level officials at both agencies were aware of the payments.

At the time of the first AIG bailout, Geithner was the president of the New York Fed, which helped oversee the government intervention.

AIG is a globally interconnected colossus, with 74 million customers and operations in more than 130 countries.

"Its failure could have resulted in a 1930s-style global financial and economic meltdown, with catastrophic implications for production, income and jobs," Bernanke told the panel.

Bernanke said it was "highly inappropriate to pay substantial bonuses" in such a situation. He said he had asked that the payments be stopped but was told that they were mandated by contracts.

"I then asked that suit be filed to prevent the payments," he said.

But Bernanke said his legal staff counseled against this action "on the grounds that Connecticut law provides for substantial punitive damages if the suit would fail."

Separately, Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal said the Fed "never contacted me or my office concerning the applicability of the Connecticut wage law to the AIG bonuses. If the Fed had called, we would have given the green light for litigation blocking these unconscionable bonuses."

Dealings between Congress and Geithner have been tense. But they were a little more relaxed in the afterglow of Monday's nearly 500-point surge in the Dow Jones industrials, though the Dow gave back about 116 points on Tuesday. The rise came in large part in response to the administration's unveiling of a public-private program to buy up to $1 trillion in bad loans and toxic mortgage-related securities clogging bank balance sheets.

Still, there were a few pointed exchanges Tuesday.

Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa., warned Geithner about any requests by the Obama administration for more taxpayer money to support financial bailouts.

"I assume that you recognize there's not an awful lot of sympathy up here to necessarily provide additional funds _ not going on the merits of whether the funds are necessary," he said.

"We recognize it will be extraordinarily difficult," Geithner acknowledged.

Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif., told Geithner: "What I fear here is that we are doing a kabuki theater in three acts.

"The first act: Washington tells the American people, `We understand your anger at Wall Street.' In the second act, we nitpick to death any proposal that actually adversely affects Wall Street. And then, in the third act, we bestow another trillion dollars on Wall Street under extremely favorable terms."

Geithner made it clear he believes the treasury secretary should be granted broad powers _ after consultation with Federal Reserve officials _ to take control of a major financial institution and run it. The treasury chief is an official of the administration, unlike the FDIC, which is an independent regulatory agency.

AIG has become a symbol of reckless risk-taking on Wall Street. The bonuses came even as AIG reported a stunning $62 billion fourth-quarter loss, the biggest in U.S. corporate history. The government has bailed out AIG four times, to the tune of more than $180 billion altogether.

New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo said Monday that 15 employees who received some of the largest bonuses from AIG have agreed to return the money, totaling about $50 million.

The House last week voted overwhelmingly to slap 90 percent taxes on the largest bonuses. But Republicans in the Senate are blocking similar legislation, and White House reaction to the legislation has been tepid at best.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told reporters on Tuesday Democrats were considering other alternatives.

"The issue is not over," he said.

But House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said, "If the money is returned, the legislation may no longer be necessary."

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said Geithner should get credit for trying to fix the financial system.

"That's the real issue. And at least he's grappling with that," McConnell said.

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Associated Press writers Martin Crutsinger, Ben Feller and Anne Flaherty contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Pointing with dismay to the AIG debacle, the nation's top economic officials argued Tuesday for unprecedented powers to regulate and even take over financial goliaths whose collapse...
WASHINGTON — Pointing with dismay to the AIG debacle, the nation's top economic officials argued Tuesday for unprecedented powers to regulate and even take over financial goliaths whose collapse...
 
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- Chazmania I'm a Fan of Chazmania 62 fans permalink
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I JUST cant help it.
I don't trust these guys. My crap detector just keeps going off whenever they speak.
they are the same ones that have been there when bush and cheany and all the rest were trashing this country with there misguided crazy politics and lies. and what did these guys do? nothing!
I saw an interview with this guy Bernanky and when he was asked "so you just make money out of thin air" he visible got nervous wile answering.­. creating money that represents nothing causes our dolor to decline period apply LOGIC and you realize the fed and the IRS are nothing more then a mafia organization and they have caused inflation to keep rising indefinitely because there system is fundamentally flawed and fraudulent. if the American people actually paid attention and realized whats going on they would want to hang these people. we are all being robed in plain site. and we turn a blind eye to it because they talk a good bunch of bull. by all means America keep the status quo safe and sound and having parties at your expense!! for Christs sake wake up! and stop drinking the coolaid.. look up Zeitgeist the movie don't take my word! it is obvious to anyone that is not a preprogrammed drone!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 03/25/2009
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We should be careful not to rage too much about Geithner, because one of the other suggestions being bantered around is giving control to the Fed. That would truly be the worst possible scenario: hedge funds teamed with the Federal Reserve. Toxic comes nowhere near describing how lethal this combination would be.

I think they were purposefully vague about who would get it, knowing full well that Geithner is very unpopular right now. They could be doing this for a little provocation so everyone starts fomenting and then they'll offer Bernanke to assuage the masses. I’m much more concerned about this possibility, especially since the Fed is a private agency, with a long history of abuse and opacity around their activities. This would accomplish the precise opposite of what should be intended for increased Government oversight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 03/24/2009
- dianhow I'm a Fan of dianhow 72 fans permalink

It would be impossible to equal the incredible damage done by Reagan / Bush / Cheney / GOP policies of deregulation that LET banks & Wall St have free reign to bring our financial system to the brink of disaster and a world wide meltdown. The Bush admin even went to court to PREVENT ANY REGULATION. Greenspan said ' The markets will take care of it " BS. This ' crisis ' grew over years, like a cancer, till it exploded in Fall 2008. And yes-I'm aware that Dodd & Frank did not do their job of keeping an eye on things.BUT­- This could not have happened without the Reagan / Bush policies of deregulating Banks & Wall ST. Wall St sold 'junk ' securities that were labeled as TRIPLE AAA - to unknowing ' investors. That's fraud. Greed, dishonesty & deregulation made a perfect storm- that led us to this meltdown. GOP has had the presidency 20 of the last 28 years- many / most with a friendly congress. The average worker has lost income in real dollars in the Bush years- but the top 3 % have grown many many times over. Yet all the while- middle class folks listen to talk radio that says the Dems are the ' evil ones ' . Its ironic that the listeners, most of whom, are middle class, don't get that GOP policies have hurt them. also- the GOP hates unions. They want corporate America to have the CHEAPEST LABOR.Same with

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 03/24/2009
- abelenkpe I'm a Fan of abelenkpe 3 fans permalink

You want to restore confidence in the economy? We need better regulations to steady the market. Regulations that are actually enforced. To regulate the shadow banking system and hedge funds. Not to give more power to a few individuals that quite frankly many do not trust and would not feel comfortable giving more power.
There needs to be a thorough investigation into the financial system to discover how this mess came about. Perhaps even indictments. Otherwise people will not trust the system, will not trust wall street or the government. There will be no change until there is transparency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 03/24/2009
- UNCLEJOE I'm a Fan of UNCLEJOE 56 fans permalink
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Why does Congress allow Geithner and Bernanke to testify together side by side so they can communicate with each other for appropriate responses to any Congressman's questions that protects the Federal Reserve from any blame of this historic financial cataclysm?

This Congressional Commission is in fact to establish WTF is going on that caused this meltdown, and how to solve it, and here we have the top executive of the Federal Reserve and the former president of the NY Fed whose only raison dl'etre is and was to stabilize the US Economy.

And now that they have failed to stabilize the US Economy several times since the Great Depression which there is sufficient historical proof that they very well started the run on banks in 1929 as they recently did with their major competitor, Bears Stern, and then in 1929 refused to make any attempt at all to stop the Great Depression even withdrawing credit in 1933 that prolonged the Depression­..

Geithner and Bernanke should be interrogated separately with one being completed isolated from hearing the other's testimony if Congress was really interested in getting to the bottom of this global scam that started with `former Fed Chairman's Sub-Prime loan scam, Allen Greenspan.

How many of those Congressmen on that Commission depend on the FED for campaign funds?

We need an independent panel of inquisitors headed by men like NYC Attorney General Cuomo to ferret out the truth from these gangsters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 03/24/2009
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No one expects the Spanish Inquisition !!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 03/24/2009
- blimie I'm a Fan of blimie 14 fans permalink

Morre regulation and oversight is needed not more power for those two. We have already seen how power corrupts. Their trustability factor is very low.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 03/24/2009
- UNCLEJOE I'm a Fan of UNCLEJOE 56 fans permalink
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Why does Congress allow Geithner and Bernanke to testify together side by side so they can communicate with each other for appropriate responses to any Congressman's questions that protects the Federal Reserve from any blame of this historic financial cataclysm?

This Congressional interrogation is in fact to establish WTF is going on that caused this meltdown, and here we have the two top executives of the Federal Reserve whose only raison dl'etre is and was to stabilize the US Economy.

And now that they have failed to stabilize the US Economy several times since the Great Depression which there is sufficient historical proof that they very well started the run on banks in 1929 as they recently did with their major competitor, Bears Stern, and then in 1929 refused to make any attempt at all to stop the depression.

Geithner and Bernanke should be interrogated separately with one being completed isolated from hearing the other's testimony if Congress was really interested in getting to the bottom of this global scam that started with `former Fed Chairman's Sub-Prime loan scam, Allen Greenspan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 03/24/2009

Greenspanand Paulson belong in prison.
And most if the bank heads.
Too bad most of what they did was perfectly legal.
And who writes the laws?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 03/24/2009
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Who deftly abandoned ship after he set it full throttle headed straight towards a massive iceberg while he scurried off like a stowaway rate freed from the bilges, wasting little time before settling into a cushy new job helping hedge fund looter John Paulson find new income streams to replace his previous source of breathtakingly massive self-enrichment shorting the subprime mortgage secondary market.

Not bad for a guy who "never saw it coming". But we'll never get a straight answer out of him: never could.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 03/24/2009

NO NEW POWERS.

The government has all of the powers that they need - and perhaps too much already.

All of the evidence of the Madoff scam was out in the open and your government did NOTHING.
Geithner knew about the AIG bonuses and did NOTHING.

The SEC has been asleep at the switch for years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 03/24/2009

The average living standard of the average American has been declining since the seventies.­And because of this, many Americans have lived off of credit to make up the difference.

The Obama administration could take this hard-earned tax money, create a new bank(s) and loan out the money to loosen up credit, But instead, taxpayer, whose wages are declining, will buy these toxic assets so that the shareholders who invested in these loose canon financial institutions don't have to take a loss.

First graders know more about fairness and justice. This has got to stop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 03/24/2009
- jeanno I'm a Fan of jeanno 2 fans permalink

President Obama
Owes it
To the American People
To at least listen
To Geithner's critics.
Wall Street should not be allowed
To become
Our permanent government.

'By creating an urgent crisis that can only be solved by those
fluent in a language too complex for ordinary people to understand
the Wall Street crowd has turned the vast majority of Americans
into nonparticipants in their own political future. There is a reason
it used to be a crime in the Confederate states to teach a slave
to read: Literacy is power. In the age of the CDS and CDO, most
of us are financial illiterates. By making an already too-complex
economy even more complex, Wall Street has used the crisis to
effect a historic, revolutionary change in our political system -
transforming a democracy into a two-tiered state, one with plugged-in
financial bureaucrats above and clueless customers below.'

Matt Taibbi 'The BIg Takeover'
Rolling Stone online
3.19.09

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 03/24/2009

BINGO!!!
Matt NAILS IT!!
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 03/24/2009
- glockman I'm a Fan of glockman 40 fans permalink
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"Geithner joined Bernanke in calling for greater governmental authority over complicated and troubled financial companies"

Ok, so who defines what a "complicated" and "troubled" company would be?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 03/24/2009
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There is no definition of "complicated" in bureaucratic double-speak. It’s one of those mysteries that we must accept on faith that we petty mortals are incapable of understanding, because it’s too complicated to explain complicated.

That’s why it’s complicated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 03/24/2009
- glockman I'm a Fan of glockman 40 fans permalink
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That's complicated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 03/24/2009

One wonders who the Obama/Clinton administration is working for. It isn't US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 03/24/2009
- The Ghost I'm a Fan of The Ghost 47 fans permalink
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Must be Russian Moles . . .heh heh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 03/24/2009

Think before you speak! my mother always said, "People might surmise you are stupid or ignorant but if you open your mouth you will remove all doubt."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 03/24/2009
- Dustee I'm a Fan of Dustee 60 fans permalink
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Well we know the Rushpublicans are working for the 'Devil' , LMAO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 03/24/2009

Obama told us we are being held hostage by the banks.
What do you think that means?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 03/24/2009

What we are witnessing is transformational - something entirely different from “traditional” conservatism and something entirely different from “big-government” liberalism - this is the new politics, no longer in league with the U.S. Central Bank but now in league to The Fed – having adopted their ultimate goal: that of the transformation of the “state” into an ever-expanding instrument for the conversion of private savings into corporate profit.

Meet the new boss - same as the old boss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 03/24/2009

and whose fault is that, may I ask? Have you thought about the consequences of the over bearing corporate greed that brought us to this point. ? hmmmmmm?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 03/24/2009
- Dustee I'm a Fan of Dustee 60 fans permalink
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They probably have. Who do you think are paying these tr0//s?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 03/24/2009

I cant wait to see Geithner describe what happened and who was there at the meeting.
I hope they ask him why they let lehmans fail and who was at that meeting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 03/24/2009

Thought provoking question. I would like to know why as well. Interesting. People will be asking that question for decades.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 03/24/2009
- cadawa I'm a Fan of cadawa 21 fans permalink
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This dialogue is straight out of the Bush administration. Those entrusted with responsibility are never responsible. It's everyone else's fault. What else could you expect from a Bush appointee.
It's time to clean house. Our financial system from t he FED on down is infested with rats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 03/24/2009
- cadawa I'm a Fan of cadawa 21 fans permalink
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AIG belongs in bankruptcy court and their assests belong to us. For heaven sakes don't give Geithner any more power. He was in on the Goldman Sach's deal that destroyed their competitor, Lehman Brothers and insured that Goldman Sach's would be bailed out from their AIG liabilities. His bailout plans are for the ultra wealthy and he lives the rest of us twisting in the wind.
What we need from Geithner is his resignation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 03/24/2009

BINGO!!
Its consolidation!Get rid of the competition!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 03/24/2009

yawn.... old news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 03/24/2009
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